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Being Filmed? (A What if)

  • 28-12-2011 11:55pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Heres one.

    If you are a citizen You are allowed to film in public or even at your own front door.
    If you should have a confrontation with a police officer you still have to right to film them and they cant stop you free country and all that s it.

    But As a human in public or in your own private home you have the right to object being filmed by another citizen therefore you are denying access to be published in any way to be filmed or photographed. You can also bring them to court.

    So in the intance that im to police officer.
    What i am in life is... a human, in a uniform, with the backing up of several hundred or so law abiding people :pac:
    So even though im helpless as a police officer to arrest you for a non crime can i still bring you to court as a citizen, contesting the fact i dont know you, and you could be any sort of person, and only god knows what strange fantacies you might be doing with a video of me :P:pac:

    :D
    This is a video in relation to my question





    The what if... Series 1 coming to a dvd near you soon!:pac:


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Pass the spliff dude.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Agustin Unsightly Treasury


    what if you sense make good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    A WTF you mean


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    ....................................wha?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭the scrote


    thats easy for you to say op


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Or you could just not give a ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭maxfresh


    :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    they are rather tight over filming each other here,eg; cant have security cameras on the house which see over the persons private boundary and records random people.
    however,the police dont give a sht over pesky tourists and others meddling on peoples photos.
    strange but they seem to have more laws against taking photos than using airguns innocently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    Pass the spliff dude.

    Would he be allowed film you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Heres one.

    If you are a citizen You are allowed to film in public or even at your own front door.
    If you should have a confrontation with a police officer you still have to right to film them and they cant stop you free country and all that s it.

    Bit of an oxymoron there.

    afaik, the police can ask you to stop filming a potential crime scene just as they have the authority to ask you to leave that potential crime scene.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭cocalolaman


    Oooo he card read good!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Heres one.

    If you are a citizen You are allowed to film in public or even at your own front door.
    If you should have a confrontation with a police officer you still have to right to film them and they cant stop you free country and all that s it.

    But As a human in public or in your own private home you have the right to object being filmed by another citizen therefore you are denying access to be published in any way to be filmed or photographed. You can also bring them to court.

    So in the intance that im to police officer.
    What i am in life is... a human, in a uniform, with the backing up of several hundred or so law abiding people :pac:
    So even though im helpless as a police officer to arrest you for a non crime can i still bring you to court as a citizen, contesting the fact i dont know you, and you could be any sort of person, and only god knows what strange fantacies you might be doing with a video of me :P:pac:

    :D

    The what if... Series 1 coming to a dvd near you soon!:pac:

    *Sigh* Just tell us what you're after doing ;)
    We wont judge you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Say that to the Judge, he wouldn't send you jail but Gormans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    You can film for home use but no, not for sale or download. It's not going to be passed much by authorities anymore. Not after Colin Farrell anyaways what:D
    Tell you what though, don't listen to them and post here on boards and we'll all say nothing. We're all best ffriesnts here so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    chucken1 wrote: »
    *Sigh* Just tell us what you're after doing ;)
    We wont judge you!

    See the vid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    Meanwhile in High Wycombe, PC's Chris and Andy run into some SCUMBAGS illegally videotaping a potential crime scene....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Chuck was taken


    Something like that happened to me before. I was stopped by the Garda (at a check point) and decided to film it. Then some ban-guard grabbed the camera straight out of my hand's and said I have no right to film in public!!
    So I jumped out of my car and went over to a older man sitting in their van and told him what happened. He came storming over to her and started to shout and tell her she couldn't do that etc etc. As I left I just beeped and gave her a wave to píss her off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    my question is this ________________________________________

    shannon tek you should probably fill in the blank keeping it to one sentance

    whiskey tango foxtrot :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Saila wrote: »
    my question is this ________________________________________

    shannon tek you should probably fill in the blank keeping it to one sentance

    whiskey tango foxtrot :confused:

    :confused::eek::confused::eek::confused::eek::(:confused::(:confused::eek::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    People were suspicious and afraid photography as it was becoming popular, it was evil but by the time we were growing up we usually didn't question people taking photos in public and the terrible things they would use them for.

    I hope future generations have the same attitude to video recording as they do to photography, If you can see me you can record me unless Im in a vulnerable position (i.e the man that slipped on the ice :D)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    You are not allowed to film a Garda doing their job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Chuck was taken


    Sky King wrote: »
    You are not allowed to film a Garda doing their job.

    Uh..yeah, you are. Although they can say they don't want to be filmed. Just point your camera to the ground and record what they say...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Sky King wrote: »
    You are not allowed to film a Garda doing their job.
    So it's ok to film Gardai. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    I wish I was drunk.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Heres one.

    If you are a citizen You are allowed to film in public or even at your own front door.
    If you should have a confrontation with a police officer you still have to right to film them and they cant stop you free country and all that s it.

    But As a human in public or in your own private home you have the right to object being filmed by another citizen therefore you are denying access to be published in any way to be filmed or photographed. You can also bring them to court.

    So in the intance that im to police officer.
    What i am in life is... a human, in a uniform, with the backing up of several hundred or so law abiding people :pac:
    So even though im helpless as a police officer to arrest you for a non crime can i still bring you to court as a citizen, contesting the fact i dont know you, and you could be any sort of person, and only god knows what strange fantacies you might be doing with a video of me :P:pac:

    :D
    This is a video in relation to my question





    The what if... Series 1 coming to a dvd near you soon!:pac:


    Your Post hurts my brain but I've underlined and bolded your issue's
    I think they contradict each other IF I understand your Engrish and that's a big IF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Op,

    This is an Irish website so why talk about a "free country" and post a video from a foreign country when trying to make a point? :confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Lady von Purple


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Your Post hurts my brain but I've underlined and bolded your issue's
    I think they contradict each other IF I understand your Engrish and that's a big IF

    I *think* I get that bit. Maybe.
    The OP *may * mean that every individual has the right to record events happening around them/people around them, but said person being recorded has the same amount of right to ask not to be filmed/for the recording not to be published.
    IE, a case of the citizen's right to free speech (well, free expression) versus the citizen's right to privacy.

    I don't think that's true though, I think the individual has the ability and the opportunity to record people/events. That doesn't mean they have the right. So in a versus situation, the person being unwillingly recorded is completely within their rights to object.

    As for the rest of the post, I have no clue. :confused::confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    You are aloud record what you like whilst in public - and so long as what you are recording is in public. (Ie. You are not invading someones privicy by taping through their window) Also, unless they sign a model release then you are not aloud to make any profits from the picture, or use it for any form of advertising.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Paco Rodriguez


    Anyone remember 'definethelaw' on youtube. He is now banned but he went around recording things on his ipod. Mostly customer service issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I *think* I get that bit. Maybe.
    The OP *may * mean that every individual has the right to record events happening around them/people around them, but said person being recorded has the same amount of right to ask not to be filmed/for the recording not to be published.
    IE, a case of the citizen's right to free speech (well, free expression) versus the citizen's right to privacy.

    I don't think that's true though, I think the individual has the ability and the opportunity to record people/events. That doesn't mean they have the right. So in a versus situation, the person being unwillingly recorded is completely within their rights to object.

    As for the rest of the post, I have no clue. :confused::confused:

    Had he developed his post a bit more, he wouldn't have exposed himself to ridicule.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I *think* I get that bit. Maybe.
    The OP *may * mean that every individual has the right to record events happening around them/people around them, but said person being recorded has the same amount of right to ask not to be filmed/for the recording not to be published.
    IE, a case of the citizen's right to free speech (well, free expression) versus the citizen's right to privacy.

    I don't think that's true though, I think the individual has the ability and the opportunity to record people/events. That doesn't mean they have the right. So in a versus situation, the person being unwillingly recorded is completely within their rights to object.

    As for the rest of the post, I have no clue. :confused::confused:

    Had he developed his post a bit more, he wouldn't have exposed himself to ridicule.

    Well I'm sorry if I have an English problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Anyone remember 'definethelaw' on youtube. He is now banned but he went around recording things on his ipod. Mostly customer service issues.

    After watching a few of those videos it's clear he was a douchebag of the highest order. I particularly enjoy his Best Buy video where he complained needlessly that they wanted him to return the Gift Card he got as a bundle deal with the TV he wanted to return. The video cuts off rather shortly but we get to see handcuffs come out.



    I like how he tries to be boss of the law, and finds himself on the wrong side of it. He had no right to film inside the store once he was asked. "You're not a lawyer..." Well dumbass, neither are you. Lawyers don't have that much free time to run around yelling at bus drivers, gas attendants, and retail workers.

    I love that girl. Cute AND she out-lawyered him. The video is missing from his website :) most of the videos on the site are mundane as hell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Well i hope he's ? ? ? anymore. what an arrogant ... :eek:

    1st i cant understand though why she couldnt just give him his money or food and just give a long big spiel. Bring him to court for recording her face without consent. in a private place. Presuming if i go on what others have said that even though the public may use it. Its a private commercial property in this case by BurgerKing fast food chain. Who.. Have the right to deny access to filming on their premises/their staff.
    For all she could have known was he is some sex offender. Recording her mug to jack off to..

    In this Article it outline about Recording. not that i think its much good here. Im trying to find a law. But everything clashes with the Bill of rights and 1st Amendment. But we dont live in the US of A so basically i can through that out the window.

    But honestly. There has to be a way, She could bring him to court now(not that she will succeed) for him putting her face up on Youtube without her consent. Thats surely a crime?

    Think i understand now. though the part where you can record anywhere in public and people dont have a say because ....
    A Your not using them in a documentary
    B. While even though on Youtube. you have not placed the camera in their face or intentionality recorded them. They just happened to get in the way. Therefore they are only in the background.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 92 ✭✭Chuck was taken


    AFAIK, You can film anytime once your in a public place. But, if someone doesn't want you to film them they have the right to tell you to not film them.


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