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Bacon Dilemma

  • 14-01-2012 11:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭


    Now they tell us my favourite hangover grub causes cancer.Panic stations.
    FFS ,what next?
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/rashers-linked-to-increased-cancer-risk-535704.html:mad:

    Eating two rashers of bacon a day can increase the risk of pancreatic cancer by 19% and the risk goes up if a person eats more, experts have said.

    Eating 50g of processed meat every day – the equivalent to one sausage or two rashers of bacon – increases the risk by 19% compared to people who do not eat processed meat at all.

    For people consuming double this amount of processed meat (100g), the increased risk jumps to 38%, and is 57% for those eating 150g a day.

    The latest study, published in the British Journal of Cancer, is from researchers at the respected Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden.

    They examined data from 11 studies, including 6,643 cases of pancreatic cancer.

    They found inconclusive evidence on the risks of eating red meat overall compared to eating no red meat.

    They found a 29% increase in pancreatic cancer risk for men eating 120g per day of red meat but no increased risk among women.

    This may be because men in the study tended to eat more red meat than women.

    They concluded: “Findings from this meta-analysis indicate that processed meat consumption is positively associated with pancreatic cancer risk.

    “Red meat consumption was associated with an increased risk of pancreatic cancer in men.

    “Further prospective studies are needed to confirm these findings.”

    The study adds to understanding about the risk factors for developing pancreatic cancer.





    Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/rashers-linked-to-increased-cancer-risk-535704.html#ixzz1jTdlyzFn


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Lies, damned lies, and statistics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    I couldn't care less. I'm still going to eat meat. Can't live in a freakin' bubble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,826 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. FACT!
    Bloody scientists, always trying to justify their existence......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    who are these people who do not eat processed meat? where the hell in the western world are you going to find people that have not ever eaten processed food.

    Either way totally worth it. and any way if you are getting hangovers your liver will probably give out first :D


    so in conclusion

    eatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebacon
    eatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebacon
    eatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebacon
    eatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebaconeatthebacon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    farting increases your risk of cancer! \o/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    I have it on good authority that bacon is good for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Look what I found in a shop last week!

    Can only be good for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Sounds very Daily Mail-ish.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Everything causes cancer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭senorwipesalot


    Look what I found in a shop last week!

    Can only be good for you
    Mmmmmmm.Piggy fresh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    It`s something different every year...white bread`s bad...oh wait...no...white bread`s ok...don`t eat too many eggs now...bad for ya don`t ya know....oh wait....no....eat an egg every day...they`re great. Fuck off "experts".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Meh. Everything gives you cancer apparently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Pigs! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Pin_Cushion


    I've never understood the whole hangover cure thing when it comes to fry-ups. I love fry ups and a good feed of drink but the last thing I want to see the next morning is a load of food. I've never eaten a fry-up while hungover. It would probably come out as fast as it went in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    I've never understood the whole hangover cure thing when it comes to fry-ups. I love fry ups and a good feed of drink but the last thing I want to see the next morning is a load of food. I've never eaten a fry-up while hungover. It would probably come out as fast as it went in.

    It's the salt. Consuming salt allows your body to retain more fluids which fights the hangover.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    It depends how the bacon is processed - most bacon that's sold in supermarkets have added water & phosphates which is why they ooze a white scum when they are cooked.

    However, the likes of dry cured bacon - if it's cured in the traditional manner - doesn't have any additives.

    There's not a lot of places which sell this type of bacon - O'Dohertys in Eniskillen is one I know & it supplies a local shop near me - but if you are, you should try it as the taste and texture are far superior to normal shop bought bacon.

    It costs a bit more, but it's well worth it for both flavour & the knowledge that it's not been pumped with crap that you don't really need or want in your rashers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    It`s something different every year...white bread`s bad...oh wait...no...white bread`s ok...don`t eat too many eggs now...bad for ya don`t ya know....oh wait....no....eat an egg every day...they`re great. Fuck off "experts".

    I see the egg council got to you too lenny :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    I've seen that on various websites and the closest I've seen to a reference is Swedish scientists.

    The correlation only held for women because the eat less red meat in general. So what's the importance of processed meat? Is it because we are men? Are women giving us their cancer? Do Swedish people hate bacon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I'd imagine people who eat bacon sangers every day partake in other unhealthy things that contribute to the ol' cancer.

    Has that been considered in the research?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Everything causes cancer.

    So air causes cancer? :eek:

    Better stop breathing so.......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Now they tell us my favourite hangover grub causes cancer.Panic stations.
    FFS ,what next?
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/rashers-linked-to-increased-cancer-risk-535704.html:mad:

    Eating two rashers of bacon a day can increase the risk of pancreatic cancer by 19% and the risk goes up if a person eats more, experts have said.

    Per day, so you should be fine to still use it as a hangover cure. If you have a hangover every day, you've bigger problems that the rashers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Kojak wrote: »
    So air causes cancer? :eek:

    Better stop breathing so.......

    It does in Chernobyl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Has that been considered in the research?
    Probably not, but sure they say everything causes cancer these days.

    Smoking even...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    sheesh wrote: »
    lenny

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    For some sweeping generalizations:

    I'm fairly sure the people who eat processed meat every day (as opposed to people who eat lean meat, or no meat) are also the same people who are more likely to be overweight, less likely to take sufficient exercise, probably don't drink enough water, probably eat lots of processed food in general.

    That is unless the study looked for any lifestyle factor pancreatic cancer patients had in common and the ONLY one that appeared was that they eat processed meat. I'd be skeptical that it's JUST the rashers, more likely its a symbol of a particular lifestyle.

    Not that I dislike rashers... There is nothing nicer than 2 nice rashers, wit the fat just nicely crisped, on soft white bread with real butter and a big mug of tea. Just not every day....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Sky King wrote: »
    everything causes cancer these days.

    Smoking even...

    Pfff..

    My great granny smoked a pipe from the age of three and she lived until she was 143.

    Ergo..

    DISPROVED.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭senorwipesalot


    you've bigger problems than the rashers.
    I never thought the day would come when Id be told Ive got bigger problems than rashers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I'm surprised at you ,Senorwipesalot, I thought you'd have had more sense than to post something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    To be fair getting up out of bed of a morning gives you cancer. Fúck these Science men and enjoy yourself you only get one go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    The only time that people believe scientists is when they tell you there's no god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭boomkatalog


    Studies on cancer have found that 90% of studies on cancer can cause cancer.

    Feck off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    You hardly need a scientist to tell you that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Everything causes cancer, just enjoy your life for christ sake.





    /puts bacon on grill, while lighting a smoke off it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Its comical that the word "scientists" is ever used to argue/prove anything!
    Who are these scientists and are they accountable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    I'd imagine people who eat bacon sangers every day partake in other unhealthy things that contribute to the ol' cancer.

    Has that been considered in the research?

    thats a bit bacist tbh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭senorwipesalot


    brummytom wrote: »





    /puts bacon on grill, while lighting a smoke off it.
    and cracking open another can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭bicardi19


    There really is no dilemma here at all, eat the bacon. they will be telling you next week it's good for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    To be fair, the word "scientists" isn't used in the article.

    I'd guess this research was more than likely carried out, as it usually is in these cases, by "boffins".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Does anyone remember the rashers with thick hairs on the rind and bits of bone chunks at the top or at the end? Kind of put me off rashers for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Now they tell us my favourite hangover grub causes cancer.Panic stations.
    FFS ,what next?
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/rashers-linked-to-increased-cancer-risk-535704.html:mad:

    Eating two rashers of bacon a day can increase the risk of pancreatic cancer by 19% and the risk goes up if a person eats more, experts have said.

    Eating 50g of processed meat every day – the equivalent to one sausage or two rashers of bacon – increases the risk by 19% compared to people who do not eat processed meat at all.

    For people consuming double this amount of processed meat (100g), the increased risk jumps to 38%, and is 57% for those eating 150g a day.

    The latest study, published in the British Journal of Cancer, is from researchers at the respected Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden.

    They examined data from 11 studies, including 6,643 cases of pancreatic cancer.

    They found inconclusive evidence on the risks of eating red meat overall compared to eating no red meat.

    They found a 29% increase in pancreatic cancer risk for men eating 120g per day of red meat but no increased risk among women.

    This may be because men in the study tended to eat more red meat than women.

    They concluded: “Findings from this meta-analysis indicate that processed meat consumption is positively associated with pancreatic cancer risk.

    “Red meat consumption was associated with an increased risk of pancreatic cancer in men.

    “Further prospective studies are needed to confirm these findings.”

    The study adds to understanding about the risk factors for developing pancreatic cancer.





    Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/rashers-linked-to-increased-cancer-risk-535704.html#ixzz1jTdlyzFn

    Statistics no-one really understands them,

    OK Boardies brace yourself to be educated

    The population as a whole has a 5% chance of getting pancreatic cancer.
    So if I eat a lot of processeed meat which I do according to that article I increase my chances of getting pancreatic cancer by 19%.

    So 19% of 5% is 1%

    So I now have a risk of 1% over the general population in other words I now have a 6% chance of getting P cancer.

    Which is an acceptable risk to me who loves to eat processed meat, mainly bacon.

    So now you can rest well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    44leto wrote: »
    Statistics no-one really understands them,

    OK Boardies brace yourself to be educated

    The population as a whole has a 5% chance of getting pancreatic cancer.
    So if I eat a lot of processeed meat which I do according to that article I increase my chances of getting pancreatic cancer by 19%.

    So 19% of 5% is 1%

    So I now have a risk of 1% over the general population in other words I now have a 6% chance of getting P cancer.

    Which is an acceptable risk to me who loves to eat processed meat, mainly bacon.

    So now you can rest well.

    Cool. So if 100% of population ate bacon morning noon and night only 6% would develop C?

    Queue banjos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    D1stant wrote: »
    Cool. So if 100% of population ate bacon morning noon and night only 6% would develop C?

    Queue banjos

    Yes.

    And I can safely say i have an increased risk of 1%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    brummytom wrote: »
    Everything causes cancer, just enjoy your life for christ sake.





    /puts bacon on grill, while lighting a smoke off it.

    unfiltered smoke ? the best kind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I don't really get the thing about bacon, it's just salty meat really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I don't really get the thing about bacon, it's just salty meat really.

    Get out....now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I don't really get the thing about bacon, it's just salty meat really.
    BURN THE WITCH. BURN HERRRRRRRR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I am going to die of a coronary the cancer hasn't a hope


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    efb wrote: »
    I am going to die of a coronary the cancer hasn't a hope

    A now don't be so pessimistic :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    efb wrote: »
    I am going to die of a coronary the cancer hasn't a hope

    My livers been fighting a good battle.....well so far..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Originally Posted by stupidusername
    I don't really get the thing about bacon, it's just salty meat really.

    There is something seriously wrong with you, you should see a doctor.

    A Bacon cheese and buttter sambo with brown sauce is raw heaven.

    But don't do it to often.


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