fluoride linked to 1 cause of death

orangebud

http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/

When i heard about fluoride been bad for you first i just brushed it aside thinking it was another conspiracy theory. For the last few months i have google sending me information on fluoride (google news = class) & i am now convinced this **** is bad for you

whats your view on fluoride?

marathonic

orangebud wrote: »

http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-fluoride-linked-to-1-cause-of-death-in-new-research/

When i heard about fluoride been bad for you first i just brushed it aside thinking it was another conspiracy theory. For the last few months i have google sending me information on fluoride (google news = class) & i am now convinced this **** is bad for you

whats your view on fluoride?

A study that used more than 60 subjects linking fluoride to cardiovascular disease.... I think this is another study that I'd say you can safely brush aside.

If over 72 percent of Americans drink water treated with fluoride and this is the first death that may be linked to it, I think I'll take my chances. To be honest, I don't think there's any food item available on the open market that hasn't been linked to heart disease, cancer or some other potentially fatal disease.

metamorphosis

Correlation doesn't mean causation and all that jazz

Pace2008

I find ignoring anything with "natural" in its domain name to be a pretty good heuristic.

Sure enough, here's a recent article from the same site telling you how to treat herpes "naturally." Homeopathy (how is this more "natural" than conventional methods?) and aromatherapy are among the suggested methods.

Go figure.

digzy

i'm a dentist so unlike most of the clowns who post about it here's the facts.

it's present in water at a concentration of .8 part per million. that means for every ten million litres there's 8 litres of fluoride.
there's reliable studies that find a correlation between fluoride present in water and a decrease in dental decay.

you'll find evidence that it can poison you which is very true. however bear in mind quantity. if you drink a few pints you'll have a bit of craic. if you drink 20 you'll get pissed and puke most of it out cos in sufficient quantities you'll get alcohol poisoning. i dare say there's a few more cases of alcohol poisoning than fluoride poisoning each weekend!

Indeed i'd be more woried about the other shoite in water, just ask the people in galway who couldn't drink their tap water a few years back!

so to sum up. ignore studies that use a fluoride level above 1.5 ppm.

jive

lmao @ that study. oh lordy

Bottle_of_Smoke

If there was a significant benefit to fluoride without risks you would think major EU nations would be putting it in their water. In fact it would be effectively criminal if they weren't. When Ireland is doing something most other EU nations have banned or ruled out I think any sane person would side with the progressive nations.

not being linked to deaths is not a good reason to use it. That's like claiming to be a good person on the grounds you've never murdered anyone

What right has the government got to be medicating individuals through the water supply? We know how to use a toothbrush ffs

Edwardius

It's here in full if anyone's arsed reading it.

Edwardius

Ok I read it. Basically they were testing the feasibility of a new technique for measuring atherosclerosis by detecting positrons emitted from Fluorine-18 as there is uptake when calcification occurs. They used a bunch of veterans who had other CVD markers to test it.

jive wrote:

lmao @ that study. oh lordy

There's hardly a whole lot wrong with the paper. You don't need 20,000,000 subjects for work like that.

The blog says something which is completely at odds with the paper...

Conclusion

Our study demonstrates that vascular calcification and fluoride uptake are significantly correlated in the same arterial territory, although not necessarily overlapping in the same anatomic locations. An increased fluoride uptake in coronary arteries may be associated with an increased cardiovascular risk. Combined anatomic and metabolic imaging with sodium [18F]fluoride PET/CT offers a promising, noninvasive method to evaluate atherosclerosis.

Basically go to the source when you see something like this because invariably some genius will completely miss the point. There's a comment in the blog saying pretty much the same thing but another load underneath going on about how flourine used to hang out with hitler [/godwin]