Pro bowl

spiralism

Selections announced tonight at 12. Who gets in and why?

HigginsJ

Giants In:

Victor Cruz
JPP
Steve Weatherford (he has been such a huge improvement over dodge and consistently been pegging people inside their own 20)

Chucky the tree

The list always provides a good laugh. It's turned into a joke these days.

ReacherCreature

I think I read somewhere that someone wanted Chad Clifton in. I think he's played in five games.

I agree, it'll provide a few chuckles.

tallaghtoutlaws

Ah the good old popularity bowl no NFL season is complete without it.

Peyton Manning

Joke of a weekend and joke of a game. Just give the players a weekend away, the game itself is pointless. I always have a quiet chuckle when a player these days is labelled a "pro-bowler" as some sort of badge of class.

Pherekydes

Aaron Rodgers didn't make it last year.

poldebruin

The pro bowl makes me sad, it's a harsh reminder of not having football for 6 long months.

tallaghtoutlaws

At least they will get a large audience as I can't see Tom Brady or Big Ben playing in it leaving Tebow as the 3rd option due to the fans vote. You know the NFL will cash in on the fans decision. Should never have let the fans ever vote a 1/3 of the vote. The Popularity bowl was stupid before hand and even worse with the fans vote.

spiralism

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

At least they will get a large audience as I can't see Tom Brady or Big Ben playing in it leaving Tebow as the 3rd option due to the fans vote. You know the NFL will cash in on the fans decision. Should never have let the fans ever vote a 1/3 of the vote. The Popularity bowl was stupid before hand and even worse with the fans vote.

Id be inclined to agree yeah, 50/50 vote split between the coaches and players, there's always some head scratchers due to the fan votes.

Having said that, getting voted in is a nice honour for the players if nothing else, i love to see broncos lads get in, its a reward for those who deserve recognition.

Chucky the tree

I wouldn't trust players voting either. 50/50 split to coaches and associated press.

Wonder when was the last time anyone anywhere said 'I'm looking forward to the Pro Bowl', even the Community Shield in soccer has more ooomph.

matthew8

Ah, the pro bowl. Some Ravens should make it: Ray Rice, Vonta Leach, Oher would if the fans decided but deservedly won't, Ben Grubbs and Marshal Yanda should but won't, Ed Reed will make it for shutting down the deep ball most of the time, Ray Lewis will make it on reputation, Ngata and Suggs will make it deservedly while our woeful special teams should be kept out.

spiralism

Deleted User wrote: »

Wonder when was the last time anyone anywhere said 'I'm looking forward to the Pro Bowl', even the Community Shield in soccer has more ooomph.

It's more about the players being honoured, as i said already, i love to see broncos getting in, even though the match itself is not worth a damn.

jack presley

At least the selection isn't like the MLB all-star game where EVERY team has to be represented. And that game decides home field advantage in the world series!

johnmcdnl

jack presley wrote: »

At least the selection isn't like the MLB all-star game where EVERY team has to be represented. And that game decides home field advantage in the world series!

in fairness though - at least they'll take the game seriously when something is at stake....

if the Pro Bowl decided where the Super Bowl was to be hosted the year after I can see a way better contested game.....

wouldn't like to see it happen but it would make the game a better contest and would make you want to watch it....

went to watch it last year and turned it off after 10 minutes... was an absolute joke of a game.. none of the players gave a ****e at all...

spiralism

Vic Lombardi reports that Tebow is the 1st alternate choice selection for QB and will make the pro bowl if any withdraw. Von Miller selected as a rookie which should wrap up DROY for him

EDIT: Second apparently, though Schaub is probably the first.

Itssoeasy

Is the probowl selection show been shown anywhere other than nfl network ? Is it on nfl.com to watch ?

spiralism

AFC

Offence:
Quarterback
Tom Brady, New England
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh
Philip Rivers, San Diego
Running back
Ray Rice, Baltimore
Maurice Jones-Drew, Jacksonville
Arian Foster, Houston
Fullback
Vonta Leach, Baltimore
Wide receiver
Wes Welker, New England
Mike Wallace, Pittsburgh
A.J. Green, Cincinnati
Brandon Marshall, Miami
Tight end
Rob Gronkowski, New England
Antonio Gates, San Diego
Tackle
Joe Thomas, Cleveland
Jake Long, Miami
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, N.Y. Jets
Guard
Logan Mankins, New England
Brian Waters, New England
Marshal Yanda, Baltimore
Center
Maurkice Pouncey, Pittsburgh
Nick Mangold, N.Y. Jets

Defence:
Defensive end
Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis
Andre Carter, New England
Elvis Dumervil, Denver
Interior linemen
Haloti Ngata, Baltimore
Vince Wilfork, New England
Richard Seymour, Oakland
Outside linebacker
Terrell Suggs, Baltimore
Von Miller, Denver
Tamba Hali, Kansas City
Inside/midde linebacker
Ray Lewis, Baltimore
Derrick Johnson, Kansas City
Cornerback
Darrelle Revis, N.Y. Jets
Champ Bailey, Denver
Johnathan Joseph, Houston
Free safety
Ed Reed, Baltimore
Eric Weddle, San Diego
Strong safety
Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh

Special teams:

Punter
Shane Lechler, Oakland
Kicker
Sebastian Janikowski, Oakland
Returner
Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh
Special Teamer
Matthew Slater, New England

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NFC

Offence:
Quarterback
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay
Drew Brees, New Orleans
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants
Running back
LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia
Matt Forte, Chicago
Frank Gore, San Francisco
Fullback
John Kuhn, Green Bay
Wide receiver
Calvin Johnson, Detroit
Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona
Steve Smith, Carolina
Greg Jennings, Green Bay
Tight end
Jimmy Graham, New Orleans
Tony Gonzalez, Atlanta
Tackle
Jason Peters, Philadelphia
Joe Staley, San Francisco
Jermon Bushrod, New Orleans
Guard
Jahri Evans, New Orleans
Carl Nicks, New Orleans
Davin Joseph, Tampa Bay
Center
Ryan Kalil, Carolina
Scott Wells, Green Bay

Defence:
Defensive end
Jared Allen, Minnesota
Jason Babin, Philadelphia
Jason Pierre-Paul, N.Y. Giants
Interior linemen
Justin Smith, San Francisco
Jay Ratliff, Dallas
B.J. Raji, Green Bay
Outside linebacker
DeMarcus Ware, Dallas
Clay Matthews, Green Bay
Lance Briggs, Chicago
Inside/midde linebacker
Patrick Willis, San Francisco
Brian Urlacher, Chicago
Cornerback
Charles Woodson, Green Bay
Carlos Rogers, San Francisco
Charles Tillman, Chicago
Free safety
Earl Thomas, Seattle
Dashon Goldson, San Francisco
Strong safety
Adrian Wilson, Arizona

Special teams:
Punter
Andy Lee, San Francisco
Kicker
David Akers, San Francisco
Returner
Patrick Peterson, Arizona
Special teamer
Corey Graham, Chicago

ReacherCreature

spiralism wrote: »

Vic Lombardi reports that Tebow is the 1st alternate choice selection for QB and will make the pro bowl if any withdraw. Von Miller selected as a rookie which should wrap up DROY for him

EDIT: Second apparently, though Schaub is probably the first.

Likely they'll appear as Tom Brady always disappears for obscure surgery or a golf tournament.

Itssoeasy

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Likely they'll appear as Tom Brady always disappears for obscure surgery or a golf tournament.

Or the Superbowl.

Chucky the tree

spiralism wrote: »

Vic Lombardi reports that Tebow is the 1st alternate choice selection for QB and will make the pro bowl if any withdraw. Von Miller selected as a rookie which should wrap up DROY for him

EDIT: Second apparently, though Schaub is probably the first.

Schuab is on IR so he won't won't have been in contention. Andy Dalton would be my guess.

kmart6

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Or the Superbowl.

Well he coulda gone out after his 3 wins...no reason not to...understandable that he wouldn't have gone after losing to NY! But since the formats changed he has been eligible to go since he hasn't been in the SB!

Common knowledge he's just not into it...just like the appearing on the injury list every week!

It's his own choice and all but if it was me I'd like to appear in it at every chance...games a bit of farce but it's a bit of a fun with guys you could never get to play with!

ReacherCreature

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Or the Superbowl.

Oooh. Nasty.

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Schuab is on IR so he won't won't have been in contention. Andy Dalton would be my guess.

Same with Andre Carter. Out for season so a back up DE will be in contention i.e Tebow.

kmart6

Huge compliment to Freeney from his fellow players and coaches that he got included even though the season the Colts have had!

ReacherCreature

No Stafford. Some are questioning that.

kmart6

And who exactly do you think he deserves to be in there instead of?! Manning has been the better QB in my eyes due to the way he's led NY back into games, I know Stafford has the better record but he has receivers who haven't let him down as much as Manning's!

matthew8

An argument could be made for Romo either. Even Cam Newton for the improvement he made to the offense. Stafford had tremendous help from Megatron, who drew 3 defenders and even then was able to go up and get it. That said, the Giants receivers also made lots of big plays.

ReacherCreature

kmart6 wrote: »

And who exactly do you think he deserves to be in there instead of?! Manning has been the better QB in my eyes due to the way he's led NY back into games, I know Stafford has the better record but he has receivers who haven't let him down as much as Manning's!

Don't shoot the messenger. Just passing on what NFL folks on Twitter are musing.

kmart6

Not shooting the messenger just seeing what you think! They're also asking questions about the likes of Dalton,Avril,Brown....guys who aren't near making a Pro Bowl roster!

spiralism

kmart6 wrote: »

And who exactly do you think he deserves to be in there instead of?! Manning has been the better QB in my eyes due to the way he's led NY back into games, I know Stafford has the better record but he has receivers who haven't let him down as much as Manning's!

The correct answer as to the 3rd NFC pro bowl spot should go to is Tony Romo. 65.4 %, 3895 yds, 29/9 TD/INT, 102.2 rating (good for fourth in the league behind Rodgers, Brees and Brady respectively)

kmart6

I'd say his lack of yards let him down!

jack presley

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Don't shoot the messenger. Just passing on what NFL folks on Twitter are musing.

Dallas fans/writers by any chance?

Stev_o

God that NFC team would wipe the AFC team.

Peyton Manning

Stev_o wrote: »

God that NFC team would wipe the AFC team.

Could not disagree more, it's incredibly even.

Amirani

Peyton Manning wrote: »

Could not disagree more, it's incredibly even.

I think so too, and I'd almost give the edge to the AFC based on having a better secondary. There's a negligible difference between the skill positions.

tallaghtoutlaws

Peyton Manning wrote: »

Could not disagree more, it's incredibly even.

Yeah I would agree with this. In fact if all of those players were to play in a high intense actual game rather than the pussy game the Pro Bowl is, It would be a really tight affair.

Hulk Hands

Wasn't part of Albert Haynesworth's incentives contract based on him making a pro bowl? How can you put the results of a fan vote into a contract?

tallaghtoutlaws

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Wasn't part of Albert Haynesworth's incentives contract based on him making a pro bowl? How can you put the results of a fan vote into a contract?

The fans vote only makes up 1/3 the voting for the Pro bowl so I guess the other 2/3 by players and coaches is seen as enough to put as an incentive for bonuses.

skeleton_boy

Philip Rivers, really??

mikemac1

Michael Oher led the fans voting for tackles which is a bit of a joke as most Ravens fans would tell you he doesn't deserve to be selected.
And in the end he wasn't - fourth alternate. If ever there was an example of an popular player with name recognition being selected by fans it's Oher.

Ray Rice, Vonta Leach, Suggs, Ngata all deserved to go.
Marshal Yanda selected and that's a good call.
Ben Grubbs the left guard was overlooked, missed a few games this season but he is critical to the team, it's a different team without him. Maybe next year

Ed Reed quietly getting the job done

Ray Lewis tbh doesn't deserve to go but got in on reputation

The Ravens player who got overlooked was the cornerback, Laudarius Webb. One of the top corners in the AFC but wouldn't be that well known around the league. He'll be selected in future years

Our kicker Billy Cundiff was selected last year and our punter Sam Koch deserved to be selected. But not this year, both are doing badly

Chardee MacDennis

The Eli and Rivers selections are a joke tbh!!

Lirange

kmart6 wrote: »

And who exactly do you think he deserves to be in there instead of?! Manning has been the better QB in my eyes due to the way he's led NY back into games, I know Stafford has the better record but he has receivers who haven't let him down as much as Manning's!

He deserves to be there instead of Manning. Eli has been poor in several games whereas Stafford has been poor in only a few. The latter has been more consistent. Eli probably nudged ahead on the basis of his seniority and accrued respect. Stafford still has to earn that apparently.

OAOB

skeleton_boy wrote: »

Philip Rivers, really??

I'm a Chargers fan and have to agree with you that he'd a disaster of a season for about 75% of it. The only thing is look at all the other AFC QBs and none of them stand out as being shunned. The main ones that could have an issue are Schaub but he's on IR, Dalton who was probably as effective as Rivers this year and Tebow but a lot of his good work was too late in the season. Rivers was way below the standard you'd associate with the pro bowl but no one stepped up to take the spot from him.

jack presley

Another bizarre thing about the pro-bowl is that the TV blackout policy is still in play. So if the stadium doesn't sell out, the whole of Hawaii (not just Oahu) doesn't get to watch it on TV (which could be a blessing in disguise I suppose)

poldebruin

I'd have put Dalton ahead of Rivers at QB
Marshaun Lynch ahead of Gore at RB
Hernandez ahead of Gates at TE
Cruz ahead of Jennings at WR
Stafford instead of E. Manning at QB
and Freeney or Polamalu shouldn't be there based on this year either.

I won't pretend to know enough about O-line play to suggest alternates!

kmart6

No Polamalu?! Explain that one?!

tallaghtoutlaws

kmart6 wrote: »

No Polamalu?! Explain that one?!

I would have Polamalu in there as statistically he is the 4th best SS in the AFC. And the guys above him are Bell from Miami, Branch from the Raiders, Wilson from the Bills and under him you have Babineaux and Quin and a few others including Dawkins who didn't do a lot and Leonhard who might have been worth a shot had he not gone out to injury. AFC doesn't have many Top Strong Safeties hard to see past Polamalu.

kmart6

Oh I'm not saying he shouldn't be in there....I think he should, just wondering why poldebruin is saying that!

He might not have had his best season but the way he covers the field is just phenomenal!

tallaghtoutlaws

kmart6 wrote: »

Oh I'm not saying he shouldn't be in there....I think he should, just wondering why poldebruin is saying that!

He might not have had his best season but the way he covers the field is just phenomenal!

Yeah my bad realised I hit the wrong quote button on my phone.