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Is the Thanks function really necessary?

  • 10-01-2012 11:48pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭


    I know the Thanks function is intended to give credit to those who make good posts but am I the only one who thinks that it's having a negative effect on the site rather than a positive one? I feel that it effects the quality of posting in a way. Some people seem to have an urge to post random crap, inside jokes and general smart-alec posts in order to get as many thumbs-up as possible instead of making a worthwhile contribution that actually deserves credit. It seems like a good idea in theory but it doesn't seem to work in practice.

    I visit a few other message boards and they function perfectly fine without a feature like this and have no desire to implement such a feature. What way do you guys see it?


    P.S. I know someone is going to thank this just to be smart ;)
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    It was brought in to stop loads of people from posting "+1/QFT/quoted for epic justice, etc" in response to stuff they agreed with. The in-jokes and random crap were always here. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    That makes some sense I guess. But it should be up to the mods to discourage posts like that instead of having to introduce a system like this ;) I don't mind a bit of random fun but I don't like when people overdo it and takes away from the whole point of a thread.

    It works on some sites and not on others I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Inane posts with regard to your ma, far preceded the introduction of thanks. as did lolcats and several other memes. Blasting people with piss is just what the new pubescent crowd came up with to help define their generation. It has little to do with thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    The bottom line is I don't think anyone should be dictating what people "should" be thanking or (barring forum charters) what makes a quality post, for that matter.

    I thank posts because they are a good point well made, a point I agree with, something that made me laugh, something I thought was quite clever or even an opposing point well made...and the small space that the thanks on even the post of the day gets is nothing compared to scrolling thru the reems of +1s, QFT's, etc to find any contributions worth reading...


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,359 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Thanks are very handy in something like the Spammer thread in this forum, as it indicates that an admin has seen the report and taken action where appropriate. So it serves as more than just a means of acknowledging posts you agree with, found interesting or amusing, etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The bottom line is I don't think anyone should be dictating what people "should" be thanking or (barring forum charters) what makes a quality post, for that matter.

    I thank posts because they are a good point well made, a point I agree with, something that made me laugh, something I thought was quite clever or even an opposing point well made...and the small space that the thanks on even the post of the day gets is nothing compared to scrolling thru the reems of +1s, QFT's, etc to find any contributions worth reading...
    ^This


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,640 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    ^This
    .

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I think there has been more soul-searching threads about Thanks than thnaked posts at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    The bottom line is I don't think anyone should be dictating what people "should" be thanking or (barring forum charters) what makes a quality post, for that matter.

    I thank posts because they are a good point well made, a point I agree with, something that made me laugh, something I thought was quite clever or even an opposing point well made...and the small space that the thanks on even the post of the day gets is nothing compared to scrolling thru the reems of +1s, QFT's, etc to find any contributions worth reading...
    ^This
    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭gemma188


    Would it not be a better idea to give a person the option of allowing thanks when they are originally creating a thread?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    Overheal wrote: »
    Originally Posted by El Weirdo View Post
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ickle Magoo View Post
    The bottom line is I don't think anyone should be dictating what people "should" be thanking or (barring forum charters) what makes a quality post, for that matter.

    I thank posts because they are a good point well made, a point I agree with, something that made me laugh, something I thought was quite clever or even an opposing point well made...and the small space that the thanks on even the post of the day gets is nothing compared to scrolling thru the reems of +1s, QFT's, etc to find any contributions worth reading...
    ^This
    +1
    +2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭OhMSGlive


    The bottom line is I don't think anyone should be dictating what people "should" be thanking or (barring forum charters) what makes a quality post, for that matter.

    I thank posts because they are a good point well made, a point I agree with, something that made me laugh, something I thought was quite clever or even an opposing point well made...and the small space that the thanks on even the post of the day gets is nothing compared to scrolling thru the reems of +1s, QFT's, etc to find any contributions worth reading...

    +2

    +3

    Not to be condescending or anything, OP, but do you see what we mean? This is taking up more room than the thanks bar underneath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    ^This
    OldGoat wrote: »
    .
    Overheal wrote: »
    +1
    +2
    OhMSGlive wrote: »
    +3

    I hate you all so much right now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,402 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Sarky wrote: »
    I hate you all so much right now.
    Would it help if you got that long awaited MS paint picture of (I think) a duck and hitler?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    ... Maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Well it's not as necessary as the 'search' function.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    A lot of disadvantages alright. However on balance I think its better having than not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    Could someone "thank" the OP on my behalf, please?

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Jemmaa


    Sarky wrote: »
    I hate you all so much right now.

    Didn't say +1 just thanked your post

    Apart showing respect or support "thanks" is a very useful tool for spotting interesting links so I can easily find em later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Without the thanks feature how is one expected to determine what is funny in the YLYL thread?


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Without the thanks feature how is one expected to determine what is funny in the YLYL thread?

    Go back 3 or 4 days on Reddit and see how the same pictures fared there. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭_AVALANCHE_


    Overheal wrote: »
    Inane posts with regard to your ma, far preceded the introduction of thanks. as did lolcats and several other memes. Blasting people with piss is just what the new pubescent crowd came up with to help define their generation. It has little to do with thanks
    "The Origins of Blasting People With Piss"

    A Steven Spielberg Film.:o:p




    Search results has The Master as first to say it, with Admiralofthefleet and Sykk seemingly having it as a shortcut on their keyboards for awhile after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    "The Origins of Blasting People With Piss"

    A Steven Spielberg Film.:o:p




    Search results has The Master as first to say it, with Admiralofthefleet and Sykk seemingly having it as a shortcut on their keyboards for awhile after.


    Lolcats..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Zero1986 wrote: »
    That makes some sense I guess. But it should be up to the mods to discourage posts like that instead of having to introduce a system like this
    Not really workable in AH, which in fairness is the only forum the stuff you speak about happens in - and was going on long, long before Thanks was introduced.
    People go on and on and on about thanks-whoring and I do wonder how much of that is actually happening or all in their heads. Why not just ignore what you perceive as thanks-whoring?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Dudess wrote: »
    People go on and on and on about thanks-whoring and I do wonder how much of that is actually happening or all in their heads.
    To be fair, it does go on. Hell, I'm as guilty of it as anyone.

    The thing is, when you take out the terminally dull and clichéd "yore ma" and "blast it with piss" posts, some of the wittiest and real laugh-out-loud posts on this site are those "thanks-whoring" first few posts in a thread on AH.

    Long may it continue, I say. And long may the thanks feature continue to enable me to show my appreciation for such posts.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Thanks whoring, Blasting with piss :eek:
    Surely the thanks function is one of the few features capable of inducing a good vibe?
    It's essential.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    i started reading this thread and found myself agreeing with the OP in their post, because i suppose where im coming from is that i frequent a lot of technology froums where the "reputation system" is used for upvoting helpful posts, but then as i read through this thread, i can see that a reputation system wouldn't work on boards... :o


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Zaph wrote: »
    Thanks are very handy in something like the Spammer thread in this forum, as it indicates that an admin has seen the report and taken action where appropriate.

    I use the Thanks for the above ALL the time, whither it's in the spammer thread or reported posts forum.
    It is indispensable and I don't believe we could do without it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    The thanks function can have a minor entertainment value. A poster thanked one of my posts; then he and I had a minor skirmish on a different thread; he removed his thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    The thanks function can have a minor entertainment value. A poster thanked one of my posts; then he and I had a minor skirmish on a different thread; he removed his thanks.

    Yeah, you also get the odd (in every sense of the word) lurkers who hang around forums they never post in to thank troll posts/posts that are infracted and the like...but in general, the positives far outweigh the negatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Is there still a limit on thanks or is that gone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭_AVALANCHE_


    Steve wrote: »
    Is there still a limit on thanks or is that gone?
    Start Thanking all my posts and see if it stops you.:)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    'Thanks whoring' - what next - 'You're welcome buggery'?
    I don't get this at all. Is the thanks option not simply an expression of goodwill/courtesy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭_AVALANCHE_


    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Been so many threads in FeedBack questioning the merit of the Thanks System.

    I've posted many a response to each thread and have done so AS someone who actively hates said system... But never said anything bad about it, ironically.

    Thanks Whoring? So what - There's little to no benefit from posting something riddled with Thanks apart from maybe the "Most Thanked" or "Thanked By" system on profiles.

    Some have made fun claims of the more "Sarcastic" or "Trolling" methods to thanking posts etc etc

    Personally I don't give a rats anus who thanked a post, why it was thanked or some such - Seeing a post with an immense eye-sore of an Orange Blob at the bottom of it (1000 Thanks) doesn't draw any added attention from me other than thinking it makes the post look like a right mess.

    At the end of the day it stops all the (Admittedly WORSE) "LOL", "+1", "kk", "Agree", "[Insert Other Useless 1-Word Response Here]" posts to something people just agree with... Considering there are new parameters on Boards where post-count may matter (Such as Sigs etc), then putting a stop to, or discouraging, spammy useless responses is beneficial.

    Me, personally, I wouldn't bat an eyelid if the system was nuked tomorrow for no worthwhile reason - I simply don't care for it.

    I rarely use it, myself, but when I do it is merely to thank someone, beit for posting something I myself was meaning to say (Or couldn't say better), for being helpful - Hell I'll thank a post from someone if they point out a flaw in my Moderation or making valid debate / points against me, regardless of wether I actually like or dislike the poster or the point being made.

    It's just 'handy', thats about it.

    Now, I estimate it'll be one month before we then get another "Well, why not a 'NO THANKS' Button" thread.

    *sigh*
    So to summarise this.....

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's rubbish but it's handy.:confused:

    Thank my post! sigh


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I just reposted a few pics from you laugh you lose back to reddit.

    Let's see how they like it.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Steve wrote: »
    Is there still a limit on thanks or is that gone?

    I was trying to figure out the other day if there had ever been a limit on thanks or if I was mixing it up with karma.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    RopeDrink wrote: »

    Personally I don't give a rats anus who thanked a post, why it was thanked or some such - Seeing a post with an immense eye-sore of an Orange Blob at the bottom of it (1000 Thanks) doesn't draw any added attention from me other than thinking it makes the post look like a right mess.

    Kind of like your username :pac: And orange? What kind of crazy skin has orange thankseses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭John mac


    whats QFT ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    John mac wrote: »
    whats QFT ?
    Quoted for truth.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    "Quoted for truth".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭John mac


    thanks.. 10 years on here and this is the first time i have come across it :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    What does 'quoted for truth' mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    slowburner wrote: »
    What does 'quoted for truth' mean?
    This.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    slowburner wrote: »
    What does 'quoted for truth' mean?

    It suggests that the quoted text contains a point of exemplary merit, rendering all arguments against it invalid, false, void.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    It suggests that the quoted text contains a point of exemplary merit, rendering all arguments against it invalid, false, void.
    Nicely put.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I used always think it meant 'quite ****ing true'. I still prefer that to 'quoted for truth' which just cockbaggery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    I was trying to figure out the other day if there had ever been a limit on thanks or if I was mixing it up with karma.
    It was limited to 20 per day when it was first introduced, that was increased at some point to maybe 50? per day, dunno, was just wondering if there are any current constraints, I'd be hard pressed to read 50 thankworthy posts in a day.
    It was (and still is afaik) limited to accounts that have more than 10 posts. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    I used always think it meant 'quite ****ing true'. I still prefer that to 'quoted for truth' which just cockbaggery.
    A new acronym: ARIV - arguments rendered invalid, void, false (shorter than 'quite ****ing true')
    Make up a statement, stick it in quotes, add ARIV to the end - you win the argument, indisputably.
    e.g.
    'Oliver Cromwell led the Irish navy in the first assault on Hadrian's wall in 1641' ARIV


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    slowburner wrote: »
    A new acronym: ARIV - arguments rendered invalid, void, false (shorter than 'quite ****ing true')
    Make up a statement, stick it in quotes, add ARIV to the end - you win the argument, indisputably.
    e.g.
    'Oliver Cromwell led the Irish navy in the first assault on Hadrian's wall in 1641' ARIV

    You're saying your own statement is invalid and void? :confused: Or is it like that ultimate mark of the jizzbundle: /thread ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    stovelid wrote: »
    I think there has been more soul-searching threads about Thanks than thnaked posts at this stage.

    yeah, right.


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