For those of you on the dole. Are you actively seeking employment?

Broads.ie

I've been on the dole since around May, and to be honest, I wouldn't say I'm "actively" seeking work. And I get less active the closer I get to pay day. To be honest I think us unemployed get way too much money (unless you have kids and a mortgage and literally cannot survive on 185e a week).

At the start of my dole journey I was stuck to the job sites, but now I'm like meh. I'd browse the job sites as if I were browsing BBC News. There is no sense of urgency. I'm a single lad, with enough money for rent, food and entertainment. I really do want a job, I don't plan on doing this for ever, but I think the kickstart I need (or rather the kick in the arse I need) would be to have the dole cut in half.

tl;dr

So are you actively looking for work or are you just tipping away on the dole?


btw I can't edit the poll, but the option for "no rush" should be "I wouldn't mind a job, but there's no rush."

Can I edit the poll btw? I can't find the option...

Logical Fallacy

Broads.ie wrote: »

I've been on the dole since around May, and to be honest, I wouldn't say I'm "actively" seeking work. And I get less active the closer I get to pay day. To be honest I think us unemployed get way too much money (unless you have kids and a mortgage and literally cannot survive on 185e a week).

Don't worry about it, in a few months you'll be down to 130 a week.

Johnny Foreigner

I have been unemployed for 2 years.
During that time I have applied for jobs.
My confidence has taken a knock though due to 2 years of attending interviews and getting rejection letters.
I keep trying though, but I find it hard to motivate myself and keep going.

FearDark

Unemployed.
Was made redundant when my company closed.
They were quite generous with the redundancy/bonus package.

Meh. Worked for long enough, enjoying doing nothing right now. Applying for jobs, had one interview, if I get it It will be awesome, if I don't thats ok too.

Jsmurff

the problem is other country's like canada new zealand and australia have the mentallity of "we dot care how retarded you are we'l still give you a job " where as here in Ireland employers are getting highly inteligent and highly quallified staff for a feckn pitence due to the youth fleeing in droves. Also allot of jobs are actually filled by the time you see the advert! they just throw it up there and give people the run around so they can be seen to be following the rules! The situation is so dire that
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_AVALANCHE_

FFS, Dole Thread at 2am on a Monday.

Jsmurff

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

FFS, Dole Thread at 2am on a Monday.

are you on the dole?

Broads.ie

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

I have been unemployed for 2 years.
During that time I have applied for jobs.
My confidence has taken a knock though due to 2 years of attending interviews and getting rejection letters.
I keep trying though, but I find it hard to motivate myself and keep going.

I know what you mean. I recently attended the most important interview of my whole life. This job was literally going to make me the happiest motherfucker on Earth.

I didn't pass the interview, and I still feel like ****.

At least you're still trying, I guess that's the only thing we can do. I know people who actually love being on the dole and boast about how easy the Social Services check-up interview was. I don't want to be one of those people, and I can see you're the same.

The thing is we could probably get a job in McDonalds. Would you take a job there though? I would in my fcuk. I would be happier on the dole.

Is that ridiculous or what?

Broads.ie

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Don't worry about it, in a few months you'll be down to 130 a week.

Why is the dole being reduced to €130 a week? Links, sources etc etc.?

Logical Fallacy

Broads.ie wrote: »

Why is the dole being reduced to €130 a week? Links, sources etc etc.?

It's not, your PRSI payments entitle you to roughly one year at the higher rate, then it drops to 130 (in or around).

It's been that way for a long time.

Broads.ie

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

It's not, your PRSI payments entitle you to roughly one year at the higher rate, then it drops to 130 (in or around).

It's been that way for a long time.

Then how do some of my friends who have been on the dole for 2 years+ get €185 a week? Their PRSI payments aren't worth more than a tenner.

Einhard

Broads.ie wrote: »

I know what you mean. I recently attended the most important interview of my whole life. This job was literally going to make me the happiest motherfucker on Earth.

I didn't pass the interview, and I still feel like ****.

At least you're still trying, I guess that's the only thing we can do. I know people who actually love being on the dole and boast about how easy the Social Services check-up interview was. I don't want to be one of those people, and I can see you're the same.

The thing is we could probably get a job in McDonalds. Would you take a job there though? I would in my fcuk. I would be happier on the dole.

Is that ridiculous or what?

I know where you're coming from. Be warned though: before long you'll have a throng of posters howling about how dishonest/lazy/fradulent etc you are. I was on the dole for a bit. I was sick at the time so couldn't really work, but the €188 a week was way more than enough to live on. I went out most weeks, never was short of money, and was bale to save a good bit to go back to college. Would I have worked in McDonalds? The honest answer is no. Why cope with all the hassle and stress of a job you don't like when you het enough $$$ on the dole to meet your needs, and then some? People might be outraged by that, but if they're honest, they'd probably feel the same way.

Should the dole be cut? Well, for people like me, definitely. However, there are many people with families and debts that need to be serviced. To cut their dole just because a single, debt free person like myself can take the hit strikes me as unfair. I think though that there is scope for a cut in sociual welfare rates once a more lenient personal bankruptcy system is introduced in the country.

Logical Fallacy

ArianDecendant wrote: »

i like the down to earth nature of your attitude broads.ie, its unsual but fair.
if the dole was cut to 50e a week, the unemployment rate would decrease.
450,000 people in this country have i far to easy.
i work damn hard for what i have

Alternatively, if there were more jobs created in this country the unemployment rate would fall.

You also wouldn't have a huge boost in homelessness and a massive dent in the economy.

The vast, vast majority of those people on the dole worked damn hard as well and now they need the social welfare payments they are entitled to from their PRSI payments.

Don't let logic and facts get in the way of your typically ill thought out, bog standard AH post though.

Broads.ie wrote: »

Then how do some of my friends who have been on the dole for 2 years+ get €185 a week? Their PRSI payments aren't worth more than a tenner.

They don't, they get around 130 quid dole and may be getting other payments.

Or else they are just full of ****.

rabjoshu

It's been that way for a long time.

Link for this please!

Namlub

Another dole thread, I can hardly contain my excitement

Logical Fallacy

rabjoshu wrote: »

Link for this please!

Jesus Christ can no one use Google anymore?

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW4/Pages/s1.aspx

Einhard

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

They don't, they get around 130 quid dole and may be getting other payments.

Or else they are just full of ****.

Hmm think you have it wrong there LF. I was on the dole for nigh on three years and didn't suffer any reduction in entitlements from one to the other (apart from across the board budget cuts).

_AVALANCHE_

ArianDecendant wrote: »

what we need is a war, no better way to boost an economy

:rolleyes:

The-Rigger wrote: »

This post is retarded.

You can say that again.

Logical Fallacy

ArianDecendant wrote: »

yes, but dont u see jobs just can be created. there will never (and has never) been any nation with 100% or even 70 or 80% employment.

what we need is a war, no better way to boost an economy

And it's the ignore button for you.

Einhard

ArianDecendant wrote: »

y
what we need is a war, no better way to boost an economy

Yes, preferably against non-Arian folk eh? :rolleyes:

PS: You spelt "descendant" incorrectly.

Logical Fallacy

Einhard wrote: »

Hmm think you have it wrong there LF. I was on the dole for nigh on three years and didn't suffer any reduction in entitlements from one to the other (apart from across the board budget cuts).

I was on the dole for one year, and it dropped to 130 or so.

As did my girlfriends when she was on the dole, and everyone i know who has been on the dole within the last 3 years.

Einhard

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I was on the dole for one year, and it dropped to 130 or so.

As did my girlfriends when she was on the dole, and everyone i know who has been on the dole within the last 3 years.

First I heard of anything like that. Maybe I was the lucky one!

Logical Fallacy

Einhard wrote: »

First I heard of anything like that. Maybe I was the lucky one!

I assume they knew you needed beer money. :pac:

Einhard

ArianDecendant wrote: »

i cant believe how ignorant some people here are, well i guess thats what happens to you when you waste your life away in places like this for no gain........

So you won't be coming back then?

And you had so much to offer...:(

kylith

I worked for ten years in admin, and was made redundant during an extremely hostile takeover last June. At the moment I'm happy and grateful to up skill with Fás, but eager to get back to work; I don't find €180 a week a comfortable amount to live on.

I've been applying for months, but haven't even gotten an interview. Apparently I'm both overqualified and underqualified...

Jsmurff

as I said before lads employers are expecting highly skilled labour for dirt cheap 90% of the interview's that you will attend will be a farce they'l just ask stupid qwestions because they already picked out who they want and a runer up just incase oh what a fabulous country!

colinod0806

Logical Fallicy I think you're talkin about when you get means tested after 9 months or so there is no set rate that it just drops to. I myself was still entitled to the full amount.

In answer to OP yes i am "actively" seeking work but i do often fall into the trap of just staying up late and waking up late and feeling guilty but enjoying it at the same time

tuxy

kylith wrote: »

I worked for ten years in admin, and was made redundant during an extremely hostile takeover last June. At the moment I'm happy and grateful to up skill with Fás, but eager to get back to work; I don't find €180 a week a comfortable amount to live on.

I guess if you are used to way more it's not. But if you are getting 75% of your rent paid also and are single with no kids it's a bit too comfortable to motivate many people.

Jsmurff

I would also like to add that Iam still living under my parents roof with three sibling's none of us are employed. Iam on €100 jobseeker since I left college (when I was neerly 20) and am now 21. I spend over €50 on esb heating and food while living with my parents! if the dole is cut I mite aswell hang myself! Infact Iam leaving for the British Army and once I get citizenship thats it Iam revoking my irish citizenship because at least they have the balls to tell the frog and natzi to fcuk off!!!!!

LH Pathe

If employment needs me it can come find me?! I don't seek out rejection

But then I'll just turn it down anyhow. last 'suitable' position they found me 12yr ago was at the coombe; turned out to be dumping dead babies. Failed foetuses like.. Nice. n I certainly wasn't in character for anything remotely like that. Still traumatized! Fùck society I.. Won't be workin anytime soon

Einhard

Jsmurff wrote: »

I would also like to add that Iam still living under my parents roof with three sibling's none of us are employed. Iam on €100 jobseeker since I left college (when I was neerly 20) and am now 21. I spend over €50 on esb heating and food while living with my parents! if the dole is cut I mite aswell hang myself! Infact Iam leaving for the British Army and once I get citizenship thats it Iam revoking my irish citizenship because at least they have the decency to take others into their borders and have th
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So you take the €100 pw that the Irish state is kind enought o give you, and as soon as you get the chance you want to revoke your citizenship? That's gratitude. Tell you what...why don't you fook off to the UK now, and stop claimiing that €5000 per year of the Irish tax payer? It's win/win. You'll be happy. I'm sure your hypocritical whining won't be missed. And we'll save a few bob on the dole bill too.

Jsmurff

hey if I could get a job here I would but its ****ing impossible! infact ive geared myself towards a military career all my life includeing 4 yrs service as an infantryman with the RDF! But what happened they stopped recruiting and closed ranks and for those of you who dont know what that means that theres no promotions even if a fella retired tomorow or died in his sleep they'l just downsize the unit and close another barracks! its causing a stagnant lazyness in the army with no drive to succeed and prope
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Jsmurff

ugh ****n fone -_- anyway Einhard as I was saying with no ladder tto propell themselvs up the troop's just get compfortable and happy just the way they are and wont bother improving their skills, as they should, becaus their's no higher rank waiting for them. So yes I am complaining and at the same time Iam also abondoning this retard infested (present company excluded... well minus one or two) ****hole of weak excuse for a country it need's to be raised to the ground in my opinion!

Faith+1

Jsmurff wrote: »

Infact Iam leaving for the British Army and once I get citizenship thats it Iam revoking my irish citizenship because at least they have the balls to tell the frog and natzi to fcuk off!!!!!

Here we go, always blaming the French!:rolleyes:

Einhard

Jsmurff wrote: »

hey if I could get a job here I would but its ****ing impossible! infact ive geared myself towards a military career all my life includeing 4 yrs service as an infantryman with the RDF! But what happened they stopped recruiting and closed ranks and for those of you who dont know what that means that theres no promotions even if a fella retired tomorow or died in his sleep they'l just downsize the unit and close another barracks! its causing a stagnant lazyness in the army with no drive to succeed and prope
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Well unfortunately, the irish army doesn't exist to provide you with opportunities to fulfill your dreams. Do you not see how other might find it obnoxious that someone who takes over 5k a year from the Irish state, is so disparaging of that state in return? You're basically saying "Fup you Ireland...oh by the way, give me some money for nothing"

rabjoshu

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

rabjoshu wrote: »

Link for this please!

Jesus Christ can no one use Google anymore?

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW4/Pages/s1.aspx

I can't see a mention of e130 after a certain period of time.

Jsmurff

yup actually your right Einhard Iam such a spitefull bastad Iam going to rob that little bit of your weekly wage just like the other 160% of unemployed people do ( dont forget there is people worse then me who are working and defrauding the state ) or have they actually cracked down on that yet like they said they would? I highly doubt it as theres lots of rollex's and fancy suits in the dole office

Senna

Jsmurff wrote: »

I would also like to add that Iam still living under my parents roof with three sibling's none of us are employed. Iam on €100 jobseeker since I left college (when I was neerly 20) and am now 21. I spend over €50 on esb heating and food while living with my parents! if the dole is cut I mite aswell hang myself! Infact Iam leaving for the British Army and once I get citizenship thats it Iam revoking my irish citizenship because at least they have the balls to tell the frog and natzi to fcuk off!!!!!

Lets hope you're posted to (insert some far off hostile country where the British army only went because the US wanted that countries resources) where you'll make a good target.

myflipflops

Jsmurff wrote: »

ugh ****n fone -_- anyway Einhard as I was saying with no ladder tto propell themselvs up the troop's just get compfortable and happy just the way they are and wont bother improving their skills, as they should, becaus their's no higher rank waiting for them. So yes I am complaining and at the same time Iam also abondoning this retard infested (present company excluded... well minus one or two) ****hole of weak excuse for a country it need's to be raised to the ground in my opinion!

On behalf of Irish people, I will say how much we will miss your obvious intelligence, coherent debating style and superior syntax.

Best of luck on the British army.

Don't come back now.

Einhard

Jsmurff wrote: »

yup actually your right Einhard Iam such a spitefull bastad Iam going to rob that little bit of your weekly wage just like the other 160% of unemployed people do ( dont forget there is people worse then me who are working and defrauding the state ) or have they actually cracked down on that yet like they said they would? I highly doubt it as theres lots of rollex's and fancy suits in the dole office

I don't get a weekly wage. I'm in college. I don't think you're spiteful. Just an ingrate really. Happy to take other peoples' money, and then denigrate the society that they are part of. I was on the dole for a while and it made me appreciate all the more how generous Ireland is in that regard. I'll always be grateful for that. I guess that's where you and I differ though.

Senna

Jsmurff wrote: »

yup actually your right Einhard Iam such a spitefull bastad Iam going to rob that little bit of your weekly wage just like the other 160% of unemployed people do ( dont forget there is people worse then me who are working and defrauding the state ) or have they actually cracked down on that yet like they said they would? I highly doubt it as theres lots of rollex's and fancy suits in the dole office

Ohhh, You maths good.

Jsmurff

also of course iam giving out about the french and the crouts! what right have they poking their large obsurd noses into Ireland affairs! also Einhard if I may explain myself for a moment Iam not just joining out of spite for my country all the fcuktards within it but because of the free dental and healthcare I have never been able to afford dental surgery I have had a pretty ****e life my 3rd level education is actually Fetac level 5 and 6 so I think Iam entitled to take an opertunity if I see it and
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sandmanporto

Broads.ie wrote: »

I've been on the dole since around May, and to be honest, I wouldn't say I'm "actively" seeking work. And I get less active the closer I get to pay day. To be honest I think us unemployed get way too much money (unless you have kids and a mortgage and literally cannot survive on 185e a week).

At the start of my dole journey I was stuck to the job sites, but now I'm like meh. I'd browse the job sites as if I were browsing BBC News. There is no sense of urgency. I'm a single lad, with enough money for rent, food and entertainment. I really do want a job, I don't plan on doing this for ever, but I think the kickstart I need (or rather the kick in the arse I need) would be to have the dole cut in half.

tl;dr

So are you actively looking for work or are you just tipping away on the dole?


btw I can't edit the poll, but the option for "no rush" should be "I wouldn't mind a job, but there's no rush."

Can I edit the poll btw? I can't find the option...

As a bipolar alcoholic i wish i was dead because i feel too guily right now to live. Yes I receive disabilty benefit and Yes i would prefer to be dead
i hate taking tax payers money

Jsmurff

Senna wrote: »

Ohhh, You maths good.

quoting what I heard from a news peice from a while back but obviously you do not hold the mental capacity to remember! the "160%" there is 60% more people claming benifits then there actually is unimployed so basically theres allot of greedy ****ers with their fingers i allot of pies throughout the entire country.

DaveDaRave

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Alternatively, if there were more jobs created in this country the unemployment rate would fall.

You also wouldn't have a huge boost in homelessness and a massive dent in the economy.

The vast, vast majority of those people on the dole worked damn hard as well and now they need the social welfare payments they are entitled to from their PRSI payments.

Don't let logic and facts get in the way of your typically ill thought out, bog standard AH post though.



They don't, they get around 130 quid dole and may be getting other payments.

Or else they are just full of ****.

everyone on Jobseeker's Allowance over the age of 25 or living independently gets a base rate of €188 per week, not including extras.

UDAWINNER

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Alternatively, if there were more jobs created in this country the unemployment rate would fall.

You also wouldn't have a huge boost in homelessness and a massive dent in the economy.

The vast, vast majority of those people on the dole worked damn hard as well and now they need the social welfare payments they are entitled to from their PRSI payments.

Don't let logic and facts get in the way of your typically ill thought out, bog standard AH post though.



They don't, they get around 130 quid dole and may be getting other payments.

Or else they are just full of ****.

Dole is 188 AFIK

Einhard

Jsmurff wrote: »

quoting what I heard from a news peice from a while back but obviously you do not hold the mental capacity to remember! the "160%" there is 60% more people claming benifits then there actually is unimployed so basically theres allot of greedy ****ers with their fingers i allot of pies throughout the entire country.

LOL surely you didn't edit out the part about me sodomising myself with something?

Jsmurff

Einhard if you dont like the fact that Iam claiming jobseekers to just **** off to a foreign country then you can fcuk yourself in the ass with a cactus for all I care cos I dont give a fcuk what you think infact I stoped giving a fcuk about what the general pouplous thought me after junior cert so yeah... cactus... go shove up your ass

Jsmurff

yes and no the mobile fone Iam using (yup thats rite no computer or laptop) says I have 1000 carrecters but I can never use more the 550 so i judt edited out to put it into another longer comment just to be clear of what I think of you

Leo Dowling

Threads like these make me appreciate the fact that we live in a democratic society. There's so many far-right nutters on here. Much more than in real life. It's fine that this stuff happens on the internet but doesn't happen in real life. The right wing can bang their keyboards for eternity, it doesn't matter an iota in our democratic society.

Einhard

Jsmurff wrote: »

yes and no the mobile fone Iam using (yup thats rite no computer or laptop) says I have 1000 carrecters but I can never use more the 550 so i judt edited out to put it into another longer comment just to be clear of what I think of you

Aww shucks that's sweet man. Did your phone also tell you that you had to spell every second word incorrectly?