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Best commute towns near Limerick?

  • 19-01-2012 5:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭


    Hi,

    There's a possibility we might be moving to Limerick for work soon but where is the best place to live in Limerick (excluding the city) or what places are the commute towns?

    We dont want hustle and bustle or any trouble near us. A nice house in a nice town is preferable.

    Any tips and advice appreciated.
    Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,883 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Castleconnell is a nice spot!
    Also has a train service to Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 galteeview


    Murroe is a nice possibility!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    +1 for Castleconnell - it's a lovely little village (with the best Chinese around :) )

    Bunratty is also nice (not in Limerick per se, but definitely close enough to commute).

    O'Briens bridge is nice too, again, I think that's Clare.

    But I suppose it depends where in Limerick you'll be working...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Killaloe
    Adare
    Bruff
    Castleconnell
    Newport
    Thre's loads of them....have a look at some houses on Daft.ie, myhome.ie (or wherever). If you find something you like ask again about the specific town or village and see what sort of replies are posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Sixmilebridge over the border in Co Clare is a nice spot. It's less than 20 minutes drive to Limerick City Centre, 20 minutes to Ennis, 15 minutes to the airport and 10 minutes to Shannon Town. It has all the amenities, 2 restaurants, 6 pubs, a library, church and a GAA club amongst others things.

    Oh, and I forgot to mention the railway station, easy access to Limerick, Ennis and Galway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭Villa05


    galteeview wrote: »
    Murroe is a nice possibility!

    For whom, regeneration and over-development has destroyed the area. It was a beautiful village but as ever Gov schemes have destroyed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,572 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    +1 for Castleconnell. I'm here for nearly 6 years now.

    - bus/train to Limerick (if you aren't driving)
    - good access to Limerick (if you are driving)
    - 1h45m to the Red Cow in Dublin (if that's important to you)
    - Easy access to Shannon airport (just a couple of miles from bypass)
    - Nice, picturesque laid back village with good supermarket, good takeaways and nice pubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭The Bull O'Shea


    Broadford in Clare is good too. 10 mins to corbally and close to both Shannon and ennis. Good fresh air out there

    Castleconnell is great too and has lots of amenities


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    Bubs99 wrote: »
    Hi,

    There's a possibility we might be moving to Limerick for work soon but where is the best place to live in Limerick (excluding the city) or what places are the commute towns?

    We dont want hustle and bustle or any trouble near us. A nice house in a nice town is preferable.

    Any tips and advice appreciated.
    Thank you.

    read this:

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local/murroe_is_like_a_mini_new_york_says_ul_lecturer_1_3310154

    Murroe, according to Prof. Stephen Kinsella, Economics Lecturer in UL.

    alhough this is the same guy that when i was at a business conference in UL he suggested a LUAS type effort around the anacotty/castletroy area. gave me a giggle anyway! murroe/manhattan was an even worse comparison, but it's a nice village anyway, broadband infrastructure is shíte though! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    xsiborg wrote: »
    read this:

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local/murroe_is_like_a_mini_new_york_says_ul_lecturer_1_3310154

    Murroe, according to Prof. Stephen Kinsella, Economics Lecturer in UL.

    alhough this is the same guy that when i was at a business conference in UL he suggested a LUAS type effort around the anacotty/castletroy area. gave me a giggle anyway! murroe/manhattan was an even worse comparison, but it's a nice village anyway, broadband infrastructure is shíte though! :(

    I genuinely think you're missing Kinsella's point. he's talking about the dynamics behind Murroe etc, why it functions the way it does, etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭fl4pj4ck


    Sixmilebridge over the border in Co Clare is a nice spot. It's less than 20 minutes drive to Limerick City Centre, 20 minutes to Ennis, 15 minutes to the airport and 10 minutes to Shannon Town. It has all the amenities, 2 restaurants, 6 pubs, a library, church and a GAA club amongst others things.

    with one bus in the morning and one in the evening if you don't have a car you're screwed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    I genuinely think you're missing Kinsella's point. he's talking about the dynamics behind Murroe etc, why it functions the way it does, etc.

    no no, its not that i missed his point amazo, from talking to the guy i know his enthusiasm and his ideals to make the comparison may have come across as easily misinterpreted, i understand he meant the community dynamics but it just struck me as facetious at least for a learned economist to try and compare the dynamics of a metropolitan area like manhattan to a sleepy village in the mid-west of ireland.

    murroe is an attractive prospect to those who want to get away from "the rat race", as it is expanding accomodation wise at least, but the infrastructure hasnt caught up with the housing boom, same as newport- all houses, but no proper economic infrastructure in place to meet the future demands of the future generations that will be living there.

    castletroy at least is closer to the city without being TOO involved with the city, and it has the infrastructure and amenities to accomodate the people living there now, as well as future possible expansion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    xsiborg wrote: »
    no no, its not that i missed his point amazo, from talking to the guy i know his enthusiasm and his ideals to make the comparison may have come across as easily misinterpreted, i understand he meant the community dynamics but it just struck me as facetious at least for a learned economist to try and compare the dynamics of a metropolitan area like manhattan to a sleepy village in the mid-west of ireland.


    I don't think it's that facetious, it's about communities, whether it's a successful city one or a successful village one. Seemingly on average most people only ever know 150 people well at any one time. All through life we move within little communities and from little community to little community. Why some communities are successful and others aren't is an interesting topic imo, are there underlying reasons for each state etc. That's what Kinsella is driving towards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    Broadford in Clare is good too. 10 mins to corbally and close to both Shannon and ennis. Good fresh air out there

    Castleconnell is great too and has lots of amenities

    Love Broadford, I bought a house there - but there is no public transport, and next to no amenities. But if you do have a car, and like space, fresh air and stunning views, and can keep yourself entertained - then its idyllic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭A Country Voice


    murroe is an attractive prospect to those who want to get away from "the rat race", as it is expanding accomodation wise at least, but the infrastructure hasnt caught up with the housing boom, same as newport- all houses, but no proper economic infrastructure in place to meet the future demands of the future generations that will be living there.

    I think the infrastructure isn't too bad actually. Just wondering what infrastructure you think is missing? I don't want to turn this into a silly, your place v my place kinda thing now. The roads are reasonably ok, no roads anywhere are in very good nick these days reallly, sewerage capacity is fine, public lighting and signage is all up to date, 3 shops including a filling station in the village, 2 pubs in the village, 2 takeaways, hair salons, creches, post office, church, gaa club, soccer club, parish hall, nice pitch and putt course, glenstal is a lovely amenity to have at the village doorstep for walks, cycles etc, all 10 mins from the motorway. Sounds alright to me. We don't have a cinema or a light rail system :D So no film buffs or train spotters need apply

    ACV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭fleabag


    Hospital is a good spot too - about half hour's drive away along good roads. I find it nice and peaceful, really friendly locals, few pubs, 2 good grocers, chipper, butchers, hardware, bakers etc. There's a bus that will get you in Limerick for about 8.40 in the morning and one out again around 5.30 in the evening. Countryside around is lovely too and it's really handy for Tipp., Charleville and Mitchelstown as well.

    The only downside is telling people you live in Hospital - they tend to take a step backwards:)


    Good luck wherever you land - I love Limerick (county and city)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Some12


    Try Enniskillen !

    No house levy soon to be property tax...
    No Universal social charge...
    No Health insurance levy...
    No increase to road tax
    No new water charges
    No DIRT taking what little interest savings get...
    No VAT pushed up to 23%...
    No Import duty errrrr... first time registration fee
    No turn around on road tax for low emission cars...
    No etc... etc... etc...

    With all money you'd save living there, the extra commute may be worth it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭RadioClash


    Sixmilebridge over the border in Co Clare is a nice spot. It's less than 20 minutes drive to Limerick City Centre, 20 minutes to Ennis, 15 minutes to the airport and 10 minutes to Shannon Town. It has all the amenities, 2 restaurants, 6 pubs, a library, church and a GAA club amongst others things.

    +1, lovely little spot. Was there for their Winter music festival last weekend. Nice pubs, a few nice eateries,and close to town too. Kind of has a Ballykissangel feel to it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    murroe is an attractive prospect to those who want to get away from "the rat race", as it is expanding accomodation wise at least, but the infrastructure hasnt caught up with the housing boom, same as newport- all houses, but no proper economic infrastructure in place to meet the future demands of the future generations that will be living there.

    I think the infrastructure isn't too bad actually. Just wondering what infrastructure you think is missing? I don't want to turn this into a silly, your place v my place kinda thing now. The roads are reasonably ok, no roads anywhere are in very good nick these days reallly, sewerage capacity is fine, public lighting and signage is all up to date, 3 shops including a filling station in the village, 2 pubs in the village, 2 takeaways, hair salons, creches, post office, church, gaa club, soccer club, parish hall, nice pitch and putt course, glenstal is a lovely amenity to have at the village doorstep for walks, cycles etc, all 10 mins from the motorway. Sounds alright to me. We don't have a cinema or a light rail system :D So no film buffs or train spotters need apply

    ACV

    no absolutely agree with you there, but from the rest of the things you mention in your post i can see already we'd have different points of view because myself im not really the outdoorsy type, whereas one thing that would be an absolute must for me is the availability of access to decent broadband. while all the amenities you mention are lovely, and ideally myself i would love to live out the country, but i just wouldn't be able to work, as i work a lot from home and depend on broadband.

    admittedly the last time i was out in murroe was about two years ago on a job, just before ICE broadband went títs-up and were taken over by ripplecom (frying pan/fire situation), but i see from www.murroe.net that now www.munsterbroadband.ie is available, again though only a wireless effort (weather dependent access!).

    incidentally, those mary from murroe pictures look like they were uploaded on a 56k dial-up connection! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 Limerickhurler


    Have a look at Adare its a beautiful little town with thatched cottages, plenty of shops, pubs and restaurants and two golf courses. Theres always a great buzz around the place and lovely walks along the river and the Manor grounds and Limerick is only a stones throw away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭boomerang


    Eircom broadband now available in Murroe. :)

    Things have got a bit raucous after the Valley Inn closes on a weekend - wasn't always like that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Mr E wrote: »
    +1 for Castleconnell. I'm here for nearly 6 years now.

    - bus/train to Limerick (if you aren't driving)
    - good access to Limerick (if you are driving)
    - 1h45m to the Red Cow in Dublin (if that's important to you)
    - Easy access to Shannon airport (just a couple of miles from bypass)
    - Nice, picturesque laid back village with good supermarket, good takeaways and nice pubs.

    Where is nice in Castleconnel?I don't know it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭A Country Voice


    xsiborg wrote: »
    no absolutely agree with you there, but from the rest of the things you mention in your post i can see already we'd have different points of view because myself im not really the outdoorsy type, whereas one thing that would be an absolute must for me is the availability of access to decent broadband. while all the amenities you mention are lovely, and ideally myself i would love to live out the country, but i just wouldn't be able to work, as i work a lot from home and depend on broadband.

    admittedly the last time i was out in murroe was about two years ago on a job, just before ICE broadband went títs-up and were taken over by ripplecom (frying pan/fire situation), but i see from www.murroe.net that now www.munsterbroadband.ie is available, again though only a wireless effort (weather dependent access!).

    incidentally, those mary from murroe pictures look like they were uploaded on a 56k dial-up connection! :p

    Oh god I remember those Ice Broadband days. I get a shiver up my spine just thinking about it. Yeah, it was great when Munster Broadband arrived. Great customer service, and very rarely needed which is even better of course. With Voadafone at Home now which, (suprisingly when you look at the voadafone problems on their threads here), the service has been absolutely perfect since day one. Just did a speed test and it came back download 2.57 and upload 0.31. Not great but a lot better than Ice used to be :D
    I'm sure the more you spend the more bandwith you'd get though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    Oh god I remember those Ice Broadband days. I get a shiver up my spine just thinking about it. Yeah, it was great when Munster Broadband arrived. Great customer service, and very rarely needed which is even better of course. With Voadafone at Home now which, (suprisingly when you look at the voadafone problems on their threads here), the service has been absolutely perfect since day one. Just did a speed test and it came back download 2.57 and upload 0.31. Not great but a lot better than Ice used to be :D
    I'm sure the more you spend the more bandwith you'd get though.

    off-topic slightly but that sounds like you're getting great speeds on the 3MB package, i just wonder were you aware that for an extra €4 a month you could have their 7MB package?

    sounds like the one thing that puts me off living rurally might just be solved in murroe at least! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Adare would be my choice most certainly :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭nathan184


    Two places I'm looking for info about:
    • Ballyneety
    • Kilfinny (turn left at Adare)

    Any opinions would be welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TONY DAY


    Castletroy on the outskirts of the city is ideal. Regular Euro bus into town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    xsiborg wrote: »
    off-topic slightly but that sounds like you're getting great speeds on the 3MB package, i just wonder were you aware that for an extra €4 a month you could have their 7MB package?

    sounds like the one thing that puts me off living rurally might just be solved in murroe at least! ;)

    [Off topic]
    I'm on the Vodafone at home 7Mb package in Murroe too and last speed test was 5.67Mbps down and .3Mbps up ping was 54ms not too bad all things considered.[/Off topic]


    I think Murroe is a great little village. Yes there are some knackers around but it is not as bad as people would lead you to beleive. Most villages/towns around the county suffer from the same problems. Not too far from town either.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭source


    Adare is a traffic nightmare!

    If you don't get out of the city at just the right time you can be stuck in huge tailbacks.

    And if there's anything on in the manor, just forget about heading out there at all. Don't get me wrong it's a beautiful place but I for one couldn't be dealing with the traffic.

    Edit: I feel I should probably add something positive to this post as the above is very negative.

    Good spots, Cratloe great little village with forest park, playground, national school and pub and shops. Only 10 from town and airport by N18 dual carriageway.

    Ballina/Kilaloe, together they make up a pretty decent town. 15 to 20 mins by motorway (M7) to city. Restaurants and takeaways (Indian Chinese chippers) bars, petrol stations, it's on the mouth of lough derg, absolutely beautiful. There can be some problems with traffic as there is only one narrow bridge connecting the two and it is a big day trip spot when the weather is good. But it usually flows pretty well.

    Nenagh, big town, pretty much every amenity you could think of. Administrative centre for north Tipperary, it has banks, hospital, shopping, restaurants and bars, cinema, everything you could want really. Half hour from city by M7.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TONY DAY


    Why would someone not like to live near the city? The countryside for me is for Sunday drives and somewhere to live when i'm over 60 years of age!! Country Villages and small towns depress me. Not enough to do and far too many local noseys and curtain twitchers.
    You can't beat life in a big or medium sized city (i.e Limerick).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    TONY DAY wrote: »
    Why would someone not like to live near the city? The countryside for me is for Sunday drives and somewhere to live when i'm over 60 years of age!! Country Villages and small towns depress me. Not enough to do and far too many local noseys and curtain twitchers.
    You can't beat life in a big or medium sized city (i.e Limerick).

    Because not everyone shares that view. I grew up in the city but would not like to live there again. Too used to the peace and quiet of the country. Different strokes for different folks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    OP, my vote goes to Castleconnell, great spot, would be a fine place to live
    source wrote: »
    Ballina/Kilaloe, together they make up a pretty decent town.There can be some problems with traffic as there is only one narrow bridge connecting the two and it is a big day trip spot when the weather is good. But it usually flows pretty well.

    Plans are under way to get the new bridge sorted one km south of the current bridge. Then the old bridge will be pedestranized.

    It won't start for another two years.

    They've been talking about it for years but Tipp North has the junior minister for transport now and he seems to be pulling in money for Tipperary projects.
    That's what ministers do best, get the money for projects in their area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭source


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    OP, my vote goes to Castleconnell, great spot, would be a fine place to live



    Plans are under way to get the new bridge sorted one km south of the current bridge. Then the old bridge will be pedestranized.

    It won't start for another two years.

    They've been talking about it for years but Tipp North has the junior minister for transport now and he seems to be pulling in money for Tipperary projects.
    That's what ministers do best, get the money for projects in their area

    I won't hold my breath. My parents used to live out there and will be moving back there shortly. Been hearing about this bridge for around 5/6 years now and it's always almost about to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Crea


    xsiborg wrote: »
    read this:

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local/murroe_is_like_a_mini_new_york_says_ul_lecturer_1_3310154

    Murroe, according to Prof. Stephen Kinsella, Economics Lecturer in UL.

    alhough this is the same guy that when i was at a business conference in UL he suggested a LUAS type effort around the anacotty/castletroy area. gave me a giggle anyway! murroe/manhattan was an even worse comparison, but it's a nice village anyway, broadband infrastructure is shíte though! :(

    You'd never guess Stephen Kinsella lives in Murroe would you:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Crea wrote: »
    You'd never guess Stephen Kinsella lives in Murroe would you:p

    You wouldn't have to it states it in the article

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭clappyhappy


    nathan184 wrote: »
    Two places I'm looking for info about:
    • Ballyneety
    • Kilfinny (turn left at Adare)
    Any opinions would be welcome.

    Hi Kilfinny is a very rural village, church, school there. There is Nevilles pub about 3 mins away. Very close to Adare, Croagh & Ballingarry, biggest drawback is the traffic in Adare. If you will be working regular office hours you will get caught up,especially bank holiday weekends, Fridays ect. But a lovely area. City is about 20 mins away, no traffic (Adare!!!)


    Ballyneety is very close to Limerick city, grand enough area, as said your close to city so all amenities are only 10/15 mins away.

    Personally I would choose Kilfinny Croagh area, but up to yourself, best of luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭nathan184


    Thanks Clappy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭L.T.P.


    Bubs99 wrote: »
    Hi,

    There's a possibility we might be moving to Limerick for work soon but where is the best place to live in Limerick (excluding the city) or what places are the commute towns?

    We dont want hustle and bustle or any trouble near us. A nice house in a nice town is preferable.

    Any tips and advice appreciated.
    Thank you.

    Have a look at Parteen. Technically it is in Co.Clare but it is only 3 miles from Limerick City Centre. You could do worse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TONY DAY


    If you don't mind me asking Bubs 99 why don't you want to actually live in the city or in one of the suburbs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 neverwasser


    nathan184 wrote: »
    Two places I'm looking for info about:
    • Ballyneety
    • Kilfinny (turn left at Adare)
    Any opinions would be welcome.

    I live just beyond Ballyneety myself and in my opinion it is a great place to live, you could be at the Kilmallock roundabout in Limerick in less than ten minutes, in castletroy in 12 minutes and in Raheen in 15 minutes, primary schools in the area are good, only one pub in the village and it is not bad at all if you just want a few pints, it also has a shop/petrol station and the local garda station which can be handy as well as Kebab shop which isn't the worst.

    Its a pity the golf club is closed as the driving range was a great way to waste an hour wacking balls.

    It also has the usual gaa clubs and weight watcher club on Thursday.

    If your looking for a quiet life then I would recomend it, if your looking for a small town setting then the village may be a bit on the small side


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭bridget84


    TONY DAY wrote: »
    Why would someone not like to live near the city? The countryside for me is for Sunday drives and somewhere to live when i'm over 60 years of age!! Country Villages and small towns depress me. Not enough to do and far too many local noseys and curtain twitchers.
    You can't beat life in a big or medium sized city (i.e Limerick).

    You're joking aren't you? Limerick would be considered a medium/small sized "town" in most countries and a dreary one at that. Something needs to be done about Limerick and fast. It's turning into a ghost town, you'd certainly get alot more life and vibrancy in the commuter villages these days and that's saying something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭bodonnell


    Caherconlish - about 15 to 20 min drive into city, quiet place (mostly) a few pubs & couple of shops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭howwedoin


    bodonnell wrote: »
    Caherconlish - about 15 to 20 min drive into city, quiet place (mostly) a few pubs & couple of shops

    Whatever you do, don't move there. Some scum in that place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    howwedoin wrote: »
    Whatever you do, don't move there. Some scum in that place.

    Predictable response. There are scum everywhere these days. Murroe, Newport, etc have their fair share of them too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TONY DAY


    Well said Bazz. The levels of snobbery around in Ireland these days is astounding. And of course the real "scum" are the people in power and the bakers who have bled us dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TONY DAY


    Ha ha meant to say "Bankers" not "Bakers"!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    TONY DAY wrote: »
    Ha ha meant to say "Bankers" not "Bakers"!!!!

    d'ough... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TONY DAY


    Well the bakers do have a lot of "dough"!!!! So maybe they are to blame for the mess we are in as well !!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    OP, my vote goes to Castleconnell, great spot, would be a fine place to live



    I've asked this already,but where are generally the good areas to live in Castleconnell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭thegills


    Ballina Killaloe for me. Traffic not a problem since traffic lights installed. Broadband not a problem. On the lake. Surrounded by mountains. 20min from Limerick. 10min from motorway. Loads of money spent on canals, marina recently.


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