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Oldest Footballer to Win All Ireland

  • 17-01-2012 8:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭✭ gunner11
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    bit of a jimmy mcgee question here, but does anyone know who was the oldest gaelic football player to win an all-ireland medal? its a work bet im trying to win.......best answer so far is Dinny Allen of Cork in 1989 final who was aged 37 at the time. Can anyone improve on that? its a toughie question.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭✭ thewildcat
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    it's a hard one alright i think Martin Furlong was around 37 or 38 when he would his 3rd medal in 1982 again Kerry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,243 lala88
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    thewildcat wrote: »
    it's a hard one alright i think Martin Furlong was around 37 or 38 when he would his 3rd medal in 1982 again Kerry.

    On Wikipedia it says he was born in 1946 so he would have been 35 in 82


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭✭ thewildcat
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    right fair enough you could be right, he did win a minor in 1964 so that would have left him 35 in 1982


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭ meath12
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    graham geraghty 2012 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭✭ gunner11
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    haha, i wont be running down to the bookies with the geraghty tip just yet :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭ padd b1975
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    George O Conner 1996?
    Edit: He is of course a hurler.


  • Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭ Hesh's Umpire
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    George O Conner 1996?
    Footballer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭ padd b1975
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    Footballer?
    Sorry too late with edit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭ padd b1975
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    Liam Austin 1991?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,115 Mod ✭✭✭✭ bruschi
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    Barney Roice from Wexford was, I think, 38 when he won his fourth All Ireland in 1918. Reason he above any of the other wexford players stick out is because he won 6 Leinster titles in a row, and 4 AI titles in a row, and didnt play in any of them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭✭ gunner11
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    Barney Royce sounds like a proper GAA legend if thats true!! he also leads the current list of oldest player with an all ireland medal if thats true. Got an email back from the museum in Croke Park HQ. Unfortunately they dont have any records there on who the oldest gaelic footballer is to win an all ireland medal :rolleyes: the search continues!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 mickmackey1
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    According to 'The GAA Book of Lists' by Eoghan Corry (p7) Larry Cribbin was 41 when he won with Kildare in the 1919 final. However the 1911 census :

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Balraheen/Richardstown/539814/

    suggests he was 39, which fits in with his obituary:

    http://www.kildare.ie/library/ehistory/2011/11/distinguished_footballer_passe.asp

    Either way, the Kildare defender-turned-goalkeeper would appear to have the strongest claim to this title.


  • Registered Users Posts: 583 68Murph68
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    Charlie Nelligan stuck around for quite a while, my guess is he'll be a goalie cause thats where old soldiers go before they die.

    Nope - retired in 1991 aged 34

    Won a minor and U21 All-Ireland in the same year in 75

    If Kerry win next year Tomas O Se would be 35 which would be fair going given the way the game has gone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 pmcnulty1
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    gunner11 wrote: »
    bit of a jimmy mcgee question here, but does anyone know who was the oldest gaelic football player to win an all-ireland medal? its a work bet im trying to win.......best answer so far is Dinny Allen of Cork in 1989 final who was aged 37 at the time. Can anyone improve on that? its a toughie question.

    Josie Munnelly (1916 - July 1996) won a Junior medal for Mayo in 1957 when he was 41 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭ elefant
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    According to 'The GAA Book of Lists' by Eoghan Corry (p7) Larry Cribbin was 41 when he won with Kildare in the 1919 final. However the 1911 census :

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Balraheen/Richardstown/539814/

    suggests he was 39, which fits in with his obituary:

    http://www.kildare.ie/library/ehistory/2011/11/distinguished_footballer_passe.asp

    Either way, the Kildare defender-turned-goalkeeper would appear to have the strongest claim to this title.

    Can't believe this didn't get more love at the time. Some detective work: census records!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭ Bonniedog
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    Surprised no-one has mentioned Stephen Cluxton in relation this.

    He was 35 last September which puts him on course to at least equal any player of modern era.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 Zendaya Young Vogue


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Surprised no-one has mentioned Stephen Cluxton in relation this.

    He was 35 last September which puts him on course to at least equal any player of modern era.

    This is from five years ago..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭ Stacksofwacks
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    I know that Jim Ware(RIP) from Waterford is the oldest hurler to win an All Ireland at 41 years old, in 1948. He as also the oldest All Ireland winning captain


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭ feargale
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    I believe the correct answer is Dan O'Keefe, native of Fermoy who was reputedly 40 when he won his last medal with Kerry,


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 pmcnulty1
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    I believe that Josie Munnelly, born in 1916, who won a senior All-Ireland medal for Mayo in 1936 and a Junior All-Ireland medal for Mayo in 1957 is the oldest GAA player to win an All-Ireland medal at the age of forty-one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭ big_drive
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    Very unlikely to get anyone in the future who will even be playing past 35, its getting younger and younger players retiring


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭ feargale
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    I know that Jim Ware(RIP) from Waterford is the oldest hurler to win an All Ireland at 41 years old, in 1948. He as also the oldest All Ireland winning captain

    No. Oldest captain maybe, but Kilkenny had a man of 43 in 1922. I can't remember his name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,724 ✭✭✭ nice_guy80


    big_drive wrote: »
    Very unlikely to get anyone in the future who will even be playing past 35, its getting younger and younger players retiring

    I'd say goalie is the only position you might get away with it

    what age was Shane Curran when he won a club title?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭ padd b1975
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    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    I'd say goalie is the only position you might get away with it

    what age was Shane Curran when he won a club title?

    Mental age was around seven I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,797 ✭✭✭✭ PARlance
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    big_drive wrote: »
    Very unlikely to get anyone in the future who will even be playing past 35, its getting younger and younger players retiring

    Andy Moran will be almost 36 when he wins it this year

    ;):)

    Or he could be 63 by the next time we win it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭ Sonny678
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    Peter McDermont won All Ireland in 1954 and he was 36. That Meath team is the oldest team to win Sam beating kerry, stopping one greatest kerry teams ever winning the three in a row.
    Most of the Meath players were well over 30.
    And also Meath had one of the youngest team ever to win Sam. The two youngest teams to ever win Sam were kerry in 1975 and Meath in 1996. Both won All-Irelands with 6 or 7 under 21 players. It wud have been like kerry winning the All Ireland last year with Clifford O Se and another 4 or 5 under 21 players. Most teams win Alll Irelands with players in the mid 20s late 20s , a group of players playing together over a 3 to 4 to 5 period. They win 2 to 3 provincial titles and then push for Sam.Its very unusual to win All Irelands with a pile of players actually eligible for the under 21 grade in that year. Its very unusual to win Sam with a pile of players well into their 30s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,724 ✭✭✭ nice_guy80


    Sonny678 wrote: »
    Peter McDermont won All Ireland in 1954 and he was 36. That Meath team is the oldest team to win Sam beating kerry, stopping one greatest kerry teams ever winning the three in a row.
    Most of the Meath players were well over 30.
    And also Meath had one of the youngest team ever to win Sam. The two youngest teams to ever win Sam were kerry in 1975 and Meath in 1996. Both won All-Irelands with 6 or 7 under 21 players. It wud have been like kerry winning the All Ireland last year with Clifford O Se and another 4 or 5 under 21 players. Most teams win Alll Irelands with players in the mid 20s late 20s , a group of players playing together over a 3 to 4 to 5 period. They win 2 to 3 provincial titles and then push for Sam.Its very unusual to win All Irelands with a pile of players actually eligible for the under 21 grade in that year. Its very unusual to win Sam with a pile of players well into their 30s.

    That's the reason why I don't think mayo will win it
    They didn't refresh their team soon enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,199 ✭✭✭✭ rossie1977
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    Donegal in 92 had a number of guys over 30
    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    I'd say goalie is the only position you might get away with it

    what age was Shane Curran when he won a club title?

    Few weeks short of his 42nd birthday


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭ feargale
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    Was Cork 1966 the youngest to win hurling? A number of them won the senior/u-21 double that year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭ Sonny678
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    feargale wrote:
    Was Cork 1966 the youngest to win hurling? A number of them won the senior/u-21 double that year.


    Thats true. Cork had under 21 players that won All Ireland in 1966. Thats the youngest team to ever win hurling All Ireland title. Very similar to football youngest teams. 1966 Cork hurling All Ireland winning team, 1975 kerry football All Ireland winning team and 1996 Meath All Ireland football winning team all came from nowhere to win liam and Sam.

    No one gave Cork a chance in early 1966. Tippeareys great team were the dominant team of the period winning 4 All Irelands in 5 years in early 60s. Kerry also were seen as unlikely winners in 1975 in football . Cork had won the All-Ireland brillantly two years earlier and where seens as Dublin's main challenger for the All Ireland in 1975. Kerry were complete outsiders in 1975. The same with Meath in 1996. Carlow were actually favourites with the bookies in first round of leinster championship match with Meath , after Eire og did so well in leinster club . And Meath were hammered the year beforehand v Dublin meant Meath were complete outsiders in 1996.

    The only other teams that came from nowhere to win Sam in the last 50 years were Dublin in 1974 and Galway in 1998. Dublin werent a young team but Heffernan brought them from div 2 to All Ireland champions in 12 months. Galway were actually in div 3 when they won All Ireland in 1998. They were in div 3 in 1997 and did not get promoted. So they were a div 3 team in 1998. But GAA all teams in 1998 were put in a hat and drawn. So Dublin and kerry were in div 3 in 1998. And divsion 1 was full of div 3 and div 4 teams. But Galway were technicaly a div 3 team in 1998. ( Only Armagh who were in divsion 2 in 2002 and Galway who were in divsion 3 in 1998 are the only teams outside division 1 to win Sam in last 40 years ).

    Galway did have a young team in 1998. So were Tyrone in 2003. But kerry 1975 and Meath were youngest because players like Pat Spillane in 1975 and Darren Fay in 1996 were 20 and still under 21 players.

    The unsusal thing about Meath team to the kerry team in 1975 and Cork team in 1966 was kerry football team in 1975 and Cork hurling team in 1966 , players on both teams won senior and under 21 All Ireland double in the same year. Meath won senior in 1996 but the same players didnt win under 21 All Ireland in 1996. They were beaten by Cavan in All Ireland under 21 semi final.


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