"Problem Family" Vs "Ignorant People"

zeds alive

Nice bit of sensationalism on behalf of the Carlow People and ignorance on behalf of the people of Myshall.
I know the family in question(not personally) they live on the same road as my mam ,I don't get the whole way they have been portrayed , they have had on going problems with their next door neighbour(s) and were moved to the nearest available council house (Myshall) where they don't have neighbours.
I find the peoples reaction the photo a bit ridiculous , I would wager that 95% of the people in the photo don't even know the family in question.

http://www.carlowpeople.ie/news/do-not-bring-problem-here-2962009.html

ottostreet

I'm inclined to think there's no smoke without fire.

slimjimmc

Was covered on the 6:01 news last evening too. Got a good bit of TV air time, interviews, the lot.

zeds alive

slimjimmc wrote: »

Was covered on the 6:01 news last evening too. Got a good bit of TV air time, interviews, the lot.

http://www.rte.ie/news/av/2011/1212/media-3139393.html#

Just saw that , bit OTT , They are a proper bunch of dole lifers from parents to kids , they ain't no angels but compared to some of the other young lads going around here they aren't that bad , by the looks of things it ain't happening anyway. Myshall is a strange place.

foggy_lad

Are the family being moved because they have been involved in anti-social behaviour or have they been unfortunate victims of some of the worse elements that can exist in some "close knit" housing estates?

johnny_cash

I don't know the family but if the story's i heard about them are true i wouldn't want them living beside me either.

foggy_lad

johnny_cash wrote: »

I don't know the family but if the story's i heard about them are true i wouldn't want them living beside me either.

I wouldn't believe any stories anyway because Carlow people are awful gossips and you don't know who is telling the truth or who has started off any rumors (probably those with an interest in the story).

Laura_lolly87

It's not ignorant people. Everyone from the area knows these of these people. Why is it fair to put these people in Myshall and make us put up with this antisocial behaviour.
If they really want to give this family a fresh start they should move them further away where less people would be likely to have prejudice against them.

foggy_lad

Laura_lolly87 wrote: »

It's not ignorant people. Everyone from the area knows these of these people. Why is it fair to put these people in Myshall and make us put up with this antisocial behaviour.
If they really want to give this family a fresh start they should move them further away where less people would be likely to have prejudice against them.

If they or any other family are responsible for anti-social behaviour should they be housed by the council?

Laura_lolly87

foggy_lad wrote: »

If they or any other family are responsible for anti-social behaviour should they be housed by the council?

I would never like to see any family living on the street but I don't think it's a good idea to move a family to an area where they are clearly not wanted.

tombull82

Laura_lolly87 wrote: »

I would never like to see any family living on the street but I don't think it's a good idea to move a family to an area where they are clearly not wanted.

It will be interesting to see how far it goes.

I heard of a similar "relocation" a few years ago that ended up with a council house ending up burnt to the ground so no one could live in it.

scatter

I say well done to those people who protested . Putting a problem family into any area ,what do you think is going to happen ? If they dont respect and mind the council house they had and respect their neighbours in Bagnalstown ,would it be any different if they were landed here.?Although i think they would have got a lesson in manners fairly quick .

Laura_lolly87

I heard yesterday that they won't be moved in, but that's just hearsay, not directly from anyone down protesting.

Dboy85

If its the family I think, I grew up in that estate. They're not that bad tbh, they lack a bit of intelligence more so than being lunatics.

zeds alive

Everyone in your area 'knows' of these people , they don't know them , they like most people know stories and chinese whispers , my knowledge of these people comes from growing up close to them , my mam still lives on the same street and has never ever had a problem ,I have never had a problem everyone I know has never had a problem... What you know and what you hear are two different things.
They are not angels , but they defiantly are not that bad to be worthy of a 24hr protest considering they are being moved because of a problem with 1 neighbour , this is where the 'ignorant' comment comes from.
I would be willing to wage money that the majority of the people pictured on the front of the Carlow people could not even tell these kids from another.

Laura_lolly87 wrote: »

It's not ignorant people. Everyone from the area knows these of these people. Why is it fair to put these people in Myshall and make us put up with this antisocial behaviour.
If they really want to give this family a fresh start they should move them further away where less people would be likely to have prejudice against them.

foggy_lad

zeds alive wrote: »

Everyone in your area 'knows' of these people , they don't know them , they like most people know stories and chinese whispers , my knowledge of these people comes from growing up close to them , my mam still lives on the same street and has never ever had a problem ,I have never had a problem everyone I know has never had a problem... What you know and what you hear are two different things.
They are not angels , but they defiantly are not that bad to be worthy of a 24hr protest considering they are being moved because of a problem with 1 neighbour , this is where the 'ignorant' comment comes from.
I would be willing to wage money that the majority of the people pictured on the front of the Carlow people could not even tell these kids from another.

I would think they have a problem with more than just one neighbour as you put it to warrant being moved out of the estate by the council. Are they the subject of any eviction proceedings or have the council just decided to move anyone that applies for a move?

iTom

Well I have heard that no one will be moving into that house in Myshall until the end of April 2012. The Council are going to continue to do repairs to the house until then.
I don't know the family but I have heard the its a family of six,so how would a family of six live right in a two bed room house.

zeds alive

foggy_lad wrote: »

I would think they have a problem with more than just one neighbour as you put it to warrant being moved out of the estate by the council. Are they the subject of any eviction proceedings or have the council just decided to move anyone that applies for a move?

I'm not sure about the move , but according to my mam the situation with the neighbour has been going on for years and finally came to head recently , so after non stop complaints from both sides both were given an option to move and one took it.

I'm not coming to their defence , I think they are a bunch of wasters , I'm just amazed at the reaction to their move...

zeds alive

iTom wrote: »

I don't know the family but I have heard the its a family of six,so how would a family of six live right in a two bed room house.

I'm *guessing* that the oldest(18+) kids have probably been given their own response appartment? leaving the family at 4?

What I find strange is that there is 3 council houses boarded up and abandoned for the last 6 months - 1 year around the town but these have not been allocated to them.

amandaf675

Tbh the family in question are trouble! Its not them being portrayed bad! My bf is from the area, just around the corner from them and Ive seen some of the stuff they have done! If they moved anywhere near me id be pretty peeved off aswel! There Trouble with a capital T

bogof

Just heard they are now living in Graigue.

bogof

I just heard they are now living in Graigue.

Owryan

bogof wrote: »

I just heard they are now living in Graigue.

heard it myself just now, locals not too happy. the council have moved enough troublesome families into graigue already

Owryan

they ve been moved into a house near st clares church, hopefully our local reps will make themselves available to listen to the concerns of people living in graigue

testicle

They're in one of the first block of apartments down from the bridge on Castle Quay. Brewery?

Owryan

testicle wrote: »

They're in one of the first block of apartments down from the bridge on Castle Quay. Brewery?

thanks, couldnt think of the name, told my mother and she is terrified .

foggy_lad

Owryan wrote: »

they ve been moved into a house near st clares church, hopefully our local reps will make themselves available to listen to the concerns of people living in graigue

testicle wrote: »

They're in one of the first block of apartments down from the bridge on Castle Quay. Brewery?

Owryan wrote: »

thanks, couldnt think of the name, told my mother and she is terrified .

Wouldn't it be nice at this time of year to wish people a happy Christmas in their new home?

zeds alive

Owryan wrote: »

thanks, couldnt think of the name, told my mother and she is terrified .

What did you tell her that made her terrified ?

Owryan

Shes been broken into before so naturally enough not best pleased about having more "troublemakers" moving to graigue.

Nothing to do with me, radio n papers have painted the family as undesireable.

foggy_lad

Are these the same family who were due to move into the burnt out house in County Kilkenny?

iTom

No Foggy_lad the are not the same.
The were living in Kilkenny for awhile and were to be moved to that house.

sinsin

I am being flippant and am not directly referring to this family.
I have seen 15 similar cases.
The others were extremely low IQ along with assorted psychiatric,emotional problem.
Neighboring hoses were seen as lucky dips etc.
but when the Jungle Juice meets the speed alongside a long weekend with a full moon.
Assume emergency position.
I once saw 4 squad cars,an ambulance and fire tender try to catch a 20 year old stark naked howling on a roof.Not a window unbroken.
Welcome to Carlow.
Everyone hear could list one location to avoid on a Bank Holiday Weekend.
For years they used to drive into the Barrow at Montgomery St and dance on the car roof or sit and smoke and refuse help.
Full Moons.
The drug seizures should help.:rolleyes:

sinsin

Owryan wrote: »

they ve been moved into a house near st clares church, hopefully our local reps will make themselves available to listen to the concerns of people living in graigue

Who is there now Murnane,Hurley.....who replaced Alcock?
They can do nothing Health Board can do what they like.
People are too stupid to cross the road,,Nanny State and all that.

Did you say Graigue was gone rough!!!!
Their will be a contract out on you.

Graige CULLEN is spoken using the same emphasis as Paisley when saying,LONDON dry or NORDREN irn.

This is important if you want to survive.

Never criticize it,
Carlow is effin CARLAH

Carlovians are referred to fondly as CARLAH CNUTS,


Please remember never to say I saw a good few Africans crossing the bridge, Murder.

I must confess to being the cause of this misunderstanding by Congratulating about 10 leading BIRKS (Traditional Name used by Carlovians for residents of CARLOWEGRAIGUE)

Correct name until UDI was declared about 1932
on their prospects in Laois SFC about 2002.


They were very touched by my support after being told for years that they were renegde,traiters /rats/ the usual Carlow/Graigue cultural exchange Governey lick arses etc mini riots in Kennedy St'

As I left I shouted through Bradleys that about eighty African males were counted retuning from Carlow to visit their Graigue girlfriends and that within twenty years they wound have some decent footballers.

I may have suggested changing the Clubs name to the Nairobi Crows.It is still a sensitive subject because of the surge in the Graigue/Nigeria birthrate in 2003,
There have been several vicious verbal attacks made on me but I will persevere NO SURRENDER,

GRAIGUE belongs to CARLAH.

BIRKS Feck back to Killeshin.

Remember 44! The road to sweet ATHY.

Dboy85

sinsin wrote: »

Who is there now Murnane,Hurley.....who replaced Alcock?
They can do nothing Health Board can do what they like.
People are too stupid to cross the road,,Nanny State and all that.

Did you say Graigue was gone rough!!!!
Their will be a contract out on you.

Graige CULLEN is spoken using the same emphasis as Paisley when saying,LONDON dry or NORDREN irn.

This is important if you want to survive.

Never criticize it,
Carlow is effin CARLAH

Carlovians are referred to fondly as CARLAH CNUTS,


Please remember never to say I saw a good few Africans crossing the bridge, Murder.

I must confess to being the cause of this misunderstanding by Congratulating about 10 leading BIRKS (Traditional Name used by Carlovians for residents of CARLOWEGRAIGUE)

Correct name until UDI was declared about 1932
on their prospects in Laois SFC about 2002.


They were very touched by my support after being told for years that they were renegde,traiters /rats/ the usual Carlow/Graigue cultural exchange Governey lick arses etc mini riots in Kennedy St'

As I left I shouted through Bradleys that about eighty African males were counted retuning from Carlow to visit their Graigue girlfriends and that within twenty years they wound have some decent footballers.

I may have suggested changing the Clubs name to the Nairobi Crows.It is still a sensitive subject because of the surge in the Graigue/Nigeria birthrate in 2003,
There have been several vicious verbal attacks made on me but I will persevere NO SURRENDER,

GRAIGUE belongs to CARLAH.

BIRKS Feck back to Killeshin.

Remember 44! The road to sweet ATHY.

I never read as much sh1te in my life.

Owryan

Dboy85 wrote: »

I never read as much sh1te in my life.

you read it ???????????

so much crap it made my eyes water

Mollyd90

I couldnt even understand it.

sinsin

Owryan wrote: »

you read it ???????????

so much crap it made my eyes water

That is life in the border area.
Years of drink and slobbber you don't know the half of it.

Dail seats were decided over that shytte.
There were ritual boxing matches for sixty years where a Carlow man would not come below the Market Cross or Graigue man above it.

Governeys employed all of Graigue,in Corcorans and The Boot Factory,Olivers.Barrow Mills. and throw in Watty Kehoes.

Carlow had a Berlin Wall through it over football.:o


Ask some auld lad.

:D:D
I knew it would wreck your heads.
There is worse!!

Finnbar01

They should link their social welfare payments to good behaviour.

If they don't behave themselves, cut them off.

foggy_lad

@sinsin Can i ask what you mean by

when the Jungle Juice meets the speed

Please remember never to say I saw a good few Africans crossing the bridge, Murder.

As I left I shouted through Bradleys that about eighty African males were counted retuning from Carlow to visit their Graigue girlfriends and that within twenty years they wound have some decent footballers.

I may have suggested changing the Clubs name to the Nairobi Crows.It is still a sensitive subject because of the surge in the Graigue/Nigeria birthrate in 2003,

Is there a distinct racist trend to your gibberish?

Fighting Irish

foggy_lad wrote: »

I wouldn't believe any stories anyway because Carlow people are awful gossips and you don't know who is telling the truth or who has started off any rumors (probably those with an interest in the story).

lol

compared to which other county?

there are gossips everywhere!

Dboy85

Fighting Irish wrote: »

there are gossips everywhere!

Isn't that why we're here Seriously though they weren't bad enough to warrant their own thread here or even to be afraid of. Anyone that says otherwise undoubtedly hasn't a clue about them and shouldn't be commenting in the first place. Don't believe all the sh1te in the nationalist, it's written by people so bored of their job that they blow anything remotely anti social completely out of proportion. Making them out to be the next Manson family serves nobody any good and does nothing only promote fear in the area they live in.

Dboy85

sinsin wrote: »

This is important if you want to survive.

:pac: I can hear Eminem playing in the background.

Seriously dude, this isn't the movies. Carlow is a nice place to live. By the chav sh1te you're spouting I suggest a lifestyle change. Lay down da' "gangsta" life and get a job and probably move out of your mams house.

Thundercats Ho

sinsin wrote: »

Garbage of the highest order.

Reported

Nothingbetter2d

we don't like your kind round 'ere!!!! mentality. Stupid boggers.

Dboy85

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

we don't like your kind round 'ere!!!! mentality. Stupid boggers.

Unless you can lift bales of hay for a monkey's salary.