What to buy for an everyday watch ??

Mitch Buchannon

For that shot I went outside , came back in and took the picture on an iPhone 3GS. I have no idea about exposures etc on the phone.

Zagato

Yeah was thinking that after I posted, most cameras, and those on phones, automatically set exposure length. I guess it's just worth noting that lume shots can be misleading, I don't mean you Mitch, but on seller's photos etc.

Deep Thought

This is a pic the seller sent me, albeit with his phone, its very weak

Bullseye1

I'm not hugely pushed on a lume, besides it needs to build up its lumination during the day. If he wasnt wearing this on the day he took the picture it might explain the weakness.

Reloc8

That shot of the AT is pretty much accurate as regards what you're getting in terms of lume from this watch.

Wibbs

I'd tend to agree. Unless it's relatively recent Tritium tube type lume, or tritium full stop, or old stylee radium where the phosphor material is still active(rarely), modern non radioactive lume is pretty weak as far as real dark/overnight legibility is concerned. Bright at first but fades pretty quickly. It's a pity radioactive material is considered well dodgy these days.

m4r10

How about a Fortis Marinemaster B-42? If you buy second-hand, you'll be left with some change as well and it's sporty enough while it will look good with a shirt as well:

Deep Thought

Was offered a used PO 42mm Black / White on Rubber for 1700.

All papers cards and boxes..

Is this good?

Snake_Doctor

Reloc8 wrote: »

Sporty and classy - it'd be wrong not to show you some seikos. These are Japanese Domestic Market that you won't get without importing, unless you found a second hand for sale on a forum :-

The Alpinist http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SARB017/SEIKO-Automatic-Alpinist-SARB017.html

SARB021 http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SARB021/SEIKO-Automatic-Watch-6R15-SARB021.html

The Scuba - if you want Diver style (comes with a deep blue face as well - looks great). This is often regarded as one of the best value for money work horse watches out there http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SBDC001/SEIKO-Prospex-200M-Diver-6R15-Automatic-SBDC001.html

I've used the seller I linked to a few times - all worked out very well - great service. You do have to budget for import duties (around 20% I think). But as I said eh mine all worked out very well.

Up sides with these - fantastic quality for the money, all well within your budget even allowing for import duties, for me the rarity in this part of the world is also an upside.

Down side - if you care about such things, some people think of these as 'just a Seiko'.

However, a) there is no such thing as 'just a Seiko' and b) if by 'just a Seiko' you mean top quality materials, fantastic designs and a fully in-house movement then fair enough - 'just a Seiko'.

Those at Seiko seem to keep the really good stuff for the Japanese domestic market - these are quite a bit more high end than what you typically see for sale in an Irish jewellers under the Seiko brand.

The Alpinist doesn't come up second hand that often that I've seen. The Scuba has been very popular and does pop up with some regularity.

Man, I really like that SARB021 - just as a matter of interest do you know what the accuracy of those movements are out of the box?

Mitch Buchannon

Snake doctor ... A fan of the show "The Unit " ?

Reloc8

Snake_Doctor wrote: »

Man, I really like that SARB021 - just as a matter of interest do you know what the accuracy of those movements are out of the box?

I don't think I ever had that movement myself so can't speak from personal experience but its the same one as in the 200M Prospex 'Scuba' and the Alpinist which both get great reviews for reliability - in fact its the seiko workhorse for watches at this price point on the japanese market.

The specs given by seiko are +25/-15 secs daily and I would expect a typical movement to come in well within those parameters. Reports on www.watchuseek.com for it indicate people are getting well within +-10 secs daily.

There's a great 'cosmetic' review here if we're talking 'enabling' http://jikanwatch.blogspot.com/2011/02/review-of-seiko-sarb021.html

Here's a good techy discussion of the 6R movement http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/performance-comparison-between-6r15-7s26-caliber-movements-120512.html

Snake_Doctor

Mitch Buchannon wrote: »

Snake doctor ... A fan of the show "The Unit " ?[/QUOTE1]
Well spotted Sir!
I see you are a fan of Baywatch yourself...;)

Snake_Doctor

Reloc8 wrote: »

I don't think I ever had that movement myself so can't speak from personal experience but its the same one as in the 200M Prospex 'Scuba' and the Alpinist which both get great reviews for reliability - in fact its the seiko workhorse for watches at this price point on the japanese market.

The specs given by seiko are +25/-15 secs daily and I would expect a typical movement to come in well within those parameters. Reports on www.watchuseek.com for it indicate people are getting well within +-10 secs daily.

There's a great 'cosmetic' review here if we're talking 'enabling' http://jikanwatch.blogspot.com/2011/02/review-of-seiko-sarb021.html

Here's a good techy discussion of the 6R movement http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/performance-comparison-between-6r15-7s26-caliber-movements-120512.html

I like the line in the cosmetic review "a poor mans grand seiko", that about sums up what I am looking for. The movement gets excellent reviews. Just gonna havta wait till my birthday:(