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Transfer Flop of the year 2011

  • 18-12-2011 2:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭


    Has to be torres


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Carroll a very close second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Stat wise its torres.

    Goals/games ratio!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Torres or Carroll.

    End of thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Carroll definitely


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Torres without any doubt at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Carroll.
    At least we know what Torres can do. I still think he'll come back to form.
    As for Carroll... he just will never be worth that pricetag EVER.

    Also, Chelsea could afford to splash that money.
    Liverpool couldn't to the same degree, which impacts more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Torres

    25 Games / 3 Goals

    Carroll

    19 Games / 4 Goals

    Their both ****e though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    this doesnt really need alot of thinking, 2 candidates only.

    Carrlol for me, he has been a pityful signing for liverpool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Torres Vs Carroll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,268 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    1. Torres.
    2. Carroll.

    Close though, they're both extremely shíte.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Jordan Henderson.... for a different point of view. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Ruud Gullit to Grozny as Manager for so many reasons. Odd to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Ricketts to Rovers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Ricketts to Rovers

    Should have been innoculated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    LucasLeiva87 Lucas Leiva





    Yessssssssssssss

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Carroll for me too, how did Newcastle con Liverpool into paying 35 million for him is beyond me, extortion of the highest order :eek: At least Torres has world class attributes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    Can't believe no one has mentioned torres or Carroll yet!


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    Mars Bar wrote: »
    :confused:

    oops, wrong thread :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭iMuse


    Nzogbia for villa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    iMuse wrote: »
    Nzogbia for villa

    Good player but that Villa are absolutely pathetic under McLeish I dont think any player could shine for them.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Robbie Keane didn't exactly set the world alight for us. I know he was only on loan but we did pay him some 60-70k a week. His miss against Blackburn in the third last game still gives me nightmares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    It's Torres by a mile.

    Carroll is looking bad right now but at least his best years are still ahead of him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Carroll was a panic buy in fairness.

    Torres went to chelsea and there wasn't much time for 'pool to get a good replacement so they paid huge money for a big striker scoring the goals at the time.

    Dalglish probably thought that if they didn't sign anyone and they struggled then everyone would be saying "oh they didn't replace Torres in January". So they spent a huge amount on an english player who was scoring loads of goals and thought it was worth the risk..

    Torres wasn't playing well was he when he signed.

    Both shocking this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    It's Torres by a mile.

    Carroll is looking bad right now but at least his best years are still ahead of him.
    Torres is only 27, will be in the peak of his career for the next 3-4 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Kettle316


    Samich wrote: »
    Carroll was a panic buy in fairness.

    Torres went to chelsea and there wasn't much time for 'pool to get a good replacement so they paid huge money for a big striker scoring the goals at the time.

    Dalglish probably thought that if they didn't sign anyone and they struggled then everyone would be saying "oh they didn't replace Torres in January". So they spent a huge amount on an english player who was scoring loads of goals and thought it was worth the risk..

    Torres wasn't playing well was he when he signed.

    Both shocking this season.

    Thats not how the deal went.......Torres wanted to go to Chelsea and Liverpool wanted to make 15 million more for Torres than what they were paying for Andy Carroll....the original fee agreed was 20 million for Carroll but at the last minute Mike Ashley said he wanted 35 million....Liverpool then went to Chelsea and said they wanted 50 million for Torres and Chelsea accepted.

    Liverpool will also save close to 17 million over th course of Andy Carrolls 5-year contract due to the wage difference between the two players.

    BTW Torres has definitely been the flop transfer of the season for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,321 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Torres is only 27, will be in the peak of his career for the next 3-4 years.

    Are they planning on inventing bionic hamstrings in the next 3-4 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭NufcNavan


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Torres is only 27, will be in the peak of his career for the next 3-4 years.
    I don't really buy that. A peak period for a striker is generally between 25-29.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Torres is only 27, will be in the peak of his career for the next 3-4 years.

    Only if you rely on football's conventional wisdom - which is usually complete and utter rubbish - and completely ignore the glaring reality in front of you.

    Torres is physically nowhere near what he was at the beginning with Liverpool, which is when he was at his peak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Kettle316 wrote: »
    Thats not how the deal went.......Torres wanted to go to Chelsea and Liverpool wanted to make 15 million more for Torres than what they were paying for Andy Carroll....the original fee agreed was 20 million for Carroll but at the last minute Mike Ashley said he wanted 35 million....Liverpool then went to Chelsea and said they wanted 50 million for Torres and Chelsea accepted.

    Liverpool will also save close to 17 million over th course of Andy Carrolls 5-year contract due to the wage difference between the two players.

    BTW Torres has definitely been the flop transfer of the season for me.

    That's assuming Andy Carroll stays with Liverpool for five years. You'd get good odds on that happening I reckon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Carroll is still young and will get time, Torres was bought to be a 20 goal a season man straight away. We'll see who is sold first I suppose.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭Sappy404


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Torres is only 27, will be in the peak of his career for the next 3-4 years.

    His peak age, yes. The peak of his career? Not bloody likely.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    Torres definately, he wasn't on fire when Chelsea bought him. Carroll was bad but if you look at it, Torres was worth Carroll plus another player (who turned out very nicely).

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Carroll or Torres.

    hmmmm Torres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Nasri has been woeful for City also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭eugeneious


    Nasri has been woeful for City also.

    Totally disagree. While he hasn't set the world alight he has still be quite decent just not as good as the likes of Silva etc. He's only one assist off equaling his record during his whole time at Arsenal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭ynwa_17


    Not so much a flop, but Bolton not selling Gary Cahill is a huge transfer mistake for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    What about MisterMen for Crazy Horse 6...............:pac:


    I'll get my coat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    What about MisterMen for Crazy Horse 6...............:pac:


    I'll get my coat



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Kettle316 wrote: »
    Thats not how the deal went.......Torres wanted to go to Chelsea and Liverpool wanted to make 15 million more for Torres than what they were paying for Andy Carroll....the original fee agreed was 20 million for Carroll but at the last minute Mike Ashley said he wanted 35 million....Liverpool then went to Chelsea and said they wanted 50 million for Torres and Chelsea accepted.

    Liverpool will also save close to 17 million over th course of Andy Carrolls 5-year contract due to the wage difference between the two players.

    BTW Torres has definitely been the flop transfer of the season for me.
    :):D:)
    I love how Liverpool fans imagine these scenarios to make things not look so bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    :):D:)
    I love how some Liverpool fans imagine these scenarios to make things not look so bad.

    Important FYP... really, not all of us think the same way. Stop with the tarring. It smells


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    cambo2008 wrote: »
    :):D:)
    I love how some Liverpool fans imagine these scenarios to make things not look so bad.

    Important FYP... really, not all of us think the same way. Stop with the tarring. It smells
    If I meant all I would have said all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Kettle316


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    :):D:)
    I love how Liverpool fans imagine these scenarios to make things not look so bad.

    Read articles at the time of the transfer that detailed the whoe situation!!

    Also I'm a United fan dude :D!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    If I meant all I would have said all.

    If you'd have meant you'd have said some! ;)

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Kettle316 wrote: »
    cambo2008 wrote: »
    :):D:)
    I love how Liverpool fans imagine these scenarios to make things not look so bad.

    Read articles at the time of the transfer that detailed the whoe situation!!

    Also I'm a United fan dude :D!!
    Dont believe everything you read :)
    My point still stands,these claims were made by SOME Liverpool fans and somehow are accepted as fact by many without anything to back it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    K-9 wrote: »
    cambo2008 wrote: »
    If I meant all I would have said all.

    If you'd have meant you'd have said some! ;)
    Not really,I had sausages for dinner today,I didn't have all the sausages in the world but I don't think it necessary to explain that to people ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Dont believe everything you read :)
    My point still stands,these claims were made by SOME Liverpool fans and somehow are accepted as fact by many without anything to back it up.

    John Henry stated that's how they worked it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Dont believe everything you read :)
    My point still stands,these claims were made by SOME Liverpool fans and somehow are accepted as fact by many without anything to back it up.

    Nothing to back it up except the owners quotes!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    John Henry stated that's how they worked it.
    Well then it must be true,sure what possible reason could he have to say that ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Kettle316


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Dont believe everything you read :)
    My point still stands,these claims were made by SOME Liverpool fans and somehow are accepted as fact by many without anything to back it up.

    I don't if it was made up.....fair enough if it was just the one but i remember reading a few articles that went throught all the details!!

    It's like saying that all the talk of Sneijder joining United in the summer was all made up because it was only the papers/TV talking ;)!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Well then it must be true,sure what possible reason could he have to say that ;)

    Why the cynicism then?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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