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Car Keyed - need fix.

  • 28-12-2011 5:01pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭


    Thanks to a lovely person in liffey valley carpark i now have a new deisgn on my car.


    was over in trimtech today and they said they would re-spray the side of the car and they quoted me €550 for a full days work (8am - 5pm) and would have to make my own way about. have spare cars in the drive to myself so no problem there.

    will be going over to Gerry Maguires to see what they say too.

    my questions how much would a job like this normally cost ?

    when they say they are going to respray the side are they going to fix the scratch themselfs too so their not just spraying over it ?

    and do you guys have any other recommendations ?

    thanks gods !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Yeah, from looking at the pictures it would be very hard to repair that properly without painting the adjoining panels.

    550 quid sounds reasonable for this job IMO, but it all depends on the quality of the work I suppose. Jerry McGuire's will be more expensive I'd say, but the quality of work is top notch.

    What is the car as a matter of interest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Yeah, from looking at the pictures it would be very hard to repair that properly without painting the adjoining panels.

    550 quid sounds reasonable for this job IMO, but it all depends on the quality of the work I suppose. Jerry McGuire's will be more expensive I'd say, but the quality of work is top notch.

    What is the car as a matter of interest?

    Recent shape civic (2007)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    looks like a honda civic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭puppetmaster


    Id second what Drummerboy said, Be tough to get that out with a compound, Might be possible considering its a door and not polyurathene bumper, Might be worth a shot if your gona shell out and get it resprayed anyway.

    550 sounds reasonable for doing a whole side once they do a good job, they'd have to be fairly tidy to match a 5 year old red properly.I Feel your pain though, Someone drove into the back of me in a carpark recently and headed off on their merry way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭String


    Would a smart repair be possible? or maybe filling in the scratch and buffing it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Id second what Drummerboy said, Be tough to get that out with a compound, Might be possible considering its a door and not polyurathene bumper, Might be worth a shot if your gona shell out and get it resprayed anyway.

    550 sounds reasonable for doing a whole side once they do a good job, they'd have to be fairly tidy to match a 5 year old red properly.I Feel your pain though, Someone drove into the back of me in a carpark recently and headed off on their merry way.

    the third image there is of the bumper... the bit that looks kinda like a black line is actually a keyed part. Its a plastic bumper as you say.

    ok so i can gather 550 is a good price.

    the crowd is trim tech - went over to swords and they gave me that price but the job will be done on the naas road as its closer to home.

    anybody any experience of them - should i or not go with them ?

    any other recommendations ?

    cheers again !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    DrMorphine wrote: »
    Would a smart repair be possible? or maybe filling in the scratch and buffing it?

    It looks to deep, and too big for a smart repair. That's usually what Trimtech do, so if they're opting for a full repair then I'd imagine it can't be done.

    It looks like a non-metallic colour too, would be hard enough to match that up without painting the whole panel IMO. Chances are it's faded a bit in it's 5 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    €550 seems like a very good price to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    It looks to deep, and too big for a smart repair. That's usually what Trimtech do, so if they're opting for a full repair then I'd imagine it can't be done.

    It looks like a non-metallic colour too, would be hard enough to match that up without painting the whole panel IMO. Chances are it's faded a bit in it's 5 years.

    sorry the pictures were only taking there a few moments ago not in the best of light.

    another image for you of the car for color


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭garhjw


    what a scumbag to damage such a well maintained car. OP, sorry for your pain. any cctv in the carpark too shed any light?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    garhjw wrote: »
    what a scumbag to damage such a well maintained car. OP, sorry for your pain. any cctv in the carpark too shed any light?

    sadly not where i was parked. quite a bit away as it was christmas.

    i wasnt the only one either ... saw two other cars with the same damage.


    useless lil ****s so they are !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    Had the same thing happen in liffey valley couple of years ago, havent been there is ages cos of it, pure scum!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    DonJose wrote: »
    Had the same thing happen in liffey valley couple of years ago, havent been there is ages cos of it, pure scum!!!

    terrible alright indeed.



    anyway anyone any recommendations on this ?

    or will i just go with trim tech and let them do it ? (i will check with gerry maguir first though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    just another question on this.

    they want to re-spray the entire side of the car to blend in the scratch and what not.

    but how will this blend in with the back and front and other side of the car ?

    thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Seek out Mark Donnelly in Rathangan my friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Seek out Mark Donnelly in Rathangan my friend.

    how would one find him ?

    did a google search and seems like a hard man to find ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Not sure of his number but his dad Christy Donnelly also has a garage in Rathangan and he is definitely in the book, give him a call and he will direct ya to Mark. Fantastic painter etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭8bi1ctzegfouva


    Carcraft in Ballybough are very good. I got a great deal off them before Christmas. Very good job and great price. €350 for both passenger side doors, rear wing and rear bumper. Highly recommended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Not sure of his number but his dad Christy Donnelly also has a garage in Rathangan and he is definitely in the book, give him a call and he will direct ya to Mark. Fantastic painter etc.
    Carcraft in Ballybough are very good. I got a great deal off them before Christmas. Very good job and great price. €350 for both passenger side doors, rear wing and rear bumper. Highly recommended.

    cheers, will call both of these tomorrow - got christy's number off golden pages.

    the cheaper i can do this the better but with best result too :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Might be worth getting a quote from chipsaway in Swords as well, I've a patch of rust on my wheel arch that needs fixing and they were far more competitive than trimtech, they are mainly smart repairs, but it was worth my while getting a quote from them.

    My OH also had his car keyed in a car part, not it was only one door, and the scratches were not deep and they quoted €180 to deal with it. I checked with my mechanic who had heard of them and was happy to recommend them based on his customers experience.

    Costs nothing to get a quote.

    www.chipsaway.ie is their site, nothing to do with me. Trimtech quoted me the same as you to deal with my wheelarch, chipsaway were 2/3 of the cost.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Stheno wrote: »
    Might be worth getting a quote from chipsaway in Swords as well, I've a patch of rust on my wheel arch that needs fixing and they were far more competitive than trimtech, they are mainly smart repairs, but it was worth my while getting a quote from them.

    My OH also had his car keyed in a car part, not it was only one door, and the scratches were not deep and they quoted €180 to deal with it. I checked with my mechanic who had heard of them and was happy to recommend them based on his customers experience.

    Costs nothing to get a quote.

    www.chipsaway.ie is their site, nothing to do with me. Trimtech quoted me the same as you to deal with my wheelarch, chipsaway were 2/3 of the cost.

    thank you.. am getting calls for these ready for the morning !


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    thank you.. am getting calls for these ready for the morning !

    I can pm you the mobile number for the guy in swords if you like? Very helpful he was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Stheno wrote: »
    I can pm you the mobile number for the guy in swords if you like? Very helpful he was.

    i filled out the form online and they automatically picked the specialist in my area and he will call me in 24hrs.

    so i wreckon they have different people for different areas.

    but i am shopping around before going with anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    but i am shopping around before going with anything.

    Try see some samples of the garages work before you make a decision, this is the kind of job that needs doing properly, take it from somebody who had a car sprayed by somebody that made a bags of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Touch up pen, 550 euro at christmas seriously op do it yourself, come the summer if its still botherng you get it done, u would be surprised how quickly this would become a ñon issue once covered up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    Touch up pen, 550 euro at christmas seriously op do it yourself, come the summer if its still botherng you get it done, u would be surprised how quickly this would become a ñon issue once covered up.

    i figured from what others say it might be too deep to use a touch up pen ?


    trim tech guy said im looking at a white line now that if he just touched it up i'd be looking at a red line with a bit of a indent :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    Its a nice car OP, get it fixed or it will annoy you all the time. I believe you stated you worked 2 jobs for a while so cough it up :D:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Its a nice car OP, get it fixed or it will annoy you all the time. I believe you stated you worked 2 jobs for a while so cough it up :D:)

    indeed.

    i have no real problem paying for the fix, just want it done properly and just dont want to be ripped off either.

    but im also using the logic that if one shop is selling a bar of chocolate for 80c and another shop sells the same bar of chocolate for €1.00 then i want to go with the cheaper one for the same price.

    but its mainly about the work carried out that it gets done well.

    thanks for the compliment there !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    Wait for the motors meet in jan, maybe owen will go and advise


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Wait for the motors meet in jan, maybe owen will go and advise

    maybe.


    I will be taking quotes from the companies people recommended here.

    I might do just that to be honest - its only a scratch - its not doing any damage to the car or how it move by being there so its not bothering me too much.

    I will say thank you to all the recommendations and so on that i got in the thread here and i will be getting quotes and writing them all down and who they are from and what they want to do.

    and i might wait for the meet in Jan to show it to ye lads to see what you all make of it.

    thanks for that suggestion !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭browner85


    CHIPS AWAY GILMARTIN TELL EM BROWNER SENT YE , DONE A GOOD JOB ON MY CAR FOR 250 .. GOOGLE EM OR I CAN PM U HIS NO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    browner85 wrote: »
    CHIPS AWAY GILMARTIN TELL EM BROWNER SENT YE , DONE A GOOD JOB ON MY CAR FOR 250 .. GOOGLE EM OR I CAN PM U HIS NO

    i have a chipsaway guy coming to me already but pm me the number there anyway and we'll see if they charge different.

    thank you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Wolverine_1999


    €550 for keyed repair, are you mental :eek:

    There MUST be something more reasonable than that. A friend of mine recently paid €180 for a much deeper scratch to be repaired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭eg6 vtec


    i did a job on a car with just about the same damage as you have, take a look at our facebook page and see what we did with it and the end result, pm me if you need a price ;)

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.151184041643908.31942.123050261123953&type=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    €550 for keyed repair, are you mental :eek:

    There MUST be something more reasonable than that. A friend of mine recently paid €180 for a much deeper scratch to be repaired.

    Seriously? How can you give advice like that without realising the level of work involved? Take a look at the poster below your post to see the amount it takes to repair keying damage. You pretty much have to repair the entire side of the car.

    eg6 vtec wrote: »
    i did a job on a car with just about the same damage as you have, take a look at our facebook page and see what we did with it and the end result, pm me if you need a price ;)

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.151184041643908.31942.123050261123953&type=1

    In fairness, that's impressive work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭eg6 vtec


    Owen wrote: »



    In fairness, that's impressive work.

    Thanks Owen, some people just think its a matter of giving it a quick rub over then a blast of paint

    what really is involved is stripping the car down i.e removing door trims to get and door handles and the likes then going at it with the sander with a number of different grades of sanding discs to feather out the paint, then primer is needed as most of the time key marks like this go right through the paint down to the metal, more sanding when the primer has flashed off, tedious masking of the car, putting on the base coat and making sure its dust free ( some more sanding ) and then the clear coat but its not done now after the clear has gone off the whole side you just painted needs to be wet sanded to remove any imperfections and a final buff is then done

    thats just a very quick run through of the process so when you think of the time and effort involved it all adds up, and at the end of the day you get what you pay for, and this job cost a lot less than what the OP got quoted and i even did 2 smart repairs on the bumpers for free to seal the deal ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    I do SMART repairs in Cork myself, so I know the undertaking. It just irks the hell out of me when people start thinking that respraying the entire side of a car is a trivial matter and shouldn't cost more than a Happy Meal. If a scratch on a bumper for example is an inch, or a foot, it doesn't matter price wise, it's still nearly the same time involved to repair it.

    I recently did the side of a Hyundai Trajet for a guy, but it was only because he's in the trade, had his own workshop with plenty of heat available, and plenty of time to let it dry. I'd never attempt a job like that without the right working environment. Seriously impressed with the job you did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭eg6 vtec


    Thanks again Owen we have the use of an oven for big jobs if you have a good look around our page you will see some of our other work like my own subaru wagon, i started off myself doing smart repairs and self though myself from there, it's not an easy game but patience pay's off big time ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Wolverine_1999


    Owen wrote: »
    Seriously? How can you give advice like that without realising the level of work involved? Take a look at the poster below your post to see the amount it takes to repair keying damage. You pretty much have to repair the entire side of the car.
    .

    Sure Owen, I know what's involved but also provided a price that was quoted for the same (or similar) job. That's just crazy money in this day and age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Sure Owen, I know what's involved but also provided a price that was quoted for the same (or similar) job. That's just crazy money in this day and age.

    It's not really. In the hey day, to have the side of a car sprayed would have been anything up to a grand. 550 is a reasonable price, as many experienced and knowledgable posters here have agreed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭eg6 vtec


    Sure Owen, I know what's involved but also provided a price that was quoted for the same (or similar) job. That's just crazy money in this day and age.

    cant see how you think its crazy money when you think of the cost of materials, labour and other over heads it costs to run a garage these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    The standard of the job done is as important as the price, same with any trade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    €550 for keyed repair, are you mental :eek:

    There MUST be something more reasonable than that. A friend of mine recently paid €180 for a much deeper scratch to be repaired.

    like i say i am shopping around - one of the chips away guys said it would be about €400 all in - when he has a look at it i'll mention browner sent me - whatever the hell that means :pac:
    eg6 vtec wrote: »
    i did a job on a car with just about the same damage as you have, take a look at our facebook page and see what we did with it and the end result, pm me if you need a price ;)

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.151184041643908.31942.123050261123953&type=1

    price me please :)


    like i said time isint much of a problem and i do have spare cars in the drive if i need to get places while mine is being done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    If you want a proper job done your looking at basically respraying at least 2 if not 3 panels. Id consider anything under €500 for that isn't bad if it's a place with a good reputation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭eg6 vtec


    robbie_998 wrote: »


    price me please :)


    Price gone your way ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    like i say i am shopping around - one of the chips away guys said it would be about €400 all in - when he has a look at it i'll mention browner sent me - whatever the hell that means :pac:



    price me please :)


    like i said time isint much of a problem and i do have spare cars in the drive if i need to get places while mine is being done

    Should have changed the Winters,:D sorry to hear about the car, arseholes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    nudger wrote: »
    Should have changed the Winters,:D sorry to hear about the car, arseholes.

    I have boards stalkers now ? :eek:















    I love it :D:pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Any CCTV footage of the perpetrators?
    They might not have money, but I would ....................................................................................................................them and then ..........................................................and after that.......................................................................and of course................................................and then I'd call the guy with the pliers and the blow torch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    dirty b**tards same thing happened to me one night parked in local town,not one panel didnt have a scratch,keyed all around the car and as deep as possiblew that a full respray was only option,i have since found out who done this,am still planning what to do,they dont know i know ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    simx wrote: »
    dirty b**tards same thing happened to me one night parked in local town,not one panel didnt have a scratch,keyed all around the car and as deep as possiblew that a full respray was only option,i have since found out who done this,am still planning what to do,they dont know i know ;)

    So many options, pliers, blowtorch, concrete shoes or:
    Take out as much credit as you can possibly get from the biggest, meanest, most violent loan shark in town and give their name.


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