An open letter from Boards.ie to Minister Sean Sherlock

blubloblu

Patrick Nulty just emailed out a copy of a parliamentary question from a month ago. In the process, he leaked all the email addresses of the people who contacted him (classic Bcc fail).

Blikes

blubloblu wrote: »

Patrick Nulty just emailed out a copy of a parliamentary question from a month ago. In the process, he leaked all the email addresses of the people who contacted him (classic Bcc fail).

Hi new friends, lets email each other hundreds of pictures of cats since Patrick gave me your email address.

Also, a king in nigeria wants to leave me his fortune, i'll split it with you.

expectationlost

any update on those submissions docs, think its really important for them to be published as they should been published, before. i mean the submissions to the statutory instrument foi'd by matrim

DeVore

The one from Stephen Donnelly is going to be published week after next for input but we wont have a lot of time so stay tuned.

_AVALANCHE_

Doing It Wrong: Irish Newspaper Licensing Organization Asks Women’s Charity To Pay For Links

An Irish women’s charity, Women’s Aid, linked to some articles on the Irish Examiner (like this, this, and this) and thought that all was right with the world. Heck, that’s how the Internet works, right?

It turns out that according to the Irish Newspaper Licensing organization, you need to pay to link to the newspapers. And there the troubles begin.

Arguably the INL is in the right in most cases. They offer a special calculator for licensing entire pages or stories and everybody likes to get paid for their work, so what’s up with this? Essentially, the organization charged the charity for simple links on its webpage, a move that suggests a certain amount of draconian fervor.

The charity’s lawyers posted a nice rebuttal to the request, noting that:
By way of example, Independent News and Media plc publications generally display, under each story, a number of icons, clicking on which allows the story to be linked to on social media. Stories in The Irish Independent can be shared via almost 100 different internet platforms. The Irish Times offers over 300 ways to link to articles. In each case, the “sharing” takes the form of a hyperlink, often including the headline of the article, and a short abstract.

This abstract generally runs considerably longer than the 11 words the subject of the European Court of Justice’s decision in Infopaq International A/S v Danske Dagblades Forening (Case C-5/08). Given the prominence of these sharing and social media buttons on the websites of publications, they can be taken to form part of (if not to entirely supersede) the Terms of Use of the websites and their content. It should be noted that these social media buttons allow sharing not only via personal social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter, but also via website design platforms such as WordPress. In all cases, these platforms can be, and increasingly are used for commercial as well as personal purposes.

It seems, then, that the INL is overreacting in a particularly comical way. Obviously this sort of press attention will tone down the INL’s efforts and call off this attack but it’s interesting to see that this kind of stuff still happens on the Internet. It’s also interesting to see that the Irish Examiner has a great recipe for one pot lamb dinner.

VinLieger

I was under the impression that questions were being asked as to the legitimacy of the INL as an actual organisation

KyussBishop

It looks like ACTA is now dead
http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/05/31/1359204/european-parliament-committees-reject-acta-as-ip-backlash-grows

freeze4real

Hiya any updates on sopa, is it already in action in Ireland ?

DeVore

Its in effect yes. We made such a stink about it that it isn't being widely used but the ISPAI have said that their members have been on the receiving end of letters using it.

The CRC is now reviewing submissions and we've put in ours and I've assisted with another. Hopefully that brings some sanity to the situation.

freeze4real

DeVore wrote: »

Its in effect yes. We made such a stink about it that it isn't being widely used but the ISPAI have said that their members have been on the receiving end of letters using it.

The CRC is now reviewing submissions and we've put in ours and I've assisted with another. Hopefully that brings some sanity to the situation.

No arrest has been made, as I'm sure that lots of people have still watched movies online in one way or the order.

Has any ISP started to implement their anti piratebay software's ?

_AVALANCHE_

freeze4real wrote: »

No arrest has been made, as I'm sure that lots of people have still watched movies online in one way or the order.

Has any ISP started to implement their anti piratebay software's ?

Danish and UK ISPs (lots of them in the last few weeks/months) were told by the courts to block access to the Pirate Bay, to stop searches going to that IP, so the Pirate Bay changed their IP using the new IPv6. It has to go back to the courts now to get the ruling reworded to include new IPs or just use "Pirate Bay".

In the meantime, cuz of all the publicity and news coverage that it's being getting, Pirate Bay traffic has increased by 12 Million. lol. clever people. lol

Pirate Bay said Thanks and has advised people how to bypass any blocks that may be put in place. lol


(On phone so may be off with some of that, whatever)

AntiRip

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

Danish and UK ISPs (lots of them in the last few weeks/months) were told by the courts to block access to the Pirate Bay, to stop searches going to that IP, so the Pirate Bay changed their IP using the new IPv6. It has to go back to the courts now to get the ruling reworded to include new IPs or just use "Pirate Bay".

In the meantime, cuz of all the publicity and news coverage that it's being getting, Pirate Bay traffic has increased by 12 Million. lol. clever people. lol

Pirate Bay said Thanks and has advised people how to bypass any blocks that may be put in place. lol


(On phone so may be off with some of that, whatever)

I find it funny that they are making such a stink about tpb especially when there are literally thousands of other sites. Maybe they are trying to set a presidence and change the law with this particular site. I've never liked the site anyway.

It is ironic however that they are actually rising the awareness of this site and torrents in general by their actions

_AVALANCHE_

AntiRip wrote: »

Maybe they are trying to set a presidence and change the law with this particular site.

This ^^^.






Canadian IP Lobby Calls For ACTA, SOPA & Warrantless Search

"The Canadian intellectual property's lead lobby group, the Canadian IP Council (which represent the music, movie, software and pharma industries) released a new policy document (PDF) yesterday that identifies its legislative priorities for the coming years. Anyone hoping that the SOPA protests, the European backlash against ACTA, and the imminent passage of Canadian copyright reform might moderate the lobby group demands will be sorely disappointed. Michael Geist says it is the most extremist IP policy document ever released in Canada, calling for the implementation of ACTA, SOPA-style rules including website blocking and stopping search queries from resolving, liability for advertisers and payment companies, massive surveillance at the border and through delivery channels including searching through individual packages without court oversight, and spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars on private enforcement."

Bill C30, the country's much-maligned warrantless internet surveillance bill, is coming back with new provisions that would give the U.S. government access to Canadian citizens' private data.

:eek:

Incompl

DeVore wrote: »

Its in effect yes. We made such a stink about it that it isn't being widely used but the ISPAI have said that their members have been on the receiving end of letters using it.

In what sense was it used, do you know?






Censorship creep': Pirate Bay block will affect one-third of U.K


German court jails movie website founder

Random stuff ^^^:cool:

RUCKING FETARD

EU trade committee to vote this week on ACTA

US leads world in government removal requests to Google

Interestingly, according to the Irish Times (reporting from this week’s Dublin Conference for Internet Freedom) Thomas Melia, deputy assistant secretary of state in the US Bureau of Democracy, told attendees that “too many governments were filtering, censoring content, taking down sites, and perpetuating Internet shutdowns.”


That’s particularly rich given that not only does the United States lead the pack in terms of government takedown requests to Google, but the country was famously behind the raid against Megaupload, the FBI's “Operation in Our Sites,” and the financial blockade against Wikileaks, among other controversial tactics.

expectationlost

Paul Murphy SP MEP happens to be on the international trade committee

https://twitter.com/paulmurphymep/status/214653326988554241

he'll be there voting against

expectationlost

and it was defeated in the international trade committee, and will go to vote in plenary,i think the issue in the committee was to delay things in order for the furore to die down but it will go to plenary and hopefully rejected there too, and this vote influences their vote somehow

jkforde

ACTA in critical condition.... hopefully will be an ex-ACTA soon!

European trade committee votes to reject piracy treaty
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18533268

AntiRip

The international trade committee voted 19-12 against the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), recommending that the full European Parliament should bury the treaty next month, and calling the document ‘vague’.-Thejournal.ie

I think it's dead now. Hope Sherlock feels like a total prat now. All that for nothing! :rolleyes:

AlmightyCushion

AntiRip wrote: »

I think it's dead now. Hope Sherlock feels like a total prat now. All that for nothing! :rolleyes:

ACTA and what Sherlock brought in are two different things.

AntiRip

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

ACTA and what Sherlock brought in are two different things.

Sorry, that's right. Mistakenly linked the two although Ireland had also signed this off as well. I still stand by my Sherlock statement

Run_to_da_hills

That's funny, a lot of Europeans see the EU as an unelected form of tyrannical occupational government, Please, keep pushing the people and see what happens..


'In a remarkable statement, the copyright monopoly fundamentalist Marielle Gallo of the Gallo Report infamy – says that the citizens of Europe who have been campaigning against ACTA are terrorists.'

In a just-published interview (in French), Marielle Gallo – a Member of the European Parliament, no less – calls the anti-ACTA campaigns “A soft form of terrorism” (une forme douce de terrorisme). Yes, she really does say that the citizens of Europe, her constituency, who contact her colleagues in Parliament regarding a concerning political matter should be regarded as terrorists".


http://www.edri.org/acta_gallo

RMD

To call the EU a tyrant is a ridiculous analogy. Furthermore it is elected, we elect the MEPs who represent us.

A politician said a ridiculous statement with little thought put into it, shocking eh?

KyussBishop

The 'three strikes' policy, so contentious it was removed from ACTA itself, is now active here in Ireland once again:
Irish Record Labels Win, Court Reinstates “3 Strikes” For File-Sharing
https://torrentfreak.com/irish-record-labels-win-court-reinstates-3-strikes-for-file-sharing-120628/

We now have website blocking laws (which are only being selectively used now, but give it a year or two), and three strikes; we're well on the slippery slope.

briany

KyussBishop wrote: »

The 'three strikes' policy, so contentious it was removed from ACTA itself, is now active here in Ireland once again:
Irish Record Labels Win, Court Reinstates “3 Strikes” For File-Sharing
https://torrentfreak.com/irish-record-labels-win-court-reinstates-3-strikes-for-file-sharing-120628/

We now have website blocking laws (which are only being selectively used now, but give it a year or two), and three strikes; we're well on the slippery slope.

How did the three strikes thing work out the last time it was in place? It's such an incredible exercise in futility for these interest groups and it's gobsmacking that they continue to pursue the policy of making ISPs do this. ISPs know that a large chunk of their business comes from people who use torrents, who stream, who use cyberlockers for purposes both pirate and non-pirate. Eircom will sandbag on that one as much as they can so long as they can, as they did last time. Besides, what has changed in the ID'ing tech from the last time when a number of innocents received warning letters and the whole thing was deemed as a farce?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

'In a remarkable statement, the copyright monopoly fundamentalist Marielle Gallo of the Gallo Report infamy – says that the citizens of Europe who have been campaigning against ACTA are terrorists.'

In a just-published interview (in French), Marielle Gallo – a Member of the European Parliament, no less – calls the anti-ACTA campaigns “A soft form of terrorism” (une forme douce de terrorisme). Yes, she really does say that the citizens of Europe, her constituency, who contact her colleagues in Parliament regarding a concerning political matter should be regarded as terrorists".


http://www.edri.org/acta_gallo

Terrorism as a word has lost much of it's meaning. The overuse of the term shows a disturbing lack of language and lends it a newspeak propaganda like quality. Because it's used as a political weapon and there's no iron clad internationally agreed definition, it is bandied about the place like nobody's business - everyone's calling everybody else a terrorist nowadays. I think terrorism as a word has jumped the shark, not many buy into it anymore but it's continued use in spite of that only highlights the hysterical, self important, self righteous and detached views of those like Ms. Gallo.

KyussBishop

Indeed as you say, this is how Three Strikes worked out the first time:
ISP Wrongfully Sent 300 “First Strike” Letters To Innocents
https://torrentfreak.com/isp-wrongfully-sent-300-first-strike-letters-to-innocents-110617/

Then the Irish data protection watchdog blocked Eircom's three strikes rules:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/21/irish_isp_told_to_stop_using_3_strikes/

Now they are back again, and it looks like the record labels are going to start going after other ISP's again now.

RUCKING FETARD

KyussBishop wrote: »

The 'three strikes' policy, so contentious it was removed from ACTA itself, is now active here in Ireland once again:
Irish Record Labels Win, Court Reinstates “3 Strikes” For File-Sharing

KyussBishop wrote: »

Indeed as you say, this is how Three Strikes worked out the first time:
ISP Wrongfully Sent 300 “First Strike” Letters To Innocents
https://torrentfreak.com/isp-wrongfully-sent-300-first-strike-letters-to-innocents-110617/

Then the Irish data protection watchdog blocked Eircom's three strikes rules:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/21/irish_isp_told_to_stop_using_3_strikes/

Now they are back again, and it looks like the record labels are going to start going after other ISP's again now.

Ho Ho Ho, this is nothing, read this.

Internet users who illegally download music, movies and e-books will be sent warning letters in a crackdown that could lead to court action for copyright theft.


A new regime to tackle online piracy will in effect treat individuals as ‘guilty until proven innocent’.


Those wrongly accused of illegal downloading will have to pay a £20 fee to appeal in a move that has angered consumer groups.

The controls on internet piracy, due to come into effect in early 2014, were outlined yesterday by the broadcasting regulator Ofcom under the Digital Economy Act 2010.

The same Act includes punishments that could, in future, see accused families having their internet service slowed down, capped or even cut off.


An industry code will require large internet service providers (ISPs) such as BT, Virgin, Sky and TalkTalk to send warning letters to families suspected by entertainment firms of illegally downloading or uploading copyright material.


If a customer gets three letters or more within a year, copyright holders such as movie and music companies will have a right to ask for details of the material involved.

These companies will then be able to apply for a court order requiring the ISP to reveal the customer’s name and address.


The information would be used to pursue the person involved through the civil courts for damages.

However, there are concerns that innocent internet users, for example those whose wireless connections are hijacked by a neighbour or criminal, will be caught up in the new regime.


Those sent a warning letter will be assumed guilty unless they can prove their innocence after paying a £20 fee to appeal to an Ofcom body.


Mike O’Connor, of the customer body Consumer Focus, said: ‘Copyright infringement is not to be condoned, but people who are innocent should not have to pay a fee to challenge accusations. It could deter those living on low incomes from challenging unfair allegations.’
If the new system does not stop piracy, ministers will be able to go back to Parliament to enact rules in the Digital Economy Act that could see households having their internet service cut off.
‘The ability to appeal is therefore critical to ensure consumers who have done nothing wrong are not deprived of internet access further down the line,’ said Mr O’Connor.


Creative industries minister Ed Vaizey said entertainment firms had to be able to ‘protect their investment’, adding: ‘The Digital Economy Act is an important part of protecting our creative industries against unlawful activity.’


Ofcom’s Claudio Pollack said: ‘Ofcom will oversee a fair appeals process, and also ensure that rights holders’ investigations under the code are rigorous and transparent.

Meanwhile in the US, Time Warner has patented a way to stop you fast forwarding through the commercials in programs that you have recorded on your DVR box-->think sky box.


But what oh what are they gonna do about Megabox.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3108565/megaupload-kim-dotcom-megabox-wozniak-announcement


Amendments to U.N. treaty could censor the Internet


Expect an announcement anytime to stick chips up peoples butts so they know what they had for breakfast.

matrim

KyussBishop wrote: »

The 'three strikes' policy, so contentious it was removed from ACTA itself, is now active here in Ireland once again:
Irish Record Labels Win, Court Reinstates “3 Strikes” For File-Sharing
https://torrentfreak.com/irish-record-labels-win-court-reinstates-3-strikes-for-file-sharing-120628/

We now have website blocking laws (which are only being selectively used now, but give it a year or two), and three strikes; we're well on the slippery slope.

Just one thing on this, it's not law it's eircom policy. If you are with any other provider it doesn't apply

KyussBishop

That's true for now, but it's primarily a matter of time before the record labels go after the other ISP's again; they have also lobbies heavily in the copyright review (as they do), so I would be very unsurprised to see the results of the copyright view, enforcing stricter copyright laws like three strikes, rather than rolling back the ridiculous injunction.

briany

The way the labels, the studios and publishers are going about this is just so wrong and ill advised. Firstly, it's a ridiculously long process to identify and prosecute infringers open to god knows how much grey area. Most users after getting their first warning letter would go VPN, filter IPs or just rip songs, movies, books from Youtube, video hosting sites and cyberlockers etc. Will they be able to spy on that type of activity?