Dog crap all over Cabra

Tombo2000

So once again, I am walking with the kids to the child minders this morning. One of them gets tired along the way and wants to be carried.

I pick the child up and then notice the smell.

Dog crap on his shoe, dog crap all over my trousers from when I am carrying him. I get to the childminders and spend ten minutes cleaning dog faeces off the sole of his shoe. I have to return home to get changed instead of heading directly on to work.

I know its not the only place in Dublin that has this problem, but everywhere I go in Cabra there is dog crap on the footpaths. Its disgusting, its vile, its extremely dangerous also......who knows what disease is carred in this actual crap.

I'm just so bloody tired of not being able to bring a pram or a childs shoe or my own shoe into the house because of it. At least on the footpaths you can see it and have a chance of dodging it, but on any green area.....basically you have to stay off them and keep the kids off them because of it. Have dog owners in Cabra got no pride in their environs whatsoever that they allow this to happen? There is one corner near me that could literally be called Dog Crap Corner, as everytime I pass there are at least 5 or 6 different turds.

Now I know a lot of dog owners are responsible.

But there are clearly a huge amount who are not. My suspicion incidentally is that the irresponsible owners are elderly people who let their dog out "to do his business" first thing in the morning or last thing at night.

There are signs up all over the place saying it is littering, it is illegal, about the fines and so on, but to no avail. Is there anything that can be done about this.....in people's views. Or is it a pointless rant.

Twee.

Not a pointless rant, it's the same in Palmerstown. I have to swerve around the path down to the bus stop to avoid stepping in dog ****.

I don't know how it is enforced. Has anyone ever seen someone get fined for not cleaning up?

nudger

Twee. wrote: »

Not a pointless rant, it's the same in Palmerstown. I have to swerve around the path down to the bus stop to avoid stepping in dog ****.

I don't know how it is enforced. Has anyone ever seen someone get fined for not cleaning up?

Neighbour of mine was fined €120 I think, (it was a few years ago) they used to let the dog out in the morning and the dog would come back when hungry.
They didn't know he was making a mess of the place up the road a bit and someone took pic's over time and went to DCC, they knew who owned the dog.
Paid the fine, bought a lead and brought plastic bags, not happy but accepted it.


Tomboo2000, Roughly what area in Cabra are you talking about.

Tombo2000

nudger wrote: »

Neighbour of mine was fined €120 I think, (it was a few years ago) they used to let the dog out in the morning and the dog would come back when hungry.
They didn't know he was making a mess of the place up the road a bit and someone took pic's over time and went to DCC, they knew who owned the dog.
Paid the fine, bought a lead and brought plastic bags, not happy but accepted it.


Tomboo2000, Roughly what area in Cabra are you talking about.

East Cabra is where I live.....but my guess is it could be anywhere.

For example the bridge over the railway tracks at Faussagh Road, from the gaeilscoil up towards Carnlough. That bridge always has a 5 or so turds to dodge.

Similarly, the patch of green just outside the gaeilscoil......literally cant let the kids run on it.

All around East Cabra, but especially the road surrounding the Church.

Part of the problem here is that if you do complain about it formally, you are effectively reporting your neighbours to the authorities, and that can create all sorts of bad blood that can last for...well decades....

prettyboy81

Ashdown Dog Pound is where the Dog Warden service for Dublin City Council's administrative area is based.

I would imagine they would need some specific information if you want them to to target a particular street, green area, etc

I for one have witnessed Dog Warden service in action on Dollymount beach/St Anne's Park in both their vans & in summer time on their bikes patrolling the area.

If they don't know they cant act so might be worth your while contacting them.

nudger

Tombo2000 wrote: »

East Cabra is where I live.....but my guess is it could be anywhere.

For example the bridge over the railway tracks at Faussagh Road, from the gaeilscoil up towards Carnlough. That bridge always has a 5 or so turds to dodge.

Similarly, the patch of green just outside the gaeilscoil......literally cant let the kids run on it.

All around East Cabra, but especially the road surrounding the Church.

Part of the problem here is that if you do complain about it formally, you are effectively reporting your neighbours to the authorities, and that can create all sorts of bad blood that can last for...well decades....

It's not much better out west, broombridge area is not much better if not worse. Because of all the break ins poeple got dogs and not small ones for pets.
Its all big dogs and the owners just send the kids out who let/don't know any better/can't stop them from ****ting all over the place, also most scum have a few dogs and no good neighbours will report them, too scared.

Tombo2000

nudger wrote: »

It's not much better out west, broombridge area is not much better if not worse. Because of all the break ins poeple got dogs and not small ones for pets.
Its all big dogs and the owners just send the kids out who let/don't know any better/can't stop them from ****ting all over the place, also most scum have a few dogs and no good neighbours will report them, too scared.

well there is that issue as well.....

Pope John Paul park and the bogies good examples where pit bulls and rothweilers regularly off the leash, but that is a different story.

Both parks full of dog crap needless to say, especially Pope John Paul.

Tombo2000

prettyboy81 wrote: »

Ashdown Dog Pound is where the Dog Warden service for Dublin City Council's administrative area is based.

I would imagine they would need some specific information if you want them to to target a particular street, green area, etc

I for one have witnessed Dog Warden service in action on Dollymount beach/St Anne's Park in both their vans & in summer time on their bikes patrolling the area.

If they don't know they cant act so might be worth your while contacting them.

thats interesting but I think they would concentrate more on owners letting rothweilers and the like off a leash......

Esel

Tombo2000 wrote: »

Now I know a lot of dog owners are responsible.

The dirty bastards!

Faith+1

I caught a chap last week with his dog in my garden taking a cr*p! I'm not a tough guy or anything but my blood was boiling, I'd roared him out if it to clean it up.

I do agree with the other posters though, there's cr*p everywhere in cabra, especially on the navan road. :mad:

Tombo2000

Does anyone know if there any residents committee groups?

nudger

There's groups for the Navan road, Ashington, kinvara, Rathbourne, Martin Savage areas, I don't know about the older parts from AGS down to Phibsboro.
Give Cabra station a buzz they would have a list and contacts.

pabloh999

If you cant clean up after your dog you shouldnt be allowed have one.

nudger

Faith+1 wrote: »

I caught a chap last week with his dog in my garden taking a cr*p! I'm not a tough guy or anything but my blood was boiling, I'd roared him out if it to clean it up.

I do agree with the other posters though, there's cr*p everywhere in cabra, especially on the navan road. :mad:

That's really bad form, the thing is he can't be fined for that, if it had been the dog there is an on the spot fine of €150.

LeBash

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It's not much better out west, broombridge area is not much better if not worse. Because of all the break ins poeple got dogs and not small ones for pets.
Its all big dogs and the owners just send the kids out who let/don't know any better/can't stop them from ****ting all over the place, also most scum have a few dogs and no good neighbours will report them, too scared.[/Quote]

Agreed, I walk up bannow or carnlough most mornings and they are 2 of the worst roads I've ever seen. I don't know if a 40 ft would be able to contain it.

And that's where our beans come from!!!

franciebellew

Do people not use pooper scoopers? This is illegal activity and should be reported to the dog warden. These dogs will be taken from their owners and the problem should then be resolved

angel01

I live in Cabra East (around Annamoe) as well and it is a mess, you have to keep your wits about you when walking, it seems to be all over the roads and noone is doing anything about it to clean it up.

It puts you off going out for a walk when you have to spend your time dodging the cr*p :mad::mad:

uck51js9zml2yt

I'm living near the church in east cabra and in 30 years have never seen a warden.

Achtung! Bono

i was visiting a friend in Cabra a couple of times recently and i walked up from Phibsborough to Broombridge road ( barely 2 mile) and i kid you not, on the side of the street i walked up there must have been around 15. i was pretty shocked.

I live in London and very rarely see any dog Sh!te on the street here. Even in local dog walking areas you always see dog walkers with their plastic bags.

It's bad enough scumbags don't clean up after their dogs but ffs where's the council to clean it up.

nudger

Well I arrived home today and in my drive about 6 foot inside from the path was a large pile of dog **** (I hope).
What sort of stupid bastard lets their dog go into someone's garden to have a ****, If I had cough him/her, Jesus, I don't know what I would had done to them. The **** would have been leaving either in a bag, their pocket, or on their head.
I'll be watching out, had to be a big dog, only 2 I know off in the area and both have good owners.

Phenomenally Phrank

I'm a proud owner of a yorkie and his craps are miniscule but I always, always pick up after him, using bin bags that I have tied onto his lead-handle.

Anyways, quick, semi-topic-related question: Last saturday I got into an altercation with a local shopowner because I had placed a sealed bag of my dogs droppings into a large bin just inside the door of the shop. Bearing in mind it was a binliner bag, carrying a small enough load and it had been tied shut very tightly to prevent any chance of germs spreading. The bin was a very large one, not an average household bin but one of those heavy duty outdoor litter bins. I had been walking my dog, and picked up after him when he crapped, as I always do. There wasn't any other place I could put it in the vicinity.

Anyway the oul' bitch must've seen me drop the bag in the bin because she was out of the backroom like a shot, asking did I just drop my dog's crap in her bin. I said yes and she asked me to remove it. I refused. She continued to make a big fuss about it until I turned and told her that I had been giving that shop my loyal custom for 12 years but they could forget about it from then on. I then walked out.

Who was in the right there? Personally I think I was, since I had (A) picked up after my dog in the first place and (B) chosen a suitable receptacle for the 'refuse'.

Quentinkrisp

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

I'm a proud owner of a yorkie and his craps are miniscule but I always, always pick up after him, using bin bags that I have tied onto his lead-handle.

Who was in the right there? Personally I think I was, since I had (A) picked up after my dog in the first place and (B) chosen a suitable receptacle for the 'refuse'.

well at least you bothered to pick it up, so you're defo in the right there!

uck51js9zml2yt

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

I had placed a sealed bag of my dogs droppings into a large bin just inside the door of the shop.

Thats were your problem lies. It was inside her shop and she was within her rights to ask you not to put dog faeces in a bin inside her shop.

It's location raises serious health and safety concerns for the shop should she be inspected.

You owe her an apology.

Duckworth_Luas

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

Who was in the right there?

She was of course. You left dog sh1t inside her shop, how else do you expect her to react? You owe her an apology.

Phenomenally Phrank

Spencer Handsome Woodchuck wrote: »

Thats were your problem lies. It was inside her shop and she was within her rights to ask you not to put dog faeces in a bin inside her shop.

It's location raises serious health and safety concerns for the shop should she be inspected.

You owe her an apology.

Well she can fuck right off because she's not getting one! plus i've got loads of choices of other shops I can use. If she'd asked me politely I probably would've complied. The bin was designed to be placed outdoors anyway, not indoors, so she was committing a health and safety violation in the first place. Sure, I wasn't going to leave a dog's **** on the ****ing ground, jesus fucking christ, talk about getting your hand slapped for doing a good deed!:mad:

Phenomenally Phrank

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

She was of course. You left dog sh1t inside her shop, how else do you expect her to react? You owe her an apology.

Read my last post.

Quentinkrisp

Spencer Handsome Woodchuck wrote: »

Thats were your problem lies. It was inside her shop and she was within her rights to ask you not to put dog faeces in a bin inside her shop.

It's location raises serious health and safety concerns for the shop should she be inspected.

You owe her an apology.

Reread Phenomenally Phrank's post again: the dog**** was in a TIGHTLY SEALED BAG! And as if the health inspector was going to sift through all that ****ing rubbish, Jesus Christ get a fucking clue!

Phenomenally Phrank

Yeah get off your ****ing high horse and STFU, Tatranska!

Twee.

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

Sure, I wasn't going to leave a dog's **** on the ****ing ground, jesus fucking christ, talk about getting your hand slapped for doing a good deed!:mad:

Could you not have just waited for an outside/home bin? What happens when your dog goes and you're not near this shop? Do you leave the dog's waste on the ground?

People shouldn't be expecting a round of applause for cleaning up after their dog. You're supposed to do it.

Phenomenally Phrank

Twee. wrote: »

Could you not have just waited for an outside/home bin? What happens when your dog goes and you're not near this shop? Do you leave the dog's waste on the ground?

People shouldn't be expecting a round of applause for cleaning up after their dog. You're supposed to do it.

I place it in the nearest bin available.Not expecting a fucking round of applause. I could've easily just left it on the ground.

Mr. Presentable

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

Well she can fuck right off because she's not getting one! plus i've got loads of choices of other shops I can use. If she'd asked me politely I probably would've complied. The bin was designed to be placed outdoors anyway, not indoors, so she was committing a health and safety violation in the first place. Sure, I wasn't going to leave a dog's **** on the ****ing ground, jesus fucking christ, talk about getting your hand slapped for doing a good deed!:mad:

To be fair, cleaning up after your own dog is not "doing a good deed". You should either be taking said deposit home, or using a council supplied bin for it. The shopkeeper may have over-reacted, but putting your dog crap into a shop is not acceptable.

Twee.

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

I place it in the nearest bin available.Not expecting a fucking round of applause. I could've easily just left it on the ground.

Well, by saying "I could have easily just left it on the ground" does rather imply that that you want a pat on the back for putting in a bin.

The bin you chose was on private property. She may have overreacted, but I think you have as well. Save grief in the future and just use a public bin?

uck51js9zml2yt

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

Yeah get off your ****ing high horse and STFU, Tatranska!

There are no horses in this part of cabra to sit on

turnsoutIwas

@Phenomenally Phrank:
I seriously cannot believe that you think its ok to bring your dog's crap inside somebody's workplace and leave it there. Tightly wrapped or not, it isnt sealed and is very far from hygienic. Are you honestly saying that if somebody arrived at your house with a bag of crap and asked did you mind if they put it in your inside bin that you would be perfectly fine with that?
I'm assuming that you arent trolling here but would you cop on...you do owe that person an apology, whatever you might think...

nudger

Spencer Handsome Woodchuck wrote: »

There are no horses in this part of cabra to sit on

There might be today, the fair is on in Smithfield, Dogs might be the least of your worries.:D

biancab

its the same all over the country so sick of it , lots of signs up but who`s gonna stop it from happening and who enforces the fine??? Mr Nobody

Dathai

I've only noticed that it's started to get worse in the past two months or so. Coming up New Cabra road or going down Quarry Road or Annamoe and there's dog crap on the path every couple of feet. It's not even against a wall or anything, right bang in the middle and smeared all over the path.

breadandjam

When I'm out with my own dog-with a couple of plastic bags stuck in my pocket- I've seen others let their dogs do their business all over the path. When I offer them the lend of a plastic bag they either ignore me or tell me to f off.

I wish I could catch the person who lets his dog **** right in the mddle of my gate though:mad:

eric hoone

Anyone suspect this problem is worse since the plastic bag tax took millions of free plastic bags out of circulation?

breadandjam

eric hoone wrote: »

Anyone suspect this problem is worse since the plastic bag tax took millions of free plastic bags out of circulation?

No, it's pure laziness or distaste for picking up dog poo on the owners part

Galadriel

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

Who was in the right there? Personally I think I was, since I had (A) picked up after my dog in the first place and (B) chosen a suitable receptacle for the 'refuse'.

She was in the right, you should not have put it in her bin in her shop and then refuse to remove it, maybe she's glad you won't be shopping there again.

Nothingbetter2d

Tombo2000 wrote: »

So once again, I am walking with the kids to the child minders this morning. One of them gets tired along the way and wants to be carried.

I pick the child up and then notice the smell.

Dog crap on his shoe, dog crap all over my trousers from when I am carrying him. I get to the childminders and spend ten minutes cleaning dog faeces off the sole of his shoe. I have to return home to get changed instead of heading directly on to work.

I know its not the only place in Dublin that has this problem, but everywhere I go in Cabra there is dog crap on the footpaths. Its disgusting, its vile, its extremely dangerous also......who knows what disease is carred in this actual crap.

I'm just so bloody tired of not being able to bring a pram or a childs shoe or my own shoe into the house because of it. At least on the footpaths you can see it and have a chance of dodging it, but on any green area.....basically you have to stay off them and keep the kids off them because of it. Have dog owners in Cabra got no pride in their environs whatsoever that they allow this to happen? There is one corner near me that could literally be called Dog Crap Corner, as everytime I pass there are at least 5 or 6 different turds.

Now I know a lot of dog owners are responsible.

But there are clearly a huge amount who are not. My suspicion incidentally is that the irresponsible owners are elderly people who let their dog out "to do his business" first thing in the morning or last thing at night.

There are signs up all over the place saying it is littering, it is illegal, about the fines and so on, but to no avail. Is there anything that can be done about this.....in people's views. Or is it a pointless rant.

i live on the new cabra road and its covered in dog crap....... i wish the city council would put a few people to catch and fine the owners of these offending dogs.

kylith

It's not helped by the fact that bins have been removed all over Dublin. I know of several, including dog waste ones, that have vanished over the last few months. There is often a little pile of poo bags at the site where the bin used to be, like a shrine.

Of course, I'm in no way excusing people who don't clean up after their dogs, or pepole who leave bags around. I just put the handle of the bag round my wrist. There's always a bin somewhere.

breadandjam

As if the dog crap wasn't bad enough yesterday somebody dumped some dirty nappies on the path outside my gate. I discovered that there is an online mechanism to report illegal dumping on the City Council's website. It's quite easy and it seems to work as the Nappies were gone quite quickly.
So next time you see a pile of dog crap- fill this in. If enough of us do it then the City Council should get the message and do something

http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil/Pages/isupport.aspx

MadsL

breadandjam wrote: »

the City Council should get the message and do something

http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil/Pages/isupport.aspx

It is not the City Council that need to do something, it's dog owners who need to get the message.

breadandjam

MadsL wrote: »

It is not the City Council that need to do something, it's dog owners who need to get the message.

True but what I meant was the council could police the area and catch the dog owners in the act

Sacred_git

Tombo2000 wrote: »

East Cabra is where I live.....but my guess is it could be anywhere.

For example the bridge over the railway tracks at Faussagh Road, from the gaeilscoil up towards Carnlough. That bridge always has a 5 or so turds to dodge.

Similarly, the patch of green just outside the gaeilscoil......literally cant let the kids run on it.

All around East Cabra, but especially the road surrounding the Church.

Part of the problem here is that if you do complain about it formally, you are effectively reporting your neighbours to the authorities, and that can create all sorts of bad blood that can last for...well decades....

why not try and better yourself and move to a respectable area!!

nudger

Sacred_git wrote: »

why not try and better yourself and move to a respectable area!!

Very helpful post there, cheers.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Sacred_git wrote: »

why not try and better yourself and move to a respectable area!!

Why don't you try a different forum if you're going to take that attitude here?.

kleefarr

Dog feces are one of the most common carriers of the following diseases:

Heartworms
Whipworms
Hookworms
Roundworms
Tapeworms
Parvo
Corona
Giardiasis
Salmonellosis
Cryptosporidiosis
Campylobacteriosis

From: http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_toxic_dog_waste.asp

Not sure if they still do, but in Paris they used popper scoopers on motor bikes , that went around sucking it up and then spraying the area with disinfectant. Sound like the way to go for me, so far as combating the health side of things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motocrotte Not carried out anymore.

Penalties should still enforced though, if owners are not doing their duty.

Wikepedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooper-scooper

Dog droppings are one of the leading sources of E. coli (fecal coliforms) bacterial pollution, Toxocara canis and Neospora caninum helminth parasite pollution. One gram of dog feces contains over 20,000,000 E. coli cells.[2] While an individual animal's deposit of feces will not measurably affect the environment, the cumulative effect of thousands of dogs and cats in a metropolitan area can create serious problems due to contamination of soil and water supplies. The runoff from neglected pet waste contaminates water, creating health hazards for people, fish, ducks, etc.[3]

The situation is particularly dire[citation needed] in Germany, where an estimated 1400 tonnes of feces are deposited daily on public property. A citizen commission (2005) overwhelmingly recommended a plan that would break even at about seven months. DNA samples would be required when pet licenses come up for renewal. Within a year, a database of some 12,500 registration-required canine residents would be available to sanitation workers with sample-test kits. Evidence would be submitted to a forensics laboratory where technicians could readily match the waste to its dog. The prospect of a prompt fine equivalent to $600 US (at 2005 exchange rate) would help assure preventive compliance, as well as cover costs.[4] In adult dogs, the infection by Toxocara canis is usually asymptomatic but can be fatal in puppies.[5][6] A number of various vertebrates, including humans, and some invertebrates can become infected by Toxocara canis. Humans are infected, like other paratenic hosts, by ingestion of embryonated T. canis eggs.[7] The disease caused by migrating T. canis larvae (toxocariasis) results in visceralis larva migrans and ocularis larva migrans.Clinically infected people have helminth infection and rarely blindness.[8]

olly_mac

I lived on Quarry Road many years ago, and it was a problem even then. I was at a funeral recently in Christ the King church, and even the grounds of the church were full of dog crap. Walking along Annaly Road was like trying to pick a way through a minefield.

Mind you, I am living in the south inner city at present and the problem is the same here....