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January 2012 Boards forecast contest

  • 27-12-2011 1:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭


    Mayan you, a dog named Boo and everyone else welcome to enter the never-ending Boards forecast contest, 2012 edition (so much for Doomsday).

    The Jan 2012 contest is in this post, after a rather long bit about the rules. If you don't care about the rules, scroll down and then down again.

    First, a brief discussion of the scoring rules for 2012, same as 2011 basically.

    The IMT is worth 25 points each month, one deduction per 0.1 error.

    The max and min temps are worth 20 each, same deductions.

    The precip, given as percentage of normal, is worth 15 points, and errors are assessed per 3% increments (for example, if you're 15% out, you'll get 10 pts).

    The sunshine, also given as a percentage of normal, is worth 10 points, and errors are assessed in 5% increments.

    The bonus questions are worth 10 points and are scored by rank order every time. As we've been attracting 40-50 entrants in recent years, I have taken to giving the top four the max of 10 points and scoring down from there in groups of four, leaving some number out in the cold. If we get larger fields of entrants, this may expand, I will keep it roughly the same proportions.

    Now, a final point on scoring, two years ago I introduced the wildly popular "minimum scoring progression rule" which nobody but me understands, but benefits from in any case, sort of like Germany's finance ministry. Or perhaps the opposite of that, I don't claim to understand economics, after all, I'm paying you for weather forecasts. ;)

    How does the rule work? When reality raises its ugly head and looks much different from most of our forecasts, then the scores must be at least the values of the minimum progressions. Some can be higher if people guess very well, but in rank order, none can be lower than this:

    (for 25 pt IMT) ... 23, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10 etc to 1.

    (for 20 pt temps) ... 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10 etc to 1.

    (for 15 pt precip) ... 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 etc to 4, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1.

    (for 10 pt sunshine) ... 10, 9, 8, 7, 7, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 4, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.

    You may notice that I sweetened the pot for the lower scores in the last two groups, that's to balance out how many people score anything in these situations. On an estimate, I would say we apply the rule which is more commonly known as the "mercy rule" about once every second month to one category or another, and sometimes in those cases, just to some but not all of the scoring entries. It tends to equalize the monthly scores and thus makes it less relevant which months you might happen to miss.

    ____________

    As in 2011, the 2012 contest will have two basic awards:

    The Boards.ie Prize is awarded to the winner based on best 10 scores, so while not necessary to enter every month, if you do, your lowest two scores are dropped -- if you enter eleven times, one lowest score is dropped.

    The M.T. Cranium Award which you need not fear to be a literal thing, is given to he or she who scores the highest total for 12 months. To prevent potential embarrassment, you have to enter all 12 to qualify.

    And a third un-named award is given to whoever has the highest average for at least eight entries during the year, should that be a different person from either of the above.


    January 2012 contest

    1. Predict the IMT, an average of five selected stations, which has averaged 5.2 C for the 30-yr period just ended in 2010.

    2. Predict the highest daily maximum at any reporting (met.ie) station.

    3. Predict the lowest daily minimum at any reporting (met.ie) station.

    4. Predict the monthly precip as a percentage of normal (for 11 reporting stations in met.ie Monthly Summary)

    5. Predict the monthly sunshine as a percentage of normal (for 6 reporting stations in met.ie Monthly Summary)

    6. Bonus -- Predict the daily maximum temp at Claremorris on Sunday 15th.

    TEMPLATE

    IMT ..... MAX ..... MIN .... PRC ..... SUN ..... CLA-15


    Because of the New Years holiday falling on a Sunday, I have extended the deadline for entries one extra day.

    Entries will be accepted without penalty up to the end of Monday 2nd (at 0300h Tues) and then with the usual late penalties on the 3rd and 4th. The absolute cutoff for entries will be 0300h on Thurs 5th.

    Good luck and welcome (back) !!


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭pauldry


    5.4 ..... 13.1 ..... -5.4 .... 99 ..... 89 ..... 11.3


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    5.2 .... 12.9 ....-7.7 ....100 .... 99 .... 4.0

    Average, lots and lots of average. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭WolfeIRE


    Thanks MT

    4.8c, 12c, -8c, 95%, 105%, 5c


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    3.9.......10.5c.....-13.2c.....50%.......115%.....0.5c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭H2UMrsRobinson


    Can't quite believe it's nearly 2012 already...let's hope it's not as dramatic as the film but not quite as uneventful as the past few months, weatherwise.

    TEMPLATE

    IMT ...6.4.. MAX ..12.6... MIN ..-8.9.. PRC ...95%.. SUN ..75%... CLA-15...8.2...

    :D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    5.2 ..... 12.5 ..... -5.9 .... 110 ..... 99 ..... 8.7


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    5.4 ..... 12.8 ..... -7 .... 101 ..... 94 ..... 8.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭NIALL D


    4.6 ..... 11.1 ..... -9.2 .... 97 ..... 104 ..... 4.6


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    Back for another year, hopefully a better performance than I managed this year!

    4.5 ..... 13.1 ..... -7.1 .... 110 ..... 090 ..... 7.4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    If posting from Samoa is there another day's grace:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    5.6 ..... 13.8 ..... -3.7 .... 139 ..... 74 ..... 12.2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭okla


    IMT 5.4 ..... MAX 12.8 ..... MIN -5.8 .... PRC 91 ..... SUN 105 ..... CLA 8.5


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Sure I'll give this a go.
    4.7 ..... 13.5 ..... -8.4 .... 86 ..... 91 ..... 6.8


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭fizzycyst


    5.1...11.3...-3.9...120...100...7.6


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,483 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    5.6c ..... 12.8c..... -4.1c .... 112 ..... 88 ..... 10.5c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    4.9 ..... 12.5 ..... -6.2 .... 110 ..... 90 ..... 7.1

    Thanks for all the hard work M.T. Happy New Year to you & yours!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭homolumo


    5.2 ..... 12.1 ..... -4.4 .... 110 ..... 98 ..... 9.4

    Happy New Year MT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭nilhg


    6.1 ..... 13.9 ..... -3.9 .... 111 ..... 87 ..... 10.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    6.1..... 13.5..... -6.6.... 95..... 94..... 9.4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    5.0 ..... 11.7 ..... -7.1 .... 118 ..... 92 ..... 6.8

    MT, you deserve a pay rise in 2012!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    No kidding, but honestly, the friendship of the Irish weather community is worth more than anything to me ... anyway, here's my LRF-respecting guess for January, let the pattern changes come fast and furiously now ...

    2.2 ..... 13.3 ..... -18.0 :eek: ..... 090 ..... 115 ..... 2.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭rameire


    5.4 ..... 13.4 ..... -4.3 ..... 98 ..... 95 ..... 8.9

    early for once.

    Happy New year people.
    Hope its a good one.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,513 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    4.0 ..... 13.3 ..... -6.0 .... 99 ..... 110 ..... 8.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    3.9 ..... 12.9 ..... -9.9 ..... 99 ..... 109 ..... 7.9

    Happy New Year to everyone except the Mayans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭rameire


    -18
    i wish

    edit, im sure i will have to eat my own words.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭jd


    4.1 ..... 13.1 ..... -9.1 .... 95 ..... 98 ..... 6.1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    0.5...13.0...-17.8...90...120...2.0
    :eek: ............ :eek: .................. :eek:

    Sticking with Jan prediction in winter thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    3.7..... 13.5..... -10.3 .... 120 ..... 90 ..... 4.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭kindredspirit


    Maybe the Mayans will be right after all with Red Sunset at -17.8° and MT at -18° :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: You two have no respect for the plants in my garden! :D

    I'm not a Mayan (or even from Mayo! ) so I'm going for

    5.5 ..... 13.3 ..... -4.5 ..... 85 ..... 105 ..... 10

    Total guess as usual. I had gambled in December and lost. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭To Alcohol


    6.2......13.3......-3.5......90........95........8.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭talkabout


    5.2 ..... 11.1 ..... -8.4 .... 95 ..... 100 ..... 6.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭eyesquirm


    First time entering.
    This is the result from the eyesquirm jury.


    4.8....12.3....-7.5....100....94....7.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭dasa29


    5.3c ..... 12.7c ..... -8.5c .... 125% ..... 100% ..... 8.5c


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭K_1


    4.2 ..... 12.8 ..... -7.5 .... 85 ..... 110 ..... 5.7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,729 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    6 ..... 13.5 ..... -5.5 .... 80 ..... 110 ..... 10


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭MiNdGaM3


    3.9 ..... 12.1 ..... -11.0 .... 100 ..... 120 ..... 6.0C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Just a reminder, all the usual deadlines are pushed back one day (as posted) so you still have until the storm to enter (0300h Tuesday) ... and after that, two more days (Tues-Wed) at partly to mostly penalties.

    Welcome to the new folk (especially "to alcohol" -- do we know you?) ... and good luck in 2012. I hope to post some final scores for 2011 later Monday if the good people at Met-E publish their summary. Won't hold it against them if they don't, it could be a stat holiday (ha ha). :)

    This will also allow us to examine some partial scores in the Winter Forecast Contest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭jambofc


    4.8 ..... 11.7 ..... -7.2 .... 75%..... 125% ..... 8.9c


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    5.3 ..... 12.4 ..... -5.1 .... 100 ..... 89 ..... 6.2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭traecy1


    5.1....13.6....-6.2....85....115....5.8


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    3.9 ..... 11.1 ..... -9.2 .... 92 ..... 110 ..... 3.6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭waterways


    6.5 ..... 12.7 ..... -8 ..... 104 ..... 110 ..... 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Steopo


    4.9 ..... 12.8 ..... -10.3 ..... 92 ..... 103 ..... 6.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    5.7 ..... 13.8 ..... -5.2 .... 135 ..... 95 ..... 8.9c


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Very late, apologies

    5.7 ..... 14.1 ..... -5.6 ..... 102 ..... 80 ..... 6.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Entries will be closed at 0300h, as mentioned, all penalty deadlines are shifted back one day so Enderman is "late-late" (10% penalty for score above 50, min 50).

    I just posted a provisional "December and wind gust max" scoring summary in the winter forecast thread. Strasser leads with a perfect 20/20 so far. Joe Public is second in the race for the 20 euros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    WOOPS! VERY VERY LATE SORRY!

    2.3 ..... 13.0 ..... -12.0 ..... 085 ..... 115 ..... 2.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Iancar29, you can enter under the late-late rules but with a five point ceiling on your bonus answer as an added penalty. This is my second attempt to get a table together, first one disappeared into cyber-space.


    Table of entries for January 2012
    ____________________________________

    Forecaster ............... IMT ..... MAX ..... MIN ..... PRC ..... SUN ..... Cla-15
    _______________________________________________________________

    waterways ............. 6.5 ..... 12.7 ..... -8.0 ..... 104 ..... 110 .... 10.0
    H2UMrsRobinson ...... 6.4 ..... 12.6 ..... -8.9 ..... 095 ..... 075 ..... 8.2
    To Alchohol ............ 6.2 ..... 13.3 ..... -3.5 ..... 090 ..... 095 ..... 8.5
    nilhg ..................... 6.1 ..... 13.9 ..... -3.9 ..... 111 ..... 087 .... 10.3
    John mac ............... 6.1 ..... 13.5 ..... -6.6 ..... 095 ..... 094 ..... 9.4
    Jerry Seinfeld .......... 6.0 ..... 13.5 ..... -5.5 ..... 080 ..... 110 .... 10.0
    Enderman** ........... 5.7 ..... 14.1 ..... -5.6 ..... 102 ..... 080 ..... 6.3
    Danno* ................. 5.7 ..... 13.8 ..... -5.2 ..... 135 ..... 095 ..... 8.9
    200motels .............. 5.6 ..... 13.8 ..... -3.7 ..... 139 ..... 074 .... 12.2
    mickger844posts ..... 5.6 ..... 12.8 ..... -4.1 ..... 112 ..... 088 .... 10.5
    kindredspirit ........... 5.5 ..... 13.3 ..... -4.5 ..... 085 ..... 105 .... 10.0
    pauldry .................. 5.4 ..... 13.1 ..... -5.4 ..... 099 ..... 089 .... 11.3
    hellboy99 .............. 5.4 ..... 12.8 ..... -7.0 ..... 101 ..... 094 ..... 8.3
    okla ...................... 5.4 ..... 12.8 ..... -5.8 ..... 091 ..... 105 ..... 8.5
    rameire .................. 5.4 ..... 13.4 ..... -4.3 ..... 098 ..... 095 ..... 8.9
    Lumi ...................... 5.3 ..... 12.4 ..... -5.1 ..... 100 ..... 089 ..... 6.2
    dasa29 .................. 5.3 ..... 12.7 ..... -8.5 ..... 125 ..... 100 ..... 8.5
    homolumo .............. 5.2 ..... 12.1 ..... -4.4 ..... 110 ..... 098 ..... 9.4
    talkabout ............... 5.2 ..... 11.1 ..... -8.4 ..... 095 ..... 100 ..... 6.3
    Sponge Bob ............ 5.2 ..... 12.9 ..... -7.7 ..... 100 ..... 099 ..... 4.0
    Wild Bill .................. 5.2 ..... 12.5 ..... -5.9 ..... 110 ..... 099 ..... 8.7

    Con Sensus ............ 5.2 ..... 13.0 ..... -7.2 ..... 099 ..... 100 ..... 7.6

    fizzycyst ................ 5.1 ..... 11.3 ..... -3.9 ..... 120 ..... 100 ..... 7.6
    traecy1 ................. 5.1 ..... 13.6 ..... -6.2 ..... 085 ..... 115 ..... 5.8
    Tae laidir ............... 5.0 ..... 11.7 ..... -7.1 ..... 118 ..... 092 ..... 6.8
    dacogawa .............. 4.9 ..... 12.5 ..... -6.2 ..... 110 ..... 090 ..... 7.1
    Steopo* ................ 4.9 ..... 12.8 .... -10.3 ..... 092 ..... 103 ..... 6.1
    jambofc ................. 4.8 ..... 11.7 ..... -7.2 ..... 075 ..... 125 ..... 8.9
    eyesquirm .............. 4.8 ..... 12.3 ..... -7.5 ..... 100 ..... 094 ..... 7.3
    WolfeIRE ................ 4.8 ..... 12.0 ..... -8.0 ..... 095 ..... 105 ..... 5.0
    Hammer Archer ....... 4.7 ..... 13.5 ..... -8.4 ..... 086 ..... 091 ..... 6.8
    NIALL D ................. 4.6 ..... 11.1 ..... -9.2 ..... 097 ..... 104 ..... 4.6
    Harps .................... 4.5 ..... 13.1 ..... -7.1 ..... 110 ..... 090 ..... 7.4
    K_1 ....................... 4.2 ..... 12.8 ..... -7.5 ..... 085 ..... 110 ..... 5.7
    jd ......................... 4.1 ..... 13.1 ..... -9.1 ..... 095 ..... 098 ..... 6.1
    Rickylovesuall ......... 4.0 ..... 13.3 ..... -6.0 ..... 099 ..... 110 ..... 8.0
    DOCARCH ............... 3.9 ..... 11.1 ..... -9.2 ..... 092 ..... 110 ..... 3.6
    MiNdGaM3 .............. 3.9 ..... 12.1 .... -11.0 ..... 100 ..... 120 ..... 6.0
    darkman2 ............... 3.9 ..... 10.5 .... -13.2 .... 050 ..... 115 ..... 0.5
    Joe Public .............. 3.9 ..... 12.9 ..... -9.9 ..... 099 ..... 109 ..... 7.9
    SeaFields ............... 3.7..... 13.5 .... -10.3 ..... 120 ..... 090 ..... 4.0
    snowstreams** ...... 3.5 ..... 12.6 ..... -10.4 ..... 095 ..... 110 ..... 6.5***
    Iancar29** ............ 2.3 ..... 13.0 .... -12.0 ..... 085 ..... 115 ..... 2.0***
    M.T. Cranium .......... 2.2 ..... 13.3 .... -18.0 ..... 090 ..... 115 ..... 2.5
    redsunset ............. 0.5 ..... 13.0 .... -17.8 ..... 090 ..... 120 ..... 2.0
    ____________________________________________________

    * late penalty (10% off scores over 60, min 60)
    ** late-late penalty (10% off scores over 50, min 50)
    *** max score available 5/10

    Anyone who played regularly in 2011 and missed the deadline can enter before 0300 under same conditions as Iancar29, after which no exceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    Anyone who played regularly in 2011 and missed the deadline can enter before 0300 under same conditions as Iancar29, after which no exceptions.

    I was in the competition last year but missed a good few months. So I was hoping not to miss January, I dont know how I missed it.
    Sorry I'll take an extreme penalty if you still allow?

    3.5 ..... 12.6 ..... -10.4 ..... 095 ..... 110 ..... 6.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Summary for first week (1-7 Jan) ...

    IMT 6.8 C

    max 13.1 C

    min ??

    prc 133% of normal rainfall

    sun 75% of normal (est)


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