UPC now supplying Cisco EPC3925 for faster speeds?

TweekeewT

Finally got around to upgrading my 30 meg UPC connection to 50 meg and was fully expecting to receive the Thompson router. When the courier delivered it today I was very surprised, then, to open the box and find a Cisco EPC3925 - I initially thought they'd made a mistake and sent me another 2425, as they look almost identical at first glance.

The one slight problem is that, as I was expecting the Thompson router, all my research into the flaws and workarounds of that one are useless! It's actually very difficult to find much opinion (in English) on the Cisco at all on the net.

First impressions: the interface is about a million times better than on the old Cisco, but the wireless signal seems a bit weaker - it's only got an internal antenna and no external one. Does do 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz but not both at the same time.

mark17j

TweekeewT wrote: »

Finally got around to upgrading my 30 meg UPC connection to 50 meg and was fully expecting to receive the Thompson router. When the courier delivered it today I was very surprised, then, to open the box and find a Cisco EPC3925 - I initially thought they'd made a mistake and sent me another 2425, as they look almost identical at first glance.

The one slight problem is that, as I was expecting the Thompson router, all my research into the flaws and workarounds of that one are useless! It's actually very difficult to find much opinion (in English) on the Cisco at all on the net.

First impressions: the interface is about a million times better than on the old Cisco, but the wireless signal seems a bit weaker - it's only got an internal antenna and no external one. Does do 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz but not both at the same time.

So is this the new modem for all new 50mb subscriptions?
if so i'll stick with my 2425, I depend on the wireless function allot and the 2425 gives me a good constant signal.

TweekeewT

mark17j wrote: »

I depend on the wireless function allot and the 2425 gives me a good constant signal.

I should say that I didn't do any rigorous testing - I was getting dropouts at a similar range when I used wireless on the 2425 so I don't know if there's a dramatic difference.

d49nbrwuac0is8

Hey i was on 100mb with the thompson , wireless was fine, (well as good as wireless can get) im now on the 100mb business package so far the download 105mb and upload 9.2mb are the same on the new cisco router , but in reality i only get a solid download of 6 or 7mb per sec, and upload max is 1.13mb per second. they told me that they were having problems with the thompson woirelss routers so theyv stopped using them and wait for it.. wait for it... theyr bringing out 200mb next year

demanufactured

So does it have a bridge mode

TweekeewT

Not that I can see, no. This still seems like the best solution for bridging.

demanufactured

TweekeewT wrote: »

Not that I can see, no. This still seems like the best solution for bridging.

For **** sake......

d49nbrwuac0is8

yes i t does, im not a tech expert, but i saw an option for bridge mode a second ago

Jonathan

Finally. All I want is a DOCSIS 3.0 device that supports bridging.

d49nbrwuac0is8

i was tryna do a screen shot ther but im not used to the new setup screen yet, i only use it to keep an eye on wireless connections ya know. Il have a poke around the menu again.

d49nbrwuac0is8

is that it? its a repeater or something, i really dont get all this tech stuff but i defo saw a bridge mode tab when i first opened the router ip

demanufactured

No thats not it...It might be under services or administration...

AlmightyCushion

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1375138

Looks like it does indeed have bridge mode. Now all we need to find out is if phones will work with it while in bridge mode.

d49nbrwuac0is8

sorry folks im lost, wtf is bridging anyway, in 10 words, im presuming it has something to do with data tranfer

d49nbrwuac0is8

http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/bridge

still dont get it though, is it something to do with being able to hijack networks with a cloned mac address or something, please explain in 10 words

AlmightyCushion

Walter Bewildered Student wrote: »

http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/bridge

still dont get it though, is it something to do with being able to hijack networks with a cloned mac address or something, please explain in 10 words

The cisco box you have has both a modem and a router. The modem handles the internet connection and the router handles all your local connections (laptops, computers, games consoles etc). Some people buy nice expensive routers that are pretty shít hot and much better than the one built into the cisco. Bridging lets them use their router instead of the built in one.

d49nbrwuac0is8

ah ok, would a "**** hot" router allow me to allocate only a specific amount of bandwith for a wireless device ? eg allocate a max of 10mb for say an ipad

demanufactured

Yup

mark17j

Bridging is, connecting a different router usually better to the current UPC modem and using that instead for internet access. If the bridging works with phone on this model, that would be excellent.

mmrs

Just upgraded to 100Mb. Dont like the new router. How would I go about bridging this? n00b:)

offline.seller

This does in fact support bridging. I had two installed during the week and are both configured in bridge mode. Seems to have sorted some latency issues we were having with the older model too.

offline.seller

Also, bridge mode was configured from UPC's end.

d49nbrwuac0is8

im defo not gettin the same upload speed, i was gettin a solid 1.13mb steady upstream for filing and now im getting about 800kpbs, if it continues to be that slow off peak and during peak im gonna **** this router back at em , if its the network then il jsut dis-continue the contract, i mean how on earth could a residential package outperform a business package.

lynchie

offline.seller wrote: »

Also, bridge mode was configured from UPC's end.

Do you have the phone from them too as the other model supported bridging but the phone didn't work in bridge mode so couldn't use it.

bricks

If you think about it the phone would need its own real internet address to comunicate back to UPC. So maybe they just don't want to give out more than one IP address to each customer.

Is bridge mode an official option on the new router or does it have to be hacked like the old one?

vibe666

bricks wrote: »

If you think about it the phone would need its own real internet address to comunicate back to UPC. So maybe they just don't want to give out more than one IP address to each customer.

Is bridge mode an official option on the new router or does it have to be hacked like the old one?

the phone and broadband are completely separate.

yes it's still voip, but not in the same sense as say skype or blueface is, it's not being sent directly over your internet connection, the two are totally segregated.

burt

offline.seller wrote: »

Also, bridge mode was configured from UPC's end.

Were your installs business or consumer? If I just call them, will they enable bridging?

kellizer

Hi - I just received the Cisco EPC3925 router this morning and believe this does NOT support bridging as it comes - I have looked at every tab and cannot find it. From the other forums I believe it does support it however not as UPC configures it.

Also - How can UPC enable it remotely as this is a router centric configuration option and nothing to do with the data connection..

I am trying to get this to connect to my vigor 2920n router as this has many more options (VPN/Call-In etc..)

Thanks,

Ian.

kellizer

I think this answers the question..

http://www.pcwintech.com/files/screenshots/cisco-epc3925/020.png

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the UPC version

sweetie

am i correct in saying that i cannot change the wifi password on this modem like I did with my last upc one? seems to be well locked down!

frlinux

Got that modem today after upgrading to 50Mb, very nice speed as far as i am concerned: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1792574564.png

Now I can also confirmed that they disabled bridging and also that IP passthrough is not possible. That said, way better device than the thomson.

frlinux

sweetie wrote: »

am i correct in saying that i cannot change the wifi password on this modem like I did with my last upc one? seems to be well locked down!

Wrong, you can change it, log on then click on Wireless/Wireless Security.

Nothingbetter2d

the 24xx series cisco routers wont do 50mb or higher

you need the 39xx series for that.

Turbine

We recently got upgraded to this new router, but the signal is pretty poor, so its very difficult to even get a connection 4-5m from the router.

From reading some of the replies, am I right in saying that I wouldn't be able to connect another wireless router to this cisco epc3925 one in order to give a better signal?

mark17j

After reading this thread I think i'll hold onto my Cisco 2524 and not upgrade to 50mb after all. never thought i'd ever say that.lol I rely on the wireless function allot.

billyj2

Hi,
just recently changed to UPC and received the 3925. Does anyone know how to manage bandwidth on wireless devices? I think someone else on this thread already asked that. Previously I was on eircom and found the settings on their modem, but it isn't jumping out at me on the EPC interface.
Cheers

rezzer

I got the New cisco EPC3925 last week because of the rebooting/wiping problem with that thomson crap.
The wifi is super **** on the cisco. I feel I traded one problem with another even worse problem.
I could have lived with the rebooting. It use to only happen me when I turned on a lan connected pc but the wifi on the Cisco is a non runner. Something has to change. It seams to be worse on my wife's Iphone 4S. My Galaxy s2 can get it mostly but if I'm in the kitchen it tends to drop out. I'm talking about a distance of 9m at most. The problem is the kitchen is on the other side of a gable wall. The thomson had no issue with it though.
These things are not cheap. The service engineer said the thomson was something like €300.
Un Fecken Believable...

demanufactured

Seriously can they not get a decent Docsis 3.0 Modem only device and allow us to use our own routers like we had with the EPC2203....****ing ridiculous in this day and age.
The 2203 had ports for the phone so that end was taken care of, you literally had a straight connection to UPC's network with your own router.

billyj2

Yes, agree completely, I still have the Eircom modem sitting there because of 30 day notice period. The difference in the wireless signal is fairly significant between the two in some parts of the house. My son is still using eircom on his laptop, he is in for a bit of a shock when it is turned off!

billyj2

mark17j wrote: »

After reading this thread I think i'll hold onto my Cisco 2524 and not upgrade to 50mb after all. never thought i'd ever say that.lol I rely on the wireless function allot.

I have been running some speed tests on my (supposedly 50mb) connection and I am getting about 30mb - which to be honest is perfectly fine, we stream and do other stuff and it is grand. Don't know if you are a really heavy user, but for most purposes I reckon sticking with 25 - if you are getting 25 - is probably a perfectly good service.

mustang01

i have just received an upgraded modem/router (cisco EPC3925) to replace my previous seperate modem and router (netgear) setup, from wha i find so far this new unit is crap , my old setup had signal strength of 75% and speed of 48mbps versus cisco unit of 45% and speed of 24mbps

netgear unit is 4 years old and a lot faster by the figures , i rang upc about it and they say changed a few settings and router channel but it is no better , they say the cisco unit is far better, am i missing sumit or is this new cisco unit just crap ? anyone anyone experiences like this ?

also just wondering what mbps speeds should i be achieving with this new unit ?

Balinov

mustang01 wrote: »

i have just received an upgraded modem/router (cisco EPC3925) to replace my previous seperate modem and router (netgear) setup, from wha i find so far this new unit is crap , my old setup had signal strength of 75% and speed of 48mbps versus cisco unit of 45% and speed of 24mbps

netgear unit is 4 years old and a lot faster by the figures , i rang upc about it and they say changed a few settings and router channel but it is no better , they say the cisco unit is far better, am i missing sumit or is this new cisco unit just crap ? anyone anyone experiences like this ?

also just wondering what mbps speeds should i be achieving with this new unit ?

Hiya, just got my EPC3925 today replacing my 3,5yrs old modem+router setup (even if the guy from UPC told me I'm going to get a 2425 and the attached brochure says the same BS).

Like Mustang01 I still have the old Scientific Atlanta + Netgear WRG619 v9 setup, working stable with no flaws. Reading this thread makes me worried, but I think I'll give a try on the new stuff tonight, but what if I'm not happy and would like to get back to the old setup?

Will that work w/o any issue, delay, etc?

Tks & cheers
Balinov

grizzly

Using the new 3925 modem – received last week – my WiFi is much weaker. I can no longer pick up a reliable signal in any room the modem is not located (might be thick walls?).

For the record, there's no change at all on wired speeds.

Paulw

I'm considering moving from the 25mb package to the 100mb one.

With the new router, is it possible to totally disable wireless on it, and then use my own wireless router?

Mister Gooey

Paulw wrote: »

I'm considering moving from the 25mb package to the 100mb one.

With the new router, is it possible to totally disable wireless on it, and then use my own wireless router?

Yes!

neGev

So, the 3925 can't be used in bridging mode?

Grawns

Got offered the Cisco epc3925 as a free upgrade and stupidly said yes. The range is rubbish and I only upgraded in the hope of a better signal/aerial than the 2425. Lost wifi in several rooms with new yoke:mad

Was all set to demand my old modem back but I thought I'd try an
Old range expander that wouldn't work with the 2425. Works great now and have signal in rooms that were always out of range:)

Lucky that I had a linksys Wre54g knocking around otherwise worst upgrade ever.

Tango One

I had a problem with the range on my mine changing the encryption from WPA TKIP to WPA AES seems to have improved things.

neGev

neGev wrote: »

So, the 3925 can't be used in bridging mode?

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Stone

Mister Gooey wrote: »

Originally Posted by Paulw
I'm considering moving from the 25mb package to the 100mb one.

With the new router, is it possible to totally disable wireless on it, and then use my own wireless router?

Yes!

Would you mind telling how as it seems - according to other posts - that the 3925 does NOT allow for bridging ??

matt-dublin

Turn off dhcp server on your wireless router, plug LAN port of router into LAN port of Cisco, configure up settings and presto