Derry loses arts/music festival to the men of violence

old hippy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-16676169

Well done, the lads. Ye must be proud.

How much damage must this tiny minority of fanatics do before we pitch back into the bad old days?

Dissident republican violence has put paid to plans for the first all-Ireland fleadh to be staged in Derry, an Irish traditional music body has claimed.
Comhaltas said it was impossible to support the city's bid to host the popular music and dance festival because of the danger.
The fleadh would have been staged in Derry's year as UK City of Culture.

smash

First oxegen, then The fleadh... What next?

minidazzler

I can't wait to hear the sympathizers blame the Brits for hating anything Irish and claiming it's not because of the bombings.

lazygal

Would we want to be joined to that part of the island on a permanent basis? Headcases seem to run the show up there.

Celly Smunt

What oppression caused this bombing now? :rolleyes:

old hippy

minidazzler wrote: »

I can't wait to hear the sympathizers blame the Brits for hating anything Irish and claiming it's not because of the bombings.

It's just sad. The people of Derry lose out and its reputation is lowered by the IRA-Qaeda wannabes.

KeithAFC

Obviously disappointment for the Irish people in the city. But it shows they need to rise up and stand up to the IRA. 40 million it could have brought in to the City.

old hippy

lazygal wrote: »

Would we want to be joined to that part of the island on a permanent basis? Headcases seem to run the show up there.

I used to be so positive about the idea of one nation but it's quite clear that we are two very different countries. Maybe they should seek independence from the UK and become their own entity.

old hippy

KeithAFC wrote: »

Obviously disappointment for the Irish people in the city. But it shows they need to rise up and stand up to the IRA. 40 million it could have brought in to the City.

They certainly do need to rise up against any paramilitaries but these headers are dissidents - the IRA is no longer in existence, Keith.

It's a disappointment for anyone who has a love & appreciation of music & the arts - it crosses all barriers.

John Doe1

I think its a bit of an overreaction on the part of the organisers, would have been a good day out too

Celly Smunt

old hippy wrote: »

I used to be so positive about the idea of one nation but it's quite clear that we are two very different countries. Maybe they should seek independence from the UK and become their own entity.

We are not different from the people of the north,Unionist or nationalist.The IRA are just scum who can't live with peace,they are just terrorists.The republic of Ireland shouldn't paint the north with a big brush because the tiniest of minorities decided to piss on their own doorstep once again.

John Doe1

old hippy wrote: »

I used to be so positive about the idea of one nation but it's quite clear that we are two very different countries. Maybe they should seek independence from the UK and become their own entity.

Im from donegal, there is very little difference between me and a derry person.

Thats an awful suggestion, they couldnt survive.

lazygal

pmcmahon wrote: »

The republic of Ireland shouldn't paint the north with a big brush because the tiniest of minorities decided to piss on their own doorstep once again.

We shouldn't, but its hard not to given these kind of stories and the reference by Gerry Adams to the "Brits" on national radio and the use of the phrase "Down here" by Martin McGuiness.

KeithAFC

old hippy wrote: »

They certainly do need to rise up against any paramilitaries but these headers are dissidents - the IRA is no longer in existence, Keith.

It's a disappointment for anyone who has a love & appreciation of music & the arts - it crosses all barriers.

To you and others, that is perhaps the case. But to these people, they still see themselves as the Irish Republican Army with a mandate from 1918.

I don't know a lot about this musical festival to be honest but for all Irish music lovers, this is a huge blow and the blame can't be pointed towards the "Brits".

NIMAN

I'm a Derry man living in donegal, and I think its very sad that they let the scumbags win the day.

Once we give in to the scum, whats left ?

Celly Smunt

lazygal wrote: »

We shouldn't, but its hard not to given these kind of stories and the reference by Gerry Adams to the "Brits" on national radio and the use of the phrase "Down here" by Martin McGuiness.

well i'm of the opinion that the north should remain part of Britain and would one day love to see Ireland back in Britain (i can hear the marches of republicans marching on this thread after me) but that is for the most part political and economic reasons,not social.We aren't much different down here though,in fact we're probably not as laid back as the north in many respects.On the case of Adams,aren't the Irish just as crazy for voting a terrorist into their own parliament?

old hippy

John Doe1 wrote: »

Im from donegal, there is very little difference between me and a derry person.

Thats an awful suggestion, they couldnt survive.

Ok, it may well be a knee jerk reaction on my part, mea culpa. But here in London they say the same thing about Scotland, that it wouldn't survive without the rest of the UK...

It is a shame that a minority mess it up for the majority.

old hippy

pmcmahon wrote: »

well i'm of the opinion that the north should remain part of Britain and would one day love to see Ireland back in Britain (i can hear the marches of republicans marching on this thread after me) but that is for the most part political and economic reasons,not social.We aren't much different down here though,in fact we're probably not as laid back as the north in many respects.On the case of Adams,aren't the Irish just as crazy for voting a terrorist into their own parliament?

Ex-terrorist, mind. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt. But not in my name.

Celly Smunt

old hippy wrote: »

Ex-terrorist, mind. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt. But not in my name.

A leopard never changes it's spots.

KeithAFC

As far as I see it, it is cultural apartheid by these "dissidents". They just can't seem to accept the title of UK. From the story on the BBC website, this is what the problem seems to be.

ejmaztec

I hope that one day, the men of violence on both sides, decide to all meet together in a big shed in the middle of nowhere to examine a consignment of highly unstable explosives, and that one of them decides to poke it with a stick.

Happyman42

A slap in the face for all those lazy partitionists who think the problem has been solved. They haven't gone away and won't. The bubble will keep getting burst.

John Doe1

ejmaztec wrote: »

I hope that one day, the men of violence on both sides, decide to all meet together in a big shed in the middle of nowhere to examine a consignment of highly unstable explosives, and that one of them decides to poke it with a stick.

we can live in hope:)

John Doe1

Happyman42 wrote: »

A slap in the face for all those lazy partitionists who think the problem has been solved. They haven't gone away and won't. The bubble will keep getting burst.

So you are siding with the guys who blow **** up?

Chuck Stone

pmcmahon wrote: »

well i'm of the opinion that the north should remain part of Britain and would one day love to see Ireland back in Britain

Lol. Dreamer. Over my dead body. Never fucking ever.

Anyway, I would like to see the people of Derry take these fuckers out. The Catholic population have what they want now and are represented from the bottom to the top of NI society - the fight is over - the road to equality is well traveled now and if anything superseded.

Happyman42

John Doe1 wrote: »

So you are siding with the guys who blow **** up?

I said that, where? :rolleyes:

sensibleken

It wouldnt suprise me if there is something else here at play other than the bombings. There are a lot of odd personality politics that go on at Comhaltas

Celly Smunt

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Lol. Dreamer. Over my dead body. Never fucking ever.

I know it will never happen,but it's something i'd like to see.

fullstop

KeithAFC wrote: »

40 million it could have brought in to the City.

But where would they fit 40 million people in Derry?

I am pie

Happyman42 wrote: »

A slap in the face for all those lazy partitionists who think the problem has been solved. They haven't gone away and won't. The bubble will keep getting burst.

Classic, i've heard this before.

It's everyone elses fault for following the democratic approach agreed by the overwhelming majority of people on this island is it ? We've to dance to their tune, or they'll bomb and shoot us is it ?

Fck them. Let them at it. The rest of us will try and work it out like human beings.

KeithAFC

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Lol. Dreamer. Over my dead body. Never fucking ever.

Anyway, I would like to see the people of Derry take these fuckers out. The Catholic population have what they want now and are represented from the bottom to the top of NI society - the fight is over - the road to equality is well traveled now and if anything superseded.

It isn't about Catholic equality for them. Never was.

Celly Smunt

fullstop wrote: »

But where would they fit 40 million people in Derry?

a good few could sit on the walls

Chuck Stone

pmcmahon wrote: »

I know it will never happen,but it's something i'd like to see.

Lol. Perhaps the stupidest aspiration I've ever read on these boards.

Good luck with you fantasies.

Happyman42

I am pie wrote: »

Classic, i've heard this before.

It's everyone elses fault for following the democratic approach agreed by the overwhelming majority of people on this island is it ? We've to dance to their tune, or they'll bomb and shoot us is it ?

Fck them. Let them at it. The rest of us will try and work it out like human beings.

For them the problem can't be solved if you don't address the problem: 'occupation by a foreign country'. Just because the majority accepted the occupation until such time as the majority want their country back doesn't mean that everybody is going to lie down and accept it. They where honest in not coming to the table to sign up...where is the suprise that they see the North as unfinished business?

Celly Smunt

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Lol. Perhaps the stupidest aspiration I've ever read on these boards.

Good luck with you fantasies.

Good luck with Germany.

Chuck Stone

KeithAFC wrote: »

It isn't about Catholic equality for them. Never was.

You're outside the spectrum of people I'm interested in engaging with. I've told you this on numerous occasions and yet you continue to try to get my attention and embarrass yourself.

Hilarious.

ItsAWindUp

Happyman42 wrote: »

For them the problem can't be solved if you don't address the problem: 'occupation by a foreign country'. Just because the majority accepted the occupation until such time as the majority want their country back doesn't mean that everybody is going to lie down and accept it. They where honest in not coming to the table to sign up...where is the suprise that they see the North as unfinished business?

But it isn't really, seeing as the vast majority of people voted for it to be the way it is.

John Doe1

Happyman42 wrote: »

For them the problem can't be solved if you don't address the problem: 'occupation by a foreign country'. Just because the majority accepted the occupation until such time as the majority want their country back doesn't mean that everybody is going to lie down and accept it. They where honest in not coming to the table to sign up...where is the suprise that they see the North as unfinished business?

Since the good friday agreement, the republic has no claim on NI

Celly Smunt

Chuck Stone wrote: »

You're outside the spectrum of people I'm interested in engaging with. I've told you this on numerous occasions and yet you continue to try to get my attention and embarrass yourself.

Hilarious.

then why do you re-engage?

Happyman42

John Doe1 wrote: »

Since the good friday agreement, the republic has no claim on NI

And they signed up to the GFA, did they? :rolleyes:

Chuck Stone

pmcmahon wrote: »

Good luck with Germany.

Germany? Wouldn't be too bad. Good people with a stable government and, unlike the UK, one of the world's power-house manufacturers of high quality goods. They also have good counter-cyclical policies that neither the UK or Ireland adopted and look at the unemployment in both countries.

We could learn a lot from them

sensibleken

Well this thread crashed and burned early on

KeithAFC

The argument that they didn't sign up to the GFA is not a good argument because a hell of a lot of people in the PUL community didn't sign up to it either. Don't see us trying to bomb Cavan or Donegal to get the 3 counties back.

Celly Smunt

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Germany? Wouldn't be too bad. Good people with a stable government and, unlike the UK, one of the world's power-house manufacturers of high quality goods. They also have good counter-cyclical policies that neither the UK or Ireland adopted and look at the unemployment in both countries.

We could learn a lot from them

Sure then you might as well give up Ireland and your Anti-British sentiment and invite them in with open arms.

John Doe1

Happyman42 wrote: »

And they signed up to the GFA, did they? :rolleyes:

I doubt the scum can write their own name tbh

I am pie

Happyman42 wrote: »

For them the problem can't be solved if you don't address the problem: 'occupation by a foreign country'. Just because the majority accepted the occupation until such time as the majority want their country back doesn't mean that everybody is going to lie down and accept it. They where honest in not coming to the table to sign up...where is the suprise that they see the North as unfinished business?

I expect them to respect the will of the majority of the people living in this island.

A criminal perceives that they have every right to commit crime to fund a lifestyle they are entitled to. Just because the majority deem that this is not acceptable doesn't mean that they are going to lie down and accept it. Does that logic stack up for you? To me the same applies to the criminals attacking and killing Irish people on this island.

Hopefully a few more of them will be heading to jail to join Mr Chivers, hopefully none of them get the opportunity to kill again.

Chuck Stone

pmcmahon wrote: »

then why do you re-engage?

If you look at the last, maybe 5 or 6 posts where I engaged it they consistently reminded it that I have no interest in engaging.

I've long since stopped quoting it but it quotes me.

Some people have difficulty learning by rote I guess.

ejmaztec

Happyman42 wrote: »

A slap in the face for all those lazy partitionists who think the problem has been solved. They haven't gone away and won't. The bubble will keep getting burst.

We all know the problem hasn't been solved, but it's getting solved politically, and not by the retards planting bombs around the place.

I think a lot of those high-ranking dissidents are green with envy at their old colleagues who are gaining more and more respect from all sides in NI politics, whilse they themselves are scratching around on the edge stirring the sh1t up.

sensibleken

Is for the best. Can't stand Comhaltas myself and the idea of competetive playing is a rediculous in irish music. Its supposed to be co-operative. Stiffling they are

Chuck Stone

pmcmahon wrote: »

Sure then you might as well give up Ireland and your Anti-British sentiment and invite them in with open arms.

I'm not anti-British. I have a lot of respect for our neighbour's technological achievements. A country with an incredible technological past.

Their 'leaders', like ours, are a different proposal altogether.

ejmaztec

They should hold it down here, and give one of our towns the opportunity of shoving the price off booze, food and accommodation up for the duration, as is usual practice on these occasions.:(