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australian police report for IEC

  • 28-12-2011 3:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38


    hi all, this has probably been asked a lot before on this site but im still not sure of whats involved, i want to apply for the canadian visa this year, rules state i need a police check / report for countries i have lived in since i was 18, i lived in oz for a year in 07-08 in queensland and sydney and the rest of my life in ireland

    firstly will i need to apply for the police cert that requires my fingerprints taken and sent to the australian federal police or the other name check option,

    secondly do i need to apply for a second traffic report because i lived in queensland. i have left some unpaid fines behind me in australia for traffic offences in both reigons, will this affect my visa application?

    lastly how do you pay the oz federal police if they only accept australian dollars and no cheques



    any help would be great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭lindzation


    Hi there,

    My boyfriend just sent away for this. Ok so I read SOMEWHERE that you do not need the fingerprint check. I cannot find it for you unfortunately. I'm so annoyed because my boyfriend applied for the fingerprint check/clearance last year and it took FOREVER to come (and so expensive) and then they didn't even ask for it.. now it's a requirement. Grr! So I guess I'm not 100% sure on that, but I believe you don't need the fingerprint check.

    It does say on the police clearance page for Canada that you may be required to submit a traffic report, so that one is possible. My boyfriend lived all over Australia so I'm not sure what/how long they base your "residency" in a certain state on.

    Money wise - we did a bank draft.. I'm guessing you'd do something similar in Ireland. If you go into the bank just explain what you are needing. We just said we needed a bank draft for 45 Australian dollars made out to the Australian Federal Police.

    Hope this helps!

    shanem4422 wrote: »
    hi all, this has probably been asked a lot before on this site but im still not sure of whats involved, i want to apply for the canadian visa this year, rules state i need a police check / report for countries i have lived in since i was 18, i lived in oz for a year in 07-08 in queensland and sydney and the rest of my life in ireland

    firstly will i need to apply for the police cert that requires my fingerprints taken and sent to the australian federal police or the other name check option,

    secondly do i need to apply for a second traffic report because i lived in queensland. i have left some unpaid fines behind me in australia for traffic offences in both reigons, will this affect my visa application?

    lastly how do you pay the oz federal police if they only accept australian dollars and no cheques



    any help would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    thanks for that, was onto the local garda station and the immigration officer isnt back till the third of jan. will have to run it by her then myt have a more drfinite answer for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭horse7


    how long does it take for the ozzi cops to send back a police clearence check,so i can complele my canada visa form,and if im still waiting for a few weeks could i go there on a holiday visa and submit the IEC visa while im in canada.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭lindzation


    horse7 wrote: »
    how long does it take for the ozzi cops to send back a police clearence check,so i can complele my canada visa form,and if im still waiting for a few weeks could i go there on a holiday visa and submit the IEC visa while im in canada.

    It says on the website that it takes 15 business days to process, so that plus the time it takes to post it there and post it back. I know when my boyfriend did it before it took over two months to get back - but he had applied for the fingerprint check as well (which is supposed to take 30 business days.)

    You could definitely come over to Canada on a holiday visa and then apply - but there is not a guarantee you'll get it or that they will let you leave and come back once you do get it.. ( but you'd more than likely be fine I reckon )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    a man would have to wonder if its worth the hassle of mentioining that i was ever in oz and go ahead with the application anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭ShortskirtCiara


    shanem4422 wrote: »
    a man would have to wonder if its worth the hassle of mentioining that i was ever in oz and go ahead with the application anyway

    I wonder would u get away with not mentioning it? Has anyone out there done this before? I'd be curious to see if they would find out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭horse7


    not worth it if they find out your lying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭lindzation


    Yeah.. it's not. I thought about that last year actually but if they did find out you'd probably be banned from entering Canada. They are quite strict. My friend is a kiwi who got a DUI when she was 18 or 19 (she's now 22) and she can't apply for the visa because of it - she can write a letter after a 5 year lapse appealing her case - but that's it. Crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭JohnMearsheimer


    Ya, it's not worth lying to them. Who knows, you might get away with it for a WHV but if you ever get offered permanent residency or anything like that they'll look deeper into your background. When they've discovered you lied it'll probably be residency gone and a ban from entering Canada.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭horse7


    lindzation wrote: »
    It says on the website that it takes 15 business days to process, so that plus the time it takes to post it there and post it back. I know when my boyfriend did it before it took over two months to get back - but he had applied for the fingerprint check as well (which is supposed to take 30 business days.)

    You could definitely come over to Canada on a holiday visa and then apply - but there is not a guarantee you'll get it or that they will let you leave and come back once you do get it.. ( but you'd more than likely be fine I reckon )
    what do you mean, let you leave and come back. do you mean you have to return to ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭lindzation


    horse7 wrote: »
    what do you mean, let you leave and come back. do you mean you have to return to ireland.


    No you don't have to return to Ireland - but you would have to leave Canada and come back in to activate your visa (annoying). So you would have to drive/fly to the states, and then come back. (Or another country of your choice, that's just the easiest.) If you are in Toronto or Vancouver this would be pretty easy as it's not far to drive across to the US.

    So for example.. my boyfriend is on his first working holiday visa, but when he gets his second one we will have to drive down to Montana, and then drive back across for his second one to be activated at the border.

    Make more sense?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    shanem4422 wrote: »
    hi all, this has probably been asked a lot before on this site but im still not sure of whats involved, i want to apply for the canadian visa this year, rules state i need a police check / report for countries i have lived in since i was 18, i lived in oz for a year in 07-08 in queensland and sydney and the rest of my life in ireland

    firstly will i need to apply for the police cert that requires my fingerprints taken and sent to the australian federal police or the other name check option,

    secondly do i need to apply for a second traffic report because i lived in queensland. i have left some unpaid fines behind me in australia for traffic offences in both reigons, will this affect my visa application?

    lastly how do you pay the oz federal police if they only accept australian dollars and no cheques



    any help would be great.

    im in the exact same boat was in oz in 2003 and left parking fines.last year the canadian visa department only wanted a police check if you resided in a country for more than six months within the last five years. they even have the same question in the application forms but i read on the iec site if youve lived abroad for more then 6 months since you turned 18 you need a police cert.
    i just went through the australian police check application and it says you dont need prints for immigration purposes.
    also do you have to get a traffic check along with the police check?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    emailed usit the last day, thhey replyed and said the complete police report is required including fingerprints,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 jimifitz


    Hey,

    Just noticed that the part about needing fingerprints for the Australian police check has been removed. Just asks for a standard name check. Anyone else notice this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    where exactly does it say that you no longer need fingerprints?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 jimifitz


    shanem4422 wrote: »
    where exactly does it say that you no longer need fingerprints?

    On this page http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/australia.asp where it says ''Which Australian police clearances are not acceptable" it used to have a line stating that a check without a fingerprint check was not acceptable. This has been removed some time in the past couple of days.

    On the top of that page it now has "Applicants must provide a Standard Disclosure – name check''.

    This is just a normal name check now I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    jimifitz wrote: »
    Hey,

    Just noticed that the part about needing fingerprints for the Australian police check has been removed. Just asks for a standard name check. Anyone else notice this.
    happy days. 8 weeks and 150 euro saved!! thay must hav just changed it in the last day or 2 so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 jimifitz


    Also for Australians (which you can see here) who are applying for this Visa, they don't need a fingerprint check so I wonder if we need to get it done.


    I just emailed usit to see if they heard anything. might take a while for them to get back. I tried ringing but i was on hold for way too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    seen it on another post on this site a few weeks ago that a girl emailed the canadian embassy in either france or canada and she said they told her that she did not need fingerprints, when i emailed the embassy in dublin they said that they did not answer individual emails and sent me some automaited email to cantact the canadian government directly, now that the website has changed the request think im gona apply without them.when ya look ouit the wondow and see weather like todays ya just want to get the ball rolling!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 pauldpaul


    hi there.. im hopefully going to toronto in march but was in oz for 2years on a british passport.. think i be ok to risk going for the IEC on a irish passport as i dont think i have the time to get a ozzie police check


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    jimifitz wrote: »
    Also for Australians (which you can see here) who are applying for this Visa, they don't need a fingerprint check so I wonder if we need to get it done.


    I just emailed usit to see if they heard anything. might take a while for them to get back. I tried ringing but i was on hold for way too long.
    usit replyed to me on friday 30th december with this


    Hi Shane,

    Thank you for your email. You will need to apply for a FULL austalian police certificate, this includes both a neckcheck and fingerprints.
    Please see this website here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/australia.asp for further details.

    If you any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
    Kind Regards,
    Work Canada Team
    Programmes Department
    USIT
    19/21 Aston Quay

    O'Connell Bridge
    Dublin 2


    canada@usit.ie
    www.workincanada.ie
    Join us on Facebook!!
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/UsitTravel

    also got this 16/12/11
    Dear Shane,

    We have been notified by the IEC Department in the Canadian High Commission, London of a change in the Police Certificate requirement for the upcoming 2012 programme. All participants must submit a police certificate from either the Garda or in the Police Service Northern Ireland. Also, if you have lived in a country other than Canada for a period of more than six months since your eighteenth birthday, you must also enclose a valid police certificate from that country. Information on how to obtain police certificates from various countries can be found on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/index.asp.

    We would strongly advise you to begin obtaining all relevant police certificates ASAP so to reduce the risk of delays to your application.

    Kind regards,
    Canada Work Team,
    USIT



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭JohnMearsheimer


    pauldpaul wrote: »
    hi there.. im hopefully going to toronto in march but was in oz for 2years on a british passport.. think i be ok to risk going for the IEC on a irish passport as i dont think i have the time to get a ozzie police check

    If you spent 2 years of the last 3 years in Australia you probably don't meet the habitual residency in Ireland requirement for the visa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 pauldpaul


    gonna have to try and blag it then so.. id say they will go fast this year with the media on tv and papers about canada been the new oz for irish people!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭JohnMearsheimer


    pauldpaul wrote: »
    gonna have to try and blag it then so.. id say they will go fast this year with the media on tv and papers about canada been the new oz for irish people!!!!

    Chance your arm but if they catch you they'll probably ban you for a few years. I know lots of people that went to Australia or who are planning to go to Australia. Irish people seem to have Australia on the brain. You can do WHVs in Argentina, Hong Kong and New Zealand as well. I don't know anyone that's been to Canada (besides people I met there) or who are planning on going to Canada.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    anyone know which form it is we need on the queensland driving authority site its like a minefield.also im a bit confused if we need fingerprint checks still


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 chiefeile


    I emailed the IEC.
    No fingerprints needed.
    Have my police check,took about 3 weeks from when I sent it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    think ive found the traffic check form it say you need a licence for them to proceed ive never held an aussie licence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 pauldpaul


    only 3 weeks not so bad.. i just sent my aussie police check today hopefully back ASAP!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭beano345


    pauldpaul wrote: »
    only 3 weeks not so bad.. i just sent my aussie police check today hopefully back ASAP!!!

    did you apply for the traffic history check too?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 omc79


    chiefeile wrote: »
    I emailed the IEC.
    No fingerprints needed.
    Have my police check,took about 3 weeks from when I sent it.
    Hi ya. thats great it only took 3 weeks! Did you send it by registered post from Ireland? Or just by regular post? I have to post mine on Monday and wanted to know what you did. thanks

    And did u just send the form, copy of passport picture page and bank draft?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    hi, i sent it by registered post last friday, there is no swift post to australia from ireland man in post office says! just sent completed form. photocopy of aus license and pastport name page signed by me on the bottom and an australian bank draft for 45 dollars, must look into this traffic report now!! could be intresting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Teebco


    The relief to read fingerprints are not needed now.

    Just to let you know that I sent off for my Australian Police Cert a week before Christmas and it was waiting for me when I got back to Toronto on 3rd January.
    It was very quick in fairness and that was just regular post from Toronto.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 omc79


    Thanks Shanem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 omc79


    Hi
    Does anyone know how long you have before you enter Canada from when yon receive confirmation that your application has been successful for working holiday in Canada. Is it valid for up to one year like Oz visa is or it like 6months? Or would anyone know where I could find some info?
    Ie if I receive confirmation in April 2012 do i have a year on which to go to Canada ie enter Canada before April 2013 or do I have to go as soon as I receive the confirmation?
    Any info would be great thanks in advance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 jimifitz


    As far as i know, you have 1 year from the date you receive confirmation to activate the Visa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 JamesA1984


    Just an update to anyone who needs it, my aussie police cert took only 3 weeks from sending to come back to me...great service I was really panicking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭lindzation


    JamesA1984 wrote: »
    Just an update to anyone who needs it, my aussie police cert took only 3 weeks from sending to come back to me...great service I was really panicking!

    Hi James!!

    Just wondering if you applied for the Traffic history search too? a bit confused now if we were supposed to do that - I didn't as I thought that "resident" applied to permanent residents/oz citizens - not travelers.. but there appears to be some confusion around this.

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 peader pluisha


    so to get my police check for australia i must contact afp and will they send out the form by email and i pay the bank draft and send it off is this correct my head is mashed with all the details canada want off me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 shanem4422


    there is a link on the canadian iec website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/australia.asp, download form here print it fill it in, send them the money by means of an australian bank draft that you can get in any bank in ireland, the visas are all gone for this year, apply in late november for your police cert from oz as they are only valid for 3 months from date of issue, have everything ready for next years visas that will be released late december


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 peader pluisha


    shanem4422 Im going for an immigrant nominee visa and at the same time applying for a permanment work visa aswell .im able to apply because i got a job when the expo was in dublin earlier this yearso im blessed really just the ammount of stuff and extra forms to b filled in is crazy but nearly there cheers for the reply so quick :D. that link is the actual form on that page i was on that earlier it just let me email them and tell them what i want but no form i aint the most computer literate person so i could b missing it lol


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