Garda Cutbacks on protection

Ruairi88

I don't know if anyone read a particular news paper today. Anyway I will continue...A family who helped to put some members of a notorious Limerick family behind bars, has had their 24 Hour Armed Garda protection removed. The reason we all know..CUTBACKS. Didn't the justice minister state that lives would not be in danger following these cutbacks?

This family was aware of the danger posed to their lives yet still acted as a witness for the state. I think it an absolute disgrace, that these incredibly honest people, put their lives in line for society and this is the way they are rewarded.

2 interesting points are to come out of this. Number (1) The governments program of Austerity and in particular their fondness of cutting Garda services is having a detrimental impact on the force. Number (2) it will deter future witness for the state to come forward. If these people are not offered protection in return for their evidence, why would the bother?

What lies in store for An Garda Siochana?

Happy Christmas folks.

ZoneAlarm

People should not believe everything they read in papers, its called hearsay, Chinese whispers.

Ruairi88

Pal,

The family went to the papers because of the cuts. Not the papers going to them. No rumours, no hear say and no Chinese whispers. If you read the story, instead of giving a premature opinion you would not have come out with the above statement.

The force is suffering because of the governments persistence to cut Garda funding year in year out. My sympathies lies with the force, and we the people who depend on it for their service.

kerry4sam

Ruairi88 wrote: »

I don't know if anyone read a particular news paper today. Anyway I will continue...A family who helped to put some members of a notorious Limerick family behind bars, has had their 24 Hour Armed Garda protection removed. The reason we all know..CUTBACKS. Didn't the justice minister state that lives would not be in danger following these cutbacks?

This family was aware of the danger posed to their lives yet still acted as a witness for the state. I think it an absolute disgrace, that these incredibly honest people, put their lives in line for society and this is the way they are rewarded.

2 interesting points are to come out of this. Number (1) The governments program of Austerity and in particular their fondness of cutting Garda services is having a detrimental impact on the force. Number (2) it will deter future witness for the state to come forward. If these people are not offered protection in return for their evidence, why would the bother?

What lies in store for An Garda Siochana?

Happy Christmas folks.

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

People should not believe everything they read in papers, its called hearsay, Chinese whispers.

Ruairi88 wrote: »

Pal,

The family went to the papers because of the cuts. Not the papers going to them. No rumours, no hear say and no Chinese whispers. If you read the story, instead of giving a premature opinion you would not have come out with the above statement.

The force is suffering because of the governments persistence to cut Garda funding year in year out. My sympathies lies with the force, and we the people who depend on it for their service.

Hi, I've moved these in here from the Garda Reserve Experiences thread as this News-story would be more suitable in here.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm

Ruairi88 wrote: »

Pal,

The family went to the papers because of the cuts. Not the papers going to them. No rumours, no hear say and no Chinese whispers. If you read the story, instead of giving a premature opinion you would not have come out with the above statement.

The force is suffering because of the governments persistence to cut Garda funding year in year out. My sympathies lies with the force, and we the people who depend on it for their service.

First off im not your Pal !!

And second papers will write anything for a story, and as they say, paper never refuses ink.

kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

First off im not your Pal !!

And second papers will write anything for a story, and as they say, paper never refuses ink.

I've moved this in here from the Garda Reserve Experiences thread as this thread is more suitable for this story and continuation of replies.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

munster4868

Ruairi88 wrote: »

I don't know if anyone read a particular news paper today. Anyway I will continue...A family who helped to put some members of a notorious Limerick family behind bars, has had their 24 Hour Armed Garda protection removed. The reason we all know..CUTBACKS. Didn't the justice minister state that lives would not be in danger following these cutbacks?

This family was aware of the danger posed to their lives yet still acted as a witness for the state. I think it an absolute disgrace, that these incredibly honest people, put their lives in line for society and this is the way they are rewarded.

2 interesting points are to come out of this. Number (1) The governments program of Austerity and in particular their fondness of cutting Garda services is having a detrimental impact on the force. Number (2) it will deter future witness for the state to come forward. If these people are not offered protection in return for their evidence, why would the bother?

What lies in store for An Garda Siochana?

Happy Christmas folks.

There's cutbacks everywhere.... What's new here.... People are suffering on a daily basis in every area of society... The health system, social welfare mental health etc etc... This if there is any truth in it is just another cutback!!
NEWSFLASH- the country is broke... I think the point ZA was making in relation to news media is that in the past what was stated as FACT wasn't ... You would really want to here the words spoken from the persons mouth to give any belief to this story... As part of your training program in AGS you are always reminded of hearsay versus fact... Newspapers fall into the hearsay bracket... But what would I know!

ZoneAlarm

Totally true hearsay, as i have said, what about the media bashing of that priest and he was vindicated, as the story was totally untrue, just another media story, its all about the wording that sells papers and other media stuff, how many times have the papers been in court over printing stuff, and then having to retract it.

So unless you know the people involved personally, take it with a pinch of salt like all media waffle, its there to make money nothing else.

realdanbreen

Ruairi88 wrote: »

I don't know if anyone read a particular news paper today. Anyway I will continue...A family who helped to put some members of a notorious Limerick family behind bars, has had their 24 Hour Armed Garda protection removed. The reason we all know..CUTBACKS. Didn't the justice minister state that lives would not be in danger following these cutbacks?

This family was aware of the danger posed to their lives yet still acted as a witness for the state. I think it an absolute disgrace, that these incredibly honest people, put their lives in line for society and this is the way they are rewarded.

2 interesting points are to come out of this. Number (1) The governments program of Austerity and in particular their fondness of cutting Garda services is having a detrimental impact on the force. Number (2) it will deter future witness for the state to come forward. If these people are not offered protection in return for their evidence, why would the bother?

What lies in store for An Garda Siochana?

Happy Christmas folks.

What paper was it in?

deadwood

realdanbreen wrote: »

What paper was it in?

Well, I buy the Particular every day and I missed it.

Ruairi88

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

First off im not your Pal !!

And second papers will write anything for a story, and as they say, paper never refuses ink.

I am well aware paper does not refuse ink. Additionally, I don't believe everything I read. However, I am grateful for the fact that I have some friends who are members. When I put this story to him he confirmed it. He also STATED don't be surprised "things are dire within the force". He took a trip to stores in Santry recently and asked for a particular Garda jacket. He was given a jacket 2x to big for him. His immediate complaint was met with; "It's not a fashion show". If you follow the Garda Review, in which I'm quiet certain you don't; you will find there is talk now of taxing the uniform and boot allowance. Were you aware of this?

munster4868

Ruairi88 wrote: »

I am well aware paper does not refuse ink. Additionally, I don't believe everything I read. However, I am grateful for the fact that I have some friends who are members. When I put this story to him he confirmed it. He also STATED don't be surprised "things are dire within the force". He took a trip to stores in Santry recently and asked for a particular Garda jacket. He was given a jacket 2x to big for him. His immediate complaint was met with; "It's not a fashion show". If you follow the Garda Review, in which I'm quiet certain you don't; you will find there is talk now of taxing the uniform and boot allowance. Were you aware of this?

Hi.. Firstly ZA and myself were addressing your main point of the newspaper article and not the overall cutback that are been currently experienced not just in AGS but in all walks of life in this country...
As you are not aware with your last comment regarding ZA not been aware of the cut backs I would like to point out to you that ZA is currently a serving reserve with 3 years experience and myself with over 4.5 years service so we are only to aware of the cut backs as for what the regular members have to put up with in terms of cut backs in uniform and equipment we have it 10 fold worse.. Reserves would get regulars hand me downs and if they have nothing to hand down well.. We get nothing.. So let me point out that when you are out on the beat the local nutter doesn't say to himself just before he gets stuck into the guards that well I will leave the reserve alone and just get stuck into the regular.. That doesn't happen.. And my life is as important to protect than everybody else's ... So when out on the beat we all should have the proper equipment ... Now as for reading Garda Review.. Ya I do that with every new issue and I would say ZA does also but what's with reading a mag!!! I realise you are currently applying to join the reserves so when/if you are successful in joining you will realise that it has nothing to do with rumours and what you read but has to do with what you experience! Finally, like yourself I do have friends and family members that serve in AGS and only know too well their personal issues they have within their job..
At this stage I wish you the best in your application to join the reserves and be open to the advise that is been dispensed to you.

munster4868

Also, on the point of your friend confirming stories.. He/she should not be talking to anyone who are not members of AGS about issues like this...

Hooch

I have no idea how this was put into a news thread.......but its a news thread for news links. Its not for "I saw in a paper today" nor is it for discussion.

As such I have it moved here. If the OP wishes I can edit the title as necessary.

kerry4sam

Hooch wrote: »

I have no idea how this was put into a news thread.......but its a news thread for news links. Its not for "I saw in a paper today" nor is it for discussion.

As such I have it moved here. If the OP wishes I can edit the title as necessary.

Thanks Hooch. As you can see above it was originally in the Garda Reserve Experiences thread where it had no relevance and is more suited out here in our main ES forum. Thanks for starting this new thread on the story by the op.

kerry4sam

Ruairi88

Talking about jacket sizes isn't exactly a state secret..or is it? And I am aware of you and ZA being members of Garda Reserve. That is why I asked the question..Are ye aware of the tax on allowances? I was seeking information in that regard. I'm unsure if Reserves get allowances towards uniform/equipment maintenance. I don't know why you went of in tangent, talking about the local nutter. I just asked a question and was seeking information, that is all. I don't know why you decided to weigh up the importance of your life to another human being or member . I'm quite sure you value your own personal welfare. My background checks are through, as one Mod put it earlier; Medical is imminent.

Finally, I totally 100% agree in relation to your experience statement. I took the story as solid due to it being backed up by a regular member. I respect advice, however, correct me if I am wrong; I'm totally failing to see any here!

munster4868

Read my post clearly... Your regular member as you said back up your claim in relation to your original post ref newspaper... You are not a member of AGS so things like this should not be discussed with you... In relation to problems with equipment etc.. Your regular member friend should not be discussing this with you either.. The last point isn't a state secret but it's called been professional...
As for my example I chosen to make in relation to the "local nutter" the point I was making was that cut backs effect me also.. Equipment etc etc.. But I am not going into it on a public forum and to you as for reasons I stated above...
Allowences are paid to us and I would suspect these aren't going to be immune to cuts going forward...
As for you seeking information ... Your first post was stating so called fact!!! And your second post was about uniforms and cutbacks... Where was the advise seeking here!!
As for your BR checks been done well done but can I dispense some more information... The limit on reserves is 10% of regular numbers. Regular number next year is going to drop to around 12000 which would leave the reserve level at 1200 currently there is nearly 1000 reserves in place with 2 classes in training. The two classes make up 76 persons.. Leaving approx 124 places left( 3 classes)... It's is not that rare to be waiting another year to get a medical and to wait another few months for phase 1 to begin.. So imminent wouldn't be a word I would use... But everyone's wait is different but as you said giving the cutbacks don't expect the wheels of AGS to turn fast for reserve training especially given the treatment your friend received!!
I think I have made my point in relation to your few posts and won't be commenting any further in relation to cutbacks in AGS.

kerry4sam

Ruairi88 wrote: »

Talking about jacket sizes isn't exactly a state secret..or is it? And I am aware of you and ZA being members of Garda Reserve. That is why I asked the question..Are ye aware of the tax on allowances? I was seeking information in that regard. I'm unsure if Reserves get allowances towards uniform/equipment maintenance. I don't know why you went of in tangent, talking about the local nutter. I just asked a question and was seeking information, that is all. I don't know why you decided to weigh up the importance of your life to another human being or member . I'm quite sure you value your own personal welfare. My background checks are through, as one Mod put it earlier; Medical is imminent.
Finally, I totally 100% agree in relation to your experience statement. I took the story as solid due to it being backed up by a regular member. I respect advice, however, correct me if I am wrong; I'm totally failing to see any here!

Listen good to me now Ruairi88: Re-read the private messages you sent on to me today. You told me you have it received in writing that your background checks are complete. You told me that your medical is imminent.

My reply to you started with: "IF you medical is imminent..." Don't you go putting words in peoples' mouths, especially my mouth! I said "IF your medical is imminent, then you will receive what you came looking to me for ..."

Unless you are referring to another MOD telling you your medical is imminent, then retract that line in your post and don't be putting any wording in my mouth.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm

Ruairi88 wrote: »

Talking about jacket sizes isn't exactly a state secret..or is it? And I am aware of you and ZA being members of Garda Reserve. That is why I asked the question..Are ye aware of the tax on allowances? I was seeking information in that regard. I'm unsure if Reserves get allowances towards uniform/equipment maintenance. I don't know why you went of in tangent, talking about the local nutter. I just asked a question and was seeking information, that is all. I don't know why you decided to weigh up the importance of your life to another human being or member . I'm quite sure you value your own personal welfare. My background checks are through, as one Mod put it earlier; Medical is imminent.

Finally, I totally 100% agree in relation to your experience statement. I took the story as solid due to it being backed up by a regular member. I respect advice, however, correct me if I am wrong; I'm totally failing to see any here!

Reserve members are also taxed on their allowances as well, just in case you think otherwise or anyone else, your equipment supplied is not taxable as of yet, but sure who knows what will come down the line.

When you are out on beat work or whatever you are at as munster pointed out, the person that is trying to be arrested dont care if you me or anyone else is doing this for nothing, all they want is to get away, if that means bashing your brains or whatever they will do it, nobody knows who you are, all they see is a uniform nothing more.

As for people discussing internal matters with outsiders regarding police procedures, i think you will find that is a no no, and defo for people that are on witness protection 24/7, that would be classed as a breech of confidential info, and for someone to post that on an open forum for all to read, and saying it comes from a full time member of AGS you are leaving both yourself and that member open to media speculation, or maybe even more.

Choose your posts carefully "Joe Public" read everything on here !!

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

Listen good to me now Ruairi88: Re-read the private messages you sent on to me today. You told me you have it received in writing that your background checks are complete. You told me that your medical is imminent.

My reply to you started with: "IF you medical is imminent..." Don't you go putting words in peoples' mouths, especially my mouth! I said "IF your medical is imminent, then you will receive what you came looking to me for ..."

Unless you are referring to another MOD telling you your medical is imminent, then retract that line in your post and don't be putting any wording in my mouth.

Thanks,

kerry4sam

I have never never heard of AGS HQ Reserve office writing or emailing anyone informing them that their BR checks are done... Unless they have changed the procedure the only time they inform you of progress is at interview level and medical level... Other than that, this in my opinion is a first...

kerry4sam

munster4868 wrote: »

I have never never heard of AGS HQ Reserve office writing or emailing anyone informing them that their BR checks are done... Unless they have changed the procedure the only time they inform you of progress is at interview level and medical level... Other than that, this in my opinion is a first...

neither have I to be frank with you munster.

ZoneAlarm

Ruairi88 wrote: »

My background checks are through, as one Mod put it earlier; Medical is imminent.

Mmmm how would a MOD on boards know about your BR checks...... unless they work in the reserve office, or have access to it by other means, and if they do they should not be telling you, i was never told my BR checks where done or finished, just got my letter to go for Medical, or as Munster has said they have changed their way of doing things, which i am doubtful, this is now a second person you have put under scrutiny i hope they really appreciate you doing this, i would say they will know you have done this and you will find they will distance themselves from you, if it was me i would.

kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Mmmm how would a MOD on boards know about your BR checks...... unless they work in the reserve office, or have access to it by other means, and if they do they should not be telling you, i was never told my BR checks where done or finished, just got my letter to go for Medical, or as Munster has said they have changed their way of doing things, which i am doubtful, this is now a second person you have put under scrutiny i hope they really appreciate you doing this, i would say they will know you have done this and you will find they will distance themselves from you, if it was me i would.

Just to note: this Ruairi88 poster NOW has a CLOSED ACCOUNT.

ZoneAlarm

kerry4sam wrote: »

Just to note: this Ruairi88 poster NOW has a CLOSED ACCOUNT.

mmm ............. Truth hurts !!

munster4868

:rolleyes:

R88

Ruairí88/R88.... in a reply to both ZoneAlarm and Munster; I have apologized for the way the posts came out. Just to clarify them and put them a bit simpler here; In relation to confirmation of cutbacks it wasn't in relation to any particular case but just a general statement that yes there is cutbacks so no confidential information or anything like that shared (God I wish there would be, I might even feel a little important in myself haha)..Ye 2 guys already know that, ye are 2 serving Reserve Members. In relation to HQ ringing me and writing to me. The sent back my BR as my sister built a house and I gave the wrong address (accidental of coarse). When I rang them I just asked how was my background checks going, the lady said fine, just waiting on the right address. I think the choice of wording is crucial in making a point and not leaving yourself open to people taking it up wrong. I appreciate the advice both ZoneAlarm and Munster gave to me, thanks guys. Oh almost forgot I just heard 2 Gardaí chatting about getting their jackets in stores they were actually laughing at it.

Munster/Zonealarm I have a question for you. As Munster rightly stated the wait could be longer than what I thought. I know the reserve figure of 10% was set out on stall, however was it set out at the time that the 10% would of been that of 14,000 or will the 10% be that of the current strength?

Thanks Guys
Ruairí88/R88

munster4868

R88 wrote: »

Ruairí88/R88.... in a reply to both ZoneAlarm and Munster; I have apologized for the way the posts came out. Just to clarify them and put them a bit simpler here; In relation to confirmation of cutbacks it wasn't in relation to any particular case but just a general statement that yes there is cutbacks so no confidential information or anything like that shared (God I wish there would be, I might even feel a little important in myself haha)..Ye 2 guys already know that, ye are 2 serving Reserve Members. In relation to HQ ringing me and writing to me. The sent back my BR as my sister built a house and I gave the wrong address (accidental of coarse). When I rang them I just asked how was my background checks going, the lady said fine, just waiting on the right address. I think the choice of wording is crucial in making a point and not leaving yourself open to people taking it up wrong. I appreciate the advice both ZoneAlarm and Munster gave to me, thanks guys. Oh almost forgot I just heard 2 Gardaí chatting about getting their jackets in stores they were actually laughing at it.

Munster/Zonealarm I have a question for you. As Munster rightly stated the wait could be longer than what I thought. I know the reserve figure of 10% was set out on stall, however was it set out at the time that the 10% would of been that of 14,000 or will the 10% be that of the current strength?

Thanks Guys
Ruairí88/R88

As far as I know (95% sure) the limit of reserves would be 10% of the current level of the regular force at the time of recruiting new reserves - now as the size of the force is dropping given all the cut backs and the target level of the regular force is set at between 12,000 - 12500 then I would say that the limit size of the reserve force is set at 1200 - 1250 (give or take a few on either side of those numbers).... I think with whats in training at the moment there is room for another 3 to 4 classes of reserves until the limit size of reserves are met!!....
Now in saying this - people leave the reserve force so numbers would have to be topped up so recruitment will always continue but maybe at a slower pace!
As I said R88, sometimes things on here run a little hot from time to time but I don't take anything to heart so apology accepted and lets all move on and do what we do best and that is to help each other...(-:
There's and old saying "What's for you, won't pass you" .... be positive but be prepared for a wait and in time you will be successful in joining the reserve force... it's a GREAT experience and a privilege...
Good Luck in your application process. M4868

R88

Thanks Munster! Appreciate that.

Ruairi88/R88

kerry4sam

Ruairi88 wrote: »

Talking about jacket sizes isn't exactly a state secret..or is it? And I am aware of you and ZA being members of Garda Reserve. That is why I asked the question..Are ye aware of the tax on allowances? I was seeking information in that regard. I'm unsure if Reserves get allowances towards uniform/equipment maintenance. I don't know why you went of in tangent, talking about the local nutter. I just asked a question and was seeking information, that is all. I don't know why you decided to weigh up the importance of your life to another human being or member . I'm quite sure you value your own personal welfare. My background checks are through, as one Mod put it earlier; Medical is imminent.

Finally, I totally 100% agree in relation to your experience statement. I took the story as solid due to it being backed up by a regular member. I respect advice, however, correct me if I am wrong; I'm totally failing to see any here!

kerry4sam wrote: »

Listen good to me now Ruairi88: Re-read the private messages you sent on to me today. You told me you have it received in writing that your background checks are complete. You told me that your medical is imminent.

My reply to you started with: "IF you medical is imminent..." Don't you go putting words in peoples' mouths, especially my mouth! I said "IF your medical is imminent, then you will receive what you came looking to me for ..."

Unless you are referring to another MOD telling you your medical is imminent, then retract that line in your post and don't be putting any wording in my mouth.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

R88, apologising to me in private is one thing & I did accept. Your requests to me have been passed on and I am awaiting replies.

However, you have yet to retract that line in bold above on this public forum R88. I would appreciate it now if you would!

Thanks,
kerry4sam

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

R88, apologising to me in private is one thing & I did accept. Your requests to me have been passed on and I am awaiting replies.

However, you have yet to retract that line in bold above on this public forum R88. I would appreciate it now if you would!

Thanks,
kerry4sam

Hi Kerry: what does that mean (in bold).... From what I can see here is that a problem arose in here between me, ZA you and R88. And is now sorted, thanks R88.. I think, and it's only my opinion, that problems sometimes arise when you begin to have a discussion about a subject both in a public forum and through PM's... People aren't aware of the full details that is been discussed because they don't know the contents of those PM's and righty so... But people begin to get all the wrong ends of the stick... See, neither me or ZA knew that PM's were been passed between you or R88 and requests were been passed along!! Then we started to post and now I think got caught in the middle of something..
I think the easiest thing for me now is to unfollow this tread.
Thanks M4868

kerry4sam

munster4868 wrote: »

Hi Kerry: what does that mean (in bold).... From what I can see here is that a problem arose in here between me, ZA you and R88. And is now sorted, thanks R88.. I think, and it's only my opinion, that problems sometimes arise when you begin to have a discussion about a subject both in a public forum and through PM's... People aren't aware of the full details that is been discussed because they don't know the contents of those PM's and righty so... But people begin to get all the wrong ends of the stick... See, neither me or ZA knew that PM's were been passed between you or R88 and requests were been passed along!! Then we started to post and now I think got caught in the middle of something..
I think the easiest thing for me now is to unfollow this tread.
Thanks M4868

Persistence and honesty.
R88 needs to clarify himself and he needs to correct a line in a post of his! It is between now R88 and myself munster.

Thanks for your concern though.The Now R88 wrongfully put words in my mouth that I am asking he retract.

This thread has derailed from the opening post anyways.
kerry4sam.

goldie fish

I hate it when mummy and daddy fight....

kerry4sam

goldie fish wrote: »

I hate it when mummy and daddy fight....

awww



:pac:

bluetop

There is something funny going on here now mods passing on info to get clarified by all reckoning this could be misconstrued as BR checks been done by someone in the know maybe in Hq or by the help of a full time member who is a mod on here defo needs clarification thats for sure

goldie fish

bluetop wrote: »

There is something funny going on here now mods passing on info to get clarified by all reckoning this could be misconstrued as BR checks been done by someone in the know maybe in Hq or by the help of a full time member who is a mod on here defo needs clarification thats for sure

i wish you used punctuation otherwise it is impossible to tell what you are saying like one day i was saying this to my mate and he agreed completely because its very hard to get what point you are trying to make if any at all welcome to the site though are you new to the internet also ive been on the internet since i discovered it in 1999 and think its great it beats reading books

bluetop

yes only got new laptop and left school early so punctuation would not be my strong point sorryy

munster4868

IS it a Dora the explorer laptop... Had to get this in before the tread gets shut... Lol

kerry4sam

bluetop wrote: »

There is something funny going on here now mods passing on info to get clarified by all reckoning this could be misconstrued as BR checks been done by someone in the know maybe in Hq or by the help of a full time member who is a mod on here defo needs clarification thats for sure

goldie fish wrote: »

i wish you used punctuation otherwise it is impossible to tell what you are saying like one day i was saying this to my mate and he agreed completely because its very hard to get what point you are trying to make if any at all welcome to the site though are you new to the internet also ive been on the internet since i discovered it in 1999 and think its great it beats reading books

bluetop wrote: »

yes only got new laptop and left school early so punctuation would not be my strong point sorryy

okay. Punctuation aside here.

BRchecks on here? Not that I am aware of. A closed account => A now new account by someone on here is in question. Relevant to mod's on here so we can identify each poster and not mix up or confuse with other posters or incidents or accusations by posters on this public forum.

Thanks though for your concern.

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

okay. Punctuation aside here.

BRchecks on here? Not that I am aware of. A closed account => A now new account by someone on here is in question. Relevant to mod's on here so we can identify each poster and not mix up or confuse with other posters or incidents or accusations by posters on this public forum.

Thanks though for your concern.

Fair point with the new account and closed account but hea I haven got a clue on that one!
But Kerry, as you posted this yourself in an earlier post...
I will ask it once more how are you helping R88 in relation to passing along things and awaiting replys... I know there is a simple answer to it but to avoid anyone else looking on here and pickIng up what was posted by you in the wrong fashion maybe it migh be a good idea to clear up how are you helping R88 in your PM's
Thanks M4868

bluetop

Conspiracy theory im sure glad I don’t have to try and figure it out that’s for sure but kerry you have left yourself open by admitting you are now waiting for information to come back it does look very suspicious don’t ya think

WilcoOut

very unusual kerry

you always knew a bit too much about dates of intakes and numbers within these intakes.......................

if whats being said is true, you would want to thread very carefully..........

munster4868

Well.. As I said in my pm to Kerry tonight that I WILL be closing my account tomorrow as I now feel that I can't trust boards anymore... The reason I didn't close account yet is that I am trying to be respectful to the many fine people on here that I got to know over the years I spent on here and say goodbye..
Respect
M4868
Ps I will not be opening up another account...

R88

K4S, I apologized for the way the posts came out and not the posts themselves. I deleted my account, as already stated the posts came out the wrong way and as you rightly said this is a public forum and it is open to interpretation by anyone. (I wont leave myself open again). However over the past few days it was bugging me and I felt I needed to clarify my posts I owed it to Munster, ZoneAlarm, yourself and anyone else who took it up wrong. I should of worded better. I have no problem retracting that line, however, my old account is closed so your the mod you'll have to clean the house up on that side.

Munster just to clarify and in fairness to Kerry4S, he/she is not helping me at all. I PM he/she and asked her a question in relation to the Garda Reserve and back ground checks (just a general question) no inside info or anything like that. It's the way I posted as stated "posts came out wrong way", that is where I think the confusion stems from. About "info coming back" it's nothing got to do with the Reserves; but just to a particular post. I think as Munster rightly put it I need to un-subscribe myself. So no conspiracy theories or anything like that just a little mix up in the choice of words that were used. Again Apologies.

Ruairi88/R88.

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kerry4sam

R88 wrote: »

K4S, I apologized for the way the posts came out and not the posts themselves. I deleted my account, as already stated the posts came out the wrong way and as you rightly said this is a public forum and it is open to interpretation by anyone. (I wont leave myself open again). However over the past few days it was bugging me and I felt I needed to clarify my posts I owed it to Munster, ZoneAlarm, yourself and anyone else who took it up wrong. I should of worded better. I have no problem retracting that line, however, my old account is closed so your the mod you'll have to clean the house up on that side.

Munster just to clarify and in fairness to Kerry4S, he/she is not helping me at all. I PM he/she and asked her a question in relation to the Garda Reserve and back ground checks (just a general question) no inside info or anything like that. It's the way I posted as stated "posts came out wrong way", that is where I think the confusion stems from. About "info coming back" it's nothing got to do with the Reserves; but just to a particular post. I think as Munster rightly put it I need to un-subscribe myself. So no conspiracy theories or anything like that just a little mix up in the choice of words that were used. Again Apologies.

Ruairi88/R88.

That's good enough for me.

Thank You
kerry4sam

Turner

Ok Ladies and Gents this thread has been way off topic for a while.

It was originally about Garda cutbacks and protection.

I havent read through it all yet but I believe it has descended into talk about the Garda Reserve and background checks. I have also seen BRchecks mentioned although i dont know what they are...

If anybody wants to find out anything about what somebody has posted here please request it by pm to that poster and continue the conversation by pm.

Hijacking a thread is a breach of the charter.

This thread is locked for now and I may delete all off topic threads once i review it, so if anybody wants to keep their posts i suggest they copy/paste them somewhere else so they can continue any conversation by pm.

Turner.