NAMM 2012

Squidgy Black

Figured we may as well get a thread going on this.

Fender have released a new series of Pawnshop amps, one is a 15 watt tube with a 15" speaker for $300 from the demos it sounds amazing.

Orange also have 4 new models, the Jim Root tiny terror, the micro terror (a 20 watt micro amp with a 12ax7 in the pre and a solid state output) the OR50 and the OR15

Marshall have launched 1 watt versions of the JCM800, JCM2000, Plexi, JVM, they all look to be around $700 which is a bit ridiculous.

CianRyan

The only reason Marshall can charge that much is because every punk/80's metal fan boy will leg it out and buy a "JCM800".
Don't get me wrong, I nearly bought one before I got the Supersonic, but I can just see these being as good as pile of trash.
I haven't like the vast majority of Marshall's recent stuff.


The Pawnshop amps, we talking toooooobs?

Miklos

The new Fender Excelsior looks like a little killer! Perfect bedroom practice amp.

As much as I think the JCM800 is a radical amp, 700 dollah for a 1 watt version of it is ludicrous. That's near the price of an actual one!

Marshall Ireland

Don't miss the point on the 1w 50th Anniversary colllection guys. These are class A limited edition amps not practice amps! Highly desirable to connoissuers of valve tone and collectors in general. There are five models, each one representing a decade of Marshall. Check out Chris George on youtube Namm 2012.
Keep an eye out to see how many of your guitar heroes have ordered the set!

The_g-man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrWoS0JXGs

http://www.modemachines.com/en/products/

http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/usb-midi/keyboard-controllers/graphite49/

http://www.studiologic-music.com/sledge.html

http://line6.com/stagescape-m20d/

http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=td-30kv

http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=gt-100

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/namm-2012-fender-unveils-debut-multi-effects-unit-the-mustang-floor-524335

http://www.tc-helicon.com/voicelive-play-gtx-preset-showcase/

http://www.tc-helicon.com/voicelive-play-first-impressions-with-georgia-murray/

http://www.tc-helicon.com/voicelive-play-10-things-to-know/

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/namm-2012-alesis-vortex-keytar-midi-controller-525237

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/01/19/wnamm12-the-keith-mcmillen-instruments-quneo/

Miklos

Marshall Ireland wrote: »

Don't miss the point on the 1w 50th Anniversary colllection guys. These are class A limited edition amps not practice amps! Highly desirable to connoissuers of valve tone and collectors in general. There are five models, each one representing a decade of Marshall. Check out Chris George on youtube Namm 2012.
Keep an eye out to see how many of your guitar heroes have ordered the set!

They do seem to sound nice in the soundclips on premierguitar's YouTube channel, but the pricetag is hefty for what you get!

Marshall Ireland

Hi Nick
We haven't released any pricing here yet- Marshall is always a little more expensive in the US as it's made in the UK. They're not cheap but they are very special and very collectable. I've heard each model and you seriously would not believe how loud 1w Class A is. And they're super pretty too.
When they start to come through I'll put a post up. Watch out for more announcements for new products too....

Paolo_M

NickWray wrote: »

They do seem to sound nice in the soundclips on premierguitar's YouTube channel, but the pricetag is hefty for what you get!

They sound great, I was pleasantly surprised as I wasn't expecting much.
They are very authentic to the era tonally also.
I own a 71 JMP and an 81 JCM800 and these do have those tonal signatures.

Marshall Ireland wrote: »

Hi Nick
We haven't released any pricing here yet- Marshall is always a little more expensive in the US as it's made in the UK. They're not cheap but they are very special and very collectable. I've heard each model and you seriously would not believe how loud 1w Class A is. And they're super pretty too.
When they start to come through I'll put a post up. Watch out for more announcements for new products too....

Looking forward to it, though I'm skint.

jamieh

Martin launched a new John Mayer signature - 0045SC John Mayer Stage Coach.

http://www.themusiczoo.com/blog/2012/martin-00-45sc-john-mayer-stagecoach-edition/

$14k!!

MilanPan!c

The new Klon also debuted... still no word on price...

Squidgy Black

Fair enough if they're class A, but considering the fact you can pick up a used JCM2000/800 and the JVM for the same price as the heads it's too steep.

The pawnshop series are all tube, 6L6.

The Klon still hasn't gotten an official release date though, despite the fact it's been 'planned' for release for the last 2 years....

IK Multimedia are bringing out some amazing stuff for iOS like a stompbox for guitars, a mic pre and a DJ rig.

-=al=-

lots of cool **** popping up, i know a few folks gone over to it pretty interesitng shizzle goin on

Marshall Ireland

stetyrrell wrote: »

Fair enough if they're class A, but considering the fact you can pick up a used JCM2000/800 and the JVM for the same price as the heads it's too steep.

The pawnshop series are all tube, 6L6.

The Klon still hasn't gotten an official release date though, despite the fact it's been 'planned' for release for the last 2 years....

IK Multimedia are bringing out some amazing stuff for iOS like a stompbox for guitars, a mic pre and a DJ rig.

They're not- I don't know where that came from! As mentioned earlier we haven't released any pricing yet. They're not cheap but certainly nowhere near the price of a flagship head!

Marshall Ireland

Let me explain what the 2012 Marshall Anniversary amps are all about and then I'll leave you guys to it.



Marshall celebrates 50 years of manufacturing in 2012. Now we weren't going to make something that wasn't extremely special for such an auspicious occasion.



Five One watt Class A Hand wired combos and five heads will be released at intervals throughout the year. These are extremely limited edition commemorative amps. Each model was designed to reflect the Marshall sound of the decade it represents which in my opinion they do. They were not designed to compete with flagship heads and will not be available after 2012.



Although the 1w series was only released yesterday, we can see already that dealer inquiries are for all five combos and/or all five heads. I have no doubt that the people who buy these amps will either be valve afficionados or collectors. They are without doubt an indulgence! If you need a working versatile amp for gigging you need to look at something like JVM.



The 1 watt collection does not have a peer to compare to-these are dream amps for valve nuts and they're not cheap! But they're not as expensive as some of you seem to think. There's a lot of speculation considering no pricing has been released! USD pricing are for the US market- not Europe.



There will be other product releases this year- this is just the extra special tribute. In the meantime I hope you all raise a glass to Jim this year. Leo Fender, Seth Lover, Les Paul and Jim Marshall are the people responsible for molding generations of tone and Jim is the only one still with us. He is very proud of these amps and so am I !

Squidgy Black

Marshall Ireland wrote: »

They're not- I don't know where that came from! As mentioned earlier we haven't released any pricing yet. They're not cheap but certainly nowhere near the price of a flagship head!

The word from the grapevine from a big US dealer was told by Marshall to be looking at around 700 dollars street. That's where I was getting my price from. If they're in and around the 300 euro range I'd definitely pick one up, it'd be great for the studio.

Marshall Ireland

stetyrrell wrote: »

The word from the grapevine from a big US dealer was told by Marshall to be looking at around 700 dollars street. That's where I was getting my price from. If they're in and around the 300 euro range I'd definitely pick one up, it'd be great for the studio.

perfect for studio work!

MilanPan!c

Most attractive thing I've seen, aesthetically at least, is that crazy blue Vox. That's gorgeous. Be nice to hollow one out and stick a nice amp in it.

Elysian

stetyrrell wrote: »

The word from the grapevine from a big US dealer was told by Marshall to be looking at around 700 dollars street. That's where I was getting my price from. If they're in and around the 300 euro range I'd definitely pick one up, it'd be great for the studio.

Andertons have some prices up, £479 for the JTM1 and £519 for the JMP1. As much as the 1 watt JCM800 interests me, if its around the same price as the JTM1 and JMP1 I'd rather get a full on second hand JCM 800.

The_g-man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZxzJFTM9og

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9lteoMsP1g

firefly08

I don't think it actually tunes the guitar though - it just corrects the frequency coming out of the pickup, is that right?

Interesting...but I wonder if the intonation feature would interfere subtly with string bending.

The_g-man

They go in to more detail in the second clip, mechanically it's completely out of tune, little processing card in the back of the guitar sends out an in tune sound, and you can pick lots of different tunings as well.

It was mostly that it can do that very quickly, and in a guitar that should be under $500. From the videos the players seem ok to move from chords to string bending solos with no major hiccups. I would definitely want to hear it up close for myself before buying but it at least looks and sounds interesting for now.

firefly08

Ah yeah just watched another one and the guy says if you bend close to a note it adjusts to that note...definitely not for me. I'd love to see someone playing one with a slide

Still though useful for some things.

Squidgy Black

It's a pitch correction software, like Auto-Tune used on vocals (same manufacturer).

From the demo's, and going by the vocal version, it's still got some glitches, where the tone sounds a bit sterile and fake. It's a great idea, but it still needs some work.

dfkorg

stetyrrell wrote: »

The word from the grapevine from a big US dealer was told by Marshall to be looking at around 700 dollars street. That's where I was getting my price from. If they're in and around the 300 euro range I'd definitely pick one up, it'd be great for the studio.

Yeah €300 for a Class A British made valve amp would be pretty great, but realistically they can't be made for that price. Marshall is always well cheaper in Ireland than it is in the US. Vox's new Class A AC4 is going to be over €350 and that's made in Vietnam I think

MilanPan!c

The_g-man wrote: »

They go in to more detail in the second clip, mechanically it's completely out of tune, little processing card in the back of the guitar sends out an in tune sound, and you can pick lots of different tunings as well.

It was mostly that it can do that very quickly, and in a guitar that should be under $500. From the videos the players seem ok to move from chords to string bending solos with no major hiccups. I would definitely want to hear it up close for myself before buying but it at least looks and sounds interesting for now.

To me that's completely amazing.

Not perfect tone and a bit glitchy, but give it a few version iterations and it'll be the absolute best ever writing tool. Not great for recording, but if you're using a lot of fx it could be a cool live guitar as well.

I'd def try one in 14 months.

firefly08

Yeah €300 for a Class A British made valve amp would be pretty great, but realistically they can't be made for that price. Marshall is always well cheaper in Ireland than it is in the US. Vox's new Class A AC4 is going to be over €350 and that's made in Vietnam I think

Not quite true - you can buy the Class 5 in the US for $350 (head) or $400 (combo). This is quite a bit lower than the Ireland or UK price. It's a Class A amp that Marshall says is made in the UK.

Incidentally, the new amps are not actually Class A, but I don't think that really matters. What puts me off is that Marshall themselves have admitted that the reason for the high price is simply that they're a limited edition. Since that's something that puts the price up without adding any value, I think I'll pass.

MilanPan!c

firefly08 wrote: »

Not quite true - you can buy the Class 5 in the US for $350 (head) or $400 (combo). This is quite a bit lower than the Ireland or UK price. It's a Class A amp that Marshall says is made in the UK.

Incidentally, the new amps are not actually Class A, but I don't think that really matters. What puts me off is that Marshall themselves have admitted that the reason for the high price is simply that they're a limited edition. Since that's something that puts the price up without adding any value, I think I'll pass.

My two cent:

I hate almost all Marshall amps and dread playing them. Only will when I have no other options.

That being said, SOME Marshall amps do hold their value quite well. A limited edition Marshall amp, if people like them,will hold it's value better than a bog standard Marshall amp. That means it's extra cost is actually more of a future-proofing of your investment than a waste.

Potentially.

Still I'd never own another Marshall amp.

firefly08

Fair enough...I'd be the opposite in that I love Marshalls and would choose them ahead of literally anything else I've ever heard. But I'd be reluctant to buy one just for the sake of it holding it's value or even appreciating a little. Coz if I like it, then I'd never want to sell it, and I'd almost certainly like it. :eek:

I just want to know that my money has gone into making the best amp that can be made for that money.[1] If Marshall has said "Yeah we're going to charge $700 but that's because they cost us $600 to make" then I'd consider it.

[1] well you know what I mean by "best"

Marshall Ireland

firefly08 wrote: »

Not quite true - you can buy the Class 5 in the US for $350 (head) or $400 (combo). This is quite a bit lower than the Ireland or UK price. It's a Class A amp that Marshall says is made in the UK.

Incidentally, the new amps are not actually Class A, but I don't think that really matters. What puts me off is that Marshall themselves have admitted that the reason for the high price is simply that they're a limited edition. Since that's something that puts the price up without adding any value, I think I'll pass.

They most certainly are Class A!

Marshall Ireland

firefly08 wrote: »

Fair enough...I'd be the opposite in that I love Marshalls and would choose them ahead of literally anything else I've ever heard. But I'd be reluctant to buy one just for the sake of it holding it's value or even appreciating a little. Coz if I like it, then I'd never want to sell it, and I'd almost certainly like it. :eek:

I just want to know that my money has gone into making the best amp that can be made for that money.[1] If Marshall has said "Yeah we're going to charge $700 but that's because they cost us $600 to make" then I'd consider it.

[1] well you know what I mean by "best"

Firefly the pricing will be released today. And trust me if you buy one it's true- you'll never want to sell it!

firefly08

Marshall Ireland:

I've heard each model and you seriously would not believe how loud 1w Class A is

Originally Posted by stetyrrell
Fair enough if they're class A

Marshall Ireland:

They're not- I don't know where that came from!

Sorry when you said that I took that to mean that you were going back on your original statement about them being class A. Maybe you were referring to something else in stetyrrell's post...my mistake. I don't even know the significance of it anyway tbh...I think they sound great and my only gripe was the price. I will watch for that...I haven't seen any changes yet on the sites mentioned so far.

Paolo_M

Lads, the Class A bit largely irrelevant.
Class of operation makes very little tonal difference at all, that's a myth.

The important question is whether it's single ended and/or whether it's cathode biased.
To my ears the JCM800 model does snarl like it's big brother, so I'm gonna guess it's a push pull architecture using one or two 12AU7.

Marshall Ireland maybe you can confirm?

The_g-man

The_g-man

The_g-man

Squidgy Black

Speaking of Blackstar, I was disappointed they didn't release any new amps, they're one of the best up and coming amp companies around.

Grolschevik

stetyrrell wrote: »

Speaking of Blackstar, I was disappointed they didn't release any new amps, they're one of the best up and coming amp companies around.

They do everything from one watt mini combos up to three-channel 200watt stacks, and have amp ranges at various price points. And a range of pedals. I'd love to see what new stuff they could come up with....

rcaz

So many things I want...

CianRyan

stetyrrell wrote: »

Speaking of Blackstar, I was disappointed they didn't release any new amps, they're one of the best up and coming amp companies around.

In the past I'd have agreed but the more I try their stuff, the more I say, "Meh ".

Miklos

I am definitely getting one of those Fender Excelsior amps.