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The Rothschild family

  • 26-01-2012 12:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    So little written about them? You're kidding right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Attabear


    darced wrote: »
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    Type Rothschilds and New World Order into your Google machine, close your curtains, take your phone off the hook and feast on the bounty that is the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Attabear


    darced wrote: »
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    Fair enough but I wouldn't presuppose that a lack of mass media attention necessarily lends any credence to conspiracy theorists views on this particular family

    Not that I'm suggesting you're doing this of course.

    I've just found that in conspiracy theory circles:

    "you don't hear much about X in the mass media" = "something very sinister about X"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    There's loads written about them in these things called books. Some of which are mass media and some of which aren't. If you decide to buy one be careful, you might be contributing to making it mass media.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    darced wrote: »
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    You're relying on the mainstream media to give you the truth especially uncomfortable truths?

    :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    darced wrote: »
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    glad we could answer all your questions. ya'll come back now...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    Have any attempts been made to calculate just how wealthy they are? Or would it simply prove too difficult?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Attabear


    Magazines and newspapers are constantly publishing "rich lists".

    The Sunday Times do one every year.

    Putting aside the accuracy of these rich lists (it's very difficult to tell), how high do any of the Rothschilds rank in any of these published lists?

    As far as I'm aware none of them are even in the top ten.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez



    Very good documentary, thanks! An unbiased account, its no suprise they are so wealthy, after 200 years i can see why they have their fingers in so many pies.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Attabear wrote: »
    Magazines and newspapers are constantly publishing "rich lists".

    The Sunday Times do one every year.

    Putting aside the accuracy of these rich lists (it's very difficult to tell), how high do any of the Rothschilds rank in any of these published lists?

    As far as I'm aware none of them are even in the top ten.

    Do you trust Rupert Murdoch to tell you the truth? Do you trust Murdoch to tell you the truth on a family he has close ties to? To tell the truth on a family he appoints to the board on companies he controls? On a family he invests with?

    I don't.

    Besided these "rich-lists" are estimates based on assets and holding in public companies. Not private companies or actual money in the bank.

    Hosni Mubarrak supposedly was worth 70 billion, which would make him number 1 on any rich-list. He was not, as far as I know on any of these lists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Jesus Nut


    It was annoucned on TV3 (Vincent Browns show at night) on Thursday that the "Rothschild's" where the unknown anglo bond holders who we paid over a Billion to during the week. RTE to date still refer to the bond holders as unknown! (As does Enda Kenny).

    Also, in 2009 our then minister for finance took advice of them on a US trip. After this trip the then goverment secured the bankers here in Ireland!

    You work that out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez


    They are massive bond traders and have been for over 200 years, whats the conspiracy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Attabear


    Do you trust Rupert Murdoch to tell you the truth?

    Sure. He seems like an honest enough fella.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    Very good documentary, thanks! An unbiased account, its no suprise they are so wealthy, after 200 years i can see why they have their fingers in so many pies.

    At least it reasonably informaive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Stripey Cat


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Rothschild
    Eva Rothschild (born 1972) is an Irish artist based in London.

    Rothschild was born in Dublin, Ireland. Her work references the art movements of the 1960s and 1970s, such as Minimalism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭AngryBollix


    They are massive bond traders and have been for over 200 years, whats the conspiracy?

    I doubt its a conspiracy how they earned their wealth. (Although I'm very much open to corection on that)

    Its just that with that level of wealth they must have their fingers in a hell of a lot of pies and they are in a position to exert an awful lot of influence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Jesus Nut wrote: »
    It was annoucned on TV3 (Vincent Browns show at night) on Thursday that the "Rothschild's" where the unknown anglo bond holders who we paid over a Billion to during the week. RTE to date still refer to the bond holders as unknown! (As does Enda Kenny).

    Also, in 2009 our then minister for finance took advice of them on a US trip. After this trip the then goverment secured the bankers here in Ireland!

    You work that out!

    But that was an out of date lst, first read by David Norris into the Seanad record, of the Euroclear emembers in whose accounts the bonds were held. These will mostly (if not solely) been custody and clearing agents for te ultimate owners. I'm no Fine Gaeler but as the bonds were issued as bearer bonds, there is no way of knowing who beneficially owns them. This is a fact which Indakinny seems incapable of pleading in his own defence. Shane Ross as a former stockbroker should know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Bump!!!


    Without the endless backlash of people rubbish conspiracies,

    A professor made a comment that there are only 4.countries In the world that do not have Rothschild banking system,

    North Korea= terrorists
    Iran= terrorists
    Cuba= terrorists
    Syria= terrorists


    Is there a connection????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Bump!!!


    Without the endless backlash of people rubbish conspiracies,

    A professor made a comment that there are only 4.countries In the world that do not have Rothschild banking system,

    North Korea= terrorists
    Iran= terrorists
    Cuba= terrorists
    Syria= terrorists


    Is there a connection????

    Yeah? What about Micronesia or Vatican City? Or China?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Yeah? What about Micronesia or Vatican City? Or China?:pac:

    I'm not totally read up on this,,


    Interesting thing I read was, in 2000, 8 countries did not have Rothschild owned central banking,

    Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, north Korea, Cuba , Iran.

    Shortly after 9.11 the war on Afghanistan begins, Afghanistan no longer on the list, nor is 3 more.

    Wonder when the next 'disaster ' will be constructed for the gains of an elite family

    I hope I'm nt coming across as some crazy ass conspiracist

    Just can't fathom how many things seem to link together

    Seems to be corruption at the highest level and it trickles down to the ground where we fight the bit out with no real purpose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Yeah? What about Micronesia or Vatican City? Or China?:pac:

    Im sure they have their grubby mitts in all three in one way or another :D

    Rothschild’s long-standing presence in China dates back to 1838, and we were one of the first business institutions from the Western world to re-establish relations after 1953.

    Our offices in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong give us direct access to the Chinese market. Our locally based team of advisory bankers commands an in-depth knowledge of the country’s economic development and the challenges facing its industries.

    Through many years advising China’s multinationals, state-owned and private enterprises, we have developed an exceptional understanding of the local regulatory and market environment. Our team is skilled at bridging the cultural gaps that sometimes exist between the managements of foreign and local companies.

    Senior bankers lead every assignment from start to finish, ensuring that all clients benefit from Rothschild’s intellectual capital and global network of contacts and industry sector expertise.

    http://www.rothschild.com/china-japan-korea/


    Rothschild family of Naples built up close relations with the Vatican Bank, and the association between the family and the Vatican continued into the 20th century. In 1832, when Pope Gregory XVI was seen meeting Carl von Rothschild, observers were shocked that Rothschild was not required to kiss the Pope's feet, as was then required for all other visitors to the Pope, including monarchs.[36]


    “ "Rothschilds... are the guardians of the papal treasure."

    -Encyclopedia Judaica, 1901–1906, Vol. 2, p.497

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family


    Micronesia's Membership in International Organizations

    Micronesia and the United States belong to a number of the same international organizations, including the United Nations, International Monetary Fund, and World Bank. Micronesia also belongs to the Pacific Islands Forum, of which the United States is a Dialogue Partner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    I remember the reports from the libya 'rebellion' one of the first acts of the new government was the establishment of a central bank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    I remember the reports from the libya 'rebellion' one of the first acts of the new government was the establishment of a central bank

    Yep, seems to be a huge pattern, as I said, I would be one of the first to criticize eejits with mad theories. But it seems that people have brought these 'similarities' up. I'm flabbergasted to how they haven't made big news , as stupid things like when gaga had last sneezed does,
    My interpretation is, control as we know it is not from government. But these elite banking families, as they pull the strings of the governments, how inhumane or these people to stage wars and kill people like mice to make money??
    Very interesting to Google the elite families of the world, who are above governments,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    what still confuses me is, we know who they are, we know where they live and we have access to guns,

    why are they still oppressing us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    what still confuses me is, we know who they are, we know where they live and we have access to guns,

    why are they still oppressing us[/quote



    Only end up in prison as 'terrorists' like every other sod that tried it or removed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Forgotten Iceland soquickly?
    I think they got lose of the Rothschilds grip.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bump!!!


    Without the endless backlash of people rubbish conspiracies,

    A professor made a comment that there are only 4.countries In the world that do not have Rothschild banking system,

    North Korea= terrorists
    Iran= terrorists
    Cuba= terrorists
    Syria= terrorists


    Is there a connection????

    If a Professor said that it must be true......


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    what still confuses me is, we know who they are, we know where they live and we have access to guns,

    why are they still oppressing us

    Because "were here" talking ****e instead...........:)


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    Torakx wrote: »
    Forgotten Iceland soquickly?
    I think they got lose of the Rothschilds grip.

    Maybe maybe, but their burgers aren't half bad.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    If a Professor said that it must be true......

    Totally unrelated to validity, I could have said postman, just happened to be one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Check out their history from the same site http://politicalvelcraft.org/rothschild/
    Generations of scum.

    Seen somewhere that Kennedy was trying to get rid of federal bank, I'm careful not to quote loads of stuff because Il look crazy, hence no one has been really believed when they come with this stuff,


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Totally unrelated to validity, I could have said postman, just happened to be one

    I understand. In which case which postman/professor was it....


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Seen somewhere that Kennedy was trying to get rid of federal bank, I'm careful not to quote loads of stuff because Il look crazy, hence no one has been really believed when they come with this stuff,

    Don't be, just reference your sources.......


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Seen somewhere that Kennedy was trying to get rid of federal bank, I'm careful not to quote loads of stuff because Il look crazy, hence no one has been really believed when they come with this stuff,

    Clicked the link, closed the link.

    Couldn't look at anything that opens with fiction.... i.e. quotation from the book of revelation........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Clicked the link, closed the link.

    Couldn't look at anything that opens with fiction.... i.e. quotation from the book of revelation........

    Good lad!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959



    Its just that with that level of wealth they must have their fingers in a hell of a lot of pies and they are in a position to exert an awful lot of influence.

    Same as any other wealthy family that acts in concert. The reason for all the conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds is due to one thing - anti-semitism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭seanie_c


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Same as any other wealthy family that acts in concert. The reason for all the conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds is due to one thing - anti-semitism.

    Bob lives in Fantasy Land, Pt. 1

    Bob had just finished his latest painting. It was of Iraqis sleeping in Gold plated beds, surrounded by red roses. There was candy growing on trees and delightful bunny rabbits hopping around. He was content knowing the Iraqis were now living in a paradise thanks to the infinite wisdom of his heroes.

    As he was thinking how great it would be to colonize Mars, his house mate Alice stumbled into the room looking a little distraught.

    Bob: Why the big frown?

    Alice: I just saw some terrible news on the Internet, the Israelis were bulldozing homes belonging to Palestinians. People say this is the reason Palestinians are blowing themselves up and attacking Israel.

    Bob: Nonsense! They blow themselves up because they think Allah will give them 72 virgins. It has nothing to do with Israelis bulldozing their homes....and besides, God chose the Jews to rule over that land many thousands of years ago. God knows best.

    Alice: But I think it's wrong for Israelis to force Palestinians out of their homes and live as refugees in the Gaza strip.

    Bob: That's just anti-Semitism, you're just a bigot, aren't you? you probably deny the holocaust too, don't you? admit it!!

    Alice: But...but how is my criticism anti-Semitic? Those people have nowhere to live now.

    Bob: Ha! Yes, you may try hide your bigotry behind those remarks but I'm no fool.

    Alice: Okay, never mind...just thought it was sad story.

    A bemused Alice, quickly left the room as Bob mumbled incoherently under his breath.

    Inside he knew the world was insane.

    Even if Israelis were building luxury homes with swimming pools on land once belonging to a Palestinian family, it was sanctioned by almighty God himself and it was perfectly okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    seanie_c wrote: »
    Bob lives in Fantasy Land, Pt. 1

    Bob had just finished his latest painting. It was of Iraqis sleeping in Gold plated beds, surrounded by red roses. There was candy growing on trees and delightful bunny rabbits hopping around. He was content knowing the Iraqis were now living in a paradise thanks to the infinite wisdom of his heroes.

    As he was thinking how great it would be to colonize Mars, his house mate Alice stumbled into the room looking a little distraught.

    Bob: Why the big frown?

    Alice: I just saw some terrible news on the Internet, the Israelis were bulldozing homes belonging to Palestinians. People say this is the reason Palestinians are blowing themselves up and attacking Israel.

    Bob: Nonsense! They blow themselves up because they think Allah will give them 72 virgins. It has nothing to do with Israelis bulldozing their homes....and besides, God chose the Jews to rule over that land many thousands of years ago. God knows best.

    Alice: But I think it's wrong for Israelis to force Palestinians out of their homes and live as refugees in the Gaza strip.

    Bob: That's just anti-Semitism, you're just a bigot, aren't you? you probably deny the holocaust too, don't you? admit it!!

    Alice: But...but how is my criticism anti-Semitic? Those people have nowhere to live now.

    Bob: Ha! Yes, you may try hide your bigotry behind those remarks but I'm no fool.

    Alice: Okay, never mind...just thought it was sad story.

    A bemused Alice, quickly left the room as Bob mumbled incoherently under his breath.

    Inside he knew the world was insane.

    Even if Israelis were building luxury homes with swimming pools on land once belonging to a Palestinian family, it was sanctioned by almighty God himself and it was perfectly okay.

    So your belief is that the Rothschild family are personally building luxury homes on land once belonging to a Palestinian family? Any evidence for this as a matter of interest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭seanie_c


    porsche959 wrote: »
    So your belief is that the Rothschild family are personally building luxury homes on land once belonging to a Palestinian family? Any evidence for this as a matter of interest?

    What about the Balfour Declaration?

    You think Rothschild family no longer have influence in that country? I almost forgot, there's no point using logic here in this discussion, that's why I wrote a little story for you instead, to illustrate how absurd your beliefs are.

    In your world, the earth is flat, the grass is red, 2 + 2 = 5, ignorance is strength.
    Calling people anti-Semitic because they criticize a family like Rothschild is really...really...REALLY ignorant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    seanie_c wrote: »
    What about the Balfour Declaration?

    You think Rothschild family no longer have influence in that country? I almost forgot, there's no point using logic here in this discussion, that's why I wrote a little story for you instead, to illustrate how absurd your beliefs are.

    In your world, the earth is flat, the grass is red, 2 + 2 = 5, ignorance is strength.
    Calling people anti-Semitic because they criticize a family like Rothschild is really...really...REALLY ignorant.

    I am at a loss to see what else the disproportionate, over-the-top and bizarre conspiracy theories around the Rothschilds can stem from other than anti-semitism - whether conscious or otherwise.

    Compare this to the lack of such conspiracy theories regarding wealthy gentile families and individuals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭seanie_c


    porsche959 wrote: »
    I am at a loss to see what else the disproportionate, over-the-top and bizarre conspiracy theories around the Rothschilds can stem from other than anti-semitism - whether conscious or otherwise.

    Compare this to the lack of such conspiracy theories regarding wealthy gentile families and individuals.

    What gentile families? Rockefellers for example? The Bush family?

    The only thing I can suggest is learning more about the Rothschild family.
    Their wealth and influence hasn't diminished at all over the centuries.


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    porsche959 wrote: »
    I am at a loss to see what else the disproportionate, over-the-top and bizarre conspiracy theories around the Rothschilds can stem from other than anti-semitism - whether conscious or otherwise.

    Compare this to the lack of such conspiracy theories regarding wealthy gentile families and individuals.

    There is anti semitism and anti zionism.

    Many jewish people are anti zionist.

    Money = power simples.........:)

    Beware casting stones of a racial nature. It is all to easy to claim the moral high ground.

    @Seanie.... there is no conspiracy. It is plain for all to see. Governance is a sham, democracy is a sham. Globalisation has the corporation as it's chief. All hail filthy lucre..............:)

    Keep safe and keep calm.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Michelekennedy


    Navigated here from economics with a question as to who owns the Central Bank of Ireland.
    From my research it would appear to be the Rothschilds family. A family, as pointed out in this thread, with much influence and power globally and I have read, wealth in the hundreds of trillions due to their involvement with Central Banks around the world.(And other nefarious dealings). Through my work, I am involved with the implementation of Central Bank regulation and legislation as it applies to Credit Unions and their governance. I am absolutely fuming at the ignorance of the institutions as to WHO actually wants to impose these restrictions and regulations. I've gotten into arguments about this and come across as a conspiracy LOON.
    Am I right though? Do the Rothschilds family own the Central Bank?


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