Gas Boiler in a bedroom?

malin182

Hi guys,

I have been renting in a house for the last year with a BAXI gas boiler in my room. I have a CO alarm (which I had to buy myself) and have never had any problems with any leaks.

I will be moving out soon and in case there are any reasons why I am not entitled to my deposit back I am wondering the legality of having a boiler in a bedroom? It doesnt appear to have any vents to the outside as it is attached to an inside wall. It was serviced however on 20/12/11.

Thanks

gdavis

it is perfectly legal to have it in bedroom although not ideal.

JohnnieK

It sounds like your gearing your self up for something.

DGOBS

Barking up the wrong tree

malin182

The reason I ask is because I have learned that even a nice landlord can turn completely around when it comes to holding onto a deposit.

GASMANN

gdavis wrote: »

it is perfectly legal to have it in bedroom although not ideal.

why not ?

DoneDL

GASMANN wrote: »

why not ?

Because it`s a bedroom where people sleep, if the boiler seal goes and CO enters the room they are less alert to respond to the symptoms.

GASMANN

DoneDL wrote: »

Because it`s a bedroom where people sleep, if the boiler seal goes and CO enters the room they are less alert to respond to the symptoms.

nonsense arguement to be honest, where would you put it?

Modern gas boilers are under negative pressure.

I would have no fear of a boiler in my bedroom and would list noise issues long before any safety concerns.

DoneDL

GASMANN wrote: »

nonsense arguement to be honest, where would you put it?

Anywhere but the bedroom, I don`t think you`re paranoid enough for your username. The Reg`s might allow a room sealed boiler in a bedroom but it would never be a first choice.

DoneDL

DoneDL wrote: »

The Reg`s might allow a room sealed boiler in a bedroom but it would never be a first choice.

I'll have to agree to disagree

heinbloed

The OP wrote:

.......I am wondering the legality of having a boiler in a bedroom? It doesnt appear to have any vents to the outside as it is attached to an inside wall.

Inside walls can have flue gas ductings build-in, malin182. Just like the old houses which do not have a chimney along the outside wall but intelligently placed inside the house.
Except they had been build by energy cowboys, that's a different issue .....

Marcanthony

DoneDL wrote: »

Anywhere but the bedroom, I don`t think you`re paranoid enough for your username. The Reg`s might allow a room sealed boiler in a bedroom but it would never be a first choice.

Agree.I bought a buy to let property couple of years ago. Boiler fitted in box bedroom. This room most likly to be used for a child. Moved boiler to kitchen area. Would not like that small possibilty of a fault been on my conscience. Regardless of regs and the yearly service.

sullzz

Marcanthony wrote: »

I bought a buy to let property couple of years ago.

Sorry to hear that:D

GASMANN

DoneDL wrote: »

Anywhere but the bedroom, I don`t think you`re paranoid enough for your username. The Reg`s might allow a room sealed boiler in a bedroom but it would never be a first choice.

what would be first choice ? kitchen ? sitting room ? utility room ? Under stairs ? hot press ?
what are you on about "paranoid" im confident in my ability but paranoid , no.

malin182

GASMANN wrote: »

what would be first choice ? kitchen ? sitting room ? utility room ? Under stairs ? hot press ?
what are you on about "paranoid" im confident in my ability but paranoid , no.

I Would imagine utility room would be the best place as this would have the least amount of people spending time in the room for the sake of a possible leak and noise?

gdavis

personally,id rather not be sleeping in a room with a boiler in it

Fitting a gas boiler in a bedroom is safe, for a gas engineer to say otherwise is silly.

Given a choice over the preferability of installing a boiler in a kitchen/utility or bedroom then the bedroom would always be last, to say otherwise is sillly.

There are a lot of bedroom installations and not everyone with this type of installation has the luxury of repositioning the boiler or not sleeping in that room, by suggesting or inferring that it's not safe to have a boiler fitted in a bedroom can make a person fearful when there is absolutely no need.

Modern gas boilers when fitted properly and serviced yearly are safe, when I started gas fitting things were very different and death from gas appliances came very easy, happily things are very different today , boilers are under negative pressure so if a seal goes air from the room is sucked in to the boiler, permanent pilots are a thing of the past, boilers have flame rectification and can sense flame lift, factor in a good CO alarm then I cannot understand why any gas engineer would want to make someone fearful of a perfectly safe installation

Joey the lips

I spoke to board gais when i stuck our boiler in the bedroom and they said there is no reason to say its not safe there. It can even be boxed on provided you leave the space and vent as advised in the boiler.

i think fitted a carbon mox alarm for added security.

Thanks that side......


I slept in the room one night and tbh with the rad it was boiling. There is 3/4" pipes running to the boiler they were boiling then there is the rad. I would advise you to ensure there is TRV;s on the rads so you can turn them down.

Then there is the boiler coming on the noise coming over the heat exchanger is enough to wake anyone. So tbh until you get use to it its going to be a few nights uncomfortable sleeping.

paddy147

malin182 wrote: »

Hi guys,

I have been renting in a house for the last year with a BAXI gas boiler in my room. I have a CO alarm (which I had to buy myself) and have never had any problems with any leaks.

I will be moving out soon and in case there are any reasons why I am not entitled to my deposit back I am wondering the legality of having a boiler in a bedroom? It doesnt appear to have any vents to the outside as it is attached to an inside wall. It was serviced however on 20/12/11.

Thanks

Why would a boiler in a bedroom have anything to with a deposit,is my question to you??

Sounds like you are up to something yourself and are trying to see if you can stitch up the landlord on this sort of matter.


Anyway,its fully legit and legal to have one in a bedroom,so there goes you're plan out the window.

Also,the landlord doesnt have to supply a Carbon Monoxide Alarm....in reply to you saying that "you had to buy it yourself".

Billy Bunting

paddy147 wrote: »

Also,the landlord doesnt have to supply a Carbon Monoxide Alarm....in reply to you saying that "you had to buy it yourself".

I'm unaware whether the landlord has a legal requirment or not, but most of the rental accomadation i have worked in do actually have both smoke and CO detectors, perhaps thats the landlords just showing a duty of care.

Do you Paddy.

paddy147

Billy Bunting wrote: »

I'm unaware whether the landlord has a legal requirment or not, but most of the rental accomadation i have worked in do actually have both smoke and CO detectors, perhaps thats the landlords just showing a duty of care.

Do you Paddy.

Sorry for late reply,only saw you're post just now.:)


I bought and installed 2 x Fire Angel "10 year" smoke alarms and also a Fire Angel 7 year Digital Carbon Monoxide alarm too.I also provided a 2 kg Fire Extinguisher and a 1.2 x 1.2 meter Fire Blanket.
I take pride and also care too.

Billy Bunting

paddy147 wrote: »

Sorry for late reply,only saw you're post just now.:)


I bought and installed 2 x Fire Angel "10 year" smoke alarms and also a Fire Angel 7 year Digital Carbon Monoxide alarm too.I take pride and also care too.

Then do you not feel the OP's landlord should perhaps do the same.

paddy147

Billy Bunting wrote: »

Then do you not feel the OP's landlord should perhaps do the same.

The fact of the matter is thats not a legal requirement for a private landlord to supply/fit a carbon monoxide alarm.


Maybe the OP should go and chat to his or her landlord and ask for a carbon if a carbon monoxide alarm could be supplied,before going and buying one themselves.

Im a bit baffled by what the OP is up to or trying to do,with regards the opening post with regards a boiler in a bedroom and a deposit.

I mean what has a fully legit and serviced boiler in a bedroom got to do with a deposit????

Billy Bunting

paddy147 wrote: »

The fact of the matter is thats not a legal requirement for a private landlord to supply/fit a carbon monoxide alarm.


??

So why do you ??

paddy147

Billy Bunting wrote: »

So why do you ??

Because of the last bit of my post (post 22).

I went that bit further on all aspects of the house and making it a nice inviting house to live in.Completely replastered throughout,repainted,rewired with several double sockets in every room,new floors,new carpets throughout,new fully fitted open plan kitchen and dining area,new beds,bedroom furniture and Tv/Broadband points in all bedrooms,2nd toilet/shower room downstairs,new main bathroom fitout upstairs.

Even had a professional horticulturalist design and build a nice new split level back garden with raised railway sleeper flower beds and water feature.

Like I said,I take pride and care.

Billy Bunting

paddy147 wrote: »

Because of the last bit of my post (post 22).

I went that bit further on all aspects of the house and making it a nice inviting house to live in.Completely replastered throughout,repainted,rewired with several double sockets in every room,new floors,new carpets throughout,new fully fitted open plan kitchen and dining area,new beds,bedroom furniture and Tv/Broadband points in all bedrooms,2nd toilet/shower room downstairs,new main bathroom fitout upstairs.

Even had a professional horticulturalist design and build a nice new split level back garden with raised railway sleeper flower beds and water feature.

Like I said,I take pride and care.:)

So if the wee Tiger hadnt visited and you had to tighten up, would you keep the CO monitor or the water feature

paddy147

Billy Bunting wrote: »

So if the wee Tiger hadnt visited and you had to tighten up, would you keep the CO monitor or the water feature

Whats the Celtic Tiger got to do with this or myself??

Marcanthony

Billy Bunting wrote: »

So if the wee Tiger hadnt visited and you had to tighten up, would you keep the CO monitor or the water feature

Sorry Paddy I have to agree with Billy.
Boom buy to let propertys are usually 2 storey houses.One story when they where bought and a different story today.

paddy147

Marcanthony wrote: »

Sorry Paddy I have to agree with Billy.
Boom buy to let propertys are usually 2 storey houses.One story when they where bought and a different story today.

Do you or Billy know me though or what I do,or what I have bought or if/when I have bought propperty??

Because Im pretty sure you and Billy dont know my personal circumstances,so why just assume all the above and then aim it at me??

Marcanthony

paddy147 wrote: »

Whats the Celtic Tiger got to do with this or myself??

Billy will you answer the man. He has the house done well and appears to be a good landlord providing safty equipment ect. I think your winding him up. :P

Marcanthony

Marcanthony wrote: »

Billy will you answer the man. He has the house done well and appears to be a good landlord providing safty equipment ect. I think your winding him up. :P

:pac::pac::pac:

paddy147

Anyway.......


OP,please feel free to tell me the link between a boiler in a bedroom and a rental deposit?

Thanks.

paddy147

malin182 wrote: »

The reason I ask is because I have learned that even a nice landlord can turn completely around when it comes to holding onto a deposit.

Its also down to how a "seemingly nice" tennant actually treats and looks after and keeps a house while they are a tennant.

Marcanthony

paddy147 wrote: »

Anyway.......


OP,please feel free to tell me the link between a boiler in a bedroom and a rental deposit?

Thanks.

id say Billy knows the link :rolleyes::D;):p

paddy147

Night folks.:)

Marcanthony

Billy Bunting wrote: »

would you keep the CO monitor or the water feature

Id keep the water feature.:)But I would not have it in the bedroom.

GASMANN

malin182 wrote: »

I Would imagine utility room would be the best place as this would have the least amount of people spending time in the room for the sake of a possible leak and noise?

more than likely has a bedroom above it though, basically what im saying is , as an rgi when installing or maintaining appliances (not only boilers) if i do my job correctly then there are no issues with appliance location and to say otherwise is irresponsible, location of various appliances is permitted or not - its black and white.
if as implied a combustion seal is damaged on an appliance then location will become irrelevant as poc's can travel (shocker!).

GASMANN

op, you dont happen to sleep in the sitting room with a open flued back boiler in it do ya ?