Work possibility for Irish in Denmark

Sejr_Lund

Hi guys

I was wondering if there was any interest in the following opportunity. Nothing is official and no offers is made but the company in question has asked me to "sniff" around to see if there is any interest at all.

A large Danish company (not multinational) wishes to hire Irish adults, for delivering newspapers and paper ads on a door to door basis.

In the past they have been recruiting a lot from eastern europe (particularly romania) and while that is "fine" one of the major issues is naturally the language barrier. Everyone in Denmark speaks fluent English, and Denmark and Ireland are quite close to each other culture wise (i myself am Danish with an Irish girlfriend )

The pay for this job would be something like 14€ an hour, and anyone interested would obviously have to move to Denmark. The work time would be approx 30 hours a week. It is worth noting that the taxes in Denmark are quite a bit higher than in Ireland, but that being part of the Danish tax system among other things also include free healtcare - something which you generally need to pay for in Ireland.

Do you guys think there would be any interest in an offer such as this? The work would be permanent (no expiring contracts etc) and anyone interested would naturally be offered help to find accomodations and to get integrated into the new country.

If everything works out they will be looking at something in between 300 and 500 jobs (in Denmark).

Jarren

Would you have a link to the company you speaking of OP?
Trying to sniff....;)

gustafo

i suppose people will look at what % of tax will have to be paid on the 420 a week? also is it expensive to rent there?

it sounds like a very weak amount of money to live on in a scandinavian country.

Nody

gustafo wrote: »

i suppose people will look at what % of tax will have to be paid on the 420 a week? also is it expensive to rent there?

it sounds like a very weak amount of money to live on in a scandinavian country.

What would you expect for a unskilled job though? It's not like the position will require a masters to do...

Sejr_Lund

In the lower taxbracket realistically you will be looking at a "free amount / month" at a around 3k danish (400 eur) and about 40% of the remainder.

Renting is downtown Copenhagen is more expensive than Dublin but towns lying around Copenhagen are quite a bit cheaper (depending on distance). You will be looking at renting an apartment (alone 1-2 bedrooms) for something along the lines of 4000 Danish a month (roughly 35% of your monthly salary) or splitting that with a flatmate for half that.

Denmark is "more or less" similarly priced as Ireland. Having only lived in Dublin however that is my only comparable standard. Certain things are cheaper, cigarettes, drinking. Other things are more expensive sweets, chocolate, soda (Denmark has high taxation on unhealthy things). Electronics and the like are roughly the same although the VAT in Denmark is 25% as opposed to i think the 21.5 Ireland has.

On personal experience this salary would live you off well enough to live Alone in a 1 bedroom (not in Copenhagen but in the suburbs) and maintain a (not new) car, while still having money for going out once or twice a month.

For anyone industrious enough, the 30 hours a week would be only be a "minimum" and accepting overtime (at perhaps increased rates, this is not settled) would be very much an option. There would also be more work when more ads need to go out (November before christmas sale, January sale etc).

Denmark is probably a bit expensive compared to the rest of Ireland but in direct comparison with Dublin it more or less breaks even (healtcare vs free healtcare etc).
I've lived in Dublin at a salary of 12.8€/40 hours a week and i lived considerably better in Denmark for 110 (14.3€'ish) an hour with 37 hours a week.

Sejr_Lund

jarecki1976 wrote: »

Would you have a link to the company you speaking of OP?
Trying to sniff....;)

http://www.fk.dk/

However as stated this is strictly unofficial, i don't even work for them but i used to and they asked me to look into the possiblity of hiring Irish

Jarren

Thanks for that ,much appreciated

Sejr_Lund

It might also be worth noting that Norwegian.com flies directly from Dublin to Copenhagen 3 times a week and SAS 4-5 times a week.

a flight is roughly 2 hours 15 minutes and with Norwegian can be as cheap as 60 for a return ticket.

Tabnabs

This link may be useful

Working in Denmark - a guide to the Danish labour market

And the Danish embassy in Dublin have a good webpage
http://www.ambdublin.um.dk/en/menu/InfoDenmark/WorkingInDenmark/

Sejr_Lund

Tabnabs wrote: »

This link may be useful

Working in Denmark - a guide to the Danish labour market

And the Danish embassy in Dublin have a good webpage
http://www.ambdublin.um.dk/en/menu/InfoDenmark/WorkingInDenmark/

Thank you Tabnabs that is very helpful


I might add that no one is required to join a trade union for this particular job (usually that would be a 100 eur a month expense)

westernventure

i would defo be interested in something like this and some friends of mine would be also, can you send me on some more information about this.

Thanks.

Jarren

Well , after having a quick glance at the website you linked OP that particuliar job(delivering newspapers and paper ads) I wouldn't have any interest in becoming a delivery guy tbh
however having said that if you had any jobs going in the distribution centre it would another story all together..

ruggerbugger1

id be interested! if just to experience a new country for a while

Kerrydude1981

Sejr_Lund wrote: »

http://www.fk.dk/

However as stated this is strictly unofficial, i don't even work for them but i used to and they asked me to look into the possiblity of hiring Irish

Anymore info you could give us OP,like what are this company like to work for from your own personal experience?

Sejr_Lund

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Anymore info you could give us OP,like what are this company like to work for from your own personal experience?

If you don't mind the job and you do it properly you will have steady work and they will be happy to have you.

They're very progressive in some ways, the distribution basis they use is not something that is done in Ireland other than small scale, but theyve done it in Denmark for a very long time, and they are very good at it.
They've implemented a series of features to make it easier and more efficient. For instance staircases that are locked in Copenhagen the distributors will be able to get a special bluetooth key on their phones that can open the stairway doors in specific time periods.

This is but one of example of how they try to make everything faster and more efficient.

From personal experience i know they reward the employees that are trustworthy, but don't look to happily on the ones that arent (what company does?)

billy87

asked a couple of friends and they said they would definitely be interested

pog it

This is a kind offer but it's somewhat a slap on the face. Sorry. Yes, we speak English and this is an advantage to some extent but it also just sounds like we are the next step up from the Eastern Europeans now. No offence to you obviously, this is just how things have developed, and it's just sad.

the_syco

pog it wrote: »

This is a kind offer but it's somewhat a slap on the face.

There are a couple of thousand people unemployed here, so I'd call it a helping hand, rather than a slap in the face.

Kerrydude1981

pog it wrote: »

This is a kind offer but it's somewhat a slap on the face. Sorry. Yes, we speak English and this is an advantage to some extent but it also just sounds like we are the next step up from the Eastern Europeans now. No offence to you obviously, this is just how things have developed, and it's just sad.

I agree it is sad the way things have gone here,none of us here want to leave Ireland,but if these jobs come up people might have no other choice but to take these jobs in Denmark.

professore

pog it wrote: »

This is a kind offer but it's somewhat a slap on the face. Sorry. Yes, we speak English and this is an advantage to some extent but it also just sounds like we are the next step up from the Eastern Europeans now. No offence to you obviously, this is just how things have developed, and it's just sad.

Sounds like a great opportunity to me, if I was younger and single I'd jump at the chance. Better than being on the dole in any event.

Daftendirekt

How would you go about applying? I'm not entirely sure I could up sticks and move to Denmark at the moment, but it's tempting.

Also, would you need a driver's license or anything?

pog it

No, it's great that these jobs are available, I'm not down on that at all. It's just particularly sad that this is what things came to- that the Irish are who foreign companies think of now, after the Eastern Europeans. It's a reflection of how desperate we must appear to other countries at the moment.

Denerick

Some serious moaning going on here.

Unskilled job at €14 per hour? Check. (The average supermarket pays you around €9 per hour or less)

Chance to live abroad in a cool country? Check.

Chance to learn a new language? Check.

Chance to have new experiences? Check.

Chance to leave this depressing austerity ridden island for a while? Check.

Some people really need to get some perspective. Sure, we're the new eastern Europeans. Its out natural role once you take out the previous 20 years. We developed quite a complex with regards to having an 'entitlement' to an easy life, good money, and the 'Irish Dream'.

If I wasn't gainfully employed at the moment I would grab at this so fast...

but43r

pog it wrote: »

No, it's great that these jobs are available, I'm not down on that at all. It's just particularly sad that this is what things came to- that the Irish are who foreign companies think of now, after the Eastern Europeans. It's a reflection of how desperate we must appear to other countries at the moment.

And what exactly makes an Irish employee better than someone from Eastern Europe?

pog it

but43r wrote: »

And what exactly makes an Irish employee better than someone from Eastern Europe?

That isn't the point I made so I've no idea what you're trying to insinuate in that question!

I made the point about our image abroad.

Read my posts again and take your aggression out in an appropriate place. Lots of real things going on that you can be angry about.

pog it

Denerick wrote: »

Some serious moaning going on here.

Unskilled job at €14 per hour? Check. (The average supermarket pays you around €9 per hour or less)

Chance to live abroad in a cool country? Check.

Chance to learn a new language? Check.

Chance to have new experiences? Check.

Chance to leave this depressing austerity ridden island for a while? Check.

Some people really need to get some perspective. Sure, we're the new eastern Europeans. Its out natural role once you take out the previous 20 years. We developed quite a complex with regards to having an 'entitlement' to an easy life, good money, and the 'Irish Dream'.

If I wasn't gainfully employed at the moment I would grab at this so fast...

Again, nobody here has said this isn't a good opportunity workwise with all the attendant benefits. It's just some of us expected more for this country.

Raekwon

Sejr_Lund wrote: »

Denmark is "more or less" similarly priced as Ireland. Having only lived in Dublin however that is my only comparable standard. Certain things are cheaper, cigarettes, drinking. Other things are more expensive sweets, chocolate, soda (Denmark has high taxation on unhealthy things). Electronics and the like are roughly the same although the VAT in Denmark is 25% as opposed to i think the 21.5 Ireland has.

The new tax rate in Ireland is 23% and unlike Denmark our heath service, transport infrastructure and education system are extremely poor in comparison.

It's interesting that you say drink is cheaper, I always found that Scandinavian countries were very expensive compared to Ireland. For example a pint of lager would be around €4.50 on average in Dublin but in Copenhagen I was paying closer to €6 for a lager.

I think the opportunity that you have presented is a really good one, but unfortunately I'm the wrong side of 30 for this sort of job. A similar job would pay €8.65 in Dublin but because there are 450,000 people unemployed unscrupulous employers are looking to exploit workers at every opportunity and the government are ridiculously condoning these actions. See here.

Sejr_Lund

Hi everyone and sorry for being absent from this thread for a while.

We're currently sorting out the particulars as to how the employer wish to go about this and I will get back to anyone who either PM'ed me or voiced interest in this thread as soon as we know exactly how everything is going to work out.

Sejr_Lund

pog it wrote: »

This is a kind offer but it's somewhat a slap on the face. Sorry. Yes, we speak English and this is an advantage to some extent but it also just sounds like we are the next step up from the Eastern Europeans now. No offence to you obviously, this is just how things have developed, and it's just sad.

Just meant as an opportunity, no offense is meant
Plenty of Danish go to Ireland to work (low level jobs, required Danish language). Did so myself in fact

Daftendirekt wrote: »

How would you go about applying? I'm not entirely sure I could up sticks and move to Denmark at the moment, but it's tempting.

Also, would you need a driver's license or anything?

A drivers license would be an advantage but not a definite requirement.

Raekwon wrote: »

The new tax rate in Ireland is 23% and unlike Denmark our heath service, transport infrastructure and education system are extremely poor in comparison.

It's interesting that you say drink is cheaper, I always found that Scandinavian countries were very expensive compared to Ireland. For example a pint of lager would be around €4.50 on average in Dublin but in Copenhagen I was paying closer to €6 for a lager.

I think the opportunity that you have presented is a really good one, but unfortunately I'm the wrong side of 30 for this sort of job. A similar job would pay €8.65 in Dublin but because there are 450,000 people unemployed unscrupulous employers are looking to exploit workers at every opportunity and the government are ridiculously condoning these actions. See here.

Buying drink in shops is cheaper, and unlike Dublin there are plenty of "cheap" bars where you can start your buzz before going to a more expensive club (i.e. its okay to have happy hour etc). Obviously depends where you go, can easily find a place where a pint is 10 or even 15 euro, but also places where you'd pay 2.5. In Dublin almost anywhere it would be somewhere between 4 and 6.

If anyone is interested in the exact price difference you can check out the catalogue from one of the biggest foodshops in Denmark (Bilka).

http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/6e5bd2ad#/6e5bd2ad/1

Incidentally these would also be the kind of things that needs to be delivered to houses.

Edit: Euro to Danish is 1 euro to 7.5 Danish (approx) so any prices need to be divided by 7.5.

igorbiscan

for what its worth I worked in denmark for 7-8 months around 8 years ago.My expierience was mostly positive.
I worked in a meat processing plant paying roughly 40% tax,was clearing around 400 a week.This was enough to pay rent in a sort of live in hotel and have a good time but not extravagant.As far as I can remember a lot of apartments to rent are unfurnished.
The health system is top notch,and the beers are very cheap in the supermarket due to their recycling system which means you really only pay for the contents of the bottles:D
The Danish are really sound people to my mind and speak perfect english.Its a small enough country to explore by train and Malmo is only a short trip away too from Copenhagen.
Anyways, you probably wont get rich but sure its an adventure!
Obviously always DYOR.

OP please correct me if I am wrong about any of the above,it was a while ago and my brain is getting mushy!:pac:

billy87

any updates on this?

Sejr_Lund

Will post an update soon

Broads.ie

Slightly interested... waiting for more info! How difficult is Danish to learn?

Also, what sort of chances does one have of progressing within the company?

mrshane777

hey im looking to move to denmark from dublin
id be very interested in this:)

MONTAGNEVILLE

Im interested too.Really need the money

neilly1974

Ok. Brothers and Sisters. I was browsing for something else entirely and found this thread.....I was so shocked by what I was reading that I have taken ten minutes out to put a few things down in writing.

Mr Sejr_Lund.....shame on you mate thats all I can say. Now that all your Poles have gone home your trawling Ireland. I will be speaking to the Brendan Scanlan the Irish ambassador about this personally mate....

Sooooooo.....

Dear Paddy Workseeker,

Denmark is in fact a lovely country to live in. Period. Thats a fact. The Danes are a fine people, especially when you can speak their language. After living here for over six years, correctly, paying taxes and having been involved in the integration process, I can say that. Copenhagen is a wonderful city indeed but I have also worked all over Denmark. I know a thing a or two about being Irish and coming to work and subsequently live in Denmark.

No.1...NOT ALL DANES SPEAK ENGLISH WELL......ok?....FACT. iPod wearing Copenhageners yes but most people over 45 or 50 from the working classes, really would much rather you spoke Danish. And will tell you so...........until you either go home or learn it. AND ITS EASILY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT LANGUAGES IN THE WORLD PEOPLE.......ok.

No.2...14 euros an hour is below the state minimum wage and less than 30 hours a week does not entitle my Irish brothers to any rights to a residence permit. Temporary or otherwise.

No.3...14 Euro x 30 hours (or lets be kind to the argument and say 40....=640 Euros) is a hideously tight budget to live on in Denmark. My first wage here was 150kroner an hour times 60 hours a week, and I struggled, and I know how to live frugally, believe me. I'm Irish.....

No.4..... I'm not even going to respond to what you said about the car thing.....but if i let my paddy brothers and sisters know that that crappy old Seat their mate Sean has would cost them nearly 4000euros just to buy here, and they cant insure it unless they are on the state system.....they'll work the rest out m8. Shame on you with that one Mr Lund!!!

No.5..Irish healthcare is FREE to people on working class wages or benefits in Ireland, and is TOTALLY FREE to those of us Irish from the North living under British rule, wether Irish or British or BOTH passport holders. When are you Danes going to get that old mantra out of your mindset. Offering free health care to below minimum wage workers without a viable contract is in my view, a disgrace Mr Lund. Check your facts on that on. All Irish people coming here are advised to travel under private health insurance until they can be registered with the CPR system under their rights as EU citizens.......ok everybody. I've seen to many Polaks bundled into cars with bandages on.....lets not go there.

No.6..The Danish health system is in my view, dreadful. As you well know yourself Mr Lund.....and as you Danes yourselves say after a few glasses of wine at a party...."better not to be sick in Denmark......."

No..7.. What little flat on the outskirts of Copenhagen are my brothers and sisters going to stay in on 5-600 Euro a week and pay the minimum 8 euro a day to the metro to travel into work daily......I could go on all night on this one. Mileparken by chance Mr Lund?

No..8..All Danish residents have a yellow health insurance card with their CPR number on it, and that includes expats with a right to be in Denmark.....are you or your company going to help all my non Danish speaking compatriots to navigate their way through the government paperwork required? Which is totally in Danish....Are you?

No..9...I have flown Dublin to Copenhagen maybe 70 or 80 times in my life......I would need to book sixmonths in advance to get a single for 600kroner let alone 60 euro....

My caveat to the whole thing is lads and lasses from Ireland. If you want to know about coming to live and work in Denmark, talk to an irish expat.....don't believe the government propaganda or cheap labour providers. Denmark is a fine place, a really beautiful and fair country. Copenhagen life is great and when you can speak the langauge you could build a life here for yourself,
the Danes are a lovely people.....when you speak their language. COUNT how many times Ive said that....

Good luck to you all, be smart they way Irish people are and read between the lines. If you come here be warned....yeah its sexy, smart, cool and sophisticated.............but' ALL IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS.......Slainte

neilly1974

http://www.cphpost.dk/ this is Danish news in English.

www.dba.dk is the Danish equivalent of Ebay or Buy and Sell.

http://www.dba.dk/seat-ibiza-14-soul-2001-km/id-501450449/ is a 11 year old seat with 130K on it and a years road test.

http://www.dba.dk/koebenhavn-n-2-vaer-lejlighed/id-81717537/ a 2 room flat in northern copenhagen requiring a 2000 euro deposit.

http://www.theirishrover.dk/ is a decent pub with a reasonable pint. Pint in it costs 56 kroner which is around 8euro.


http://www.danskirsk.dk/ is a danish/irish society

Denmark is a lovely country folks, and the people are sound as. BUT.....on 14 euro an hour based on a no contract of 30 hours a week.

Make sure you have a couple of grand in your pocket to get going.

Neilly

neilly1974

https://www.workindenmark.dk/ is a useful site and fairly accurate, but it is a government site. You will get the jist when you read through some of it.

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/Integration/online_danish/ is a useful site, once again a government sponsored site.

Good luck.

Denerick

A lot of the people interested in this will be backpackers. So long as the wage was enough to live on - I'd draw into my savings if I wanted to anything 'extracurricular' - it would be good enough for most. Rent/food/bills that is all that most people will be looking at. The rest can be worked out.

The money mightn't be great but for 30 hours a week and a year or so with all that free time its much better than the humdrum in little old Ireland. Whilst appreciating your warnings, I don't think what you've said will put too many people off the idea.

neilly1974

Not in anyway trying to put people off. I have done worse jobs for less in my life, your generation aren't the first to have to leave Ireland for work, or even excitement for that matter....

As I say frequently in my post. Denmark is indeed a great place. I have been actually successful here and I too have backpacked for years away from boring old Ireland, Liverpool first, then London....Spain, New York......finally Denmark.

I am however concerned when a Danish employer is giving false information to potential Irish employees because if you were Danish, it wouldn't happen.

If you seriously think that you can exist in Denmark on 420 euro a week, then I as a normal working man am telling you that, yeah ....if you wanna walk everywhere and sit in your digs drinking bottles of beer from Netto, on that wage that is what you are gonna get.

The guys who delivered the advertising mail here in Copenhagen are a very distinct breed from the normal uniformed post people. They were up until recently mostly asian and eastern european guys. They hastle flats doorbells to get all the brochures into the letter boxes which are actually inside the building. The post people have a key and are traceable, these guys do not....they need someone to let them in.

My building, for example has no intention of giving any bluetooth access to junk mail guys...most owner occupied flats are the same.

I am always very happy to see more Irish people in Copenhagen and Denmark in general, Irish people were very much admired here in the Seventies and Eighties for their music and culture....and there are a good group of expats here. If you bite the bullet, last the distance and you pop up in Copenhagen, I'll buy you a pint.

I'm going to unfollow this thread because I've given all i want to give to it....but, I totally stand by what I said. It isn't vitriol because I have actually made it in Denmark, AND I LIKE THE PLACE......it's just a reality. Just have your eyes open is all. Just ask yourself why would an irish man browsing the net in his apartment with a business to run, family to cook for and a million phone calls to make tonight...... bother to type all this in to save some paddy .....he doesn't know and isnt related too.... a bit of hastle?

I know Ireland is having a hard time right now, but recession and lack of work was why I left Ireland too.....But honestly.....3123.3 kroner is slave wages in Denmark. I use the word slave, for its true and literal meaning....You wanna bench mark as a traveller....Take London and double it.


Once again. Good luck to you.

neilly1974

Danish base rate is a non negotiable 40% tax, so take 500 euros -ish of your monthly wages for your personal allowance and divide the rest by your tax.

Basically based on a four week working month you will have

1680 - 500= 1180.

1180/100 x 60= 708

add your allowance back on= 1208.

So thats 302.5 Euro a week, to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world.....

barney4001

no way will i be going at those rates of pay and tax cost of living etc slave wages, bet there are no roma there

neilly1974

So if you read between the lines, what is paddy with wrinkles saying. I'm basically saying welcome to Copenhagen, but have a fall back plan. Have a little money put aside. It is FIERCE expensive here, you will need bar work or something else to even be able to function. The links I post above will help you to start having a look at it.

If I did it, so can you BUT, get the head on the right way first. Use these links and browse around for all the rest. Copenhagen is a small city, bigger than the size of Cork more or less. The people are absolutely lovely they like the Irish, the paperwork is ballbreaking but if you are prepared to work with them the state is very fair.

But by Jesus, be prepared for the price of stuff. A mars bar is 3 euro....

So may the road rise up to meet you.......... just make sure you aren't walking uphill all your life.

Good luck.

carbon nanotube

lmao

3euro

as a matter of interst, what is the typical salary for say engineers? electronic or the like

or even you know research posts

Tabnabs

neilly1974 wrote: »

No..9...I have flown Dublin to Copenhagen maybe 70 or 80 times in my life......I would need to book sixmonths in advance to get a single for 600kroner let alone 60 euro....

I've flown via CPH many times as well and am stumped at summation above. Flying with SAS was traditionally incredibly expensive (as were Aer Lingus). But now with Norwegian.no (for example) flights from Dublin to Copenhagen directly can be had for €60 each way one or two months in advance which isn't an unreasonable waiting time (and this is Friday out, Monday home).

Also your contention that

AND ITS EASILY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT LANGUAGES IN THE WORLD PEOPLE

is also nonsense. Seeing as Danish and English share common origins, it's no harder than French or German. Dialects may be difficult to understand, but that's no different to a Dane coming to Ireland and living in a rural or inner city location.

A bit more positivity and advice for anyone looking to move from Ireland and get any jobs in Denmark would be of more use than your negative outlook so far.

neilly1974

Slight difference between positivity and nit picking moderator. Seems you are rather passionate if not ill-informed on that score.

I know the prices as I have flown it 70 to 80 times both with SAS and Norwegian. Yes it is sometimes cheaper, if booked way in advance, but it is hardly Ryanair money. As you are maybe aware there is a hell of difference from taking a jolly to a city and flying around your work-time responsibilities to get back to see family on precious days off..

I know the difficulties of the language because I have studied it, learned it and speak it every day to my friends and employees. I am not sure what the relevance of highlighting its grammatical similarities to English, and I doubt you have any understanding of its dialects across Denmark as a whole.... It is recognized by greater minds than mine as easily one of the most difficult languages in the world to speak correctly and is a huge stumbling block for expats. To glibly say that everyone in DK speaks perfect English is factually wrong. Period.

I offer information based on real experience and links to real information whilst repeatedly saying that YES I am content and established in Denmark.

I do however notice that you have little concern for the taxation or residency rights I mention or the fact that the job advertised is of lower pay than is considered minimum wage here in DK.

The post by Sejr Lund paints a totally unrealistic image of the job offered and the conditions here in DK. It is factually incorrect and misleading.

I regard that as deeply negative.

I also regard a moderator picking scraps from an argument, sticking in a few wiki-ish facts and generally missing the whole purpose of the thread as trivial.

As I said, I am already here and have made a go of it. I couldn't have done so, even for a month on the money offered here.....

Respectful but unchanged.

N

neilly1974

60 each way is NOT 60 return as Sejr Lund says....

No harder than French or German, you must be the only creature on God's earth thinking that one........ Danish speaker are we then?

Really moderator, are you moderating on behalf of Ireland or just talking about something you quite obviously know absolutely nothing about.

It took an immense amount of personal positivity to move to DK, learn the language and integrate. Now I am giving advice from experience regarding this very misleading post. DK is a fantastic place but get your facts right.

N

Dr Expired

Chill out dude.

Dont wanna go if that place makes you like up-tight man.:cool:

neilly1974

Dr Expired wrote: »

Chill out dude.

Dont wanna go if that place makes you like up-tight man.:cool:

Finally! Someone gets it.....thanks dude. I am laughing now. Go to Berlin or Bali instead.

Lol.

N

Andrew Purfield

Sejr_Lund wrote: »

Hi guys

I was wondering if there was any interest in the following opportunity. Nothing is official and no offers is made but the company in question has asked me to "sniff" around to see if there is any interest at all.

A large Danish company (not multinational) wishes to hire Irish adults, for delivering newspapers and paper ads on a door to door basis.

In the past they have been recruiting a lot from eastern europe (particularly romania) and while that is "fine" one of the major issues is naturally the language barrier. Everyone in Denmark speaks fluent English, and Denmark and Ireland are quite close to each other culture wise (i myself am Danish with an Irish girlfriend )

The pay for this job would be something like 14€ an hour, and anyone interested would obviously have to move to Denmark. The work time would be approx 30 hours a week. It is worth noting that the taxes in Denmark are quite a bit higher than in Ireland, but that being part of the Danish tax system among other things also include free healtcare - something which you generally need to pay for in Ireland.

Do you guys think there would be any interest in an offer such as this? The work would be permanent (no expiring contracts etc) and anyone interested would naturally be offered help to find accomodations and to get integrated into the new country.

If everything works out they will be looking at something in between 300 and 500 jobs (in Denmark).

This is very interesting. I did part of a course in Danish last year in Dublin, and I have a friend from a little north of Copenhagen. I'm living in France right now until May. Is there any chance I could move there for 3-4 months and do this as a summer job? I speak English fluently of course, being Irish, but I also speak fluent French and some German so I'd be interested in picking up a small bit of Danish as well(maybe working during the day and studying Danish during the evenings).

Also, it would offer a chance to see a bit of Scandinavia. Please PM me or email apjpisared@gmail.com if you're hiring again for the summer.

Andrew Purfield

Sejr_Lund wrote: »

In the lower taxbracket realistically you will be looking at a "free amount / month" at a around 3k danish (400 eur) and about 40% of the remainder.

Renting is downtown Copenhagen is more expensive than Dublin but towns lying around Copenhagen are quite a bit cheaper (depending on distance). You will be looking at renting an apartment (alone 1-2 bedrooms) for something along the lines of 4000 Danish a month (roughly 35% of your monthly salary) or splitting that with a flatmate for half that.

Denmark is "more or less" similarly priced as Ireland. Having only lived in Dublin however that is my only comparable standard. Certain things are cheaper, cigarettes, drinking. Other things are more expensive sweets, chocolate, soda (Denmark has high taxation on unhealthy things). Electronics and the like are roughly the same although the VAT in Denmark is 25% as opposed to i think the 21.5 Ireland has.

On personal experience this salary would live you off well enough to live Alone in a 1 bedroom (not in Copenhagen but in the suburbs) and maintain a (not new) car, while still having money for going out once or twice a month.

For anyone industrious enough, the 30 hours a week would be only be a "minimum" and accepting overtime (at perhaps increased rates, this is not settled) would be very much an option. There would also be more work when more ads need to go out (November before christmas sale, January sale etc).

Denmark is probably a bit expensive compared to the rest of Ireland but in direct comparison with Dublin it more or less breaks even (healtcare vs free healtcare etc).
I've lived in Dublin at a salary of 12.8€/40 hours a week and i lived considerably better in Denmark for 110 (14.3€'ish) an hour with 37 hours a week.

I'm amazed 30 hours is a full week for such an average job. In Ireland I worked 50 hours a week every summer for just 300 euros. 37 hours would be very welcome.