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swtor boredom

  • 26-12-2011 8:55pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭


    just wondering is boredom kicking in for anyone else in the game yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    What level are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    CyberJuice wrote: »
    just wondering is boredom kicking in for anyone else in the game yet?

    26 now and two lvl 11 characters and tonight i was thinking so am i ever do anything else apart from kill everything that moves :( getting very monotonousness . If this game didnt have the story aspect to it i doubt very much id be playing. But im willing to stick around and hope that it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭GarethBah


    Level 48 here, questing is not exactly fun but i'm enjoying it, it's all about the end-game :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Standard MMO stuff for me really. I get a little impatient to get on with the story in parts but the lack of many "Fetch 5 of these uncommon drops from that mob over there" type quests really takes a lot of the frustration out of the game for me.

    Being able to go off and do some PvP or space battles as a break from questing while still getting XP helps a lot to keep me from getting bored too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭wonderboysam


    bored out of my tree - lvl 21


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    It'd be interesting to know if the bored people played a lot of MMOs before this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭CyberJuice


    nix wrote: »
    What level are you?

    level 20 bounty hunter,level 16 sith sorceror. level 9 imperial agent. level 15 jedi knight..

    I know i havent experienced the full game but still, its feeling too much like a single player rpg for me and wen i do sign up for a warzone i get into hutball and im fighing against level 40 players that have more crit and attack power than me and more abilities but thats another issue.flashpoints?they are ok when you do them mayb twice but after that the long group conversations just are annoying..

    ill stick with the game and get a char to max level before i decide to carry on or not but i dont get the feeling that i want to rush home and log in and when im ingame after 2 hours i feel like i want to log out and watch tv or do something else..


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Still lovng the game, i was never a fan of cutscenes but i gave them a chance as they are better than most and enjoyed then for a bit, now they are just in the way.
    DOesnt really take from the game however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,766 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    36 bounty hunter, loving it still. though it does have its doldrums. I think it depends on the planet you're on and what you've to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭Omphin


    im loving the imperial agent Story line. The way im playing the game atm is leveling on my own and trying to complete a zone like Taris, doing every quest. However some zones like Nar Shaddaa i only did my Class quests there and otherwise didnt quest there. I figure i will see that planet on my next character and skip Taris or other planets where i have seen all the quests.

    Im doing some pvp in between just for a bit of my filthy pleasure, shooting the crap out of melee. Did some space combat missions and will probably do more soon.

    Im leveling an alt with a friend which i only log onto when my friend is also on. This gives me a break from playing a sniper and lets me try a Sith inquisitor. If my friend is not online i just crack on with my sniper.

    Btw i picked up gathering skills for my sniper arch, scavenging and slicing. Leveled slicing to 400 first to get access to alot of cash to be able to send companions on missions leveling the other 2. The idea being that i can gather while queueing for pvp at max level keeping myself overflowing with cash or mats for gearing up my main and alts.

    For some people leveling solo might seem a bit boring, but i think most people wanting to level up without having to wait for others will just do it that way. I spent 30 mins waiting for my mate while on my alt to move his character to pick up quests and hand some in, that i found boring. So im enjoying the story of the imperial agent story. Its 10 times better than leveling in WoW. i just hope end game pve and pvp have more to offer but also know that its very early days for SWTOR


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Its still fun just needs some variety like everything is kill this **** kill that touch that terminal etc.

    This is star wars why not hack a droid and spy on people or some thing they could do so much more i am disappointed. And i like the space ship missions even tho it does feel like it needs a lot of work that part of the game but il be sticking around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Lv40 BH. Quests feel all the same. Even the mob placement seems the same. It's now always 4 mobs or 1 strong with 1/2 mobs.

    Flashpoints are very buggy. Had to reset last boss of foundry three times last night cause he bugged. Very basic mechanics even for a normal flashpoint.

    Infact the shiny has started to wear off and I see cracks everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    Will play till endgame, still having fun @ level 30 on my Powertech, on Taris now though and most of the monsters seem to be 2-3 levels higher than me, might go back and finish my green/yellow Heroics and or try some more space missions and pvp

    Only had 2 pvp encounters sofar 1st at level 27 against a 26 stealthy/melee jedi type thing that i lost as it is very ahrd to dps something that just walks through you and cc's you like crazy and 2nd against a 36 at level 29 last night who i thought was afk, he wasn't :p and he corpse camped me ><


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭RichieD


    Still enjoying it a lot. Have a 27 scoundrel on repubic and 24 sniper on Emipre.

    I try to do a mix of pvp/quests/flashpoints and space missions almost every day. Stops me getting bored doing the same thing over and over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Find myself playing for an hour then turning it off : /

    Its enjoyable tosay the least, but there is some serious bugs and nuisances. I'm levelling as jedi defense and im having all my tank gear ninjad in flashpoints and heroics. Literally every single item ninjad, not fun at all .

    I'm just going to stop doing dungeons etc and just quest quest quest

    When I hit 50 I'll spec into a tank tree properly and start farming gear. The unfortunate thing however is that now, despite being an mmo, I'm being forced out on my own to play, due to the undeniable retardation I'm encoutneirng in dungeons.

    I think I just need to sit down for a few nights and burst some levels, but definitly not feeling any rush, viewing streams and videos of the endgame raiding aswell ,its so buggy, and not good looking, that I dont feel a rush.

    Its definitly has the look and feel of an mmo that will be around for years to come, but it just hasnt sucked me in yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭jeawan


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Find myself playing for an hour then turning it off : /

    Its enjoyable tosay the least, but there is some serious bugs and nuisances. I'm levelling as jedi defense and im having all my tank gear ninjad in flashpoints and heroics. Literally every single item ninjad, not fun at all .

    I'm just going to stop doing dungeons etc and just quest quest quest

    When I hit 50 I'll spec into a tank tree properly and start farming gear. The unfortunate thing however is that now, despite being an mmo, I'm being forced out on my own to play, due to the undeniable retardation I'm encoutneirng in dungeons.

    I think I just need to sit down for a few nights and burst some levels, but definitly not feeling any rush, viewing streams and videos of the endgame raiding aswell ,its so buggy, and not good looking, that I dont feel a rush.

    Its definitly has the look and feel of an mmo that will be around for years to come, but it just hasnt sucked me in yet.

    Doc i have had the same Problem with Playing Guardian , people ninjaing the gear just to sell it . to this point i have stopped playing guardian and go commando also mainy due to the fact there is feck all healer on our server.

    But boredom i am not finding any love the storyline completely it makes questing so much more easy vs what wow was like . crafting i am enjoying allot but on our server we just seem to have everyone playing a jedi guardian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    TheDoc wrote: »
    Its enjoyable tosay the least, but there is some serious bugs and nuisances. I'm levelling as jedi defense and im having all my tank gear ninjad in flashpoints and heroics. Literally every single item ninjad, not fun at all .

    I've had that problem with all MMOs I've played that didn't have a very rigid system for distributing gear. PuGs suck, and will always suck.

    You really need to start doing dungeons/raids with a decent guild group for any of these games to come alive.


  • Posts: 5,285 [Deleted User]


    Yeah have not played in days , glad i am not the only one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I played the beta up to cap, and if I'm completely honest, after playing it up to the last minute, decided against buying it.

    It's a decent MMO, it's a bit of fun and I loved playing a Sith Guardian. But, wow. It was so buggy, broken and imbalanced in way to many places. By the end of the beta, I had no faith left in the game and knew it would be a let down.

    I'd love to say that we can be more forgiving because it's an MMO, but frankly, they've been going for a long time now, and Bioware should have been more than aware that the first month is the most important time for the genre.

    I plan on picking up a full copy in a month or two, on the condition it's working and playing better.

    Disappointed because I am such a huge Star Wars fan, I even spent the last weekend sitting in my really really nerdy Jedi Dressing gown I got as a present to really enjoy it.

    Disappointed, but not surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,477 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    i can safely say this is the most addictive mmo i have ever played :D the story makes things so much more interesting tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    il play out my free time, i dont think il sub for now definitely check it out again at some point im really enjoying my sith juggernaut lvl 29 and a 15 sith assassin. I just did another day of kill quests same old same old mobs standing around waiting to be killed. I was expecting more from this title.

    Other issue i found was replaying the game im just space barring my way through the dialogue which makes the lack lustre quest and static world all the more obvious.

    I am loving tattooine the place looks massive and the entire time ive playing i saw my first republic/jedi player today yep just the 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    Finding it hard to get into Heroic/Daily missions even though im a 32 tank, PvP is abit too laggy for me too so im just grinding some green quests to bring my level back inline with my class quests :(

    Kinda bored


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,353 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Most of the complaints i've seen are pretty standard MMO complaints.

    Random people are always stupid, enemies rarely if ever more around, 90% of tasks are about killing enemies...best way you can start to enjoy any MMO is get yourself in a guild that you like, and start playing with them. You'd be surprised how having a simple chat function can lessen your boredom.

    Yes, there are bugs, but there's not an MMO out there that hasn't had bugs at launch. I'd say there are less in this than i've ever come across (though maybe i'm just lucky).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Kiith wrote: »
    Most of the complaints i've seen are pretty standard MMO complaints.

    Random people are always stupid, enemies rarely if ever more around, 90% of tasks are about killing enemies...best way you can start to enjoy any MMO is get yourself in a guild that you like, and start playing with them. You'd be surprised how having a simple chat function can lessen your boredom.

    Yes, there are bugs, but there's not an MMO out there that hasn't had bugs at launch. I'd say there are less in this than i've ever come across (though maybe i'm just lucky).

    I'd agree completely with the above. I've seen very few bugs relatively speaking compared to what I saw at the start of WoW. SWTOR could of course be better (give me macros God damn it!) but it's got a lot of stuff baked into the UI that I've been using addons for for years (transparent map while moving is one that springs immediately to mind).

    I don't know, I'm enjoying this for what it's worth and I'd recommend it to others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    The game as it is now, for me anyway, is an online single player game with chat channels. I can chat for free online on any other multiple different things, don't see why I'd want to pay 13 eu a month to chat in a bland unfinished game.
    Mobs are all static and it's just lazy development, or lack therof.
    Warzones are good when playing Republic, instant games but the warzones lag badly and abilties don't queue right. Dare you button mash an ability and you'd be lucky to get one to go off.
    I've just been doing class quests and pvp to level up as anything else seems worthless and boring due to nobody in the gameworld. Well there are people in the game, huge amounts, but there's nobody to be seen in the zones due to the stupid sharding/instancing in the open world. Playing on a highly populated pvp sith realm in American primetime, 3 of us as Republicans had to force pvp on tatooine at a sith base and even then we only got 4 sith to respond.
    Huge dead worlds with dead static mobs and no players. Reminds me of playing on rubbish private servers where they haven't figured out the simple database commands to make the mobs move around.
    I've played probably every MMO there ever was but this game is badly unfinished, could have done with another 6 months beta testing by non star wars fans this time, who will speak out and tell Bioware the truth of how bad the game looks and feels to play in.
    Couldn't care less about all the prescripted dialogue, it's just annoying after the first few times. Any group we've been setting up for heroics, we ask for people who will skip the dialogues and if they don't, we boot them. They can go RP on their own time.
    Game will bomb out within 3 months, even Rift made much more of an effort than this.
    Shame too, has a lot of potential, pity EA were involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    oxo_ wrote: »
    I've played probably every MMO there ever was but this game is badly unfinished, could have done with another 6 months beta testing by non star wars fans this time, who will speak out and tell Bioware the truth of how bad the game looks and feels to play in.

    this is the problem. Any complaints about how bad the game is, is meet by "GO BACK TO WOW" on the swtor forums. A lot of these people are apparently the beta testers. WoW hating beta testers are generally not the best for your game. I saw in Warhammer online and I'm seeing it here.

    The whole "Well WoW launched in a worse state" argument really annoys me as it gives Bioware a free pass for launching a 2011 mmo like a 2004 mmo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭CyberJuice


    oxo_ wrote: »
    .
    Game will bomb out within 3 months, even Rift made much more of an effort than this.
    Shame too, has a lot of potential, pity EA were involved.

    Have to say i enjoyed rift more than this game,was not too hard to get dungeon grps on launch, the graphics were great,always loads of people to group with to do group quests and zone invasions,battelgrounds were even not all that bad and i still quit rift after 2 months :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    One good thing about buying the game on Origin - I login, open live chat and ask their customer support for a refund (as I feel the game is unfinished and unplayable in it's current form). Wait a couple minutes and he comes back and says I've been refunded. Happy days :)

    Well at least I tried it and not burned too badly as I got a refund.

    Yeah Cyber, Rift wasn't half bad, it just became a massive grind. It had a lot going for it though, more than SWTOR tbh. We'll see what happens in a few months, how it pans out or if they'll just keep playing on the Star Wars franchise without bothering their arses to improve stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Glad i didnt get this. I loved KOTOR and i like MMOs but nothing about it seemed really interesting. GW2 looks like its actually offering some interesting stuff. Hopefully anyway.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Anyone writing this off is missing out bigtime, its easily the best MMO since .... WOW actually.
    Who knows, if the cotent is there and built upon as i expect bioware to do who knows how good it will be.
    For now its a thoroughly enjoyable MMO and its Star Wars ffs :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭CyberJuice


    pvp is really starting to annoy the ****e out of me

    firstly theres hutball which is a joke of a warzone,this is amplified 100 times if your mele..

    secondly theres the fact that im level 15 or 20 and im in a warzone with level 50 dudes.seriously?! i know some of you will say "hey its ok they buff you up to their level" but they dont!! do they give me 30 points to put in my talent trees? do they give me every skill and ability from my class trainer? they do not,so saying that its fair is just not true

    thirdly theres the delay. im an operative mele. so i run up behind a guy and i backstab,i have to wait about .5 to 1 second after the gcd before i can shiv because the animation of my first move has not finished before the gcd has ended,and this is a never ending cycle,some abilities have longer animations, overloads shot is instant cast shot,does ok damage but if i want to spam it,it takes rougly 2.5 to 3 seconds between each bullet leaving the gun,i assume this is coz of the animation.an instant that is 3 secs between each shot.so its more or less like a 2.5 sec cast to me :(

    ive rolled a pvp char on a pvp server but the pvp is just not up to scratch yet afaik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,477 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Dcully wrote: »
    Anyone writing this off is missing out bigtime, its easily the best MMO since .... WOW actually.
    Who knows, if the cotent is there and built upon as i expect bioware to do who knows how good it will be.
    For now its a thoroughly enjoyable MMO and its Star Wars ffs :D:D

    the potential is there for this to be one of the best mmo's ever, they could add in as many planets as they feel like with more stories, they could add mini games like speeder racing etc. there is endless possibilities for expansion tbh (so long as there is a good amount of people playing)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    It's out a week.

    People are so familiar with mmo's that it feels like this game should have years or bugfixes and balancing patches applied straight out of the box.

    Every game has issues, I can say (safely) that no game is perfect on launch, this one is far from perfect but far better than some other games that were released...Battlefield Bad company 2 was unplayable at launch, a ****ing mess, BF3 beta was a steaming heap of bugged ****, the SWTOR beta was less buggy than the release version of BF3 imo. RAGE is another example....Skyrim had bugs...etc etc etc, Assassins Creed Brotherhood wouldn't detect my keyboard until recently...6 months after launch...

    World Of Warcraft was a good game, had issues, they fixed many of them over a period of SEVEN YEARS...not over night.

    This game has been available to all for less than ten days...People that are giving up in frustration are not being realistic. If you are happy to give up on it this quickly then it should at least be for genuine (and credible) reasons like simply not liking the art style or the universe or whatever, but complaining that pvp is ****ed and that you're quitting after 10 days makes you look like a moron. They are not the kind of people that should be allowed to comment on the forums.

    Bioware have had one ****ty maintainence schedule out of 2 weeks of playing it I don't think that's bad...and the game is not that buggy for me (the odd looting bug, that's it).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Dear God, the drama with you people. You'd swear you'd never seen a launch before. 10 days in with **** all endgame experience of note and you're writing it off? Yeah it might flop badly and we might end up with a dead game because Bioware screw up the endgame but we're not there yet and to write it off is truly mindboggling.


    Gummy Panda, I don't know if you played WoW at launch but it was so much worse than this it wasn't funny. That doesn't defend Bioware but to call it a 2004 MMO is seriously way off the mark or a case of wearing very rose tinted glasses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Its not the bug's those are expected, its the fact i know what every single quest im going to get is going to be another click that thing ow and kill 30 mobs for a bonus. I am bored.

    This is star wars they could have done a lot of interesting things but everything is a simple kill 30 mobs then repeat. Its not even interesting and im only lvl 30 now. Sure the dialogue parts are interesting the first time around but everything else is the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    The reason the game is so similar to Wow in that respect is because any mmo that wants to be successful these days needs to aim squarely at it's customer base to get on on that action.

    Always makes me laugh when i encounter someone whining ingame that why doesn't this game have X like Wow does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    While wow wasn't the first MMO when it came out, it certainly was probably the best at the time and nothing really came close to it.
    Star Wars, as with Rift, now have a lot to compete with, I mean come on, I even see people here mentioning FPS games like BF3 in the same sentence as an MMO, seriously like, some of you just haven't a clue at all.
    It's not all about bugs either - PlanetSide, the best MMO I ever played STILL has bugs in it, 300 (!) years after it first launched, but that didn't deter people because no matter what, it had playability and actual people there to play with and fight against, all the time.

    Neither Rift nor Star Wars can even come close to what they have to compete with today, and I don't care for the excuses being banded about either, it's not back then in the "olden days" - it's now, here and now and Star Wars does NOT even come close to other MMO's on offer, even some of the free ones are better than it.
    Couldn't care less how it compares to Wow when wow launched, and I know what wow was like when it launched, pretty much enjoyed it too, actually I'd prefer most of Vanilla wow than some of the crap they've dished out in recent years.

    Either way, if people are prepared to pay to play in a game that still looks like it could be in beta for another 6 months to a year then fair dues to them. I'm not. I got my refund.

    If they make some amazing changes over the next 6 months to a year then maybe I might come back and bother playing it but the game as it is now should not have been released to the public and it's no wonder EA are accepting requests for refunds without question.

    Big star wars fan here, I really am, but this game was a complete let down to me and I'd blame a lot of that on the moronic fanboi's in the beta who never even bothered to tell Bioware how badly they were doing. I mean come on, did any of you in the beta ever even once make a ticket about stupid stuff that's still there like the "\" key beside your "z" key on the keyboard, which most gamers would map to an ability, ALWAYS opening up the support request window ? You can't even un-map that key to do something else and yet stupid stuff like that made it into the release of the game ??
    That there's no option there to report afk leechers and botters ? Wtf really ?
    Oh I know, maybe I can accidentally hit that fecking "\" key again mid fight and open up a support ticket on the afk botter :/

    I still think the game has huge potential but unless more players take their blinkers off, remove their star wars t-shirts and put away the fake jedi lightsabres - the game will go nowhere because nobody is actually telling Bioware how crap of a job they really are doing.

    It's unforgivable to me, in this day and age, to walk into a (huge!) world zone and 1) have no other players in it, 2) the mobs all just stand there and do absolutely NOTHING and 3) I can't even find one bloody person of the opposite faction to kill - on a server with long queues and massive opposition faction against the one I rolled (Republic).
    That and the stupidity of player abilities not firing because they're waiting on some jamrag animation that some moronic dev thought would be cool to do, in pvp, and not a single word came from any beta testers about it ???

    While the game won't die in it's first month, due mainly to star wars fans propping it up, it has already lost it's opportunity of becoming one of the best, due to nothing other than itself. It's just another suicide MMO, once they at least break even they won't give a damn - but people will still be patiently waiting and telling themselves it'll get better, honestly, it'll get better, really, it'll get better.... etc., etc.,

    Once bitten, twice shy, cheerio now bye bye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    nesf wrote: »
    Dear God, the drama with you people. You'd swear you'd never seen a launch before. 10 days in with **** all endgame experience of note and you're writing it off? Yeah it might flop badly and we might end up with a dead game because Bioware screw up the endgame but we're not there yet and to write it off is truly mindboggling.


    Gummy Panda, I don't know if you played WoW at launch but it was so much worse than this it wasn't funny. That doesn't defend Bioware but to call it a 2004 MMO is seriously way off the mark or a case of wearing very rose tinted glasses.

    The difference here is that WoW came out a long time ago, and at the time it was basically the first real full world MMO on it's scale and so it was expected to have a lot of bugs.

    However, people expect a much higher rate on the release of the game from a major company like Bioware, especially Star Wars because it's such a huge franchise.
    My issue during the beta was that the questing was very mundane, and whilst the the spoken dialogue is fantastic, it does get a bit tiresome when you want to just fly though to the end-game.

    I haven't written off the game. My plan is to wait about 2 months and then check it out properly on live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    The difference here is that WoW came out a long time ago, and at the time it was basically the first real full world MMO on it's scale and so it was expected to have a lot of bugs.

    However, people expect a much higher rate on the release of the game from a major company like Bioware, especially Star Wars because it's such a huge franchise.
    My issue during the beta was that the questing was very mundane, and whilst the the spoken dialogue is fantastic, it does get a bit tiresome when you want to just fly though to the end-game.

    I haven't written off the game. My plan is to wait about 2 months and then check it out properly on live.

    Sure, what I'm complaining about is the people writing it off already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    nesf wrote: »
    Gummy Panda, I don't know if you played WoW at launch but it was so much worse than this it wasn't funny. That doesn't defend Bioware but to call it a 2004 MMO is seriously way off the mark or a case of wearing very rose tinted glasses.

    No what am I complaining about is when people say the game is missing features which are considered standard now, people say wow didn't have xyz on release. WoW was released in 2004. This is 2011 and bioware had a massive budget to use. There is a serious amount of bugs and poor features in this game.


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    I dont care about the bugs to be honest. I am just dissapointed with the game in general. Everybody looks the same, all the weapons are the same all the clothes are the same. Missions are all the same. Your character you create doest seem to have a soul, if you dont move it stands there like C3PO. Its just boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    No what am I complaining about is when people say the game is missing features which are considered standard now, people say wow didn't have xyz on release. WoW was released in 2004. This is 2011 and bioware had a massive budget to use. There is a serious amount of bugs and poor features in this game.

    Sure I'll accept that direct comparisons are invalid, but a hell of a lot of stuff is in the game. I suppose I'm happy enough because despite the flaws I'm still enjoying myself. That and I really don't expect perfection in a MMO launch, I expected to find problems if I bought it at launch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,766 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Everybody looks the same, all the weapons are the same all the clothes are the same. Missions are all the same. Your character you create doest seem to have a soul, if you dont move it stands there like C3PO. Its just boring.

    are we playing the same game?

    Sorry but what you're saying there is a complete description of any MMO. Sit in Orgrimmar/Stormwind or any generic mmo capitol city for 3 minutes and you're bound to see 10-20 people with the exact same gear. (wow's transmog excluded)

    As for soul, i dunno what class you're playing but the bioware storyline is full of soul, imho anyway. I think a lot of people are just racing through to the end and missing the whole point of playing an mmorpg.

    It is a very immersive game if you allow it to be. A hell of a lot more than some of the other big named mmo's out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    The lad who posted about booting party members who didnt skip dialogue.......is just missing the point completely. Completely. You complain about grind and then completely skip the interesting and unique part of the game....the story.

    I've been impressed with the game so far, although after three days im still level 19 so haven't experienced any endgame. Its the most polished release MMO i've played and i've played most of them.

    I've encountered 2 bugs in 22 hours play time. An animation bug where I kept shooting a corpse and an item disappeared from my inventory. Thats it. No glitched mobs, no falling through the world, no broken quests, nothing.

    There has been zero unscheduled downtime. ZERO! No major crashes. I've never seen that in any mmo. We had an eight hour sheduled maintance in preperation for a patch the other day which is normal for any game.

    I play a bounty hunter Merc and have no issue with animation delay or whatever people are complaining about. Maybe its your class.

    If a game isn't for you thats fine and say so.....but plenty of new people will be reading this thread considering buying the game or not and will be put off by quite alot of untruth's being posted in here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    What "untruths" are you talking about ? Or did you really just mean differing opinion than that of your own which you couldn't possibly agree with because ... ?
    More than happy to rip the game to pieces in here and tell more than a few truths about it, but I've held off on doing so for fear of spoiling it for others who for some reason don't see it's serious faults.
    I will though rip it to shreds on metacritic, so all the shilling bioware and EA employees who gave it 10/10 and other such nonsense can go suck a fat one when the game has rightfully averaged out below a rating of 5.

    Also, like I said, it's an ok single player game with an online chat, but I have skyrim so wtf would I want to pay to sit through dialogue after dialogue over and over because some john won't hit his space bar, go get another group yourself, preferably on a RP server where I'm sure they all enjoy listening to stupid mostly English accents waffle on constantly. It was interesting the first few times, then it just got annoying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    Oh and the only reason you didn't fall through the world was because there was nobody else there to see you fall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    oxo_ wrote: »
    What "untruths" are you talking about ? Or did you really just mean differing opinion than that of your own which you couldn't possibly agree with because ... ?
    More than happy to rip the game to pieces in here and tell more than a few truths about it, but I've held off on doing so for fear of spoiling it for others who for some reason don't see it's serious faults.
    I will though rip it to shreds on metacritic, so all the shilling bioware and EA employees who gave it 10/10 and other such nonsense can go suck a fat one when the game has rightfully averaged out below a rating of 5.

    Also, like I said, it's an ok single player game with an online chat, but I have skyrim so wtf would I want to pay to sit through dialogue after dialogue over and over because some john won't hit his space bar, go get another group yourself, preferably on a RP server where I'm sure they all enjoy listening to stupid mostly English accents waffle on constantly. It was interesting the first few times, then it just got annoying.

    I dunno man. This post just comes accross as really petty and bitter. As I said, some people like things others don't. Thats normal. But you are talking about going onto metacritic and "ripping to shreads" a decent game just because you "know" other people rate it highly......so you want to trash its score?

    I also think you need to understand the difference between playing and role-playing. If a lad watches a cutscene, he's playing the game. If he spams general chat with his characters inner thoughts, thats role-playing. You say you like star wars and like MMO's but it just seems like you wanted to dislike it. I mean didn't you create the account just to share your dislike of the game with others?

    Criticism is welcome and often valid but you are just grinching at this point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭oxo_


    Don't happen to work for EA or Bioware at all do you Kirby ?
    Again, what are you saying that was said here that you are calling lies (untruths) an who are you calling a liar ?

    Presuming you don't actually work for EA or Bioware nor have any affiliation with same then you are a prime example of what went wrong with the development of this game and what will continue to go wrong with it after the majority have quit within the first 3 months, probably never to return. You refuse to accept criticism of a game you play, for which owes you nothing, nor you it. Will continue to accept below average and lazy development and customer support and on top of that you call criticism lies and as such label those criticising as liars.
    The Swtor official forums remind me so much of Rift, where their forums were stuffed with paid employees and paid shills who were shouting down and drowning out any criticism with similiar labels, along with shilling 10/10 reviews on metacritic and paid shilling reviews in so called gaming sites and magazines. Yet a couple months after launch the servers were dead, they couldn't give the game away for almost free on steam and their forums had barely a criticism to be read and anyone that did dare to criticise was labelled a wow fanboy or a liar.
    I'm giving my point of view on how I see the game with actual factual information in regards stupid lazy bugs, lazy development and piss poor mob interactions and lack of anyone in the open world even on stuffed servers which still have queues.
    Couldn't care less whether you agree with me or not or won't accept even blatant obvious stuff that's been posted all over their official forums in regards player abilities not queueing up or firing off due to stupid anmations. Or dead world with static dead mobs that do nothing. Or pvp servers with no players to pvp against. This is all over their forums.
    Just don't call or insinuate that I'm a liar. Nothing I have said was untrue and there is an awful lot that I've held back on, which I will "let rip" with on metacritic and other sites in order to counter the shilling reviews put out by "others".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭GarethBah


    Not sure why you are hating on SWTOR, yes it's got some bugs but it's nothing that can be fixed can I ask what level you got to before you stopped playing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Thoroughly enjoying it so far, lvl 22 Sorc. Leveling with a friend so its generally good fun. I like the storyline idea, definitely a nice slant on how to level.

    Oxo, why cant you just go away if you don't like it? And lol at asking people if they work for bioware or ea just because they don't agree with you.


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