WAT (Waterford airport) mysteriously appears on Flybe's website

Dum_Dum

http://www.flybe.com/destinations/ To Birmingham only. No flights available to book from what I can see. Anyone have any info?

Funfair

they have 16 citys serving Knock airport arcording to the website

ex_infantry man

Dum_Dum wrote: »

http://www.flybe.com/destinations/ To Birmingham only. No flights available to book from what I can see. Anyone have any info?

obviously a sign of new things to come

Chochese

Strangely enough, Birmingham (BHX) doesn't appear on the 'from' list... Hmmmmmmmmm.

Bards

could be this

Extract from http://www.waterford-news.com/news/mhgbeyojql/

"He said plans are in the pipeline to introduce a new route in the near future and said the Birmingham route will be operational again when the summer season begins in April. "

sunnysoutheast

Bards wrote: »

could be this

Extract from http://www.waterford-news.com/news/mhgbeyojql/

"He said plans are in the pipeline to introduce a new route in the near future and said the Birmingham route will be operational again when the summer season begins in April. "

I think that referred to Aer Arann and their temporary shortage of aircraft?

The WAT code seems to have gone from the flybe website now anyway, I was checking out flights earlier today.

Would welcome more destinations with flybe. They should be able to get a Q400 in!

SSE

ScabbyLeg

It's great to see Waterford Airport performing reasonably well but it's totally frustrating to see that almost all of the destinations from Waterford are 'dead ends' like Birmingham or South End... I wish they would fly to a major hub like Heathrow, it would really open up possibilities.

Granted Manchester is not bad at all, but the flights aren't frequent enough for it to be really useful.

cocoshovel

ScabbyLeg wrote: »

It's great to see Waterford Airport performing reasonably well but it's totally frustrating to see that almost all of the destinations from Waterford are 'dead ends' like Birmingham or South End... I wish they would fly to a major hub like Heathrow, it would really open up possibilities.

Granted Manchester is not bad at all, but the flights aren't frequent enough for it to be really useful.

Yeah, Heathrow would be great! There is a reason why they dont fly there though and I cant remember it, perhaps its too expensive for landing fee's etc.

ScabbyLeg

I can imagine that the costs would be quite high, astronomical when compared with the likes of South End I'm sure. But if they could provide a reliable and regular service into Heathrow then they would potentially tap into a market of passengers prepared to pay a little extra to fly from the continent right to the South East with one stop over, and likewise in the other direction.

wellboytoo

mmmmmmm so much for keeping things a secret till the press release

sunnysoutheast

ScabbyLeg wrote: »

I can imagine that the costs would be quite high, astronomical when compared with the likes of South End I'm sure. But if they could provide a reliable and regular service into Heathrow then they would potentially tap into a market of passengers prepared to pay a little extra to fly from the continent right to the South East with one stop over, and likewise in the other direction.

Free slots at Heathrow are like rocking horse poo and there wouldn't be much appetite for complicating landing stacks with turboprop aircraft. BA bought bmi primarily for their LHR slots. Aer Lingus' slots are their major asset. In short it's not going to happen!

A link to Gatwick would be a major boon to the SE region. I'd love that to happen. Whilst I appreciate what Stobart have done for Aer Arann flying to Southend or Luton is useless for most business travellers.

SSE

ScabbyLeg

Gatwick would be excellent alright. With Aer Lingus having a few aircraft based there it would make for a good sharing agreement too.

Cosmo Kramer

Forget about pie in the sky flights to Heathrow, the potential arrival of flybe could actually be what saves Waterford Airport from closure. Aer Arann are near their end as an airline, all of their remaining planes are in the process of being painted in Aer Lingus colours and it is only a matter of time before they cease to exist as a standalone entity. Aer Lingus will only be interested in those aircraft for their potential to feed into transatlantic services at Dublin and to serve Cork and Shannon so I expect that we are nearing the end of Aer Arann/Aer Lingus services at Waterford.

Flybe could build up a nice portfolio of niche routes from the UK to Waterford from the likes of Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh and London and would potentially offer a superior service and a better chance of sustainabile services than is currently offered by Aer Arann. They are making a go of it at Knock and Donegal and Waterford would seem like a good fit for their Q400 aircraft.

wellboy76

So in short, are flybe coming or what?

fricatus

Bards wrote: »

could be this

Extract from http://www.waterford-news.com/news/mhgbeyojql/

"He said plans are in the pipeline to introduce a new route in the near future and said the Birmingham route will be operational again when the summer season begins in April. "

So are we to understand from all of the above that Aer Arann are bringing Birmingham back in April, and in addition to that there is a new route somewhere?

So where would that be? If it's FlyBe, maybe Southampton? How about Edinburgh?

<FANTASY_AIR_ROUTE>How about Paris, Frankfurt or Amsterdam?</FANTASY_AIR_ROUTE>

sunnysoutheast

Good news if true:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056519537

Gatwick next please!

SSE

Cosmo Kramer

Great to see some positive news for this airport. Since Galway and Sligo ceased commercial operations Waterford would have to be considered the most borderline Irish airport in terms of survival with only Aer Arann services on crap planes to offer to passengers. Flybe could give it a real shot in the arm and the opportunity to grow as a viable alternative to Dublin for travellers in the south east.

merlante

Heathrow would be good in some ways but there would be more delays and a longer time at the airport. If you're actually going to London, Heathrow would not necessarily be any better than any other option. Southend is quick in and out of the airport.

I wouldn't write off Aer Arann or Aer Arann/Aer Lingus in Waterford just yet. Lets see how it goes. It's ticking along in recession which is not too bad. And the planes are grand. It's a friendly service.

ScabbyLeg

merlante wrote: »

If you're actually going to London, Heathrow would not necessarily be any better than any other option. Southend is quick in and out of the airport.

South End is convenient if you're going to South End, and don't mind traveling in to London. Provided you can get in there in bad weather.

Heathrow is unrealistic alright, but Gatwick would be a step towards opening Waterford up to connecting flights elsewhere.

sunnysoutheast

merlante wrote: »

Heathrow would be good in some ways but there would be more delays and a longer time at the airport. If you're actually going to London, Heathrow would not necessarily be any better than any other option. Southend is quick in and out of the airport.

I wouldn't write off Aer Arann or Aer Arann/Aer Lingus in Waterford just yet. Lets see how it goes. It's ticking along in recession which is not too bad. And the planes are grand. It's a friendly service.

I don't think anyone is writing them off, but Aer Arann seem to be exclusively focusing on becoming Aer Lingus Regional, I think I read on another thread that by the middle of the year all of their aircraft will be in EI Regional livery. In theory as the ATR fleet is shared we could see EI Regional flights out of Waterford but I don't know the terms of the EI/RE operating agreement.

SSE

air2000

All Aer Arann flights will be branded and sold as EI Regional by the start of the Summer season and all current RE flights changing to 4 digit EI flight numbers.

The 1st of the ATR42's is currently getting painted with Eirtech in Shannon and getting the interior ripped out (hopefully burned), new seats and vibration padding, once the 42's are completed, The remaining ATR72's REH & REI then follow for respray both also getting additional refurbishment and new leather seats.

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Bards

just announced - Flybe is launching a new route from Birmingham Airport to Waterford

Excellent news - another airline to compete with Aer Arann - Hopefully we will get more routes


http://www.birminghampost.net/birmingham-business/birmingham-business-news/businesslatest/2012/01/17/flybe-launches-new-route-from-birmingham-to-waterford-65233-30135905/


Budget airline Flybe is launching a new route from Birmingham Airport to Waterford in the Irish Republic.

The new daily route starts on March 25 and brings Flybe’s total number of destinations from Birmingham to 23.

The Waterford route is expected to expected to cater for a mixture of business and leisure passengers heading for the south east coast city or other parts of the region.

Flybe’s managing director, Andrew Strong, said: “Flybe is committed to developing our route network out of Birmingham and to keeping business and leisure travellers moving during these continued economically challenging times. “

Martyn Lloyd, air services development director for Birmingham Airport added: “Waterford is a popular destination whether it is to visit the place famous for its Waterford Crystal or to walk around its beautiful 200-year-old cathedral.”



Read More http://www.birminghampost.net/birmingham-business/birmingham-business-news/businesslatest/2012/01/17/flybe-launches-new-route-from-birmingham-to-waterford-65233-30135905/#ixzz1jhqYEDBb

tankbarry

Waterford to Birmingham route with Flybe starting in March.... fares are not too bad either and a decent aircraft too some good news

old gregg

some decent locations available from Birmingham too which opens up some nice options

Bards

Bards wrote: »

just announced - Flybe is launching a new route from Birmingham Airport to Waterford

Excellent news - another airline to compete with Aer Arann - Hopefully we will get more routes


http://www.birminghampost.net/birmingham-business/birmingham-business-news/businesslatest/2012/01/17/flybe-launches-new-route-from-birmingham-to-waterford-65233-30135905/


Budget airline Flybe is launching a new route from Birmingham Airport to Waterford in the Irish Republic.

The new daily route starts on March 25 and brings Flybe’s total number of destinations from Birmingham to 23.

The Waterford route is expected to expected to cater for a mixture of business and leisure passengers heading for the south east coast city or other parts of the region.

Flybe’s managing director, Andrew Strong, said: “Flybe is committed to developing our route network out of Birmingham and to keeping business and leisure travellers moving during these continued economically challenging times. “

Martyn Lloyd, air services development director for Birmingham Airport added: “Waterford is a popular destination whether it is to visit the place famous for its Waterford Crystal or to walk around its beautiful 200-year-old cathedral.”



Read More http://www.birminghampost.net/birmingham-business/birmingham-business-news/businesslatest/2012/01/17/flybe-launches-new-route-from-birmingham-to-waterford-65233-30135905/#ixzz1jhqYEDBb

Waterford Airport's Press Release

http://www.waterfordairport.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226&Itemid=200

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Flybe to operate daily flights on Waterford-Birmingham route
January 2012
Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline and the UK’s number one domestic carrier, is to operate a new route connecting Waterford Airport with Birmingham, which was this month voted the UK’s best large airport.
The daily flights present a key tourism opportunity for Ireland’s southeast and open up a huge area of the British midlands for Irish holidaymakers, as well as offering a wide range of onwards travel options in Britain and beyond.
Announcing the new route, Andrew Strong, Managing Director, Flybe UK, said: “Flybe is committed to developing our route network throughout the regions and to keeping business and leisure travellers moving during these economically challenging times. We look forward to the start of our Waterford to Birmingham service in March and to welcoming all of our new passengers on board.”
Graham Doyle, CEO, Waterford Airport, added: “We’re delighted to welcome Flybe to Waterford and look forward to working with them to promote and develop services here. The Birmingham route is a wonderful opportunity for the tourism industry in Ireland’s southeast with direct air access to the region from the UK’s second largest city. In addition, the huge catchment area around Birmingham will allow the southeast to draw visitors from a much wider population base.
“Flybe will offer a convenient and affordable option to those flying from the southeast to one of the best located airports in Britain. The daily frequency will allow us serve more leisure and business passengers and offer convenience and time savings as well as the option of onward connections from a hub airport.”
On Monday to Friday, flights will depart Birmingham for Waterford at 2.40pm and leave Waterford for Birmingham at 4.25pm. The Saturday service will leave Birmingham at 1.55pm and depart Waterford at 3.40pm. On Sundays, the flight will depart Birmingham at 2.55pm and Waterford at 4.40pm. Flights commence on March 25 and are available to book at www.flybe.com with one-way fares from €33, including taxes and airport charges.
Destinations with direct onward flights from Birmingham include major European cities, a wide range of holiday resorts and a number of US cities including New York and Orlando. Flybe’s existing schedule at Birmingham allows for limited connections from Waterford to Paris, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dusseldorf in particular.
Birmingham is a diverse and dynamic city, which has been extensively rejuvenated in recent years. It offers a world-class cultural scene, superb shopping, sports and music as well as fantastic nightlife, major international events and access to some of England’s most beautiful countryside.
The New York Times recently named Birmingham among its ‘45 Places to Go in 2012’ while Olive, the BBC food magazine, named it the UK’s ‘foodiest town’. The city has three Michelin-starred restaurants as well as some of the best Asian cuisine in Europe. In addition, there are many attractions for children and young people nearby with Cadbury World on the outskirts of Birmingham; Shakespeare’s home at Stratford-upon-Avon just 45 minutes away and the Alton Towers family resort only 80 kilometres from the airport.

Bookings for Waterford-Birmingham flights can be made at www.flybe.com. Further information is available at www.visitbirmingham.com; www.birminghamairport.co.uk and www.flywaterford.com.

jonnyfingers

Birmingham opens up a lot of other destinations too. Also Southend airport will be getting a few new routes this year so there will be lots of options to get places from Waterford.

RobitTV

What is needed now is a route to Gatwick

Gatwick is probably the most wanted airport, for years its been growing as a popular airport.

Flybe do operate gatwick services from other airports outside ireland, i believe they operate routes in france to gatwick aswell.

That would be a major boom for waterford airport, and i now believe its more becoming a reality with Flybe coming.

Thanks Aer arann for your services for the last couple of years, shame aer lingus is invading your airline.

I Hope Aer Arann and flybe have better times at waterford then their predecessors

Flybe will keep waterford alive, since Aer arann are being attacked by aer lingus and the future of aer arann is 100% uncertain.

Flybe is the future for waterford overall, new routes are needed badly. Gatwick is the route needed next and waterford passenger numbers will triple.

Neworder79

RobitTV wrote: »

Thanks Aer arann for your services for the last couple of years, shame aer lingus is invading your airline...

Flybe will keep waterford alive, since Aer arann are being attacked by aer lingus and the future of aer arann is 100% uncertain.

What are you smoking? Aer Lingus are the only reason Aer Arann have survived this far, giving them the franchise to operate under the EI brand and handing them former Jet routes saved the airline at a time when it's own routes were collapsing and passengers losing faith in the airline due to poor condition of aircraft, regular delays and cancellations not to mention several safety scares.

They would not have come out of examinership without the Aer Lingus deal which they sought out, and the Stobart money. Ryanair forced them out of Cork but Aer Lingus never directly competed with Arann routes either.

Flyer1

Good times ahead for the airport. Hopefully management can keep a sensible head now for all forms of aviation at the airport.

RobitTV

Waterford just needs 1 or 2 new routes, 1 of them being gatwick.

I Think Flybe will do that, Aer arann just don't have the money to do new routes anymore.

Aer arann are lucky to be alive still, were lucky they didn't pull out of waterford for good.

Flybe is a new chance for the airport, they are the largest regional airline in europe and new routes are made every month in flybe.

This will be the turning point that waterford badly needed since 2008, waterford has been under pressure since then and closure was near in 2010 and even last year.

But at the same time i pray aer arann will survive.

savic04

People think new routes are the answer.. When the summer destinations were here some years ago, they werent exactly ran at full capacity and never returned due to them not making business sense.

In order for the airport to really grow it needs to be able to handle jets, as good as this new route is and maybe future routes... I have a feeling they will go the same way as the previous options..

shanemul

savic04 wrote: »

People think new routes are the answer.. When the summer destinations were here some years ago, they werent exactly ran at full capacity and never returned due to them not making business sense.

Thats not entirely true alot of things played a part in Nex Aviation not running the Summer routes in 2008 and one of those had to be the loss of the owner and Chairman of the Airport as far as I recall they we lined up to return only for this.

fricatus

shanemul wrote: »

Thats not entirely true alot of things played a part in Nex Aviation not running the Summer routes in 2008 and one of those had to be the loss of the owner and Chairman of the Airport as far as I recall they we lined up to return only for this.

The Credit Crunch must have played a huge part too, right?

tramoreman

it looks like they will be running it during the summer checked it out and they were quoteing prices during summer

RobitTV

Also guys the CEO of waterford airport said birmingham is making a return, but with a new route in the future.

"with hopes to introduce a new route later in the year as they grow their offering"

"He said plans are in the pipeline to introduce a new route in the near future and said the Birmingham route will be operational again when the summer season begins in April" - (We now know the birmingham route is returning on the 26th march, operated by flybe)

News article

We basically know Flybe will be the one introducing a new route, since aer arann have a aircraft shortage.

Im sitting here Praying it will be gatwick, but i would be happy with edinburgh or southampton still, but i want gatwick now.

Any ideas?

kensutz

Norwich

shanemul

RobitTV wrote: »

Also guys the CEO of waterford airport said birmingham is making a return, but with a new route in the future.

"with hopes to introduce a new route later in the year as they grow their offering"

"He said plans are in the pipeline to introduce a new route in the near future and said the Birmingham route will be operational again when the summer season begins in April" - (We now know the birmingham route is returning on the 26th march, operated by flybe)

News article

We basically know Flybe will be the one introducing a new route, since aer arann have a aircraft shortage.

Im sitting here Praying it will be gatwick, but i would be happy with edinburgh or southampton still, but i want gatwick now.

Any ideas?

There is no chance of Gatwick being a route. With Soutend and Luton routes to London the airport won't allow another London route to run as it will just take from the other two routes up to a while ago I heard the Airport saying that they didn't even want to London routes as it would result in the loss of numbers on the other. It's looking like the new route will be to another destination in France or to Edinburgh

sunnysoutheast

shanemul wrote: »

There is no chance of Gatwick being a route. With Soutend and Luton routes to London the airport won't allow another London route to run as it will just take from the other two routes up to a while ago I heard the Airport saying that they didn't even want to London routes as it would result in the loss of numbers on the other. It's looking like the new route will be to another destination in France or to Edinburgh

In the absence of contractual or any other constraints I don't see the sense in turning down a potential route to Gatwick to focus on Southend (middle of nowhere) and Luton (not even a daily frequency). I'd have said that a decently-timed route to a well-connected major airport in our major trading partner would do well, they'd probably get 40+ return flights a year out of me for a start, and it could ease the often-cited issues in potential investors actually getting here.

Anyway, here's wishing good luck to flybe!

SSE

tankbarry

Norwich

haha


hey Ken I will put in a word

kensutz

Good man!

RobitTV

Came across something from 9 years ago on boards.ie, about waterford airport about to close for good when euroceltic airline pulled out.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=675131

Look at waterford airport now, going strong!

calvin_zola

RobitTV wrote: »

Came across something from 9 years ago on boards.ie, about waterford airport about to close for good when euroceltic airline pulled out.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=675131

Look at waterford airport now, going strong!

yeah remember that! bad times!

tramoreman

found this on flybe to waterford route there is also someone in waterford news and star also

http://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/meta/news/2012/01/waterford-news-article.aspx

Flybe has announced its latest new route from Birmingham that offers daily flights to Waterford from March 25th, further expanding the airline’s schedule to a total choice of 23 routes and up to 610 flights a week from Birmingham Airport for Summer 2012. Tickets are on sale at www.flybe.com from £26.99 one way including taxes and charges.

The additional route is expected to benefit a mix of business and leisure passengers as the daily route offers easy access to Waterford, Ireland’s oldest city located on the country’s picturesque South East Coast.

Flybe’s Managing Director, Andrew Strong, comments: “Flybe is committed to developing our route network out of Birmingham and to keeping business and leisure travellers moving during these continued economically challenging times. “

Along with Waterford Airport - which is delighted to again have direct air access to ‘one of the best located airports in Britain’ and the UK’s second largest city - Martyn Lloyd, Air Services Development Director for Birmingham Airport says: “We’re delighted that Flybe will be operating a daily service from Birmingham to Waterford this summer. Waterford is a popular destination whether it is to visit the place famous for its Waterford Crystal or to walk around its beautiful 200 year old Cathedral. Flybe is one of our largest carriers, providing vital air connections to thousands of passengers each year from Birmingham and we wish them every success with the route.”

Adds Mr Strong: “The introduction of the new route between Birmingham and Waterford to our already extensive schedule for summer gives our passengers a large choice of affordable travel options and we look forward to operating our first flight to Waterford Later in the year.”

RobitTV

Just heard in the munster express today that the new route is waterford to edinburgh.

That's good enough i suppose.

Bards

RobitTV wrote: »

Just heard in the munster express today that the new route is waterford to edinburgh.

That's good enough i suppose.

are you sure it is not this sentence from the Waterford Airport Press Release

Flybe’s existing schedule at Birmingham allows for limited connections from Waterford to Paris, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dusseldorf in particular.

http://www.waterfordairport.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226&Itemid=200

tramoreman

flybes route is waterford to birmingham beginning in march

tankbarry

People think new routes are the answer.. When the summer destinations were here some years ago, they werent exactly ran at full capacity and never returned due to them not making business sense.

they werent ran at full capacity because the 146 they were using was not always at full capacity ie seats wise they mostly only had 92 seats on that aircraft. When titans airways used the 146 for 2 weeks they had 94 on a 98 seater aircraft. Thats not bad for a service that was not fully advertised for long.....

tankbarry

Forgot to add I know people still ring the airport before they book there summer holidays to see are the flights coming back. There is a demand there for the flights. If it was advertised well in advance it would sell well.

calvin_zola

tankbarry wrote: »

Forgot to add I know people still ring the airport before they book there summer holidays to see are the flights coming back. There is a demand there for the flights. If it was advertised well in advance it would sell well.

Yeah I think if they advertised these routes around November ppl from the region would plan their holidays around these airports

tramoreman

found the following on flybe website

waterford to birmingham beginning 25/03/2012
waterford to dusseldorf beginning 26/03/2012
waterford to edinburgh beginning 25/03/2012
waterford to glasgow (intl) beginning 25/03/2012
waterford to paris (cdg) beginning 25/03/2012

when choosing destinations these came up

Bards

tramoreman wrote: »

found the following on flybe website

waterford to birmingham beginning 25/03/2012
waterford to dusseldorf beginning 26/03/2012
waterford to edinburgh beginning 25/03/2012
waterford to glasgow (intl) beginning 25/03/2012
waterford to paris (cdg) beginning 25/03/2012

when choosing destinations these came up

Only direct flight will be Waterford to birmingham,all the others require changing at Birmingham