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Same team players who hated each other

  • 27-01-2012 12:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭


    Just a fun one, but what players in club/ international football have had an awful personal grudge? (same team) There was rumour in 2010 that the primary reason for England doing so awful in the WC was a split between Terrys mates and the Liverpool/ Manc squad. Obviously with the whole Ferdinand thing there might again be issues. There has also been the years old rumour that Holland always lost it at the height of tournaments because the black and white players never gelled together long enough (though I saw an interview with Seedorf and he said he had no idea where this old one came from but that in his view it was rubbish)

    Biggest one I can think of is Lehmann/ Almunia, but theres plenty of others escaping me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Cole and Sheringham despised each other. I remember Cole saying it was something to do with his England debut and Sheringham acting the maggot when Cole came on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Teddy Sheringham and Andy Cole is the first one that sprang to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Andy Goram and Andy Goram.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Dyer and Woodgate got into an on field brawl years ago as well haha.


    And not forgetting Joey Barton and *starting to type. List to be completed by July 2015*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    iirc Cole and Sheringham fell out over a goal that was scored for United.I think one player deemed it was his goal as the other lad just tapped it in as it was rolling over the line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Biggest one I can think of is Lehmann/ Almunia, but theres plenty of others escaping me.
    Lehmann/Kahn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I think the problems with the Dutch team used to be the players from the 3 big teams didn't get on and it hadn't anything to do with race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    yabadabado wrote: »
    iirc Cole and Sheringham fell out over a goal that was scored for United.I think one player deemed it was his goal as the other lad just tapped it in as it was rolling over the line.

    No it was over sheringham ignoring him when he came onto make his debut for England . Didn't shake his hand or wish him luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Woodgate\duberry at leeds, i remember hearing that even when they were paired together in the middle they wouldn't communicate with each other at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    Cr7 & RVN?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    And not forgetting Joey Barton and *starting to type. List to be completed by July 2015*
    My favourite Barton one:
    After England’s poor 2006 World Cup campaign he was openly critical of squad members who returned home and immediately released books on the experience. When he was subsequently called up for a match with Spain at Old Trafford Frank Lampard, author of one of the monotonous tomes which had attracted Barton’s ire, openly stated his disapproval at Barton’s comments. When Barton arrived for a team breakfast Lampard moved away from him to sit at another table to which Barton apparently responded: “Don’t worry, I wans’t going to steal your breakfast you fat prick.”
    http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/fb_news.php?storyid=13818


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    yabadabado wrote: »
    iirc Cole and Sheringham fell out over a goal that was scored for United.I think one player deemed it was his goal as the other lad just tapped it in as it was rolling over the line.

    Nope it was over the handshale snub on Cole's England debut.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-andy-cole-column-the-real-reason-ive-hated-sheringham-for-15-years-he-refused-to-shake-my-hand-1915658.html


    I would rather sit down and have a cuppa with Neil Ruddock, who broke my leg in two places in 1996, than with Teddy Sheringham, who I've pretty much detested for the past 15 years.

    When I explain to you why that's the case, it might provide a small insight into why I think that anyone rushing to emphatic judgement on two of the big football stories of the past week should think again.

    The stories I am referring to are the terrible injury sustained by Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey in that challenge with Stoke's Ryan Shawcross and the decision by Wayne Bridge to make himself unavailable for England, followed by that non-handshake with John Terry.

    Let's tackle that tackle by Shawcross first. Many of you will have seen it several times by now, as I have. The consequences were horrible, not something you'd wish on anyone. Was the challenge late? Yes. Clumsy? Yes. Malicious? No.

    Shawcross has an exceptionally clean record for a centre-half and you could tell by his reaction – crying in shock, and not at his red card – that he was as mortified as anyone.

    I felt for both players and it goes without saying that I wish Ramsey the swiftest recovery. He is young, determined and shaping up to be some player, and he'll be back.

    I can understand Arsène Wenger being upset at the injury, the third really serious one in recent times for his players. But if he truly thinks Shawcross set out to maim Ramsey then I'm afraid he's off the mark.

    I was angry, more than angry, when Ruddock chopped me down in a reserves match and I was diagnosed afterwards with two ankle fractures that kept me out for months. We disagreed on how it happened. He claimed it was an honest challenge and that I fell badly, while I said late and reckless.

    But even in my fury back then, which was also fuelled by frustration at being out of action, I never thought for a moment that Ruddock had maliciously taken me down with the intention of breaking my bones. No professional would do that to another unless there was something awry in their head.

    I've never known Ruddock well, or at all really, before or since that tackle, but I accept what happened was ultimately part and parcel of football, a contact sport, and one that does produce serious casualties; thankfully, they are rare.

    By the way, just to be clear about my introduction: I am not seeking any chat or love-in with Ruddock! But I don't have the lingering animosity for him I have for Sheringham.

    Some of you will know the background to that, but perhaps not the full details. Others might be surprised our rift had such apparently mundane roots. But here's what happened.

    It was early 1995, I had recently signed for Manchester United, and it was my England debut, against Uruguay. I was a sub. I came on for Sheringham (then at Spurs), after about 70 minutes. You'll need to understand what was in my head at that moment to get even close to comprehending my reaction to what happened next.

    I was so nervous it was frightening. This was the culmination of a lifetime of ambition. You hear the cliché, "It means everything to play for my country". But trust me, it did. Not just for me, but for my family, my parents especially, who had endured all kinds of hardships to give us the chances we had. Becoming a pro had been incredible. Now the magnitude of playing for England was indescribable. The moment has arrived.

    I walk on to the pitch, 60,000 or so watching. Sheringham is coming off. I expect a brief handshake, a "Good luck, Coley", something. I am ready to shake. He snubs me. He actively snubs me, for no reason I was ever aware of then or since. He walks off. I don't even know the bloke so he can't have any issue with me. We're fellow England players, it is my debut and he snubs me.

    You know what my immediate thoughts were? "Jesus Christ! How many people just saw Teddy Sheringham do that to me?" I was embarrassed. I was confused. And there you have it. From that moment on, I knew Sheringham was not for me.

    Two years later, in summer 1997, after Eric Cantona left United, Sheringham arrived. We played together for years. We scored a lot of goals. I never spoke a single word to him.

    People wonder how on earth we could function like that. Gary Pallister once said to me: "I know you don't speak to Teddy and he doesn't speak to you, but at least you play well together." We did, and I wouldn't ever cast aspersions on Sheringham's talent as a top-rate footballer for his clubs and country. I've just loathed him personally for 15 years.

    Which brings us to Bridge and Terry. I'd guess a lot of people will have seen Bridge giving Terry "the empty hand" and thought, "Well done". All I can say is I know what it's like to refuse to shake someone's hand, and if Bridgey thought that was the right thing to do at that moment for him, then fair enough.

    My refusal was to shake the hand of referee Mike Dean when I was a Manchester City player. He had given me all kinds of ridiculous cards in the past and, in my strictly personal and biased view, the guy was a balloon of a ref who shouldn't be officiating. So I didn't shake his hand.

    As for Bridge's decision not to play for England, what right has anyone to tell him his own mind? He owes you and me nothing. His decision is down to him. And he could still change it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    yabadabado wrote: »
    iirc Cole and Sheringham fell out over a goal that was scored for United.I think one player deemed it was his goal as the other lad just tapped it in as it was rolling over the line.

    I thought Sheringham blamed Cole for a goal Utd conceded and that was the end of them talking!

    Lot of the Liverpool squad didn't like Stan Collymore and also I think Tommy Smith and Emlyn Hughes didn't like each other and had a 'feud' at Liverpool!

    More recently I didn't like a guy who I used to play 5 a side with :pac:

    It's always gonna happen, I mean there are people we all have to work with that we dislike!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    Bridge and Terry .

    Bridge retired over from international football over that .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    David Batty and Graeme LeSaux which boiled up into a full blown fistfight during a European game for Blackburn.

    John Hartson and Eyal Berkovic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    Romario and Edmundo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    Glen Johnson and Luis Suarez.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭RVD420


    Roy Keane and Peter Schmeichel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭SM01


    Glen Johnson and Luis Suarez.


    That's a particularly weak attempt at a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Bridge and Terry .

    Bridge retired over from international football over that .

    Wow never knew that one. :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    SM01 wrote: »
    That's a particularly weak attempt at a joke.

    Who said anything about a joke?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Henchos and Hyypia , one slept with the others wife ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Glen Johnson and Luis Suarez.

    By your logic then Terry/Drogba, Malouda, Rameires, etc, etc.

    Good man Willie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    By your logic then Terry/Drogba, Malouda, Rameires, etc, etc.

    Good man Willie.

    If JT is found guilty then yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    If JT is found guilty then yes.

    You live in a simple little world Willie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Dyer and Woodgate got into an on field brawl years ago as well haha.

    That was Dyer and Bowyer unless there was another incident with the above too. *Runs to google

    Roy Keane said in his book he didnt like Sheringham either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    You live in a simple little world Willie.

    Ah Turty, I know you were lost for material but that's a poor comeback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭IITYWYBMAD


    If JT is found guilty then yes.

    Yawn....take it to another thread will ya?

    Roy Keane slagged a few people in his book. Didn't he have a go at G Neville and Beckham?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Barton has had a few run ins with team-mates. Dabo was one anyway.

    Craig Bellamy and Alan Shearer dont think liked each other either.

    Pierre van Hooijdonk and the either Nottingham Forest squad the year he went on strike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    TaosHum wrote: »
    Barton has had a few run ins with team-mates. Dabo was one anyway.

    Craig Bellamy and Alan Shearer dont think liked each other either.

    Bellamy's list could be as long as his arm.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Bellamy and Riise (Golf club incident)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    i wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the chelsea squad despise terry & cashley cole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭token56


    Roy Keane and Jason McAteer, although they only seemed to play against each other when things were bad. Also I'm sure Keane has a couple of more on his list, dont think he was fond of Schmeichel or Sheringham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    token56 wrote: »
    Roy Keane and Jason McAteer, although they only seemed to play against each other when things were bad. Also I'm sure Keane has a couple of more on his list, dont think he was fond of Schmeichel or Sheringham.
    Actually I think Keane and Triggs have both given independent interviews where they say that they got on better than most. That that one incident was just a heat of the moment thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Gallas and Nasri have on on going feud afaik too..


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Kess73 wrote: »

    I wonder if Cole has any idea just how pathetic he sounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    GetWithIt wrote: »
    Actually I think Keane and Triggs have both given independent interviews where they say that they got on better than most. That that one incident was just a heat of the moment thing.

    Wasn't that his dog?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    Pippo and Del Piero despised each other at Juve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Fowler87 wrote: »
    Gallas and Nasri have on on going feud afaik too..

    Good shout, they really dont like each other.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Wasn't that his dog?

    and McAteer's nickname, maybe Roy named the dog after him cos he thought it/he was a b!tch


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    Kess73 wrote: »

    I wonder if Cole has any idea just how pathetic he sounds.


    I've always thought it very petty. Maybe Sheringham was p*ssed off about being taken off or just p*ssed off about having a bad game or whatever.

    He didn't shake my hand. Bad manners at most Ffs.

    Imo, Cole comes out of it sounding the worst and terribly childish. Especially after 15 years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Reyes and Henry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Reyes and Henry.

    Story behind that? Google says nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    White and Black Dutch Players hated each other in Euro '96. Ate meals in different rooms.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Dyer and Bowyer had a fight on the field at Newcastle.

    adebayor and bendtner at arsenal didn't get on if I remember right.

    wrong sport but honorable mention to Shaq and Kobe. Has its own wiki page!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Lothar Matthaus and Stefan Effenburg
    In his autobiography, modestly titled I Showed Them All, Effenberg called Matthäus "a big mouth" and a "quitter". The book also contained a chapter entitled 'What Lothar Matthäus knows about football'. It consisted of a blank page


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Reyes and Henry.

    Wasnt that just the then Spain coach making a racist remark to reyes about Henry?

    Dont think it involved the players just a racist coach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Who said anything about a joke?

    OK so. Source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭KingdomYid


    Robbie Keane and Davids had a punch up in training at Spurs iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Wiggy Ireland and all those bullies


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