2012 Cars

Jomcc

Some of you may remember my posts from 2010 and 2011 about a person who changes his car every year and has XX-LS-201 as registration. Always has his car for 1st January.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost....7&postcount=13

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69818291&postcount=22

Well this year, he's decided to be different.



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mickdw

How muxh extra is an pre 200 number - €1000?

Jomcc

mickdw wrote: »

How muxh extra is an pre 200 number - €1000?

Think it's €1000 to specify any number............such a waste of money on a Focus......Nuts.

drunkmonkey

mickdw wrote: »

How muxh extra is an pre 200 number - €1000?

Don't forget the 2% premium for not buying it yesterday, add another 500.

If nobody buys another new car for the next 3mts the vat rate won't be long about going back down.

mickdw

Sitec wrote: »

That number-plate would drive me cracked, the LS needs to be under the Ford badge.

Yes, that would drive me nuts too.

-Corkie-

Jomcc wrote: »

Think it's €1000 to specify any number............such a waste of money on a Focus......Nuts.

Thanks for the post. It only seems like a few months since your last thread..

Guy:Incognito

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If nobody buys another new car for the next 3mts the vat rate won't be long about going back down.

Whats the percentage of total vat take that made up by new cars? I'm guessing not huge?

As for the plate , I'd have rathered 12-LS-12 myself. Had 97-D-97 a couple of years ago. Want the car and plate back

Jomcc

-Corkie- wrote: »

Thanks for the post. It only seems like a few months since your last thread..

Scary..........time flies.:D

colm_mcm

If I was spending €1000 on a reg number Id want them t have the number plate centred...

Saab Ed

Jomcc wrote: »

mickdw wrote: »

How muxh extra is an pre 200 number - €1000?

Think it's €1000 to specify any number............such a waste of money on a Focus......Nuts.

A waste on a number, on that car but most of all on a laois reg. Like WTF, a laois reg for Christ sake. I don't think id buy a used car with an LS reg nevermind spending a grand to display the fact you're the greatest idiot in the county. Nuts.

colm_mcm

Maybe he's the lord mayor of Mountmellick or something?

Saab Ed

Sitec wrote: »

Saab Ed wrote: »

A waste on a number, on that car but most of all on a laois reg. Like WTF, a laois reg for Christ sake. I don't think id buy a used car with an LS reg nevermind spending a grand to display the fact you're the greatest idiot in the county. Nuts.

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest I'd be more concerned about the cars condition than the county it came from.

But it makes it sale proof back in the civilised world. You'd never shift it on.

drunkmonkey

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Whats the percentage of total vat take that made up by new cars? I'm guessing not huge?

As for the plate , I'd have rathered 12-LS-12 myself. Had 97-D-97 a couple of years ago. Want the car and plate back

It's roughly €287 Million *




I'l like to see the year removed from the number plates altogether while SIMI want to have 2 plates a year so you could have something like 97D97ja in January or in June 97D97ju. It's to create 2 buying seasons.

Cool plate, what was it?

veetwin

Jomcc wrote: »

Scary..........time flies.:D

Scary indeed how this guy wastes €1000 on something that will add precisely nothing in value to his car. He could have got leather or sat nav or something cool but decides to blow it on nothing instead...fair play to him though, it's nutters like him that keep the economy moving!

colm_mcm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Cool plate, what was it?

Registration 97D97
Make RENAULT
Model SAFRANNE
Description SAFRANE 2.5 RXE AUTO
Fuel Type PETROL

Guy:Incognito

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Cool plate, what was it?

Was on a Safrane. Previous owner was a high court judge who owned it from new. I bought it in 06 . He had all the boxes ticked including the egonomic seats (5 rocker switches in each of the front seats controlling a compressor that inflated diffeent parts of the seat from lumber to the bolsters).

Wish I never sold it but I had just started as a Plumber and didnt want to wreck it. Should have mothballed it instead. I pissed the money away anyway

Jomcc

veetwin wrote: »

Scary indeed how this guy wastes €1000 on something that will add precisely nothing in value to his car. He could have got leather or sat nav or something cool but decides to blow it on nothing instead...fair play to him though, it's nutters like him that keep the economy moving!

and that was only for this years car. Same fella had the following


Registration
03LS201
FORD
FOCUS
FREEDOM 1.4
PETROL

Registration
04LS202 (Obvously must have been on the beer this year and slept it out):D
FORD
FOCUS
FREEDOM 5DR 05DR
PETROL


Registration
05LS201
FORD
FOCUS
NT 1.4 FREEDOM 5DR
PETROL

Registration
06LS201
FORD
FOCUS
NT 1.4 FREEDOM 5DR
Fuel Type
PETROL


Registration
07LS201
Make
FORD
FOCUS
NT 1.4 FREEDOM 5DR
PETROL

Registration
08LS201
Make
FORD
FOCUS
STYLE 1.4 80PS 5DR
PETROL


Registration
09LS201
Make:FORD:
FOCUS
STYLE 1.6 90PS 5SP
DIESEL

Registration
10LS201
Make
FORD
FOCUS
STYLE 1.6TDCI 90PS SI 5DR
DIESEL

Registration
11LS201
FORD
FOCUS
STYLE 1.6TDCI 90PS 5DR
DIESEL

Beginning to see a pattern here. Looks as if he likes the Ford Focus:rolleyes:

Absurdum

and he like the lower tax but doesn't mind pissing money away on depreciation

R.O.R

They are all the most basic model available at the time, cheap git.

challengemaster

Money doesn't buy sense....

Is he one of these drive nothing else but Fords folk? I have an uncle like that, he used to change every 3 years for a new one but is retired now and uses public transport a good bit so I think he'll keep his current Fiesta a while more.

colm_mcm

To be fair, he wouldn't have paid extra for any reg other than the one this year,

Used to have a customer who always got 201 as we were the only garage in the county that submitted registrations on the first half of new years day.

Jomcc

colm_mcm wrote: »

To be fair, he wouldn't have paid extra for any reg other than the one this year,

Used to have a customer who always got 201 as we were the only garage in the county that submitted registrations on the first half of new years day.

Was wondering if that was the story. Next time I'm chatting with salesman, must ask him.
How soon can car be registered (if not pre-booking)? Does it have to be registered on 1st January?

colm_mcm

Far as I remember you can load all the details before Xmas once you have the birth cert. a lot of garages don't register everything in one go as it all costs money :-)

bazz26

I'd say the salesperson he buys off every year must look forward to seeing him arriving in to the showroom. Must be costing him at least €4k a year and probably more this year going up to the new model and opting for a personalised number plate.

AugustusMinimus

What an insane waste of money in all aspects of this story.

ThePower11

Recession me hole..

bazz26

In fairness lads, some people go out drinking every weekend, smoke a few packs of cigerettes a day or go on 2 or more holidays a year. Maybe this guy just likes to have a new car every year instead.

I would not do it myself but each to their own.

EPM

bazz26 wrote: »

In fairness lads, some people go out drinking every weekend, smoke a few packs of cigerettes a day or go on 2 or more holidays a year. Maybe this guy just likes to have a new car every year instead.

I would not do it myself but each to their own.

Exactly, and best of luck to him.

Jimdagym

At least this year it's a new model for him/her to be buying too.

galwaytt

bazz26 wrote: »

In fairness lads, some people go out drinking every weekend, smoke a few packs of cigerettes a day or go on 2 or more holidays a year. Maybe this guy just likes to have a new car every year instead.

I would not do it myself but each to their own.

Exactly.

And remember, if guys like him didn't buy new, guys like us would have nothing to buy, used, down the line.....

CamperMan

colm_mcm wrote: »

Maybe he's the lord mayor of Mountmellick or something?

times must be tough for the old mayor if he has to buy a Ford Focus to put the 2012 plate on!

Bobo78

EPM wrote: »

Exactly, and best of luck to him.

+1

It s his choice on what he s gonna spend his money.
We are all different.

johnf2020

I bet he wanted to be the first in Laois to have his new car too so looks like some ejit of a salesman went in on Sunday(new years day) to handover the car--I hope he got overtime:D

Jomcc

johnf2020 wrote: »

I bet he wanted to be the first in Laois to have his new car too so looks like some ejit of a salesman went in on Sunday(new years day) to handover the car--I hope he got overtime:D

Have to disagree with you there. Salesman is no eejit. :rolleyes:
In these times any loyal customer who changes his car every January is worth looking after.

johnf2020

Jomcc wrote: »

Have to disagree with you there. Salesman is no eejit. :rolleyes:
In these times any loyal customer who changes his car every January is worth looking after.

Ger Downey is no ejit and yes, a loyal customer is worth looking after but you know what I mean,,, any customer who cannot wait one day unless its an emergency is a pain in the )(


I'm is sales too and believe me, I will do anything I have to to look after a good customer,but I have a life too and a young family and I would not come in on a Sunday/New years day to hand over a new car to somebody who just wanted to be the first to have it, unless there was some circumstance that the customer specifically needed it(going away,work next day etc). Lifes too short--family comes first.

Jomcc

johnf2020 wrote: »

Ger Downey is no ejit and yes, a loyal customer is worth looking after but you know what I mean,,, any customer who cannot wait one day unless its an emergency is a pain in the )(

Recon you have the wrong Ger.......but know where you're coming from. Agreed that the customer may be a pain in the )( but he buys his Focus there every year. Coming in on 1st Jan to ensure that "the pain in the ass" doesn't go to Colton's Pender's or Dooley's etc for 13-LS-1, 14-LS-1etc is a small price to pay.

I fully agree with you that "Life's too short & family comes first". Suppose, for me, sorting someone out on 1st Jan wouldn't be a peoblem, whereas there are other times when I certainly wouldn't impose on my own time for any customer.

colm_mcm

I'd assume showing him around the car wouldn't take too long either

Jomcc

johnf2020

Just thinking more about your comment.....suppose it depends on the individual situation. If it was a person around same age as myself with a family who just wanted to make sure to be first in county with new car, I'd certainly tell him to rev up and phuck off.
In this case, he's a retired bachelor who doesn't drink or smoke. Obviously, the highlight of his year is to drive the first Ford Focus in Laois on January 1st every year. It seems that the dealership are just humouring him, & I'm sure are charging him well for the pleasure. More power to them. Win, win situation.

pajo1981

ThePower11 wrote: »

Recession me hole..

Sure, because some people bought some cars, there is no recession.

Guy:Incognito

ThePower11 wrote: »

Recession me hole..

Oddly enough there wa one or two cars sold during the 80's too.......

AugustusMinimus

pajo1981 wrote: »

Sure, because some people bought some cars, there is no recession.

Recession is over though. Has been for some time in fact.

johnos1984

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

pajo1981 wrote: »

Sure, because some people bought some cars, there is no recession.

Recession is over though. Has been for some time in fact.

We'll be back in a recession after the first quarter of 2012

bazz26

How long would it take though to actually open up and just go through the paper work with the customer and hand them the keys to the new car? One hour tops?

If I was earning the commission on that car and things were tight in that area then spending an hour in the office on New Year day would not be a big issue for me and I have a young family too. The commission from that sale would go towards paying the mortgage & bills to feed that family.

Kopy

Jomcc wrote: »

Some of you may remember my posts from 2010 and 2011 about a person who changes his car every year and has XX-LS-201 as registration. Always has his car for 1st January.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost....7&postcount=13

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69818291&postcount=22

Well this year, he's decided to be different.



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He did'ent change last year !

There's a Nissan Leaf driving around with that number plate .....11-LS-1

hiscan

Kopy wrote: »

He did'ent change last year !

There's a Nissan Leaf driving around with that number plate .....11-LS-1

He usually gets 201,this year he changed to just the 1.
Read the OP

Kopy

I stand corrected !

Your a very good reader !

johnf2020

Jomcc wrote: »

johnf2020

Just thinking more about your comment.....suppose it depends on the individual situation. If it was a person around same age as myself with a family who just wanted to make sure to be first in county with new car, I'd certainly tell him to rev up and phuck off.
In this case, he's a retired bachelor who doesn't drink or smoke. Obviously, the highlight of his year is to drive the first Ford Focus in Laois on January 1st every year. It seems that the dealership are just humouring him, & I'm sure are charging him well for the pleasure. More power to them. Win, win situation.

All I'll say is that if they are making enough from him, fair enough and more power to them, but speaking from experience, there isn't much commission in Jan deals, unless he doesn't shop around that is!

johnos1984

johnf2020 wrote: »

Jomcc wrote: »

johnf2020

Just thinking more about your comment.....suppose it depends on the individual situation. If it was a person around same age as myself with a family who just wanted to make sure to be first in county with new car, I'd certainly tell him to rev up and phuck off.
In this case, he's a retired bachelor who doesn't drink or smoke. Obviously, the highlight of his year is to drive the first Ford Focus in Laois on January 1st every year. It seems that the dealership are just humouring him, & I'm sure are charging him well for the pleasure. More power to them. Win, win situation.

All I'll say is that if they are making enough from him, fair enough and more power to them, but speaking from experience, there isn't much commission in Jan deals, unless he doesn't shop around that is!

Seperate to the argument are you saying deals are hard to come by in jan if buying new or used?

galwaytt

johnf2020 wrote: »

johnos1984 wrote: »

Seperate to the argument are you saying deals are hard to come by in jan if buying new or used?

I'm saying from a salesmans point of view, that the commissions aren't actually that great as most people shop around at this time of year and for every €100 euro you get knocked off its approx €15 taken from his wage..Most guys selling average brands would be lucky to clear €100 per car, depending what structures are in place in each Garage.
Dealers are quite anxious to sell as many as possible of course and they get rebates from the distributors depending on the numbers they sell, but the salesman doesnt get any of this

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I earned €42 from 2 cars in November,,even though the garage got 2 house charges,2 car preps,bodyshop earned money and i had to put up with all the ****e of selling it and paperwork for €22,before tax

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would you hand a car over on Sun for that

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SORRY,,RANT OVER

I work on whatever day the customer wants to deal on.....so, most Saturdays, lots of Sundays, did 2 meets over the Christmas, and one today. I have 2x small kids too, btw......there aren't so many customers that they can be ignored, or let go elsewhere.....and what did I miss today? Eastlender's Omnibus ?....only took 90 minutes....

veetwin

johnf2020 wrote: »

I'm is sales too and believe me, I will do anything I have to to look after a good customer,but I have a life too and a young family and I would not come in on a Sunday/New years day to hand over a new car to somebody who just wanted to be the first to have it, unless there was some circumstance that the customer specifically needed it(going away,work next day etc). Lifes too short--family comes first.

Pity about you...lots of people have to work on New Years day including people in retail...chances are you ended up in some department store or shopping centre over the weekend which funnily enough were staffed by people with families/struggling etc..why should car salesmen be so cosetted?

(As it happens I also worked yesterday and the day before and Christmas day) sorry, rant over!