(Men) 10 Round Numbers- how many of these can you run in 2012?

RayCun

Name|400m <60secs|800m <3min|1 mile <5min|3k <10min|5k <20min|5mile <30min|10k <40min|10miles <1hr|Half Marathon <90min|Marathon <3hrs

04072511|58.68|2:27.6||||||||
drquirky|||||17:39|29:57|35.42|||
krusty_clown||2:19.51|4:57|9:55|16:58|27:44|34:51|58:37|1:17:19|2:46:39|
RayCun||2.45|||17:55||38.07||1:24:29|
pconn062||2:29:62|||18.23||39.17||1:29:37|
robinph|||||17:48|29:05|||1:23:16|
ecoli||||||27.20|35.26||1:16:20|
Brianderunner|||||||||1:29:35|
n-dawg||2:34||9:35|16:35||34:47|57:22|1:16:33|2:54:03
woddle|||||19:52|||||
Timmaay||2:03|4:47|9:45|16:33||35:14|||
dna_leri||2:12|4:57||16:50|||||
rom||2:49|||19:10|||||
BobMac104|||||19:52|||||
menoscemo||2:39.6|||18:52||39:59.4||1:26:28|
Karpaty|||||||36:18|59:24|1:19:35|2:50:35
Clear Thinking||2.25|||17.15||36:37||84.32|


Just updating my 5k from Rathfarnham. Report here.
No specific 5k training, just the half marathon training

Micilin Muc

Name|400m <60secs|800m <3min|1 mile <5min|3k <10min|5k <20min|5mile <30min|10k <40min|10miles <1hr|Half Marathon <90min|Marathon <3hrs

04072511|58.68|2:27.6||||||||
drquirky|||||17:39|29:57|35.42|||
krusty_clown||2:19.51|4:57|9:55|16:58|27:44|34:51|58:37|1:17:19|2:46:39|
RayCun||2.45|||17:55||38.07||1:24:29|
pconn062||2:29:62|||18.23||39.17||1:29:37|
robinph|||||17:48|29:05|||1:23:16|
ecoli||||||27.20|35.26||1:16:20|
Brianderunner|||||||||1:29:35|
n-dawg||2:34||9:35|16:35||34:47|57:22|1:16:33|2:54:03
woddle|||||19:52|||||
Timmaay||2:03|4:47|9:45|16:33||35:14|||
dna_leri||2:12|4:57||16:50|||||
rom||2:49|||19:10|||||
BobMac104|||||19:52|||||
menoscemo||2:39.6|||18:52||39:59.4||1:26:28|
Karpaty|||||||36:18|59:24|1:19:35|2:50:35
Clear Thinking||2.25|||17.15||36:37||84.32|
Micilín Muc|||||19:54|||||


I remember looking at this thread on New Year's Day and not pressing the "Follow" button as I wasn't anywhere near any of these times. Here I am now

What's the next softest target?! :pac:

RayCun

The 800 is the easiest, then the 5k, then the 10k, then the half-marathon, I think

Pisco Sour

Christ lads, am I still, 9 months in, the only one here capable of running a sub 60 400m? :eek: Surely there must be some that can do that.

wrstan

Pisco Sour wrote: »

Christ lads, am I still, 9 months in, the only one here capable of running a sub 60 400m? :eek: Surely there must be some that can do that.

Maybe you're the only one who has run sub 60, not the only one who is capable!
Perhaps we should organise a boards magic lap challenge, anyone prepared to take on the RD mantle? - Timaay??? Don't you have a vacant F4L slot???

Pisco Sour

wrstan wrote: »

Maybe you're the only one who has run sub 60, not the only one who is capable!
Perhaps we should organise a boards magic lap challenge, anyone prepared to take on the RD mantle? - Timaay??? Don't you have a vacant F4L slot???

There was a bit of irony in my post. It's as clear as day that 2:0x runners can easily go sub 60. It was more a way of egging people on to give the distance a shot. Krusty gave it a shot, but very few others willing to move out of their comfort zone to even bother with a time trial on the track.

RayCun

speaking of comfort zones... I notice that your entries stop abruptly at 800m :pac:

400m races are harder to find than road races, you pretty much have to go to one of the graded meets

actually no, that's probably not it. There's a continuity of training methods from 3k/5k up. Aerobic capacity is very important, and then there's a mix of VO2 training threshold training, whatever, for the particular distances. Train on a track, on grass, on a road, or on a mix... doesn't really matter.
100m, 200m, 400m is a different sort of racing, different sort of training. You need to train on a track, you need to practice starting with blocks, or you're just messing around. So there might be plenty of people who'd give 400m 'a go' if they were at a track, there are fewer who'd interrupt their training to prepare for it.

Pisco Sour

RayCun wrote: »

speaking of comfort zones... I notice that your entries stop abruptly at 800m :pac:

The only events, disciplines and distances I have not attempted in this sport are the Hammer Throw, the Steeplechase, 110m Hurdles and 400m Hurdles so I think, while very poor at most things in the sport, and very average at best at 400m, one thing which can't be said is that I'm afraid to move out of my comfort zone!!

menoscemo

RayCun wrote: »

The 800 is the easiest, then the 5k, then the 10k, then the half-marathon, I think

I'd say the HM is easier than the 10k (though not much in it).

RayCun

menoscemo wrote: »

I'd say the HM is easier than the 10k (though not much in it).

Yeah, do one and you can do the other, but there's a step up to the next number (the 5 mile?)

Krusty_Clown

Pisco Sour wrote: »

The only events, disciplines and distances I have not attempted in this sport are the Hammer Throw, the Steeplechase, 110m Hurdles and 400m Hurdles so I think, while very poor at most things in the sport, and very average at best at 400m, one thing which can't be said is that I'm afraid to move out of my comfort zone!!

You haven't tried any of them this year, which is what this thread is all about. So, go on.. Get out of your comfort zone in 2012 and give the other distances a go. Like I said, I'd try another 400 if there was one available. I think I'm in better shape now (even with the marathon focus) than I was on my last attempt and with spikes and the lessons learned, it'd be worth another shot.

wrstan: I think it was mentioned previously that it doesn't have to be an organized race, as long as it is timed and witnessed (e.g. honest).

wrstan

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Like I said, I'd try another 400 if there was one available. ...

wrstan: I think it was mentioned previously that it doesn't have to be an organized race, as long as it is timed and witnessed (e.g. honest).

Well I wouldn't have any confidence of a sub60 400 (based on my Rathfarnham time yesterday that nice Mr. McMillan will only give me 65s, then add a few for the downhill in the last k!), but if you find yourself near a track at the same time as me, I would be happy to try and push you through the first 200! :rolleyes:

Timmaay

Hmm the next Wicklow f4l certainly isn't going to be a 400 ha, it will probably be a trail race but thats tba yet! However if there is enough demand I certainly could organize afew 400s on the Greystones track some evening/weekend. I have to book the whole track for the hour, so would need enough of ya to come, I'd leave entry at a nominal 5euros! In terms of timing equipment, Manual probably would be good enough for 400m to be bluntly honest, however the easiest way about it is put a decent camera with 60fps+ resolution across the finishline (same way as is done with official timing equipment), then play back the whole video on a high speed video analysis software like Kinovea etc. You'll get a split that is certainly good to a tenth of a second that way!

I did a straight 400, and afew 4x400 relays during the summer myself, but got no official splits on any of them, I think I was about 55secs, which is only ok considering my 800 pb is 2.01. I dipped under 60 for several 800s also, but again no official splits ha! Not that it bothered me much 2bh, I'm certainly not going to complete the table as I'm staying the hell away from the long stuff for now ha!

Timmaay

wrstan wrote: »

Well I wouldn't have any confidence of a sub60 400 (based on my Rathfarnham time yesterday that nice Mr. McMillan will only give me 65s, then add a few for the downhill in the last k!)

Hmm according to McMillian I should only be doing a 59s 400, or 2.08sec 800m based on my 5k time, it all depends on the runner though, some people have most speed than other. Also on your age, in general 35 and under McMillian seems well out on the shorter stuff!

Pisco Sour

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

You haven't tried any of them this year, which is what this thread is all about. So, go on.. Get out of your comfort zone in 2012 and give the other distances a go. Like I said, I'd try another 400 if there was one available. I think I'm in better shape now (even with the marathon focus) than I was on my last attempt and with spikes and the lessons learned, it'd be worth another shot.

wrstan: I think it was mentioned previously that it doesn't have to be an organized race, as long as it is timed and witnessed (e.g. honest).

Haha, I did pretty much all of them this year. Sure my decathlon covered 11 (10 individual events plus decathlon) of the 24 medal events in an Olympic programme in one short weekend! Actually I cant count the hurdles in that as I didn't attempt them.

With regards the long distance stuff in 2012, I ran a 1500m at the decathlon, and a 3000m on the track by myself as a time trial (a pretty awful 12 mins +). I actually wanted to do another 3000m time trial and also a 5000m time trial (or even a 5k race if I could find one that fit into my early winter training) early in the winter also, but then I got sick, and once I recovered it was time to move properly into sprint training on the track.

ecoli

Pisco Sour wrote: »

Haha, I did pretty much all of them this year. Sure my decathlon covered 11 (10 individual events plus decathlon) of the 24 medal events in an Olympic programme in one short weekend! Actually I cant count the hurdles in that as I didn't attempt them.

With regards the long distance stuff in 2012, I ran a 1500m at the decathlon, and a 3000m on the track by myself as a time trial (a pretty awful 12 mins +). I actually wanted to do another 3000m time trial and also a 5000m time trial (or even a 5k race if I could find one that fit into my early winter training) early in the winter also, but then I got sick, and once I recovered it was time to move properly into sprint training on the track.

Perhaps this is why. Longer distance runners dont have the usual on / off season that sprinters can have between XC, Road Racing, track and marathon people generally recover from one before heading straight into another.

There are a few here that have tried and done many of the events. I am pretty sure I have ticked every event in competition bar pole vault the walk and hammer at one stage but does not mean that I am going to stop training from what I enjoy the most and am most focused on to do them every year.

Each to there own at the end of the day you can get as much or as little as you want out of these tables

Karpaty

Name|400m <60secs|800m <3min|1 mile <5min|3k <10min|5k <20min|5mile <30min|10k <40min|10miles <1hr|Half Marathon <90min|Marathon <3hrs

04072511|58.68|2:27.6||||||||
drquirky|||||17:39|29:57|35.42|||
krusty_clown||2:19.51|4:57|9:55|16:58|27:44|34:51|58:37|1:17:19|2:46:39|
RayCun||2.45|||17:55||38.07||1:24:29|
pconn062||2:29:62|||18.23||39.17||1:29:37|
robinph|||||17:48|29:05|||1:23:16|
ecoli||||||27.20|35.26||1:16:20|
Brianderunner|||||||||1:29:35|
n-dawg||2:34||9:35|16:35||34:47|57:22|1:16:33|2:54:03
woddle|||||19:52|||||
Timmaay||2:03|4:47|9:45|16:33||35:14|||
dna_leri||2:12|4:57||16:50|||||
rom||2:49|||19:10|||||
BobMac104|||||19:52|||||
menoscemo||2:39.6|||18:52||39:59.4||1:26:28|
Karpaty|||||17:40||36:18|59:24|1:19:35|2:50:35
Clear Thinking||2.25|||17.15||36:37||84.32|
Micilín Muc|||||19:54|||||


Ticked off 5K @ Liz McDonnell XC :P

robinph

Name|400m <60secs|800m <3min|1 mile <5min|3k <10min|5k <20min|5mile <30min|10k <40min|10miles <1hr|Half Marathon <90min|Marathon <3hrs

04072511|58.68|2:27.6||||||||
drquirky|||||17:39|29:57|35.42|||
krusty_clown||2:19.51|4:57|9:55|16:58|27:44|34:51|58:37|1:17:19|2:46:39|
RayCun||2.45|||17:55||38.07||1:24:29|
pconn062||2:29:62|||18.23||39.17||1:29:37|
robinph|||||17:26|29:05|37:02||1:23:12|
ecoli||||||27.20|35.26||1:16:20|
Brianderunner|||||||||1:29:35|
n-dawg||2:34||9:35|16:35||34:47|57:22|1:16:33|2:54:03
woddle|||||19:52|||||
Timmaay||2:03|4:47|9:45|16:33||35:14|||
dna_leri||2:12|4:57||16:50|||||
rom||2:49|||19:10|||||
BobMac104|||||19:52|||||
menoscemo||2:39.6|||18:52||39:59.4||1:26:28|
Karpaty|||||17:40||36:18|59:24|1:19:35|2:50:35
Clear Thinking||2.25|||17.15||36:37||84.32|
Micilín Muc|||||19:54|||||


Only 4 seconds to be taken off this seasons half time today, and on a far easier course than the time from earlier in the year. Added on my best 2012 10k as well. That's me done for the year now in terms of ticking off any other distances. Best result was getting within 30 seconds of the 10 mile target...next time.

PaulieYifter

Name|400m <60secs|800m <3min|1 mile <5min|3k <10min|5k <20min|5mile <30min|10k <40min|10miles <1hr|Half Marathon <90min|Marathon <3hrs

04072511|58.68|2:27.6||||||||
drquirky|||||17:39|29:57|35.42|||
krusty_clown||2:19.51|4:57|9:55|16:58|27:44|34:51|58:37|1:17:19|2:46:39|
RayCun||2.45|||17:55||38.07||1:24:29|
pconn062||2:29:62|||18.23||39.17||1:29:37|
robinph|||||17:26|29:05|37:02||1:23:12|
ecoli||||||27.20|35.26||1:16:20|
Brianderunner|||||||||1:29:35|
n-dawg||2:34||9:35|16:35||34:47|57:22|1:16:33|2:54:03
woddle|||||19:52|||||
Timmaay||2:03|4:47|9:45|16:33||35:14|||
dna_leri||2:12|4:57||16:50|||||
rom||2:49|||19:10|||||
BobMac104|||||19:52|||||
menoscemo||2:39.6|||18:52||39:59.4||1:26:28|
Karpaty|||||17:40||36:18|59:24|1:19:35|2:50:35
Clear Thinking||2.25|||17.15||36:37||84.32|
Micilín Muc|||||19:54|||||
PaulieYifter|||||19:34||39:37||1:28:13||

n-dawg

Name|400m <60secs|800m <3min|1 mile <5min|3k <10min|5k <20min|5mile <30min|10k <40min|10miles <1hr|Half Marathon <90min|Marathon <3hrs

04072511|58.68|2:27.6||||||||
drquirky|||||17:39|29:57|35.42|||
krusty_clown||2:19.51|4:57|9:55|16:58|27:44|34:51|58:37|1:17:19|2:46:39|
RayCun||2.45|||17:55||38.07||1:24:29|
pconn062||2:29:62|||18.23||39.17||1:29:37|
robinph|||||17:26|29:05|37:02||1:23:12|
ecoli||||||27.20|35.26||1:16:20|
Brianderunner|||||||||1:29:35|
n-dawg||2:34||9:35|16:35||34:47|57:22|1:16:33|2:54:03
woddle|||||19:52|||||
Timmaay||2:03|4:47|9:45|16:33||35:14|||
dna_leri||2:12|4:57||16:50|||||
rom||2:49|||19:10|||||
BobMac104|||||19:52|||||
menoscemo||2:39.6|||18:52||39:59.4||1:26:28|
Karpaty|||||17:40||36:18|59:24|1:19:35|2:50:35
Clear Thinking||2.25|||17.15||36:37||84.32|
Micilín Muc|||||19:54|||||
PaulieYifter|||||19:34||39:37||1:28:13||


No new results for me unfortunately, ran the Amsterdam half in 1:18:xx. A bit gutted that I missed my target of sub 1:15 but to be honest I was behind pace from the start. Interestingly I found the flat and very straight course very tough mentally, I need a hill or two to break things up. On a side note I did get an 8km split of 28:55... are we counting those towards this table? I'm not sure how I feel about adding it but I'll do what everybody else is doing. I have a mile race in November so hopefully that goes well, it'll be on Glasgow's fab new indoor track. And a 5 miler in December, on a nice hilly course:D

Krusty_Clown

n-dawg wrote: »

No new results for me unfortunately, ran the Amsterdam half in 1:18:xx. A bit gutted that I missed my target of sub 1:15 but to be honest I was behind pace from the start. Interestingly I found the flat and very straight course very tough mentally, I need a hill or two to break things up. On a side note I did get an 8km split of 28:55... are we counting those towards this table? I'm not sure how I feel about adding it but I'll do what everybody else is doing. I have a mile race in November so hopefully that goes well, it'll be on Glasgow's fab new indoor track. And a 5 miler in December, on a nice hilly course:D

Official splits are deemed absolutely fine (as long as the first five miles isn't a steady downhill ).

It's looking like the 5k <20 mins, is the most easily reachable target (based on logistics), followed by the sub-40 10k, with 400m the most challenging to attempt (rather than most difficult, before Pisco jumps on his high horse. ).

RayCun

n-dawg wrote: »

On a side note I did get an 8km split of 28:55... are we counting those towards this table?

8k /= 5 miles

RayCun

I'm too lazy to look back in the thread, Krusty, when did you do your 3k?

Krusty_Clown

RayCun wrote: »

I'm too lazy to look back in the thread, Krusty, when did you do your 3k?

April.

RayCun

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

April.

:pac:
Sorry, badly-phrased question.
What race did you do your 3k in? Was it a track 3k? Or a Wicklow fit4life league race?

Krusty_Clown

RayCun wrote: »

:pac:
Sorry, badly-phrased question.
What race did you do your 3k in? Was it a track 3k? Or a Wicklow fit4life league race?

It was a fit4life 'road' 3k, in my local park.

Pisco Sour

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Official splits are deemed absolutely fine (as long as the first five miles isn't a steady downhill ).

It's looking like the 5k <20 mins, is the most easily reachable target (based on logistics), followed by the sub-40 10k, with 400m the most challenging to attempt (rather than most difficult, before Pisco jumps on his high horse. ).

Ha, harsh. Never did I say the 400m is the hardest target. It's probably about 5 or 6th in the list in that regard.

But yeh, you really have to go look for 400m races in Ireland. Plenty of them there (graded meets, county champs, provincial champs, masters champs etc) but you have to be dedicated to source them out, which is not the way the sport should be.

The 800m is by far the easiest. Regardless of races available or lack there of, most people here should be able to go under 3 minutes in a time trial on the track. That's a swift jog to be honest.

Krusty_Clown

Pisco Sour wrote: »

The 800m is by far the easiest. Regardless of races available or lack there of, most people here should be able to go under 3 minutes in a time trial on the track. That's a swift jog to be honest.

I agree with you about it being the easiest, but I would never describe running at 6 minute/mile as being a swift jog, particularly given that it's faster than my proposed pace for the marathon on Monday. If it was a swift jog, then I assume you'd have no trouble at all doing 5k at that pace? Maybe you could lash one out tomorrow (in 18:37), and send us a link, or perhaps it's just not the kind of running a sprinter would be doing. :rolleyes:

Pisco Sour

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I agree with you about it being the easiest, but I would never describe running at 6 minute/mile as being a swift jog, particularly given that it's faster than my proposed pace for the marathon on Monday. If it was a swift jog, then I assume you'd have no trouble at all doing 5k at that pace? Maybe you could lash one out tomorrow (in 18:37), and send us a link, or perhaps it's just not the kind of running a sprinter would be doing. :rolleyes:

That pace for less than 2% of the marathon distance is really not that challenging. I've seen some very slow runners over here manage to crack sub 3. The 5K comparison is irrelevant. That's like saying a 100m in 18 seconds is not a penguin shuffle because it is 5 minute mile pace!!

Krusty_Clown

Pisco Sour wrote: »

That pace for less than 2% of the marathon distance is really not that challenging. I've seen some very slow runners over here manage to crack sub 3. The 5K comparison is irrelevant. That's like saying a 100m in 18 seconds is not a penguin shuffle because it is 5 minute mile pace!!

You described 6 minute mile as a swift jog. That is what I find issue with, not the target itself, which is handy enough. Surely you can run at swift jog pace for three miles? Surely you can manage that? Or else you were being intentionally flippant or snobbish.