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Bottled water being tap water

  • 28-01-2012 1:49am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭


    Random after hours thread 1,306,182 :pac:

    Was watching this video on youtube (skip to 1.55 seconds) Nothing really shocking but it makes you rethink of the likes of ballygowen, etc. That you can pay 1.50 for a bottle of water you could of poured yourself from the tap. So why pay? ... and why is buying bottled water so popular?


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    Anyone wanna try LighterGuy's natural spring water? only .99c per bottle? I take cash only :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    U r ine ly joking surely??

    *Gets coat*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    We have to buy bottled water, as often after heavy rainfall, there's discolouration in our tap water. We are also told often enough that the tap water is currently undrinkable, and we're given special water trucks for a month or so. If this is changed by water charges.. Great.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    We have to buy bottled water, as often after heavy rainfall, there's discolouration in our tap water. We are also told often enough that the tap water is currently undrinkable, and we're given special water trucks for a month or so. If this is changed by water charges.. Great.

    Is this Ireland? and are you on a public (not group water) supply?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    To be honest if I'm in work or just out and about and want a drink, I'll buy water. I know I'm being ripped off, (I buy Volvic) but I don't want any **** like Coke that's filled with sugar or even worse a diet coke with aspartame. Occasionally I'll buy a juice drink, but it's hard to find a decent brand that aren't actually ****ing you over in the health regard.
    Also the water in my tap tastes too much of fluoride. Take it out please FG!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Random after hours thread 1,306,182 :pac:
    Nope. This is thread 2056532075 (non-sequential), but here are only about 68,685 (not sure about deleted ones) in AH.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    To be honest if I'm in work or just out and about and want a drink, I'll buy water. I know I'm being ripped off, (I buy Volvic) but I don't want any **** like Coke that's filled with sugar or even worse a diet coke with aspartame. Occasionally I'll buy a juice drink, but it's hard to find a decent brand that aren't actually ****ing you over in the health regard.
    Also the water in my tap tastes too much of fluoride. Take it out please FG!!!

    Yes, take out the fluoride, you're not meant to ingest the **** all day, everyday forever, it's ****ed up, I drink tap water btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I buy bottled water purely because I hate the taste off tap water. It's not out of pretentiousness or anything silly like that. If what was in my bottled water was tap water then I would taste the difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Buy a very cheap bottle of water (do you have home bargains there? 19p a bottle) and just fill it up with tap water. Stick it in the freezer though, water always tastes better cooler.


    Bottled water's just a con, and people are idiots. That's why it sells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    To be honest if I'm in work or just out and about and want a drink, I'll buy water. I know I'm being ripped off, (I buy Volvic) but I don't want any **** like Coke that's filled with sugar or even worse a diet coke with aspartame. Occasionally I'll buy a juice drink, but it's hard to find a decent brand that aren't actually ****ing you over in the health regard.
    Also the water in my tap tastes too much of fluoride. Take it out please FG!!!

    what does fluoride taste like?!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Some people (myself included) seem to get a really strong taste off different branded waters. For example I hate Ballygowan, it's utterly disgusting. Volvic though is lovely. I have friend though who don't notice a difference in the taste, so perhaps it's like cucumber. Some people apparently get a strong taste off cucumber, I don't really taste anything from it though. Genetics.

    I'd love to have Vovic on tap. :):)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Yes, take out the fluoride, you're not meant to ingest the **** all day, everyday forever, it's ****ed up, I drink tap water btw.

    Why? It keeps your teeth healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Peckham spring?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    Deep Riverock is like drinking water and sh1t, except they filtered out the water.

    Volvic is my choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Bottled waters a scam and you're a pigeon if you drink it.

    It's yuppies like ye why this country is in the state it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    what does fluoride taste like?!!

    Toothpaste minus the minty flavour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    Why? It keeps your teeth healthy.

    That's a crazy point, do you brush your teeth, use mouthwash, floss? If your answer is yes to any of these questions than your teeth will be fine, there's plenty of fluoride in toothpaste and mouthwash as it is, I remember my mam always told me to spit out the toothpaste when I was finished brushing, weren't you? Fluoride isn't good for your body, why drink the stuff?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    That's a crazy point, do you brush your teeth, use mouthwash, floss? If your answer is yes to any of these questions than your teeth will be fine, there's plenty of fluoride in toothpaste and mouthwash as it is, I remember my mam always told me to spit out the toothpaste when I was finished brushing, weren't you? Fluoride isn't good for your body, why drink the stuff?

    I look after my teeth, but my housemate and plenty of others don't.

    The concentration of fluoride in Irish water has been shown to have no ill effects because it is quite low. Toothpaste has a higher concentration of fluoride.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Is this Ireland? and are you on a public (not group water) supply?
    Yes, Arklow, yes public, I'm in the town. We also have no sewerage treatment, its pumped straight into the sea. Public services are of incredibly poor standard here, and regardless of whatever others might say, I put that down to the town never having a TD to lobby for it. We're the only town of this size to never have had a TD or sewerage treatment in Ireland, and I suspect the facts are related. Any improvements to the town are done by private companies, we seem to be incredibly short changed in improvements from the public sector here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Sindri wrote: »
    Bottled waters a scam and you're a pigeon if you drink it.

    I've had to ask my flatmate to confirm for me, but I am in fact not a pigeon.























    coo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    I look after my teeth, but my housemate and plenty of others don't.

    The concentration of fluoride in Irish water has been shown to have no ill effects because it is quite low. Toothpaste has a higher concentration of fluoride.

    That doesn't make it right, to effectively put this chemical into everyone's body because it will benefit some of the people is insane from my point of view.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Yes, Arklow, yes public, I'm in the town. We also have no sewerage treatment, its pumped straight into the sea. Public services are of incredibly poor standard here, and regardless of whatever others might say, I put that down to the town never having a TD to lobby for it. We're the only town of this size to never have had a TD or sewerage treatment in Ireland, and I suspect the facts are related. Any improvements to the town are done by private companies, we seem to be incredibly short changed in improvements from the public sector here.

    The council are upgrading that facility at the moment. When water is discoloured it always doesn't mean its not safe to drink. If the water is drawn from a source that runs through bog it is notoriously difficult to get clear again (it also makes it bitter/metallic tasting too). That may be the case in Arklow, if the water there is drawn from the Wicklow mountains.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    I've had to ask my flatmate to confirm for me, but I am in fact not a pigeon.























    coo

    If you had to ask you are.:p

    My father would give me a whippin' if he saw me with one of those nancy boy 'brands' of water. It falls from the sky for ****s sake! It's actually like the term grows on trees but it's more abundant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    When water is discoloured it always doesn't mean its not safe to drink.

    By discoloured, I mean that silt settles at the bottom of a glass of water if it's left to sit. It is definitely not safe to drink a lot of the time. There was a thread in the Wicklow forum about it.
    The council are upgrading that facility at the moment

    No, they aren't. They're building a new plant entirely, and as far as I saw, the development hasn't progressed in six months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭Luap


    Am I the only one that prefers the taste of tap water to bottled?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Naomi00


    I look after my teeth, but my housemate and plenty of others don't.

    The concentration of fluoride in Irish water has been shown to have no ill effects because it is quite low. Toothpaste has a higher concentration of fluoride.

    Ireland has an unusually high rate of Alzheimers. Flouride has been proven to contribute to the disease. You can work that one out..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Naomi00 wrote: »
    Ireland has an unusually high rate of Alzheimers. Flouride has been proven to contribute to the disease. You can work that one out..

    So fluoride would be the only contributing factor to contribute to the high Alzheimers rate here?


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's a crazy point, do you brush your teeth, use mouthwash, floss? If your answer is yes to any of these questions than your teeth will be fine, there's plenty of fluoride in toothpaste and mouthwash as it is, I remember my mam always told me to spit out the toothpaste when I was finished brushing, weren't you? Fluoride isn't good for your body, why drink the stuff?

    The whole fluoride in water is really bad for you thing really gets on my tits. The amounts that you would have to take to have a detrimental effect on your health is huge. In fact if you drank tap water continously, you would get water poisoning before any ill effects relating to the fluoride. People who tend to believe that the MMR injections cause autism tend to also spout this fluoride ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Naomi00


    Sindri wrote: »
    So fluoride would be the only contributing factor to contribute to the high Alzheimers rate here?

    Haha, putting words in my mouth :rolleyes:

    You really need to read up on these things first. There is no point in drinking flouride at all, part of the reason you don't swallow toothpaste is that the flouride is harmful and only needs to be put on your teeth. There is no need to dose an entire country's population with something that they already get from toothpaste. Anyway go and do some research before trying to be a smartarse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Mr.Biscuits


    I like San Pellegrino.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Naomi00 wrote: »
    Haha, putting words in my mouth :rolleyes:

    You really need to read up on these things first. There is no point in drinking flouride at all, part of the reason you don't swallow toothpaste is that the flouride is harmful and only needs to be put on your teeth. There is no need to dose an entire country's population with something that they already get from toothpaste. Anyway go and do some research before trying to be a smartarse.

    Jesus, no need to be so confrontational:confused:. I won't bother now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Like klaus flouride gives a toss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Naomi00


    The whole fluoride in water is really bad for you thing really gets on my tits. The amounts that you would have to take to have a detrimental effect on your health is huge. In fact if you drank tap water continously, you would get water poisoning before any ill effects relating to the fluoride. People who tend to believe that the MMR injections cause autism tend to also spout this fluoride ****e.

    I'm pretty sure that fluoride is a heavy metal. Heavy metals build up in the body and don't leave. So a lifetimes worth of drinking water = a huge amount of fluoride.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    A relevant and amusing video, more to do with marketing bottled water to people rather than the chemical component debate



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Naomi00 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that fluoride is a heavy metal. Heavy metals build up in the body and don't leave. So a lifetimes worth of drinking water = a huge amount of fluoride.

    Mrs. are you a conspiracy theorist?

    It's a mineral. Some forms of it appear naturally in water. It has been recommended by health professionals. There are other worries about it but you'd swear by the way you go on, you worked for Ballygowan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Naomi00 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that fluoride is a heavy metal. Heavy metals build up in the body and don't leave. So a lifetimes worth of drinking water = a huge amount of fluoride.
    Oh dear. Would you care to point out fluoride's position on the periodic table of elements? (If you can't find it - try the elemental form, Fluorine)

    Fluoride is highly toxic, in large enough doses.......as is oxygen. Fancy that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Naomi00 wrote: »

    I'm pretty sure that fluoride is a heavy metal. Heavy metals build up in the body and don't leave. So a lifetimes worth of drinking water = a huge amount of fluoride.

    It's actually the lightest of the halides (chloride would be a heavier well known member of the group), the 9th member on the periodic table. So its the 9th lightest element in the universe.

    /pedantic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    In fact, I don't think it even classifies as a 'metal', never mind a heavy one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    In fact, I don't think it even classifies as a 'metal', never mind a heavy one.

    You're correct, it does not. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    why is buying bottled water so popular?

    Marketing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Dubhlinner


    Some people (myself included) seem to get a really strong taste off different branded waters. For example I hate Ballygowan, it's utterly disgusting. Volvic though is lovely. I have friend though who don't notice a difference in the taste, so perhaps it's like cucumber. Some people apparently get a strong taste off cucumber, I don't really taste anything from it though. Genetics.

    I'd love to have Vovic on tap. :):)

    Agreed. Volvic is great. Ballygowan not as good and riverrock tastes a lot like plastic. I suspect they use a lower quality bottle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Hexafluorosilicic acid is tasteless, so I'm not buying the "I can taste the flouride" argument. If you can taste the difference, it's probably because there are a selection of other minerals dissolved in natural spring water. That said, I would be willing to bet that in a taste test you would not know which was which.

    The funny things is that a huge proportion of the fresh water on Earth contains naturally occuring flouride at about half the concentration of tap water. All of the ocean water contains naturally occurring flouride at about double the concentration of tap water. So, if your reasoning is that "I want to avoid flouride", you're failing.

    If you genuinely have concerns about flouride, run your tap water through a filter and stop paying through the nose for bottled water. You're only kidding yourself and wasting money. But since all humans ever have been drinking flouridated water, you probably don't have much to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I buy bottled water the odd time, just for the bottle though and use it repeated filled with tap water. Replace the bottle once every 3 months or so so it doesn't get too icky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    I avoid buying bottled water unless its the yummy lemon and lime flavoured Volvic one-gorgeous! Probably full of sugar beats Coke etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Spend your cash as you wish but it's madness we're importing water into this country

    What's wrong with Tipperary or Kerry Spring and others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    A billion dollar a year industry out of something you can get for free that covers 70% of the planet.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    "Bottled at Source"

    'Source' could be anything tbh.. including a tap

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Way back when I was in secondary school our business studies teacher told us the founder of Ballygowan was on the Late Late Show
    And when he said he planned to sell water he got laughed at and made look a fool

    Guess he's having the last laugh :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Spunge wrote: »
    A billion dollar a year industry out of something you can get for free that covers 70% of the planet.
    You do realise like 10% is fresh and about 2% is potable right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    xzanti wrote: »
    "Bottled at Source"

    'Source' could be anything tbh.. including a tap

    :pac:

    It often is!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Evian.
    One of the largest bottled water companies in the world.


    Evian. = Naive spelt backwards.


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