It's On, Common V Drake

Hugh Cream

Drake subliminal but obvious jab at Common.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_10tfbfO94

Common's reply, nothing subliminal about this, calling out names.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Ck6fRamnY

Better quality, about 3.20 in.
http://rapradar.com/2012/01/09/new-music-common-stay-schemin-drake-diss/


Could get interesting this.

Mr. Rager

You're forgetting what started it all however:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYoT8yTG7aY

Boom_Bap

Comment from J-Zone on FaceBook

J-Zone


Drake-Common beef is generational and pointless. Drake fans will call Common old. Common fans will call Drake soft. Duke it out in Scrabble & call it a day.

conor.hogan.2

I liked the Common line imitating Drake on the "catch a body like that", of course Drake will stay submlimal but all in all kind of pointless.

Whats next JB taking shots at Ice Cube?

Sweet may have been about Drake, but the fact he took that line to heart is funny as it is very subliminal and it could have been about plenty of people but people immediately thought Drake after "soft" and singing came up.

Hugh Cream

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Comment from J-Zone on FaceBook

J-Zone


Drake-Common  beef is generational and pointless. Drake fans will  call Common old.  Common fans will call Drake soft. Duke it out in  Scrabble & call it a  day.

hopefully people say neither, hopefully people dont pick sides, hopefully it stays on wax.

personally i dont see the harm, hopefully drake replies and proves some people wrong, a good old diss battle should be enjoyed rather than scorned upon, if kept on record.

Bobby Baccala

I've picked my side anyway, the real rappers side.

Mr. Rager

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I liked the Common line imitating Drake on the "catch a body like that", of course Drake will stay submlimal but all in all kind of pointless.

Whats next JB taking shots at Ice Cube?

Sweet may have been about Drake, but the fact he took that line to heart is funny as it is very subliminal and it could have been about plenty of people but people immediately thought Drake after "soft" and singing came up.

Taken from DigitalSpy.ie:

Common has confessed that a jibe made in his track 'Sweet' is directed towards Drake.

In the track, Common raps "Singing all around me man, la la la", a jibe referring to Drake's vocal stylings on his own music.

Asked about the motivation behind the lyrics, Common told MTV News: "He opened his mouth and said some things, so if that's what he wants - all that subliminal [talk]…you could do that too, but say it now.

"The verse is about me but when you hear some of the stuff on the chorus it's like you can't help but think about [the] dude and I guess that's what he felt. So at the end of day he fits in that category, he already embraced it, so wear it."

However, Common went on to say that he can recognise Drake's talent, adding: "He's a very successful artist obviously and like I said, he's a talented artist too - I give credit where it's due."

conor.hogan.2

I would be very surprised if Drake came straight out and did not try to subliminally try to lullaby Common to death.

Well yes mention singing, sweet and rap and we all immediately think Drake but it is funny Drake jumped to the conclusion too especially with the "sweet" jibe.

Mr. Rager

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I would be very surprised if Drake came straight out and did not try to subliminally try to lullaby Common to death.

Well yes mention singing, sweet and rap and we all immediately think Drake but it is funny Drake jumped to the conclusion too especially with the "sweet" jibe.

"Singing all around me man, la la la"

Who else could this by apart from Drake? Maybe Kanye, but Common and him are tight.

conor.hogan.2

Lots of people who should not be rapping rapping recently, most of them are mainly singers.

JB, Chris Brown and others who I do not know but there is a lot of them and many with a decent size buzz.
Neyo, trey songz and more from google.

But as I said, everyone thinks Drake.

Boom_Bap

mufcboy1999

i cant wait too see what drake comes with on his own, like common said dont hide behind those other niggas, man to man.

drakes going to get ruined, he is not capable or talented enough as an mc to consistently trade verses with common.

I give drake 1 song after that its writers block, out with the blackberry and rap his old lryics .

i can see drake calling in some back up at some point, common has hopefully luda to collab with and if that happens its over.

but i have a feeling drake wont even reply and a middle party will step in and squash it on some uncle snoop like sh*t:D.

Hugh Cream

only because everyone seems so against drake id like to see him hold his own.

mufcboy1999

Hugh Cream wrote: »

only because everyone seems so against drake id like to see him hold his own.

drake got all those teeny boppers in his corner + the fact common is a legend man and makes real hip hop music that is my reason.

PrettyBoy

Common really went in, will be interested in hearing Drake's response..

Fourteen

I don't have a problem with Drake like a lot of people do, but why doesn't he just stay in his lane? Are people supposed to believe he's hard all of a sudden? Getting involved in this kind of shit can be just counter-productive, like when Ja went from selling with his own style to being ignored after the 50 beef.

Drake kind of tests people's patience though, even with stuff like saying Jay and Kanye were "two other rappers" who stole his idea with Watch the Throne. Drake needs to stfu and stay in his lane, that's all.

Hugh Cream

Common won this round though, only because he went straight for the jugular and named names, his verse wasnt better than drakes or anything.

Paully D

I like Drake, but seriously, why bother with this? He's doing very well doing what he's doing. Common will hand his ass to him.

Jimmy Iovine

Paully D wrote: »

I like Drake, but seriously, why bother with this? He's doing very well doing what he's doing. Common will hand his ass to him.

I think he's doing it to try and show that he can live with the big boys. He hasn't a hope of coming out on top of this. I'd say he'll stay in it as long as he can before getting out.

Someone will probably be writing his lines. Just as Drake is ready to be handed his ass some other hip hop legend will step in and separate the two of them. They'll come to an agreement and Drake will come out looking like a hero that lasted 5 rounds with the heavyweight champ of the world. Essentially it'll all be a big front and his street cred will rise off the back of it.

Of course I hope I'm completely wrong and none of that happens and Common simply destroys Drake. Drake isn't anywhere in the same class as Common. It's mind boggling as to why he'd want to take this on at all. It's a lose-lose situation for him.

PrettyBoy

Am I wrong in thinking this all started with Common talking about Drake on 'Sweet' (ie. Common started this himself, Drake didn't provoke him)? Or did Drake say something subliminal about Common first?

If it was the shots on 'Sweet' that started this then I can understand why Drake responded, it's not as if he thinks he's going up against a nobody, he did call Common a "God"...

Boom_Bap

As far as I know, it;s from the comments in Sweet.

My opinion is that this has materialised from label executives. Think about it. Common releases Sweet, some people think that its a shot at Drake. Common denies.
A minute later, Common is confirming as it got a bit of attention.
Drake responds and so on and so forth.

Has all the signs of being manufactured to be honest.

Unless there was somethign that really kicked a beef off, but i'm sure that would be in the public eye by now.

Remember....both have just recently released albums......nothing like a bit of controversy to sell some more units.

Hugh Cream

In all fairness the only person in need of help selling records is common, this won't push drakes numbers up.

Boom_Bap

Hugh Cream wrote: »

In all fairness the only person in need of help selling records is common, this won't push drakes numbers up.

Do you think he or anyone in his camp would complain if his numbers were pushed up?

Shapey Fiend

A lot of 'rap beefs' are manufactured. Kanye and 50 had the same agent. So did Kanye and Taylor Swift.

This beef has been soft as fcuk. They should drop it since neither are any good at writing disses. Nobody is going to win it'll just be..

Drake fans: **** Common! He's old, and he had his time! No one's checking for him! Stick to acting!

Common fans: **** Drake! Can't rap for ****, and he's always singing! Stick to acting!

Hugh Cream

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Do you think he or anyone in his camp would complain if his numbers were pushed up?

I dont suppose they would, but the point remains, if we're gonna go down the route of assuming this will be good for numbers, the only person whose numbers may increase would be commons.

Although personally I feel that's a good thing, if people feel like spending money on either after this it more than likely means it was entertaining.
Which is really what it should be.

mufcboy1999

I'm just delighted we have some battling that hopefully will not only entertain us but give us some good music.

There literally hasnt been a beef I was interested in since 50 v Ross, I taught something would of stemmed from ludacris replying to drake and big Sean but common has now stepped in so it's all good.

If you ask me battling has been missing the last few years probally due to the watered down nature of most new mc's.

PrettyBoy

Really don't think this is going to amount to much at all, neither of them are the beefing type, the tough acts don't suit either of them IMO.

What's Drake going to do if he does happen to run into Common? What's Common going to do if Drake does say his name on a track?

Not expecting much else to happen tbh.

Bobby Baccala

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Really don't think this is going to amount to much at all, neither of them are the beefing type, the tough acts don't suit either of them IMO.

What's Drake going to does happen to run into Common? What's Common going to do if Drake does say his name on a track?

Not expecting much else to happen tbh.

The beefing type? did you here commons response to westside slaughterhouse?
As much as I love ice cube I have to admit he was destroyed on that song.

conor.hogan.2

Personally if I want some "battles" I will watch kotd, grindtime or dont flop.

Should be interesting to see what drake comes out with though.

Da Shins Kelly

In what world is Drake even a patch on Common?

PrettyBoy

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

The beefing type? did you here commons response to westside slaughterhouse?

I know Common can hold his own when it comes to beefing, but IMO it just doesn't suit him. He's got a kind of nice guy image, he's not "gangsta", he's nothing like a Tupac, 50 Cent, Game, etc type character who acts tough, thrives off beef and baits other rappers into feuds. I don't know, he just comes across as a guy that wouldn't normally look for trouble IMO. Kind of surprised he was the one to take a shot first but I guess he does have an album to promote...

Sl!mCharles

yeah I agree with that, it seems kind of below Common.

mufcboy1999

bollox posted this on wrong thread:)

birdmans view on it. young money soldiers ready to roll:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVlk_-8kIak

PrettyBoy

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

bollox posted this on wrong thread:)

birdmans view on it. young money soldiers ready to roll:cool:

Doubt Wayne, Birdman or anyone else will get involved. Of course they'll support Drake, goes without saying, but unless Common starts taking shots at everyone from YMCMB then it'll stay between the two of them.

mufcboy1999

i think its safe to say drake has pus*yed out of this battle, he cant be given any longer to reply, he is clearly untalented as far as battling/rapping goes so he has to drop this tough man image he trys to portray.

i also heard a story drake said he was going to fu*k up a tattoo artist for tattooing his name on a women, the tattoo artist challenged him to a fight and drake sent his 200 lbs + bodyguard to threaten him lol.

this whole young money/mayback click are comical at the best of times.

common talks about his group g.o.o.d music getting involved if young money do.

Common called into WGCI's Tony Sculfield & The Morning Riot Show today to discuss his ongoing between himself and Drake. Tony asked him about Birdman's comments regarding the situation.

"Drake's the homie, so we ride or die," Birdman told Big Boy's Neighborhood last week. "However the young homie deal with it we behind him 100% supporting him with our life. It's Drake or nothing."

Common responded by saying he has a team of his own he can call up in G.O.O.D Music.

"If it ever got to like teaming up I'll get my squad too," Common told Tony. "You can't forget G.O.O.D Music, Kanye and the brothers, but like i told him [Drake] on the record it's just man to man, one on one. We in the boxing ring as MC's."

Tony reminded Common that a lof of fans will automatically side with Drake because YMCMB is the "cool thing" right now.

"I think you're gonna have that crowd too and then you're gonna have a crowd that sometimes may be into what's going on right now," Common said. "They like, 'hold up, wait.' They gonna recognize as far as rhyming goes whoever is slashing whoever. Whoever is winning they got to recognize it."

So far the battle is one sided because Drake hasn't responded to Common's "Stay Schemin" diss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGX7EGFx-8w

Hugh Cream

I hope drake responds, he should, I know I'm in the minority here but I guarantee he would more than hold his own as common is not as great as people would have you believe, his own response was weak.
But it does look like he's not responding, pity really.

PrettyBoy

This whole "beef" between Common and Drake has been pretty tragic IMO, I found it hard to stay in any way interested. No surprise that Drake didn't respond and no surprise that Common is done with it and ready to move on, Zzzzzzzzzz...

Common Says He "Likes Drake's Music," Is Ready To Move On From Beef

Common and Drake have been trading disses over the past few months, most recently culminating with a scathing track aimed at Drizzy on a remix to Rick Ross’ “Stay Schemin.” But in an interview with RollingStone.com, Com says that he actually enjoys the Young Money rapper’s music and refers to it as “clever.”

“I think he makes good music," he said. "He's definitely said some real clever things and made some cool songs. I like his music."

Despite their heated war of words, Common says he’s ready to move on from the beef. The Chicago, Illinois explains that he’s expressed everything he feels he needs to say in the situation.

"I feel like I said what I had to say, and I'm just going to let it be at that point," he said. "Now, if something else happens, then I'll just have to act accordingly. But right now, I feel like, man, I said what I needed to say about this situation on record."

LINK: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.18363/title.common-says-he-likes-drakes-music-is-ready-to-move-on-from-beef

Hugh Cream

To me that pretty much proves what I've always known, that is, the only people taking stuff like this TOO serious is the hip hop forum users.
The people involved take it for what it is, the fans get emotional.

mufcboy1999

Hugh Cream wrote: »

I hope drake responds, he should, I know I'm in the minority here but I guarantee he would more than hold his own as common is not as great as people would have you believe, his own response was weak.
But it does look like he's not responding, pity really.

i honestly don't know how you can stand behind such a poor mc, he's proved time and time again he is a weak rapper he is just industry to the bone, he's more a pop and r'n'b star than a rapper.

I know your a fan of his but i see you slate other rappers man that are head and shoulders above drake, he is what you call a over rated rapper to the last letter of the law he is the best example out there of one.

the fact common responded pretty much straight away shows to me more than a step above drake as a rapper, the more i hear about drake the more i think he is a clown and tbh a little bi*ch, i say that tattoo artist would knock him out but back to the music front the man cant even come back with a reply and at this point even if he does he doesn't deserve much credit imo as its what 3 - 4 weeks and counting since common replied.

To me that pretty much proves what I've always known, that is, the only people taking stuff like this TOO serious is the hip hop forum users.
The people involved take it for what it is, the fans get emotional.

same with any beef man, the fans pick sides its more than likely always going to happen, its very hard for a hip hop fan to stay 100 per cent neutral your always going to lean towards one rapper a bit more, something will happen in a rap beef that pushes you to favor one a bit more i.e whoever has the best music, disses etc in most cases their has to be a winner and the only people that can judge that are the fans.

but thats 2 mc's drake has backed down from now both common and ludacris, he should stick to the singing and bubblegum music he is known for, he is not capable of a freestyle and for me is all the indication i need to prove he is a useless rapper.

This whole "beef" between Common and Drake has been pretty tragic IMO, I found it hard to stay in any way interested. No surprise that Drake didn't respond and no surprise that Common is done with it and ready to move on, Zzzzzzzzzz...

true but in fairness theirs only 1 man to blame for making it tragic, i think common relies its a waste of time now with drake showing his true colors.

just seen this on drake's twitter

@drakkernoir: #YouKnowTheyCallMe a b*tch cause i sing....#YouKnowTheyCallMe that so they can get more album sales. BUT, common b*tches dont get replies."

whatever that means, he's mouthing of but cant reply with music.

Bobby Baccala

@drakkernoir: #YouKnowTheyCallMe a b*tch cause i sing....#YouKnowTheyCallMe that so they can get more album sales. BUT, common b*tches dont get replies."
whatever that means, he's mouthing of but cant reply with music.

Yeah that's definitely a shot at common anyway, The beef is more or less squashed at the moment I can't see drake replying and to do so would be retarded, common would, and I quote what joe budden said about meth, "lyrically cut his head off his shoulders".

Jimmy Iovine

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

just seen this on drake's twitter

@drakkernoir: #YouKnowTheyCallMe a b*tch cause i sing....#YouKnowTheyCallMe that so they can get more album sales. BUT, common b*tches dont get replies."

whatever that means, he's mouthing of but cant reply with music.

That's not Drake's Twitter at all. The tweet just before it is

Teacher: I am beautiful. What tense is this? Student: obviously past.

All the major people on it have a turquoise tick beside their name to verify that it's their account. Don't believe a word that is said on any of them other ones. Here's Drake's actual account https://twitter.com/#!/Drake. It's pretty shít and he has no mentions at all of Common on it.

PrettyBoy

3 - 4 weeks and counting since common replied.

Well, Common's remix of 'Stay Schemin' was released on January 9th, 11 days ago. That was the most recent response but I doubt we'll hear anything from Drake anytime soon.

true but in fairness theirs only 1 man to blame for making it tragic, i think common relies its a waste of time now with drake showing his true colors.

In fairness, Common took shots at Drake first and it's blatantly obvious that he did it purely to promote/draw attention to his album release. Drake isn't the beefing type and the same goes for Common, nothing about this whole stunt felt right. Common beefing with Drake is like J.Cole beefing with Pharrell. Absolutely pointless, completely out of character and not particularly interesting.

I was surprised that Drake responded in the first place. For some reason I believe that he has (had?) a lot of respect for Common and he really wasn't expecting him, of all people, to go at him for no reason. I think the response was purely out of anger and that Drake really never wanted any beef. Don't expect another response anyway...

"Without a response from me you really fail to exist"

Mr. Rager

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Yeah that's definitely a shot at common anyway, The beef is more or less squashed at the moment I can't see drake replying and to do so would be retarded, common would, and I quote what joe budden said about meth, "lyrically cut his head off his shoulders".

Wait..so if he doesn't reply he's a pus*y, but if he does he's retarded?

So what is he supposed to do

happydayz182

"Diss me and you'll never hear a reply for it," Drake -Succesfull

Bobby Baccala

fjsanchez wrote: »

Wait..so if he doesn't reply he's a pus*y, but if he does he's retarded?

So what is he supposed to do

Where did I call him a pussy for not replying

mufcboy1999

happydayz182 wrote: »

"Diss me and you'll never hear a reply for it," Drake -Succesfull

But drake has already replied .....

That line right there shows how much of a bubblegum rapper/person he is, I wouldn't have a problem with it if he didn't try to act so tough.

PrettyBoy

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Where did I call him a pussy for not replying

You didn't, but have a look through a few hip-hop message boards and you'll see that's what a lot of people think.

mufcboy1999

PrettyBoy wrote: »

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Where did I call him a pussy for not replying

You didn't, but have a look through a few hip-hop message boards and you'll see that's what a lot of people think.

You can't blame people for thinking this about him, the latest stunt with the tattoo artist is more indication he is a pussy.

Backed down from Luda and now common, the mans a bit*h IMO. As said before he isn't a battle like rapper fair enough in that case don't diss Luda or reply to common or act like he is a gangsta next to another wanna be gangsta officer Ross, also sending out threats saying he is going to fu*k up the tattoo artist when he sees him only to send his bodyguard around tbh man he is a pussy IMO.

Hugh Cream

Theres a difference between picking sides and becoming emotionally invested in it.

mufcboy1999

common had a questions and answers session with his fans when someone asked to drop a freestyle yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNtHU8VICyA

the only person id fancy drake to hold his own against would be vanilla ice, i think your actually brainwashed from being a fan into thinking this fela is a good rapper honestly man you cant call the likes of wu tang and big pun over rated and turn around and gaurntee us drake would hold his own against common. makes zero sense .:)

meanwhile drake turns up to westwood knowing he will have to spit a freestyle, with the aid of rapping lryics from his previous songs he still cant, this is who your backing hugh, im very surprised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-f46UYRzV8

conor.hogan.2

He probably would not hold his own against vanilla ice either. He was apparently very much a good rapper before he signed that deal and released ice ice baby and did the dancing etc.