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Irish Team of the Week
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22-01-2012 6:17pm#1
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porterbelly wrote: »1. Cian Healy
2. Richard Strauss
3. John Afoa
Obviously I'll be seriously picked up on including the whole Connacht back 5 but I can't leave any of them out, they were all outstanding, 126 tackles from the pack speaks for itself, vast majority from the back 5. Any of them could have got the mom. Donnacha Ryan, Peter O Mahony, James Coughlan and Chris Henry all played well but the workrate and the desire of the Connacht back 5, who all saw out the 80 minutes was truly inspirational.
Fairness, with 38 tackles from the front row they could be added aswell
:D:D
Flavin was a beast Friday night.0 -
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OF the weekend...
15. Kearney
14. Zebo
13. Earls (as much as it pains me)
12. D'arcy
11. Nacewa
10. Oconnor/ROG
09. Murray
08. Heaslip/coughlan
07. Henry
06. Ferris
05. POC
04. Tuohy
03. Afoa
02. Strauss/best
01. Botha
Trimble worth a mention but Isa denied mont any wind advantages.
Nobody from the Connacht pack? 0 -
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porterbelly wrote: »OF the weekend...
15. Kearney
14. Zebo
13. Earls (as much as it pains me)
12. D'arcy
11. Nacewa
10. Oconnor/ROG
09. Murray
08. Heaslip/coughlan
07. Henry
06. Ferris
05. POC
04. Tuohy
03. Afoa
02. Strauss/best
01. Botha
Trimble worth a mention but Isa denied mont any wind advantages.
Nobody from the Connacht pack?
It annoys me that supposedly 'Irish' supporters picking the 'Irish' team of the week can't even watch the 4 provinces play. Tuohy was below average at best this week and DOC, Ryan, Leo and def Macca and Swifty were much better than him.
As I said before muldoon and mccarthy were the stand out performers of the weekend, hands down. Zebo and Kearney were the stand out backs, both fantastic performances. The only disappointment was that all the 9/10s played average at best0 -
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Re: the lack of Connacht players in my forward selection.
I thought McCarthy was pedestrian to be fair. Lumping yourself around the breakdown and diving over the ball doesn't count. I loved Muldoon in the game, but honestly thought he also got away with murder in the game, to the point had it been a different ref on a different day he'd be giving the opposition 3 points all day.
Ryan was excellent for Munster once again, but for me he's more a back-row forward. His work at the breakdown is immense. But Tuohy is your classic lock, he puts in the work in the mauls and is a solid unit at scrum time. He's also very niggily, gets under players skin, and hoping he learned alot for Sir Hines too.
Leo was excellent for the first 20 or so at the RDS, but then became quiet. If anything I would've given the nod to Browne on the day, even if he did give away a silly yellow.
So, d-gal, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I did watch all of the games this weekend, and I did follow Connacht's game closely. They played well to get the win, but weren't as good as the other provinces. That's all.0 -
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Re: the lack of Connacht players in my forward selection.
I thought McCarthy was pedestrian to be fair. Lumping yourself around the breakdown and diving over the ball doesn't count. I loved Muldoon in the game, but honestly thought he also got away with murder in the game, to the point had it been a different ref on a different day he'd be giving the opposition 3 points all day.
Ryan was excellent for Munster once again, but for me he's more a back-row forward. His work at the breakdown is immense. But Tuohy is your classic lock, he puts in the work in the mauls and is a solid unit at scrum time. He's also very niggily, gets under players skin, and hoping he learned alot for Sir Hines too.
Leo was excellent for the first 20 or so at the RDS, but then became quiet. If anything I would've given the nod to Browne on the day, even if he did give away a silly yellow.
So, d-gal, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I did watch all of the games this weekend, and I did follow Connacht's game closely. They played well to get the win, but weren't as good as the other provinces. That's all.
Not closely enough obviously
McCarthy did alot more than lump himself around the breakdown. He was responsible for about 5 Connacht penalties. He didn't just tackle, he held the man up and turned him around on the ground to allow Ofisa twice, Naoupu once and Reyneke twice to come in plant themselves over the ball and win the penalty. Absoloutely unbelievble work that requires strength in abundance, skill and discipline. His work rate was off the charts. He also contributed to many choke tackles, which didn't work to the affect we would have liked but it allowed the ball to be slowed down considerbaly for Quins. Quins had done their homework and when they saw the choke happening they immediately came in and took away the legs of the tackler which was smart play.
The Connacht discipline was exemplary, no coincedence we weren't whistled off the pitch when we had one of the best referees around in Nigel Owens. It's nice to see us get a decent ref for a change rather than some creature who blows against us on every opposition attack. Muldoon was terrific, he gave away one penalty when he was caught on the wrong side, fair enough.
I dare say if Quins were there til now they still wouldn't have got over the line because the workrate and courage from the forwards was inspirational.0 -
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siltirocker wrote: »Fair enough. But I just think it's pathologically wrong to have relatively poor performance from Dan Tuohy ahead of Mike McCarthy. Who made it into ESPNScrum's team of the week for the whole tournament. Opinion or not.
If in someone's opinion the sky is a brownish green you don't have to respect it because they are fundamentally wrong.
Well that's ESPN's opinion once again. Hopefully they don't use their stats to back that up.
The difference was the game in hand however. Connacht at home needing a win to redeem their past close-call games, and Ulster away in Clermont to secure a home quarter final. Dan Tuohy had a much harder day at the office, and could've been blown away by Hines and Pierre, but he didn't, he held his own, and did his job solidly. That for me, in my opinion, is worth more than what McCarthy had to put up with.0 -
siltirocker wrote: »Fair enough. But I just think it's pathologically wrong to have relatively poor performance from Dan Tuohy ahead of Mike McCarthy. Who made it into ESPNScrum's team of the week for the whole tournament. Opinion or not.
If in someone's opinion the sky is a brownish green you don't have to respect it because they are fundamentally wrong.
Of which pathology would this be indicative?
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siltirocker wrote: »Fair enough. But I just think it's pathologically wrong to have relatively poor performance from Dan Tuohy ahead of Mike McCarthy. Who made it into ESPNScrum's team of the week for the whole tournament. Opinion or not.
If in someone's opinion the sky is a brownish green you don't have to respect it because they are fundamentally wrong.
Well that's ESPN's opinion once again. Hopefully they don't use their stats to back that up.
The difference was the game in hand however. Connacht at home needing a win to redeem their past close-call games, and Ulster away in Clermont to secure a home quarter final. Dan Tuohy had a much harder day at the office, and could've been blown away by Hines and Pierre, but he didn't, he held his own, and did his job solidly. That for me, in my opinion, is worth more than what McCarthy had to put up with.
Connacht played the form team of the premiership and played against a very good backrow who supposedly has the future English captain in it and Muldoon has made him look average on two occasions this season.
Munster played a backrow minus their best player (Wood) yet Coughlan gets more of a mention (not saying he didn't have a bad game).0 -
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