Applying For Sandhurst

Tybalt

neilled wrote: »

What he said. Passing AOSB basically gives you a no obligations "Admit One into Royal Military Academy Sandhurst" ticket from the date you pass, until you reach the upper age limit, provided you can still meet the physical requirements when you enter. So you could pass AOSB in 2012 and go in 2014 or 2015 if your still eligible to go.

Does this mean you can chose when you go to Sandhurst? Like wait until you finish your degree. I am currently in my 2nd of 3 years and would not wish to leave college unless it was for a cadetship in Ireland

OS119

Tybalt wrote: »

Does this mean you can chose when you go to Sandhurst? Like wait until you finish your degree. I am currently in my 2nd of 3 years and would not wish to leave college unless it was for a cadetship in Ireland

yes. lots of people get their ticket while at university, go off into the big world for a year and then decide to join - or not. september is usually the busiest intake, but apart from hat its up to you when/if you decide to take up the place - the only criteria is that you must be under the maximum age when you enter RMAS and that you must be in sufficiently good physical shape to undertake the course.

Tybalt

Thanks OS119.

Would anyone think that having a "ticket to Sandhurst" would have a negative effect on an application to the Irish Defence Forces?

goldie fish

Tybalt wrote: »

Thanks OS119.

Would anyone think that having a "ticket to Sandhurst" would have a negative effect on an application to the Irish Defence Forces?

None whatsoever.

OS119

Tybalt wrote: »

Thanks OS119.

Would anyone think that having a "ticket to Sandhurst" would have a negative effect on an application to the Irish Defence Forces?

i do, but not for a 'traditional' reason.

i'm not pisssing on anyones bonfire here, but were i sat on the Irish MB, this is what i'd think: do i believe that OCdt Tybalt is really going to be committed to spending 20 years with the IA doing CIT's into Limerick and fcuking about with sandbags whenever it rains when he has the chance to go to Afghanistan with a fighting Brigade and play with GMLRS, Warrior IFV's, Tornado GR4's, AH-64's and to cut about the Helmand desert with 30 of the finest soldiers on Gods green earth?

the answer, for anyone who has soldiering at the very core of their being, is no. so, am i going to waste an incredibly precious place on a bloke who either isn't going to turn up, or is going to turn up, but then sod off at the first opportunity because he's bored out of his skin? again, no.

now, that said, you tipping up and already having a ticket to RMAS shows that soldiering is something you really want to do, and that you're acceptable to an army thats fighting its tits off in Afghanistan, and has more candidates for RMAS than it knows what to do with - so thats a good mark on your sheet, but it also tells me that you might be looking for something the IA can't provide.

again, purely my opinion....

ChunkyLover_53

OS119 wrote: »

...and to cut about the Helmand desert with 30 of the finest soldiers on Gods green earth? ..

Ireland don't have 30 troops in Afghanistan, only 7 lads in a Combat Service Support role but cheers for compliment.

tac foley

...and may G*d bless them and keep them safe, but I don't think that the poster was actually talking about Irish troops.

tac

Tybalt

I was in contact with a recruitment officer today by email and think I am not eligible as I only have 3 Leaving Certificate honours and they look for 5, even though my total UCAS points would equal 183(Minimum is 180). Does anyone know if finishing a Level 8 degree make a difference or would I still need 5 honours? As I am still waiting on a reply from the recruitment Officer.

"- UK. The minimum UK educational qualifications for officer training are 35 ALIS Points from your 7 best GCSE subjects (these must include English Language, Maths and either a science subject or a foreign language at Grade C or above), and 180 UCAS Tariff points. These should normally include at least 2 x A2 qualifications (not including ‘General Studies’) at Grade E or above, and an AS Level subject not carried forward to A2 Level may be counted in the points total; BTECs/HNCs, etc, will be considered on an individual basis by the MOD.

- Ireland. For candidates who are being/were educated in Ireland, the acceptable minimum equivalent of the UK qualifications is 5 or more passes at Grades A-C in the Leaving Certificate at the Higher/Honours Level. Please note that these requirements are mandatory: unless you are still at school and in the process of studying for your exams, you will not be permitted to attend AOSB without them."

DipStick McSwindler

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The Master of Disaster

feeney92 wrote: »

This was my Question also!! been absolutly ****ting myself since i realised!! it doesnt make sense to have the points and then be refused on the honours grounds, i mean it says this for the requirements

"Plus 180 UCAS Tariff points acquired in separate subjects at AS and A level equivalent to include a minimum of 2 passes at A Level at grades A-E or equivalent. "

note the OR EQUIVALENT

surely it could not say this and then be different just for leaving cert? im highly confused at the moment also...........

Don't forget that in the UK they do less subjects at A-level (although in theory they go into more depth). I think that most people do 3/4 whereas here for the LC we do a minimum of 6 with most people taking 7/8 so they've taken that into account with the educational requirements.

Unfortunately I don't think that having a degree can compensate for your secondary school grades but don't be taking the word of strangers off the internet as gospel! The only way to know for sure is to get in touch with an official recruiting officer or whatnot and see what they say.

kellybus

I was the the ACIO in enniskillen yesterday, got 80 on my BARB and L2 Literacy and Numeracy.. My recruiting officer sent my details and score results on to <temp mod snip> and he emailed me today to have an interview with him.. I'm not sitting my leaving Cert until June, but I'm pretty sure the 5 honours is completely mandatory.. you can't go anywhere near an AOSB without them.

OS119

could you please amend your post to remove names, dates and units from the information you have provided.

if you were a serving soldier in NI, would you like your name splashed all over the internet on a Irish web-site filled with shinners and far worse?

if you are seriously considering joining the BA you will have to very quickly learn to engage your brain before opening your mouth and then deciding to keep your fcuking hole shut. you may recall - or get a grown-up to recall it for you- that in the last month or so a serious attempt was made on the life of a British soldier in Belfast who begged CIRA/RIRA/Whoever to kill him by telling everyone what he did for a living.

shut. the. fcuk. up.

Poccington

Lads, could we refrain from dishing out personal info on soldiers currently serving in NI?

There's still people up there who would gladly kill a British soldier if given the chance. So no more posting of names, Unit's etc. on here. Unless it's available in the public domain in terms of articles etc.

DipStick McSwindler

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KickstartHeart

Can Irish citizens join the Royal Marines as an officer?

bwatson

No, British or dual citizenship is required.

neilled

Poccington wrote: »

Lads, could we refrain from dishing out personal info on soldiers currently serving in NI?

There's still people up there who would gladly kill a British soldier if given the chance. So no more posting of names, Unit's etc. on here. Unless it's available in the public domain in terms of articles etc.

The gent in question is actually retired, however the point made still stands. Nice enough chap, but definitely pushed the gunners over other units I felt.

DipStick McSwindler

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KickstartHeart

bwatson wrote: »

No, British citizenship is required.

Answers to all questions asked in this thread are easily accessible on the Royal Marines and British Army website anyway. Just go through the MoD home page and find out basic stuff like this yourself. Added, 2 or 3 people have asked from every role from the Marines to the Royal Irish. You want to be Officer class, show some initiative and conviction.

Initiative? Since I have other work to do, and I don't particularly care if Irish people can become Royal Marines officers or not, I am just curious, the obvious initiative to take would be to quickly just post on a thread here while I am reading it anyway, rather than going to look for the royal marines website on my very very slow internet and finding the page with the info, where here someone can just answer in their own time. That is obviously initiative Don't lecture me. You don't know me as a person. Not being offensive or anything mate ..Just not nice to come on and assume someone is not 'officer class' and has no initiative.

bwatson

feeney92 wrote: »

This is actually a topic thats confusing a lot of people, i was in contact with patrick bury and he recommended to me the royal marines, surely he wouldnt have if i couldnt apply? Also i found this http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110727001728AA3iJII

I think your best bet would to ask one of the recruiting offices, im going onto the RM fb page now and see what i can find out cos im interested to

You can apply to the Royal Marines, but you cannot apply to become an officer.

KickstartHeart

Ok, bwatson, why don't you stop putting people down for asking questions on a forum?

bwatson

KickstartHeart wrote: »

Ok, bwatson, why don't you stop putting people down for asking questions on a forum?

I didn't put him down - I told him that he is better off looking on the Royal Marines website than Yahoo answers if he is looking for a reliable, definitive answer to his question and an end to the confusion. You really think that is putting someone down?

Good luck in the Royal Marines/British Army (in 3 to 4 years time should you pass AOSB)/the RDF/the PDF/the French Foreign Legion/whatever other armed force you decide on.

KickstartHeart

bwatson wrote: »

I didn't put him down - I told him that he is better off looking on the Royal Marines website than Yahoo answers if he is looking for a reliable, definitive answer to his question and an end to the confusion. You really think that is putting someone down? I then proceeded to provide the link and even the quote from the website which answered the question he proposed.

Good luck in the Royal Marines/British Army (in 3 to 4 years time should you pass AOSB)/the RDF/the PDF/the French Foreign Legion/whatever other armed force you decide on.

I didn't notice that Neilled had put a link to a yahoo answers page in his post. I genuinely thought you were just being smart with him when you referred to yahoo. Seriously sorry about jumping the gun man its my fault that I missed that. Hope we don't fall out on this site in the future.

neilled

KickstartHeart wrote: »

I didn't notice that Neilled had put a link to a yahoo answers page in his post. I genuinely thought you were just being smart with him when you referred to yahoo. Seriously sorry about jumping the gun man its my fault that I missed that. Hope we don't fall out on this site in the future.

Sorry Old Chap, you won't find me referring to yahoo answers pages in any of my posts I'm afraid. If and when you choose to go down the commissioned route you'll find out that you have to do alot of digging yourself to get the information you need in order to pass whatever board that screens potential officers no matter what country it is. If you get out the other side it will be the same and ignorance will not be an excuse.

DipStick McSwindler

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KickstartHeart

neilled wrote: »

Sorry Old Chap, you won't find me referring to yahoo answers pages in any of my posts I'm afraid. If and when you choose to go down the commissioned route you'll find out that you have to do alot of digging yourself to get the information you need in order to pass whatever board that screens potential officers no matter what country it is. If you get out the other side it will be the same and ignorance will not be an excuse.

Thanks. I do understand that though. I think for now though while I'm a civvi I can get away with a bit of laziness, and just ask someone else on boards.ie haha.

KickstartHeart

feeney92 wrote: »

lads stop with the immature bickering and start acting like grown ups, its a forum to ask questions and talk we dont need trolls........

Fair point. Sorry for being a twit.

RMD

Perfectly right in asking questions but I'm somewhat in agreement with Bwatson to be fair. Lads you're considering positions where you will have to lead men in potentially life threatening situations yet you aren't willing to put in the time to search 2 easily navigable sites for short concise answers. If it was a question where the info isn't easily found I'd understand but those questions are something which can be answered very quickly (and correctly) without the ever running risk here of the Republicans kicking up a anti-BA trolling storm or the risk of incorrect / ignorant answers.

Thank christ you didn't post on Arrse, they'd have you by the balls at this stage :pac:

tac foley

neilled wrote: »

The gent in question is actually retired, however the point made still stands. Nice enough chap, but definitely pushed the gunners over other units I felt.

Gunners do that. Just the way gunners are - it's nothing personal, but when you are a soldier in the very oldest part of the British Army you tend to get a mite cliquey and uppity that anybody could possibly want to do anything else other than fire big bullets.

Even the Master Gunner - a Major-General - is still 'only' a gunner.

tac

A.Tomas

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