Will You Just Pay Your Taxes

starbelgrade

For fuck sake.


Apologies. Just sick of the multiple "will you pay this tax or that tax?" threads.


Mods - please delete at will.

Sindri

No

My name is URL

http://okayface.com/okay-face.jpg

Hank_Jones

You and what army?

Praetorian Saighdiuir

I pay the Homer Tax!!!

Pherekydes

There should be attacks on stupid threads.

AngryBollix

hows your bees wax

AudreyHepburn

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

SafeSurfer

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

Yawn

Sindri

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

Where and when will I receive this cheque?

kerash

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

oh hai i is bondholder... *holds out hand*

Casillas

Sure sensible fiscal responsibility should be negated by these stealth taxes. We'll pay when sense returns to government.

Pherekydes

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

/Pinches self. Feels nothing. Reality check carried out: No fault found. Shrugs

LighterGuy

starbelgrade wrote: »

For fuck sake.


Apologies. Just sick of the multiple "will you pay this tax or that tax?" threads.


Mods - please delete at will.

You are missing the point.
When does something become too much? .... Are we supposed to smile when the government wants to tax us more? .. when is enough, enough?

The King of Moo

They should introduce a troll tax, with trolls and spammers having to pay per megabyte for every bit of bandwidth they waste with inflammatory nonsense and the like.

The "is this dress too sexy for my sister" guy alone could pay for a new hospital.

Oranage2

I'm a PAYE worker so I have too

My name is URL

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

Ehh, that is the reality. Why do you think we pay taxes in the first place?

For Forks Sake

benwavner wrote: »

I pay the Homer Tax!!!

That's the Home Owner Tax.

SeaFields

For Forks Sake wrote: »

That's the Home Owner Tax.

and he's yet to pay it :pac:

Pin_Cushion

For Forks Sake wrote: »

That's the Home Owner Tax.

I think he meant the homo tax.

Pherekydes

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

They seem to find the money from thin air to pay their "special" advisors. Aren't they getting paid enough to do the job they were elected to do?

starbelgrade

LighterGuy wrote: »

You are missing the point.
When does something become too much? .... Are we supposed to smile when the government wants to tax us more? .. when is enough, enough?

I don't think we've paid enough tax for years & I don't think we've got good value for money for the taxes we have paid.

What this government & the ones that follow them need to do is to strike a better balance between what is paid in & what we get back for it.

LighterGuy

So lets see:

You work, you pay tax.
You buy something, you pay VAT tax
You own your own home, you now pay a tax.
You use water, you pay a charge tax (nothing new about this one. Many places already paying water charges, but its being brought in every whereelse)
You want your garbage to be taken away, you pay a charge tax
You own a tv, you pay a tax (now pc to be included)
You own a car, you gotta pay tax.
you wanna use a certain road, you gotta pay the toll.
... i have to be forgetting a few aswell.

When is enough, enough?

starbelgrade

LighterGuy wrote: »

So lets see:

You work, you pay tax.
You buy something, you pay VAT tax
You own your own home, you now pay a tax.
You use water, you pay a charge tax (nothing new about this one. Many places already paying water charges, but its being brought in every whereelse)
You want your garbage to be taken away, you pay a charge tax
You own a tv, you pay a tax (now pc to be included)
You own a car, you gotta pay tax.
you wanna use a certain road, you gotta pay the toll. ... i have to be forgetting a few aswell.

When is enough, enough?

When all the shit that costs money is paid for.

Sindri

starbelgrade wrote: »

I don't think we've paid enough tax for years & I don't think we've got good value for money for the taxes we have paid.

What this government & the ones that follow them is to strike a better balance between what is paid in & what we get back for it.

We don't spend our money efficiently. We don't plan for the long-term and neither do we expect this to happen.

So we're pretty much fucked.

starbelgrade

Sindri wrote: »

We don't spend our money efficiently. We don't plan for the long-term and neither do we expect this to happen.

So we're pretty much fucked.

I agree with the first part, but I don't agree that we're fucked.

Liam Byrne

starbelgrade wrote: »

LighterGuy wrote: »

So lets see:

You work, you pay tax.
You buy something, you pay VAT tax
You own your own home, you now pay a tax.
You use water, you pay a charge tax (nothing new about this one. Many places already paying water charges, but its being brought in every whereelse)
You want your garbage to be taken away, you pay a charge tax
You own a tv, you pay a tax (now pc to be included)
You own a car, you gotta pay tax.
you wanna use a certain road, you gotta pay the toll. ... i have to be forgetting a few aswell.

When is enough, enough?

When all the s[SIZE="2"]hi[/SIZE]t that costs money is paid for.

That's the problem.

It should be "when all the **** that's worth the money is paid for".

They manufacture enough to pay fortunes to undeserving bondholders, incompetent auditors, failed developers, failed bankers and failed past politicians.

Let that be the manufactured stuff and come back to us to pay for the rest.

Johro

starbelgrade wrote: »

For fuck sake.


Apologies. Just sick of the multiple "will you pay this tax or that tax?" threads.


Mods - please delete at will.

I gotta say I am reluctant to say the least to pay some of these taxes simply because they were dreamt up by this and other governments to make the people pay for a massive deficit that was caused by the greed and gambling habits of the big financial institutions. In short.
I also think these financial institutions have a f#ckin cheek to then loan these governments bailout money at interest. People have gotten so used to the banks running the world that the immorality of it all seems to pass them by, and they blame the private sector or the public sector or the people queueing for the dole or the unions. And the government and especially the media encourage it. Because while people are blaming each other, big business is still raking it in.

AudreyHepburn

Johro wrote: »

I gotta say I am reluctant to say the least to pay some of these taxes simply because they were dreamt up by this and other governments to make the people pay for a massive deficit that was caused by the greed and gambling habits of the big financial institutions. In short.
I also think these financial institutions have a f#ckin cheek to then loan these governments bailout money at interest. People have gotten so used to the banks running the world that the immorality of it all seems to pass them by, and they blame the private sector or the public sector or the people queueing for the dole or the unions. And the government and especially the media encourage it. Because while people are blaming each other, big business is still raking it in.

Funny how no-one complained when the banks were offering ordinary Joe Soap huge loans and mortgages and so forth.

Different strokes for different folks indeed.

Johro

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Funny how no-one complained when the banks were offering ordinary Joe Soap huge loans and mortgages and so forth.

Different strokes for different folks indeed.

Wtf? That's just another example of their lack of responsibility. Which we are now paying for.

The Snipe

Hello undercover tax collector!

gurramok

starbelgrade wrote: »

Apologies. Just sick of the multiple "will you pay this tax or that tax?" threads.
.

Read my lips, no new taxes!! See attachment!

AudreyHepburn

Johro wrote: »

Wtf? That's just another example of their lack of responsibility. Which we are now paying for.

Don't kid yourself. No-one was forced into accepting huge loans they'd never be able to pay off.

I'm not saying the banks are blameless but to portray the customers as poor innocent victims of corrupt institutions is naive.

ygolometsipe

Tax and politician pay should be index linked to GNP / GDP!

Sindri

starbelgrade wrote: »

I agree with the first part, but I don't agree that we're fucked.

Why not may I ask?

fedor.2.

starbelgrade wrote: »

When all the shit that costs money is paid for.

You're such a martyr

monara

gurramok wrote: »

Read my lips, no new taxes!! See attachment!

I agree with Enda Kenny. House tax is immoral and if you pay it, you will be committing a sin. So don't be a sinner. Be a Shinner and don't pay.:)

Johro

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Don't kid yourself. No-one was forced into accepting huge loans they'd never be able to pay off.

I'm not saying the banks are blameless but to portray the customers as poor innocent victims of corrupt institutions is naive.

People who borrowed beyond their means were just as irresponsible, I'll grant you that. But then, most people will accept money if you bombard them with unsolicited loan approvals and credit cards. It would indeed be naive to think those people were responsible for the mess we're all in. The banks made all that possible.

DoesNotCompute

The King of Moo wrote: »

The "is this dress too sexy for my sister" guy alone could pay for a new hospital.

PICS OR GTFO

The King of Moo

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

PICS OR GTFO

Him

Her

starbelgrade

Johro wrote: »

I gotta say I am reluctant to say the least to pay some of these taxes simply because they were dreamt up by this and other governments to make the people pay for a massive deficit that was caused by the greed and gambling habits of the big financial institutions. In short.
I also think these financial institutions have a f#ckin cheek to then loan these governments bailout money at interest. People have gotten so used to the banks running the world that the immorality of it all seems to pass them by, and they blame the private sector or the public sector or the people queueing for the dole or the unions. And the government and especially the media encourage it. Because while people are blaming each other, big business is still raking it in.

I don't disagree with any of that.

My point is though, that I'm weary of seeing threads where people are saying that they're not going to pay certain taxes because protesting against the likes of the household tax by refusing to pay it is a pointless form of protest against the least costly of all the recent tax hikes that in all probability will cost those who don't pay it more than it would if they simply paid it in the first place.

The likes of Sinn Fein should really be ashamed of themselves for encouraging this form of protest as ultimately it will achieve nothing but to hurt the people they claim to be fighting to protect.

Ray Palmer

I have no problem with pay for use taxes/charges.

People are incredibly wasteful and by introducing the charges they actually cut costs and waste.

What I find funny is how people blame the current government for all new charges when many have been planned for a long time and aren't really in the current governments control.

Work with a guy who is blaming the banks for him spending his savings on a house!!:eek: Is arguement is they casued the inflated prices thus making him have to spend his savings.

smash

starbelgrade wrote: »

Will You Just Pay Your Taxes

Ok fine... but I'm gonna need some lube and poppers first.

Dudess

I announce I won't, in a fit of indignation (no prob with others paying theirs though, but i deserve special treatment) on the internet... but I will.

stovelid

Or more to the point, stop viewing your taxes like some benevolent fucking contribution that should be distributed as you see fit. To wit: why are my taxes being spent on such and such a thing that doesn't immediately enrich or benefit me.

30Min

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I fail to understand why people expect everything to be given to them for free, while also expecting Enda & Co to magically make money appear out of thing air.

Real life's not like that folks, it's time for a reality check.

I know life is real. That's why I didn't saddle myself with a mortgage that was too big for me, buy a car, eat out every weekend, spend heaps on the credit card, go drinking every weekend, get taxis everywhere etc etc.

I lived in the real world !!!!

But I'm still being punished through tax hikes, service cuts, new charges, to clean up the mess I didn't create

Maybe Ill go live in the land of chocolate and see how that goes :P.

smash

30Min wrote: »

I know life is real. That's why I didn't saddle myself with a mortgage that was too big for me, buy a car, eat out every weekend, spend heaps on the credit card, go drinking every weekend, get taxis everywhere etc etc.

I'm surprised people like you with such insight haven't figured out how to predict the lotto numbers yet, you seem to have been able to predict everything else.

44leto

Yes I will, along with the silent majority, I just don't want the hassle.

Pherekydes

smash wrote: »

I'm surprised people like you with such insight haven't figured out how to predict the lotto numbers yet, you seem to have been able to predict everything else.

What did the poster predict? I'm intrigued.

smash

Pherekydes wrote: »

What did the poster predict? I'm intrigued.

I't like most posts in these threads where people 'saw it coming' and didn't get a mortgage or a car or bla bla... get over it, it's done, it happened!

Pherekydes

smash wrote: »

I't like most posts in these threads where people 'saw it coming' and didn't get a mortgage or a car or bla bla... get over it, it's done, it happened!

Well, I have a tiny mortgage, no Bulgarian apartment, no mobile home in Kilmuckridge, my car is ten years old and I haven't had any large, ostentatious parties. I didn't predict anything. I just don't live that way.