The new rules for dole recipients?

AnonoBoy

MagicSean wrote: »

I was just going by what you said. You called them fake.

I also said in the post you first quoted that I ran my own business at the time. After your first post I explained the situation (granted 'fake' wasn't the right word to use) but you persisted in claiming that I was committing fraud and was 'an accessory'. I know you have a bee in your bonnet about welfare fraud and all that but you really need to read what was written and actually think for a minute before throwing around words like 'fraud' and 'accessory'.

At no point was anyone involved not entitled to the dole or committing any crime. Now take a deep breath and let it go.

Jesus Wept

Some employers don't even notify people who have interviewed. The cunts.

Faith+1

The-Rigger wrote: »

Some employers don't even notify people who have interviewed. The cunts.

Been there, B*stards :mad:

Had an interview a few weeks back, was told I'd hear back within three days with a yes or a no. Waited till the fifth with no word so rang up and got the old we'll get back to you. Two days later rang again, same thing. Two days later I rang up again and got the same reply. Rang up the next day, this time I rang a different department and asked to be transferred to the person I spoke to during my interview. Asked him if I'd been successful, was told I wasn't getting the job. Asked why he didn't contact me as promised, "I have better things to do than contact every failed job applicant". So I asked him if he had no intwntion of getting back to me why did he explicitly stated that he would contact me with a yes or a no, "I assumed when you didn't hear back you'd forget about it".
"could I get a letter saying how I applied for a job but was unsuccessful".
"sorry, company policy is that we do not provide that".
" is ther anyway at all I could get one, like to have it to show I'm trying to get a job and not sitting at home drinking all day"
"I suppose if you send me a cheque to cover the cost of printing the letter and signing it aswell as post I could see what I can do".
"oh, how much would that be?"
"10 euro should cover it"
"not a chance. Thanks but no thanks, I'll make a note of the interview and my follow up calls and they can contact you if there's an issue verifying that I applied but was unsuccessful"


He hung up then. Now I understand that lots of people are applying for each position but you don't tell someone that you'll get back to them within a certain time limit and them never bother. Had he said, if you don't hear from us within the week then sorry but you didn't get the job, fair enough but to repeatedly promise a return call and not get one is annoying beyond belief. To then turn the simple task of printing off a few lines saying such and such applied here into a money making scheme is either tightness gone too far or a stroke of genius. Imagine if 100 people applied and 40 paid to get a letter for the Social Welfare. Be a nice little earner.

K-9

If somebody can't genuinely get a job, what are they supposed to do? Seriously. Have the Government put any thought into that other than pandering to right wing "dole sponger" rhetoric?

If the government really want to do something about the abuse of the system then they should be looking at long term claimants, anyone signing on for 10+ years.

Every town in this country has 3 or 4 if not 20 families who see playing the system as a career. In one street back home one family have 7 houses. The mother and her partner, the ex-husband and all five of their children each has their own house. The most recant one got a house a few months back, just turned 18 and moved into a nice house of her own. She dropped out of school at 15 due to "bullying" and got some grant/payment to finish her education. She got knocked up at 17 and as I said earlier moved into her own house a few weeks back. The family stay up all night drinking and partying, sleep all day but will be up at thr community welfare officer each week looking for a handout for this and that. The neighbors have made numerous complaints about the noise at all hours and were pretty much to learn to live with it. It's these people that should be under scrutiny and be faced with cuts to their payment.

If this country is ever going to get back on its feet them the government should begin to look after the tens of thousands actively seeking work and endevour to help stimulate the jobs market rather than dedicating so much time to coming up with new ways to try and penalise those hit by the recession.

Setting a back to work date is a ludicrous initiative, with tens of thousands signing on each week and the future not looking much brighter to even attempt such a policy is beyond belief. Until such a time as the government can show that there are sufficient jobs out there to meet the demand then they should not even consider this. We're getting to the stage where mass emigration is going to result in the majority of our college graduates emigrating upon competition of their degree. How does the government plan on attracting the big business we need when theres a lack of skilled graduates. Hell, in a FAS meeting awhile back the interviewee told me that I should look at emigrating as there wasn't much if a future for me here. Think that once my girlfriend finishes her masters, the two of us will be following my brothers and the thousands of other young graduates getting the hell off this sinking ship.

What the government should do is offer new and existing claimants an opportunity to leave the country. The cost of your ticket to leave and three months social welfare to help you get started. A simple clause that you couldn't claim again until a year from your departure date and they would save themselves a considerable sum. If jump at such an opportunity as would a lot of other people though knowing the government we have they'd just assume we were all heading off for a care free holiday.

yourpics

Deleted User wrote: »

Had an interview a few weeks back, was told I'd hear back within three days with a yes or a no. Waited till the fifth with no word so rang up and got the old we'll get back to you. Two days later rang again, same thing. Two days later I rang up again and got the same reply. Rang up the next day, this time I rang a different department and asked to be transferred to the person I spoke to during my interview. Asked him if I'd been successful, was told I wasn't getting the job. Asked why he didn't contact me as promised, "I have better things to do than contact every failed job applicant". So I asked him if he had no intwntion of getting back to me why did he explicitly stated that he would contact me with a yes or a no, "I assumed when you didn't hear back you'd forget about it".
"could I get a letter saying how I applied for a job but was unsuccessful".
"sorry, company policy is that we do not provide that".
" is ther anyway at all I could get one, like to have it to show I'm trying to get a job and not sitting at home drinking all day"
"I suppose if you send me a cheque to cover the cost of printing the letter and signing it aswell as post I could see what I can do".
"oh, how much would that be?"
"10 euro should cover it"
"not a chance. Thanks but no thanks, I'll make a note of the interview and my follow up calls and they can contact you if there's an issue verifying that I applied but was unsuccessful"


He hung up then. Now I understand that lots of people are applying for each position but you don't tell someone that you'll get back to them within a certain time limit and them never bother. Had he said, if you don't hear from us within the week then sorry but you didn't get the job, fair enough but to repeatedly promise a return call and not get one is annoying beyond belief. To then turn the simple task of printing off a few lines saying such and such applied here into a money making scheme is either tightness gone too far or a stroke of genius. Imagine if 100 people applied and 40 paid to get a letter for the Social Welfare. Be a nice little earner.

Shocking attitude by that person who interviewed you.
I went to an interview were the first thing they said to me was "We will be providing all candidates with full feedback after the interviews regardless of whether they get the position or not".
I never heard a word from them and that was 6 months ago. :mad::mad:

I hope they call me up for the new Social Welfare interview, I have a mountain of real rejection letters.