What can we do to solve the Romani gypsy problem?

HovaBaby

Ever since we opened our borders to Romania they have come over and just robbed, begged and claimed money. How can we sort this out?

I like what President Sarkozy of France did when he said "Damn the legislation, i'm deporting straight away." He has done this, but they had to be given €200 each when leaving. They use this money to travel back into Europe again. It is obvious they are just a virus on the map. None of them work, and now because of their reputation none of them would get a job anyways. (the small 0.01% that would like to work legitimately here) It baffles the mind.

Here is a good article on the current situation in France. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16428195

Pedro K

Kill it with fire.

Logical Fallacy

I'd be all for a bit of genocide.
























Of people who start threads about Roma gypsies.

recylingbin

I don't understand why they;ve suddenly decided that my windscreen is clean enough.

holystungun9

There must be some sort of cream for it.

oldyouth

Give them as much money as we can and leave our front doors unlocked.

Biggins

Turn the TV off?

stovelid

Get them to work in Dixons.

They need slaves at the minute, I hear.

TheZohanS

From the poster who brought us the following threads:

It annoys me how Fianna Failure are rooting for the working man all of a sudden

What does the world "Fat" mean to you?

How many single mothers IYO fit the stereotypical single mothers image?

Reminds me of a RHCP song...

Nothingbetter2d

Simply STOP giving them money when they beg.... instead tell them that you know they are not homeless (there is a house full of them in phibsborough on the North Circular Road) and that they even get welfare from the state (cos ive seen them queuing in the dole offices on signing day a few times).

WindSock

Take their jobs?

gsxr1

HovaBaby wrote: »

Ever since we opened our borders to Romania they have come over and just robbed, begged and claimed money. How can we sort this out?

I like what President Sarkozy of France did when he said "Damn the legislation, i'm deporting straight away." He has done this, but they had to be given €200 each when leaving. They use this money to travel back into Europe again. It is obvious they are just a virus on the map. None of them work, and now because of their reputation none of them would get a job anyways. (the small 0.01% that would like to work legitimately here) It baffles the mind.

Here is a good article on the current situation in France. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16428195

Have you a link to prove this figure?

I know a few Romanian family's, both home owners, and with a very impressive educational background. Both family's make a good living here and contribute like everyone else who works.

I think that tarring all the Romanians with the same brush, would be the same as calling all Irish in England , Travellers. Which is untrue.

recylingbin

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

Simply STOP giving them money when they beg.... instead tell them that you know they are not homeless (there is a house full of them in phibsborough on the North Circular Road) and that they even get welfare from the state (cos ive seen them queuing in the dole offices on signing day a few times).

They can't all be living there

















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stovelid

Maybe a forcible gold tooth extraction scheme implemented at border control would raise some revenue for the country?

aidoh

It'll be grand.

ejmaztec

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?





No offence.

stovelid

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?

Exactly - what about the Italian ones?

Duggy747

Put a curse on them

novarock

Roma Gypsies and Romanians are not the same thing..

Auvers

gsxr1 wrote: »

Have you a link to prove this figure?

I know a few Romanian family's, both home owners, and with a very impressive educational background. Both family's make a good living here and contribute like everyone else who works.

I think that tarring all the Romanians with the same brush, would be the same as calling all Irish in England , Travellers. Which is untrue.

Roma are not indigenous to Romania, please try to educate yourself on the differences

just ask your Romanian friends about their opinion on the Roma.

question for any of you bleeding heart liberals, have never heard one good thing said about the Roma?

El Weirdo

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?

^This.

ejmaztec

novarock wrote: »

Roma Gypsies and Romanians are not the same thing..

That has to be explained about fifty times in every racist thread on the subject.:eek:

Chuck Stone

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?

No offence.

novarock wrote: »

Roma Gypsies and Romanians are not the same thing..

These.

If people can't even inform themselves to this level about the Roma folk then they should probably just STFU.

Offence intended.

gutenberg

gsxr1 wrote: »

Have you a link to prove this figure?

I know a few Romanian family's, both home owners, and with a very impressive educational background. Both family's make a good living here and contribute like everyone else who works.

I think that tarring all the Romanians with the same brush, would be the same as calling all Irish in England , Travellers. Which is untrue.

There is a difference between Romanians and Roma gypsies. The latter are a separate ethnic group (IIRC), and it just so happens that a lot of them are from Romania - if you read the BBC article the OP linked, it mentions that there are also communities in Hungary & the Czech Republic, among others. Most Romanians have a similar attitude to them as the OP, that is, not friendly. The families you know are likely Romanian, but not Roma gypsy.

Lumbo

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?

The lad who owns my local Roma comes from Turin.

HovaBaby

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?





No offence.

"In fact, research shows that most of those residing in France are from Romania - not Hungary, Poland, or the Czech Republic where there are sizeable Roma populations."

From the BBC article in the OP. Not all Roma gypsies are from Romania, but i'd bet my coin that nine tenth's of them are.

lastlaugh

novarock wrote: »

Roma Gypsies and Romanians are not the same thing..

Pull the other one will ye?

peckerhead

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3288/2961175776_b341ca0fc5.jpg

Benny_Cake

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?





No offence.

Hey, we're moving on, back in the 90s most people here seemed to think that Roma and Bosnians were effectively one and the same thing.

Oh, and OP - a really silly post. Offence intended.

Noopti

HovaBaby wrote: »

"In fact, research shows that most of those residing in France are from Romania - not Hungary, Poland, or the Czech Republic where there are sizeable Roma populations."

From the BBC article in the OP. Not all Roma gypsies are from Romania, but i'd bet my coin that nine tenth's of them are.

You realise that doesn't disprove his argument, don't you?

gutenberg

HovaBaby wrote: »

"In fact, research shows that most of those residing in France are from Romania - not Hungary, Poland, or the Czech Republic where there are sizeable Roma populations."

From the BBC article in the OP. Not all Roma gypsies are from Romania, but i'd bet my coin that nine tenth's of them are.

Does it really make that much difference? No one wants them, even Romania, despite being citizens...

Toby Take a Bow

Auvers wrote: »

question for any of you bleeding heart liberals, have never heard one good thing said about the Roma?

There ya go.

Nodin

HovaBaby wrote: »

Ever since we opened our borders to Romania they have come over and just robbed, begged and claimed money. How can we sort this out?
......

Tuck your strides into your boots.

HovaBaby

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why don't people get it into their thick heads that not all Roma come from Romania?





No offence.

I'm not taking aim at your statement directly, but where do they come from? Or are you dim-witted enough to say not all Roma (*gypsies*) come from Romania but then not know where they came from?

No offence.

Chuck Stone

Noopti wrote: »

You realise that doesn't disprove his argument, don't you?

I don't think so somehow.

Mild annoyance intended.

HovaBaby

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

There ya go.

Give this poster a medal!

gutenberg

HovaBaby wrote: »

I'm not taking aim at your statement directly, but where do they come from? Or are you dim-witted enough to say not all Roma (*gypsies*) come from Romania but then not know where they came from?

No offence.

They are an ethnic group with their origins in northern India, who migrated to Europe in the Middle Ages (I think). So they're not descended from groups such as the Goths, Saxons etc as most European nations are, including Romanians. So while they live in Romania, they are *not* Romanian in the sense that most Romanians would agree on.

DrumSteve

This wouldn't happen if Hitler was still here, I tells you.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Hear the one about Klu Klux Kenevil?...

He's gonna try jump over 50 thousand Roma beggars in a steamroller

ejmaztec

HovaBaby wrote: »

I'm not taking aim at your statement directly, but where do they come from? Or are you dim-witted enough to say not all Roma (*gypsies*) come from Romania but then not know where they came from?

No offence.

Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia etc etc etc etc


No need to get offensive because you made a mistake.:P

Noopti

HovaBaby wrote: »

What can we do to solve the Romani gypsy question?

FYP

gutenberg

gutenberg wrote: »

They are an ethnic group with their origins in northern India, who migrated to Europe in the Middle Ages (I think). So they're not descended from groups such as the Goths,

Oh dont get started on the Goths, they couldnt even be arsed to beg.

HovaBaby

gutenberg wrote: »

They are an ethnic group with their origins in northern India, who migrated to Europe in the Middle Ages (I think). So they're not descended from groups such as the Goths, Saxons etc as most European nations are, including Romanians. So while they live in Romania, they are *not* Romanian in the sense that most Romanians would agree on.

I never claimied they were Romanian. In the topic title I said "Romani gypsy".

Benny_Cake

gutenberg wrote: »

HovaBaby wrote: »

I'm not taking aim at your statement directly, but where do they come from? Or are you dim-witted enough to say not all Roma (*gypsies*) come from Romania but then not know where they came from?

No offence.

They are an ethnic group with their origins in northern India, who migrated to Europe in the Middle Ages (I think). So they're not descended from groups such as the Goths, Saxons etc as most European nations are, including Romanians. So while they live in Romania, they are *not* Romanian in the sense that most Romanians would agree on.

Romania is a muti-ethnic country with a large Hungarian minority, along with minorities of Germans and other groups. These minorities might not be considered Romania by ethnic Romanians but in every way that matters, they are Romanians. The same goes for those Roma who live in Romania.

happyfish

Auvers wrote: »

question for any of you bleeding heart liberals, have never heard one good thing said about the Roma?

http://www.yelp.ie/biz/roma-take-away-rathfarnham

I am pie

Having been to Romania with work a few times i can tell you that the locals don't like these people too much and i can also say that they are treated as a distinct ethnic group and completed on the fringes of Romanian society, at least in Bucharest.

Complaining about Romanians when you mean gypsies is about as intelligent as complaining about the Irish based on a few bad experiences with travellers with irish accents.

In terms of what to do with them, well, it would seem to me that if people stopped giving them money and ignored them they might well go away. If they are claiming benefits illegally then the state should prevent them from doing so.

gutenberg

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh dont get started on the Goths, they couldnt even be arsed to beg.

Given their Germanic origins & descendants, they're the ones giving the handouts

simit

I think they should all be deported to sub-sahran Africa where they can sell their Big Issues to the locals to use as wall paper for their mud huts.

I am pie

simit wrote: »

I think they should all be deported to sub-sahran Africa where they can sell their Big Issues to the locals to use as wall paper for their mud huts.

We should send you down to, for the craic, you seem like a laugh.

gutenberg

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Romania is a muti-ethnic country with a large Hungarian minority, along with minorities of Germans and other groups. These minorities might not be considered Romania by ethnic Romanians but in every way that matters, they are Romanians. The same goes for those Roma who live in Romania.

Indeed, they would all enjoy citizenship, with all its attendant rights & benefits. However, Roma in particular would not be part of mainstream Romanian society, in all its forms.

frag420

How about we make soap and washing obigitory upon arrival here??
If we tweak it a little we could also solve the traveller problem too!!:D