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Satellite and receiver question?

  • 16-01-2012 5:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering is there any method around recording a channel and watching another channels at the same time from a combo box without running another wire down from the LNB? I have only one wire running from receiver up to the LNB on the satellite dish at the moment and I can only watch one channel while recording. Do they make any device for the satellite receiver that would allow me to record and watch other channels together? Some device like a convertor that would be plugged into the receiver and the single LNB would be converted onto dual and quad LNB functions?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Liameter


    There are ways to achieve this in a limited fashion by using a splitter but both programmes must be in the same "LNB Band".
    http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/split_feed.htm

    I think that a Humax Freesat PVR can do it automatically.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Just wondering is there any method around recording a channel and watching another channels at the same time from a combo box without running another wire down from the LNB?

    Does this combo have more than 1 satellite tuner?

    The Triax HD537 you mention elsewhere only has 1 sat. tuner & doesn't have a 2nd lnb connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Does this combo have more than 1 satellite tuner?

    The Triax HD537 you mention elsewhere only has 1 sat. tuner & doesn't have a 2nd lnb connection.

    You are right it only has one tuner.

    I dont know if this would work and please let me know if it wouldn't, I was going to buy a dvd recorder with an inbuilt digital tuner and using a splitter connect both the triax box and dvd recorder to the wire coming off the satellite dish. I have 100% signal quality and strength on satellite dish. I would have two different tuners then. If I was recording with the triax, I could watch tv with the dvd recorder tuner and vice versa. I have 95% signal strength with 80% signal quality with the terrestrial aerial on the triax box and I would connect up the dvd recorder to it too.

    Any hope of the above working?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    'Digital tuner' does not imply compatibility with all digital signals. Satellite & terrestrial signals are different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    'Digital tuner' does not imply compatibility with all digital signals.

    All I have to insure that the tuner in the dvd recorder is Mpeg-4 compatible isnt it?
    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    'Satellite & terrestrial signals are different.

    Yeah Im aware of that. There are two separate tuners on this triax box, One terrestrial (for all the rte channels) and one satellite tuner for (BBC UTV Channel 4 etc). But I was hoping that the exact same connections would be on the back of the dvd recorder that are on the triax box, one terrestrial socket and one satellite dish connection. I was going to link the two (dvd recorder and triax box) with a splitter.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    teednab-el wrote: »
    I was hoping that the exact same connections would be on the back of the dvd recorder that are on the triax box, one terrestrial socket and one satellite dish connection.

    Well, first off you'll have to find a dvd recorder with a satellite tuner.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    teednab-el wrote: »
    . . . I was going to link the two (dvd recorder and triax box) with a splitter.

    No need for splitters with the Triax box, it has loopthroughs for passing on both satellite & terrestrial signals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    No need for splitters with the Triax box, it has loopthroughs for passing on both satellite & terrestrial signals.

    Does that mean I could just hook up the dvd recorder to the triax box and I would receive a signal to the tuner in the dvd recorder? Do you know of any dvd recorders with satellite tuners?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Afaik, only bluray recorders have mpeg4 tuners of any kind, terrestrial or satellite. I think Panasonic made one with twin sat. tuners, not sure if they do anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Afaik, only bluray recorders have mpeg4 tuners of any kind, terrestrial or satellite. I think Panasonic made one with twin sat. tuners, not sure if they do anymore.

    Well its actually a blu ray recorder I want to get. Should I go ahead with my plan above or do more research do you reckon?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    I actually thought mentioning (expensive) BD recorders would put you off the idea; depends what you want yourself, you'll only have maximum recording flexibility with twin tuners and, in the case of satellite, 2 lnb feeds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    I actually thought mentioning (expensive) BD recorders would put you off the idea; depends what you want yourself, you'll only have maximum recording flexibility with twin tuners and, in the case of satellite, 2 lnb feeds.

    Cheers.

    So if I pick up a blu ray recorder with twin tuners that is Mpeg-4 compatable and loopthrough it through the triax 537 hd box via terrestrial and satellite connections will I be able to record and watch channels at the same time?

    The signal that passes through the triax box to the blu ray recorder, will the BR player still work with the single lnb on the dish provided the recorder has compatible twin tuners?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    No, as has been said, if you want to watch and record different channels from satellite with total flexibility, you will need at least a twin LNB on your dish and two cable runs.

    I had a quick look at the BluRay recorders, they seem to be either Freesat OR Freeview, so not a combo like your Triax.

    You should be able to record from satellite, and watch Saorview (and vice versa) on your Triax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    rurs wrote: »
    No, as has been said, if you want to watch and record different channels from satellite with total flexibility, you will need at least a twin LNB on your dish and two cable runs.

    I had a quick look at the BluRay recorders, they seem to be either Freesat OR Freeview, so not a combo like your Triax.

    You should be able to record from satellite, and watch Saorview (and vice versa) on your Triax.

    Thanks for all your help.

    I was told earlier on that I didn't need a splitter because I could loopthrough it through the triax. I was going to link the BR recorder to the triax using splitter. I always thought that a splitter was the only solution when I have a single lnb and single cable coming in from the dish. I am aware that using this method would affect signal quality but I could test it out if I thought there was a chance that it could work. I won't be able to run down a second lnb feed so I have go about it a different way.

    Again sorry for all the questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    Loopthrough/splitting will pass only one quarter of the possible frequencies/polarities, which is determined by whichever receiver is first in line.

    There are two frequency bands (10.7 - 11.7 GHz, 11.7 - 12.75 GHz), and two polarities (Horizontal and Vertical). So if you are tuned to Channel 4 on the Triax, (10.714 GHz, H), the receiver fed from the loopthrough will only be able to tune to other channels in this band and polarity. So no to E4, CNN, BBC HD, but yes to ITV 1 HD, BBC 3, Channel 5.

    I think you might be better off spending your money on a dual tuner Freesat box like the Humax. These can loopthrough to themselves (so less guessing as to what's available if you're recording - out of band channels are greyed out, I believe), and have built in hard drives, with a 7 day guide. Keep the Triax for Saorview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    rurs wrote: »
    Loopthrough/splitting will pass only one quarter of the possible frequencies/polarities, which is determined by whichever receiver is first in line.

    There are two frequency bands (10.7 - 11.7 GHz, 11.7 - 12.75 GHz), and two polarities (Horizontal and Vertical). So if you are tuned to Channel 4 on the Triax, (10.714 GHz, H), the receiver fed from the loopthrough will only be able to tune to other channels in this band and polarity. So no to E4, CNN, BBC HD, but yes to ITV 1 HD, BBC 3, Channel 5.

    I think you might be better off spending your money on a dual tuner Freesat box like the Humax. These can loopthrough to themselves (so less guessing as to what's available if you're recording - out of band channels are greyed out, I believe), and have built in hard drives, with a 7 day guide. Keep the Triax for Saorview.

    Another question. I won't be able to feed a second wire down from the lnb to box. If I get a twin tuner humax freesat box will I be able to record and watch satellite channels at the same time?

    And for the saorview box (triax box) I still won't be able to watch and record at the same time or can terrestrial signals be loopthroughed? They are different signals aren't they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    Another question. I won't be able to feed a second wire down from the lnb to box. If I get a twin tuner humax freesat box will I be able to record and watch satellite channels at the same time?

    NO. (you need 2 feeds)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    teednab-el wrote: »
    I won't be able to feed a second wire down from the lnb to box. If I get a twin tuner humax freesat box will I be able to record and watch satellite channels at the same time?

    The Humax Foxsat HDR can operate with a single lnb cable looped to the 2nd tuner (mentioned already by rurs) but you can only view a channel of the same band & polarity as the one you are recording (already mentioned several times), as the lnb must stay tuned to the channel being recorded.
    And for the saorview box (triax box) I still won't be able to watch and record at the same time or can terrestrial signals be loopthroughed? They are different signals aren't they?

    You have to loopthrough to another terrestrial tuner & this would have also have to be connected to the display.

    Some single tuner receivers have 'semi-twin tuner' capability, where you can view a channel on the same satellite transponder or terrestrial multiplex as the one being recorded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    I won't be able to feed a second wire down from the lnb to box. If I get a twin tuner humax freesat box will I be able to record and watch satellite channels at the same time?

    The Humax Foxsat HDR can operate with a single lnb cable looped to the 2nd tuner (mentioned already by rurs) but you can only view a channel of the same band & polarity as the one you are recording (already mentioned several times), as the lnb must stay tuned to the channel being recorded.
    And for the saorview box (triax box) I still won't be able to watch and record at the same time or can terrestrial signals be loopthroughed? They are different signals aren't they?

    You have to loopthrough to another terrestrial tuner & this would have also have to be connected to the display.

    Some single tuner receivers have 'semi-twin tuner' capability, where you can view a channel on the same satellite transponder or terrestrial multiplex as the one being recorded.


    After all that guys I'm deciding to get sky plus. I'm sick and tired of not being able to watch certain channells when recording with this triax box and its pi$$ing me off big time.

    So question now is, where do I go from here? How many wires should I bring down from the lnb? Do I need to change my dish? I definately have to change my lnb to at least 4 outputs?

    I was thinking of putting my sky plus box in the main living room as I got new tv and have the triax box in the other living room with the older HD tv. Could I attach an additional satellite dish wire onto the wire of the triax box that would make it long enough to go into the second living room, don't want to hole anywhere else on the wall, (not my house).

    Will the sky plus for one tv and the triax box for another tv all work off my installed dish? Anything I need to know before doing all of this? Made a huge mistake already of buying the triax box, my own fault of course. Don't let me make another bad mistake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    Sky+ requires two connections to LNB, Triax in another room will need its own cable, so a Quad output LNB is needed, swapping out your current single out. The dish itself will be fine.

    But you said at the start you couldn't run any more cables?

    If you do decide to add more cabling, you could go with Sky+, or the Freesat+ route. (eg Humax).

    Most of the combos on the market will allow you to at least watch one Saorview, record another, unfortunately the Triax doesn't, one of it's many failings. I don't know how shops/installers feel they can sell it, given the lack of support/updates from Triax.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    will a humax box record off saorview ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    dharn wrote: »
    will a humax box record off saorview ?

    No, I should have made it clear, either subscribe to Sky, with subsidised equipment & install but ongoing bills (and UK and Irish TV), or pay up front for a Freesat+ box and cabling etc, and continue to use the Triax for DTT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    rurs wrote: »
    Sky+ requires two connections to LNB, Triax in another room will need its own cable, so a Quad output LNB is needed, swapping out your current single out. The dish itself will be fine.

    But you said at the start you couldn't run any more cables?

    If you do decide to add more cabling, you could go with Sky+, or the Freesat+ route. (eg Humax).

    Most of the combos on the market will allow you to at least watch one Saorview, record another, unfortunately the Triax doesn't, one of it's many failings. I don't know how shops/installers feel they can sell it, given the lack of support/updates from Triax.

    I know but I have convinced the owner of house that sky is best option. Going to install sky now at some stage. Anyone know is there anyway around recording from the sky go app that I have on the xbox? I subscribed there a while back, but now I want the real thing and cancell that sky go bill instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    teednab-el wrote: »
    rurs wrote: »
    Sky+ requires two connections to LNB, Triax in another room will need its own cable, so a Quad output LNB is needed, swapping out your current single out. The dish itself will be fine.

    But you said at the start you couldn't run any more cables?

    If you do decide to add more cabling, you could go with Sky+, or the Freesat+ route. (eg Humax).

    Most of the combos on the market will allow you to at least watch one Saorview, record another, unfortunately the Triax doesn't, one of it's many failings. I don't know how shops/installers feel they can sell it, given the lack of support/updates from Triax.

    I know but I have convinced the owner of house that sky is best option. Going to install sky now at some stage. Anyone know is there anyway around recording from the sky go app that I have on the xbox? I subscribed there a while back, but now I want the real thing and cancell that sky go bill instead.

    Does the sky+ box cover saorview? My tv is 3 years old with no digital tuner, so if sky+ didn't have saorview I would still have to keep triax box connected to tv. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I'll try help.

    There are lots of questions, and contradictions in some of your questions.

    From my reading, You had a single cable going to the dish and did not want to run another cable, even though running a second cable is possible.

    You are getting fed up of not being able to record one channel and watch another.

    You are considering Sky, but might consider another box if it offers all the features as Sky.

    OK

    1) The same dish can be used. For Sky+ you need two connections, for other non record boxes you need one connection. So if you get a 4 connection at the top you can have Sky+ and two other non-sky boxes in other rooms.

    2) It is best to run 2 cables to anyplace you want to record, if at all humany possilble. I think you have figured that out

    3) Sky+ is the simplest best system, easiest to use, but if you are spending the minimum of 25 per month over a 5 year period, that's €1,500 and you may probably end up watching just the free channels which you know and love. However with Sky it is smooth and easy to use especiallly for elderly etc.

    4) If if you go down Sky route old sky boxes can be used in bedrooms without a sky card to receive some channels. No need to pay sky for multiroom. -easy to use, but a bit of a pain as no RTE on box.

    4) Best value is to spend say €500 on a box with twin tuners, pause etc for the main sitting room, and use cheaper boxes for the other rooms. It should last 5 years and easily save you money. If you want get a fairly cheap box and then upgrade in a few years, -move it to bedroom.

    5) I cannot recommend the best box (it's a different qn demanding a different thread) but you would ideally need a box with TWO satellite and TWO terrestrial tuners so you get as close to Sky+ as possible. The perfect box is not yet available but some boxes are getting close but not cheap.

    You can haggle for Sky discounts but going you own is best value in the long term if you want to save a few quid. If you won't miss 25 quid every 4 weeks then Sky is the easy solution. If you are strapped for cash then it's a waste.

    Hopefully the ideal box will come out in the next few months/years, but that's another question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Does the sky+ box cover saorview? My tv is 3 years old with no digital tuner, so if sky+ didn't have saorview I would still have to keep triax box connected to tv. Thanks.

    Not Saorview, just the 5 main Irish channels (via satellite, so no need for an aerial). If you stop subscribing to Sky, you will no longer receive these channels via satellite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭zg3409


    If you have a sky box with subscription you will get RTE after October 2012. You don't need anything special or to change anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    What should I do now if I get sky box, I wont have any 3e or rte news channel with the box. I want to move the triax combo to another room.

    Hear me out here, I have 3 tvs. One HD ready pre saorview which has the triax combo box connected at the moment, one full hd one with a built in saorview upstairs but I only use for gaming and pc at the moment and one old CRT TV pre 1997 which is in the other living room. Would it be confusing to have a sky box and triax box connected up to the pre saorview hd ready tv? The only reason Id be doing this is to receive the 3e, rte +1 and rte news channels as well seeming you cant get them with sky. I think there is too much clutter with having two boxes in the living room with 3 remotes, 1 TV, 1 Triax box and 1 skybox.

    I was thinking of bringing down my full hd tv with inbuilt saorview tuner to the main living room and connect up my sky-box with that, then I would have all the sky channels and Irish terrestrial channels with just using two remotes 1 TV, 1 skybox. I would get rid of the CRT TV in the other room and replace it with the hd ready tv and triax box.

    Only problem is I cant record the terrestial channels on the inbuilt saorview tv, i.e. if there is something on 3e I wont be able to record it and I would have to buy another tv for my room upstairs. I will not use the CRT for gaming or PC, doesnt have the connections anyway.

    Is there any easier way around this?

    The CRT will need a saorview box as well if I intend using it in the future.

    Have to solve all this before I get sky in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭zg3409


    No simple solution if you want 3E and record etc.

    3E may, and I emphasis may be on SaorSAT in the future making recording easier.

    There is also a hack which will allow a Sky card to work in a Ferguson Combo box but it's probably illegal.

    Even with all above, it won't be a slick as a Sky+ etc. If you are in no panic wait until September/October. There may be better boxes available by then. In theory Sky could add 3E, RTE new now etc, but it is very unlikely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    I think 3E is on Sky? Channel 105


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    rurs wrote: »
    I think 3E is on Sky? Channel 105

    not if you have'nt got a sub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    zg3409 wrote: »
    No simple solution if you want 3E and record etc.

    3E may, and I emphasis may be on SaorSAT in the future making recording easier.

    There is also a hack which will allow a Sky card to work in a Ferguson Combo box but it's probably illegal.

    Even with all above, it won't be a slick as a Sky+ etc. If you are in no panic wait until September/October. There may be better boxes available by then. In theory Sky could add 3E, RTE new now etc, but it is very unlikely.

    Only way I think I can do it is leave the triax box where it is and install the sky box next to it. A quad feed lnb will have to be installed. At the moment that tv in the main living room has only one hdmi connection. I got a dual slot hdmi adapter for plugging both my dvd player and triax box into it. Only one can work at a time unlike more modern tvs where you have 3 or 4 hdmi connections and for example if you have a playstation working on hdmi1 slot, you can have the xbox working on hdmi2 slot and multimedia player on hdmi3 and can switch between them with your remote like my tv upstairs. I know I can link triax box up by scart plug but it wont be as good as hdmi.

    I dont know if my triax box and sky box will work on a hdmi adapter? If you switch something on and its connected up with this adapter, it will start up automatically.For example if the triax box is using hdmi and I switch on the dvd player the dvd will start up and play and vice a versa.

    Maybe there is something out there for this?

    I just dont know. Technology is a pain.

    If you know of any solutions let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Just figured out that there was a small switch on the adapter that allows me to switch between connections. Therefore I can hook up my sky HD box and free to air box to it. It will be a nuisance though getting up and switching the adapter switch.

    I found this on link below that should solve my problem, it has a remote and all.


    http://www.cabling4less.co.uk/products/933/3_port_auto_hdmi_switch_with_remote/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Hey I have sky got for the house I'm living in but I am waiting for engineer to install it Friday. Looking for a bit of advice, I have a dish already installed with a single feed down to a free to air triax combo box. I am going to keep triax box in the living room along with the sky box for the saorview channels and it gives me another alternative for recording if sky box is recording already.

    However I have a question in relation to the LNB, what should I do as I have another tv in another room and I am hoping to purchase a good free to air box or unsub sky box off ebay and my question is, how will I manage when there will be only a single feed remaining if a quad lnb is installed, sky box in living room needs two feeds, triax box will use one feed and I will have one feed remaining. The good FTA boxes need two feeds otherwise recording will be limited.

    Any advice on instructing the engineer what to do? And should I bring in the 4 feeds through the same point of the wall of house, i.e. behind tv stand in living room, like where the triax box is located?

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    You are letting him use the existing dish you have installed ?

    Is it because you dont want 2 dishes ?

    This is a step up from the Quad, its an Octo - 8 outputs.
    http://www.tvtrade.ie/octo-lnb.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    STB wrote: »
    You are letting him use the existing dish you have installed ?

    Is it because you dont want 2 dishes ?

    This is a step up from the Quad, its an Octo - 8 outputs.
    http://www.tvtrade.ie/octo-lnb.html

    Ok the installer came today while i wasn't around I was at work and he installed sky, a friend of mine was there with the engineer, I was told Friday the engineer would be coming, anyway he installed sky but only brought down two wires for sky box, and nothing else. I'm fed up of the whole thing. I told him to come Friday while I was off from work and he comes today. No triax box connected to dish now. Any way out of this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Ok the installer came today while i wasn't around I was at work and he installed sky, a friend of mine was there with the engineer, I was told Friday the engineer would be coming, anyway he installed sky but only brought down two wires for sky box, and nothing else. I'm fed up of the whole thing. I told him to come Friday while I was off from work and he comes today. No triax box connected to dish now. Any way out of this?

    He used your dish, disconnected the single lnb, connected a quad lnb, left your single cable going to the triax disconnected ?

    Have I got this right ????

    B*llock him out of it would come to mind if that is the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    STB wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    Ok the installer came today while i wasn't around I was at work and he installed sky, a friend of mine was there with the engineer, I was told Friday the engineer would be coming, anyway he installed sky but only brought down two wires for sky box, and nothing else. I'm fed up of the whole thing. I told him to come Friday while I was off from work and he comes today. No triax box connected to dish now. Any way out of this?

    He used your dish, disconnected the single lnb, connected a quad lnb, left your single cable going to the triax disconnected ?

    Have I got this right ????

    B*llock him out of it would come to mind if that is the case.

    Yes exactly what he did, I can't Fe*king believe it, he used my single feed going from the triax box and connected it to sky box and then he brought down another feed from the dish instead. I can't understand why he didn't bring two wires down and leave the triax wire alone. He didn't need to install a dish either,but in fairness though the dish I have is only 3 months old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    teednab-el wrote: »
    STB wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    Ok the installer came today while i wasn't around I was at work and he installed sky, a friend of mine was there with the engineer, I was told Friday the engineer would be coming, anywayi he installed sky but only brought down two wires for sky box, and nothing else. I'm fed up of the whole thing. I told him to come Friday while I was off from work and he comes today. No triax box connected to dish now. Any way out of this?

    He used your dish, disconnected the single lnb, connected a quad lnb, left your single cable going to the triax disconnected ?

    Have I got this right ????

    B*llock him out of it would come to mind if that is the case.


    Yes exactly what he did, I can't Fe*king believe it, he used my single feed going from the triax box and connected it to sky box and then he brought down another feed from the dish instead. I can't understand why he didn't bring two wires down and leave the triax wire alone. He didn't need to install a dish either, in fairness though the fish I have is only 3 months old.

    Would I get full access to channels on FTA box if I used a splitter but switch sky box off each time I want to watch channels like ITV 1 2,3,4, Channel 5, 5 USA, 5* etc. on FTA box? That's all I want to watch in FTA box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    teednab-el wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    STB wrote: »
    teednab-el wrote: »
    Ok the installer came today while i wasn't around I was at work and he installed sky, a friend of mine was there with the engineer, I was told Friday the engineer would be coming, anywayi he installed sky but only brought down two wires for sky box, and nothing else. I'm fed up of the whole thing. I told him to come Friday while I was off from work and he comes today. No triax box connected to dish now. Any way out of this?

    He used your dish, disconnected the single lnb, connected a quad lnb, left your single cable going to the triax disconnected ?

    Have I got this right ????

    B*llock him out of it would come to mind if that is the case.


    Yes exactly what he did, I can't Fe*king believe it, he used my single feed going from the triax box and connected it to sky box and then he brought down another feed from the dish instead. I can't understand why he didn't bring two wires down and leave the triax wire alone. He didn't need to install a dish either, in fairness though the fish I have is only 3 months old.

    Would I get full access to channels on FTA box if I used a splitter but switch sky box off each time I want to watch channels like ITV 1 2,3,4, Channel 5, 5 USA, 5* etc. on FTA box? That's all I want to watch in FTA box.

    Wasn't aware that I could manually tune into the skybox the channels mentioned above. How stupid do I look now. Sorted now though, I won't need the triax box now for satellite FTA channels. I will just use it for saorview and for recording saorview channels. It's EPG for satellite channels was terrible anyway never displayed the info of programmes and for that I don't ever want to use it again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Wasn't aware that I could manually tune into the skybox the channels mentioned above. How stupid do I look now. Sorted now though, I won't need the triax box now for satellite FTA channels. I will just use it for saorview and for recording saorview channels. It's EPG for satellite channels was terrible anyway never displayed the info of programmes and for that I don't ever want to use it again.

    Is there anyway of saving added channels to Sky s default channel list?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Liameter


    No, "Add channels" was a legal obligation but there's no obligation to make it user-friendly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Is there anyway of saving added channels to Sky s default channel list?

    Set up a favourites list.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Liameter


    No way. "Other Channels" don't appear in the EPG so there's no way to add them to favourites. Like I already stated, it's not user-friendly and was never intended to be. It's the bare minimum required to comply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Liameter wrote: »
    No way. "Other Channels" don't appear in the EPG so there's no way to add them to favourites. Like I already stated, it's not user-friendly and was never intended to be. It's the bare minimum required to comply.

    Should keep my old FTA box for these channels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Hi Everyone,
    I was thinking of getting a fta box to try and get a few more channels. A friend of mine has a silver crest, only problem is, he cant get the irish channels, so thats one elimated. Can anyone recommend a box that might give me irish channels as well as uk ones.
    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    you dont need any box to get the irish channes just aerial for saorview enabled tv, or combo box like ariva 120 for older telly and freesat channels


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    Hi Dharn,
    Thank you for your recommendation. I appreciate your replying to my post.
    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    How can I loopthrough a skybox to a triax hd537 box so that I can pick up the fta channels that sky dont store on their default list like channel 5 all the Itvs?

    What connections do I need?

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭zg3409


    teednab-el wrote: »
    How can I loopthrough a skybox to a triax hd537 box so that I can pick up the fta channels that sky dont store on their default list like channel 5 all the Itvs?

    What connections do I need?

    Thanks in advance.

    You need a seperate cable to the DISH. Loopthrough will not work. Only 1/4 of the channels will work that way. There is no point doing it that way.


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