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Beetlejuice II

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Correct, and possibly Amazon prime.

    Saw it tonight, haven't seen it in at least 2 decades. Not sure it has aged extremely well, but it still is quite funny!!

    I plan to go see the new one on Friday, will share thoughts here.

    2025 gigs: Selofan, Alison Moyet, Wardruna, Gavin Friday, Orla Gartland, The Courettes, Nine Inch Nails, Rhiannon Giddens, New Purple Celebration, Nova Twins



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,857 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,590 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Yep, seems to be both, oddly

    Just a friendly plug for Just Watch, where you can see where things are steaming etc. Handy little website...

    https://www.justwatch.com/ie/movie/beetlejuice



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    I saw this today.

    I found it quite good. Sure not every joke lands, but the story is good enough to keep it going for the 100 or so minutes that lasts. Tim Burton directs with a similar flair to the first one, there is some great set design and I also liked the music- both original and the songs.

    Performances a bit uneven. Michael Keaton is great again in the title role. Catherine O'Hara delightful, picking up from where she left at Schitt's Creek. Jenny Ortega playing a similar palette to her role as Wednesday Adams. And I also liked Monica Belucci in her small, femme fatale (literally 🙃 ) role. The rest were just OK. If I'm honest, I didn't get Willem Dafoe's role, wasn't particularly necessary in moving the story forward.

    Overall positive balance and anyone that liked the first film will probably enjoy this one too!!

    2025 gigs: Selofan, Alison Moyet, Wardruna, Gavin Friday, Orla Gartland, The Courettes, Nine Inch Nails, Rhiannon Giddens, New Purple Celebration, Nova Twins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,801 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    So just seen this. It takes a while to get going and is certainly different to the first one but it is good and there is some music and good laughs in it.

    I enjoyed it.

    6.5 out of 10 I think.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,515 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Pretty much agree with this Keaton has great fun, O Hara is very Moira Rose but loved every second she was on screen. It's enjoyable enough and moves at a decent clip I wasn't bored but the story is pretty basic.

    RIP Bob :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,641 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Meh.

    Best bits were Keaton and O'Hara.. as expected!

    Not many laughs in the cinema bar one or two lines by O'Hara, and the Richard Marx ballad.

    Can't remember Ryder being so wooden in other roles.. but any scenes with her reacting were dreadful.

    Was it me or did Kyle Gallner not appear again after a tiny appearance? Was strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    I was fully expecting to not like this but I laughed more than I expected and it did enough for me to enjoy it. There is too much going on, and not all of it interesting or going anywhere (you could cut out Dafoe and Bellucci and it would have damn all impact). They should have stuck to them main plot threads for Lydia being haunted by Beetlejuice, and Astrid's plot and flesh them out more and give them a better, less rushed ending.

    I can't understand how they killed off Jeffrey Jones' character only to keep him around and constantly referencing him, and showing Jeffrey's picture on the gravestone, when they go to great lengths to not show him (stop motion animation, and half eaten dead body). It's such a bizarre choice. Just have him dead and move on.

    You'd expect Michael Keaton to steal the show, but for me Catherine O'Hara was the MVP. I enjoyed both their performances, even if Beetlejuice isn't as sinister or as madcap as in the first movie.

    I didn't like the amount of needle drops in the movie, Tragedy by the Bee Gees during Monica Bellucci's arrival scene was just bizarre and the wrong tone. Danny Elfman's name is on the credits yet it looks like he's done sweet F.A. here and left it for a soundtrack to fill. Too busy dealing with his lawsuits maybe.

    I liked Jenna Ortega in it. I'm sure she's very within range of Wednesday, but I didn't watch it beyond the first episode, but her character and vibe works here. I appreciate the running time not being excessive but it definitely could do with a trim of the fat to make it a leaner and better effort for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭samo


    I went to see this last night, not quite sure how I feel about it. I really loved the original and one of my favourite films as a teen back in 1990 + and felt very ‘stranger things’ retro vibe, after 30 mins debated leaving and thought it was utter crap with not a hint of story-line, but quite enjoyed the last 30 mins and set pieces.

    Whomever said William Defoe and other characters didn’t add anything was right, also Winona Ryder was still a bit too Joyce/Stranger things-ish. But I’ve seen worse films - I just really wanted to love it 30+ years later….

    Hopefully no one decides to make the Lost Boys 2 anytime soon to completely ruin my favourite teenage films. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    There's a 2008 The Lost boys 2 with both the Corey's and Angus Sutherland…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭samo


    ok so a film I thankfully missed and never intend to watch!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    If you have Sky or Freesat; Beetlejuice will be on Channel 5 in a few minutes time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Saw this last night and have had time to think about it and I don't really know what to think about it.

    It didn't take too much risks in terms of Beetlejuice the character, just gave us more of what the audience love. Giving him a backstory was interesting but it also felt like it was just for the purpose of bringing Monica Belluci's character which, frankly, didn't add too much to the story; Lydia and Beetlejuice would have connected once again regardless, though at least they picked up on stuff from the first film to build that story. I would have liked more explanation of how Beetlejuice got to where he is in the time between the two films. The stories of Lydia and Delia are fleshed out better in that aspect.

    Michael Keaton was just more of the same. Catherine O'Hara was hilarious and fair play to them for handling the replacement of Jeffrey Jones without completely writing off his character. I did miss Alec Baldwin and Grena Davis, though. Jenna Ortega did seem like another version of Wednesday Addams. Justin Theroux was oozing creepiness right from the off so good job on that front. I like the Willem Dafoe character at first but he didn't really go anywhere with it, which was a shame.

    The story itself made sense and there were some good jokes, though I think it tried harder to fit them in than the original. I'm a big fan of Bob and the Soul Train. I'm also glad that it didn't steer too hard into the "OMG, look how much society has changed in the last thirty-six years" that might be expected.

    Overall, it didn't seem to retcon and worked hard to stick to the original which is impressive after so many years between the two. Visually, its pretty true to the original, musically, too. If you're a fan of the original, I can't see why you wouldn't like it. It did give fans what they want in terms of more Beetlejuice but I don't think it'll be as enduring as the original.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,774 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Thought this was about as good as could be expected from a sequel almost 40 years later. Gels well with the original in tone and style, if you watched both back to back they would work well enough.

    Titular man himself definitely gets a lot more screen time here compared to the original, which if you watch again is very sparing with Michael Keaton only really appearing properly almost two thirds of the way through the movie.

    My main complaint would be that certain characters don't really serve a whole lot of purpose other than star power, eg Monica Bellucci and Willem Dafoe.

    Jen Ortega, Keaton and Katherine O Hara were great.

    Overall fairly decent, not as charming as the original but well worth a watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Bellucci did not need to be in the film at all Justins thureau,s character did not need to be in the film .it's a good film but it does not have the charm of the original and it's not as funny

    The music in it is quite good. The reggae song was a pale repeat of the original film no good reason for it to be there at all

    Ortega is a good actor but she does not have the charm of winona Ryder in the first film

    The special effects and design are very similar to the first film

    Keaton and Katherine o,hara are still great comic actors

    Its maybe 15 minutes too long

    I can see. another sequel in a few years when stranger things is over

    I think Winona Ryder was just fantastic in the first film she was still a teenager playing a goth emo kid who was happy to live in a haunted house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,602 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I thought it was spectacular. Very true to the original but bigger and better set piece scene. Amazing visuals and musical moments, as you’d expect. Keaton is incredible again too.

    Just a pure romp in my opinion, fantastic cinema trip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Its a good entertaining film with great special effects. I watched the first one Winona rider is so much better as a sad goth teen in the first film the first film is kind of a fable about yuppies taking over an old house and the ghosts want to get rid of them Keaton is still great as Beetlejuice .



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