What's the best eCig available now?

Eoin

I'm getting a bit sick of the hit & miss nature of my tornado, plus it looks like one of my batteries has died.

So if you were to start over and get a new eCig now, which one would it be - taking into account the flavour, throat hit, battery life and importantly - the consistency? (and one that doesn't include lots of DIY stuff).

mrplop

I'd go with the Lavtube;

http://www.irishvapers.ie/33-lavatube

In depth review here;

http://www.e-cig-reviews.com/lavatube.html

Difficult to get hold of right at the moment but if you don't mind the wait this is the best device available at a very reasonable price. Does pretty much everything that very expensive devices like the Provari will give you and has a 510 connection. They're a lot fatter than the Ego but if you don't mind compromising size department (ooh er) then they're a brilliant all round device.

These also work very nicely with standard resistance Ego atomisers if you have a 510 to Ego adapter.

Joe10000

10Motives is a brand of disposable e-cig currently available from a few tesco's in Dublin, has anyone tried them ?

mrplop

Disposables are pretty nasty but good to see Tesco stocking anything vaguely like an ecig.

Joe10000

I think they are pretty good.

mrplop

I tried one once - like sucking a straw.
You be better off with a 510 and they kind of suck too after all the advances in ecig technology.

achieve

If starting from scratch, I would still go with an automatic 510 with cartridge, which is what I did. They are reliable and easy to use for a beginner. But, that is if I was starting from scratch, which I'm not.

Although this vaping thing is still very new, there is I feel a natural progression one has to go through before moving onto Egos, ego T's, LR Cartomisers, Smokeymizers etc.

mrplop

I'd say start at a higher level and save yourself some time and money.
Get a Lavatube and some good cartos, bump your voltage when you feel you can handle it.

I skipped the 510 phase and went straight to an Ego - still wasn't enough.

alec76

I'd say start at a higher level and save yourself some time and money.

Agree , although it is not a bad idea to get 1 or 2 genuine joyetech EGO-T 900 batteries as well

Mike Litoris

I suppose its all relative to each individual but the disposable cartridge jobs are going to cost you a lot more in the long run. I saw two dudes have a stall set up outside Tesco Maynooth selling them.

I started with Ego-T batteries and Dual Coil Cartos. My Cuz was experimenting with tanks and atomisers. Still a smoker, I used to try them but it wasn't until he got the dual coil carto's that I decided I'd give it a go.

There was no effort and I haven't looked back since.

The 2 batteries are faultless, over 6 months in. I could get a month out of a carto but after 3 weeks the liquid starts looking a bit dark and dirty. Keep the carto wet and it wont burn out. The fall off in quality is only noticable when you put a fresh one on and its not much at that.

So yeah, I wouldn't change my set up. Took a while but I found my flavour too and its USA mix with Caramel, I'm mega happy with it.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you could get a month out of a dcc?

how often do you vape

Mike Litoris

Easily, Sir Digby. I've done it with at least 2 of them. I tend to drop a few squirts of liquid in every 3 hours to keep it wet. As long as it doesn't dry out, it wont lose flavour. It may lose volume and vapour but it's so gradual that its only noticable towards the end of the 4th week.

Its hard to gague how much I vape. I suppose I take a couple of pulls every 15 mins. That said I could go for an hour or so without touching it. I used to smoke 20 a day but I reckon thats been reduced as I can go without 1st thing in the morning for an hour.

I must mention though that I'm not really into the strong throat hit thing.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i guess i'm a metric ****ton pickier than you, I vape around the same amount an I generally bin mine after a week

Mike Litoris

At the end of the week, how do you find the carto?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it depends, sometimes the vapour/flavour just drops off to a level where I say "**** it, i have 4 more of these things" and sometimers the flavour/vapour stays ok but it just *eats* juice at a crazy rate, more than it did when i first started using it

the one ive been uwsing for the past week is like that now.. I refilled this thing 3 times already today and it's already kinda tasting dry

velocivaper

I can usually get average two weeks+ from a DCC keeping it wet and flushing it out once or twice. Some cartos of the same make last longer & some "taste" better than others. Maybe I'm not as fussy, after all I did spent 30 years inhaling burning leaves !

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

by flushing it out, you boil it a few times till the steam/water is clear of the flavour>?

Eoin

Sorry, when I meant start from scratch - I don't mean if you were a beginner, I just mean not caring if you couldn't use any of the stuff you already have, other than juice.

I'm happy to spend some cash on a totally new device; once it's consistent etc. The tornado has been OK, but if I can get something better which involves having two sets of chargers and carts etc, I'm OK with that.

I'm sick and tired of getting horizontal carts which are crap (bought 4 or 5 and binned them all), or DCCs/ Mega carts which are very hit & miss.

Plus two of my four batteries have died recently (have tried them with 3 different chargers), so now is a good as any time to try something new.

velocivaper

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

by flushing it out, you boil it a few times till the steam/water is clear of the flavour>?

The way I do it is attach a piece of clear plastic pipe to the drip tip, put the terminal end of the atty into a glass of very hot water, and carefully ! suck on the end of the tube till the water is half way up, and blow it out into the sink, repeat till the water runs clear, sometimes if I have it I'll finish with a bit of vodka in a clean glass, I think It helps it dry quicker. Put the atty on the rad for a few minutes to dry out.

velocivaper

Eoin wrote: »

Plus two of my four batteries have died recently (have tried them with 3 different chargers), so now is a good as any time to try something new.

How long did you get from them? just curious.

nesf

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i guess i'm a metric ****ton pickier than you, I vape around the same amount an I generally bin mine after a week

Exact same here, I get about a week out of one before the flavour etc gets a bit manky for me and I switch to a new one. Don't mind, at €2 a go they're not too expensive.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

eoin, lavatube or provari I guess and some boge carto's

nesf, aye. 2 euro a week is still way cheaper than cigs, so no hassle.

nesf

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

nesf, aye. 2 euro a week is still way cheaper than cigs, so no hassle.

I'm on both atm.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

quitting aid or harm reduction, at least the ecigs are still doing something for you

nesf

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

quitting aid or harm reduction, at least the ecigs are still doing something for you

Yeah fewer cigs a day. So I'm happy enough to be honest. The e-cig is useful in delaying that next cig etc.

Mike Litoris

nesf wrote: »

Yeah fewer cigs a day. So I'm happy enough to be honest. The e-cig is useful in delaying that next cig etc.

How many were you smoking before started vaping?

Of the people I got started on vaping, half faltered and the other half love them.

BTW, I'm still in work and my battery just died.:p Only an hour to go!!

velocivaper

I was thinking about this best ecig debate today (ie not very busy) and from what I can see most of the development appears to be in the battery and voltage control side of things, the "business " end i.e. the atomizer would seem to be a bit of a poor relation wrt improving the technology.
Personally I need some thing I can fill once a day, doesn't leak or otherwise disintegrate in my pocket, and delivers good value, ease of use, reliable performance, satisfying vapour production and taste.
The taste end of things is obviously subjective.The 510 atty with "wool" filled cartridge doesn't have the capacity, the tank attys I've used have mostly all leaked and then faded badly after about a week of use, plus are expensive @€;5-€6 a go. I have not tried the horizontal cartos, but they don't seem to get good reviews on this forum. I'm tempted to try the Smokymizer but I'm not gone on the plastic construction. This leaves the DCC xl which I use or get one of the rebuildable attys which I'd love to fiddle with but are a bit expensive for an impulse purchase. The LR DCC ticks most of the boxes, I havent got a dud one yet, but I bought a good few of them a couple of months ago so maybe the quality control has fallen since.
This is just my tuppence worth into the debate.

nesf

Mike Litoris wrote: »

How many were you smoking before started vaping?

40+. 20 now on a bad day. 10 on a good day. Varies a lot.

Eoin

velocivaper wrote: »

How long did you get from them? just curious.

One battery lasted 4 months, the other maybe 3/4 weeks. I'll double check them across the different chargers again to be sure.

I'll check out those other ones - thanks for the tips.

velocivaper

Thats a lot of bad luck with batteries, came across this on the screwdriver site: http://www.cavecom.com/screwdriver/forum/showthread.php?t=21251 Seems to implicate some out of spec atty connections crushing the insulating washer at the business end of the battery leading to a short circuit. I have a eGo-T branded battery and a non branded, the attys dont screw as far into the branded battery before I start to feel it tighten, the difference is literally a fraction of a millimeter. Just a thought..

Eoin

As it happened, I just found the battery I thought I lost a couple of months ago - and it still seems to have a full charge!

The technology is still immature, so I sort of expect the equipment to be quite flaky at times.

I don't know if it's worth getting a new device though, if it's just changing the battery. If I'm still stuck with the inconsistent atomisers, then it might not be worth my while.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

might have to bite the bullet and get one of the repairable atties so
bit of an investment in funds and time up front, but they seem to be a lot more 'sturdy' foir want of a better word

eithyer that, or order a buttload of atties from healthcabin
taken a while to get to you, but at least in bulk they'lkl individually cost sfa so a dud here or there won't matter as much

derra

Eoin wrote: »

As it happened, I just found the battery I thought I lost a couple of months ago - and it still seems to have a full charge!

The technology is still immature, so I sort of expect the equipment to be quite flaky at times.

I don't know if it's worth getting a new device though, if it's just changing the battery. If I'm still stuck with the inconsistent atomisers, then it might not be worth my while.

A few of us put our names down for the Genesis Line.
Here is a video tutorial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNLxehBbE1I

Ya must register here...
http://www.vaporwall.com/forum/index.php

Wait till admin confirms your registration as he is doing it one by one.
Find Line thread with the list for the Line under co-ops and projects.

The list closes tomorrow.
It's proving to be very popular for those that have them now.

$100 inc p&p . It comes setup to use,

Thereafter , you will need..
Wire:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kanthal-D-0-20-mm-10-m-Draht-Heizdraht-42-1-ohm-m-/280748212594?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415de5c172
Or
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/10-Mtrs-Nichrome-80-20-Resistance-Wire-0-20mm-0-0079in-/180606903099?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item2a0d02a33b#ht_500wt_1156

Mesh:
http://www.themeshcompany.com/acatalog/____span_style__color___000000__________strong____Ultra_Fine_400_Mesh_____strong_________span____.html#aWSS400SF_2dA4

Multimeter to check resistance.
A ligther would oxidise the mesh but would just take a lot longer so best with a torch for that purpose.

Disclaimer: I am not recommending you buy this but definitely consider it.
There are plenty of tutorials and help on sites.

One thing i will point out that i have read, eGo T batteries are hit and miss with this atty, because each setup is different and if the SS mesh is not thoroughly oxidized - they might short out on you.

My name is down for one, should i read something about it i don't like before payment i will not go through with it.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

eoin, lavatube or provari I guess and some boge carto's

.

just to touch on this again
got my lavatube this morning and using it with a boge XL510

****ing amazing

it's not compact, but it's not unseemly in size either.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

http://www.healthcabin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1076_1079&products_id=7798

i got 2 of these in my healthcabin order and just tried it out now. it's slightly dodgy at 4.8V as i have to keep turning it upside down after every drag or it's like I'm dry burning and inhaling but at 3.7V it's just fantastic. great vapour, fantastic flavour and one of the smoothest draws i've come across.

from what i've read online lifespan is on average 2 weeks, meant to be able to get more if you wash with water and dry burn/let it dry overnight. I got the version without the led, and im kinda regretting it now.. i bet it looks awesome when the whole thing turns blue

Eoin

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

eithyer that, or order a buttload of atties from healthcabin
taken a while to get to you, but at least in bulk they'lkl individually cost sfa so a dud here or there won't matter as much

I think that might be the way to go - those V.V. devices are big bucks!

Thanks for all the suggestions folks

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

well i was wrong about it taking ages to get to you, took 8 days for my order to get to me. shipped on the 12th, arrived on the 20th or something like that, with the xmas rush and all. so it's an even better option now

mrplop

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

well i was wrong about it taking ages to get to you, took 8 days for my order to get to me. shipped on the 12th, arrived on the 20th or something like that, with the xmas rush and all. so it's an even better option now

What was the postage, expensive?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it depends, you can go by china airmail which is pretty cheap but can take over a month to arrive or the courier option the minimum cost of which is 20 dollars iirc

i think for my order I paid around 40 dollars in shipping, for 1.8kg package or something
steep enough, but i still ended up saving because of the deals i was getting on the products themselves.

Eoin

I went with the cheaper shipping option, and even then it only just worked out cheaper than buying from thebestshop. That said, I only ordered a new battery and 5 DCCs to test them out. If they're any good, I'll put through a bigger order.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

ah yeah, you do have to buy a decent enough amount for the savings to really kick in.
suppose if a few people went in on an order it'd work out even cheaper for everyone again, free shipping on orders over 250 iirc

Tom123

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

ah yeah, you do have to buy a decent enough amount for the savings to really kick in.
suppose if a few people went in on an order it'd work out even cheaper for everyone again, free shipping on orders over 250 iirc

That sounds like a pretty good idea.

fannywart

Eoin wrote: »

I'm getting a bit sick of the hit & miss nature of my tornado, plus it looks like one of my batteries has died.

So if you were to start over and get a new eCig now, which one would it be - taking into account the flavour, throat hit, battery life and importantly - the consistency? (and one that doesn't include lots of DIY stuff).

Hi Eoin
I have been researching different ecigs and vendors
I found the cheapest Irish shop is a place called e-shop.ie
I got an ego c for.about 38 euros wi postage. Compared to thevapour store its alot cheaper. Also eliquid is only 2 euro for 10 MLS of I think dekang. To be fair I can only compare the ego c to disposable ecigs from peterol station. I am very pleased with the ego c.
I was looking at Chinese sellers '.the ecigs they sell are about 24$ with shipping this is very cheap but you have to wait a few weeks or a month. I got some e juice from china last week.it will not be posted for another week due to Chinese new year.grump

Eoin

fannywart wrote: »

Hi Eoin
I have been researching different ecigs and vendors
I found the cheapest Irish shop is a place called e-shop.ie
I got an ego c for.about 38 euros wi postage. Compared to thevapour store its alot cheaper. Also eliquid is only 2 euro for 10 MLS of I think dekang. To be fair I can only compare the ego c to disposable ecigs from peterol station. I am very pleased with the ego c.
I was looking at Chinese sellers '.the ecigs they sell are about 24$ with shipping this is very cheap but you have to wait a few weeks or a month. I got some e juice from china last week.it will not be posted for another week due to Chinese new year.grump

Thanks for that - this is an old enough thread, so I've since been sorted. I've been using a JTank with Boge XXL carts for a while now, and that's been working out pretty well for me.

Thanks for the link though; 2 quid for 10mls and free shipping is pretty good. I just ordered 10 bottles for 20 delivered. I think that would be just under 30 quid with the usual sites I use.

grindle

fannywart wrote: »

I have the best username ever.

Oh yes you do!

fannywart

Eoin wrote: »

Thanks for that - this is an old enough thread, so I've since been sorted. I've been using a JTank with Boge XXL carts for a while now, and that's been working out pretty well for me.

Thanks for the link though; 2 quid for 10mls and free shipping is pretty good. I just ordered 10 bottles for 20 delivered. I think that would be just under 30 quid with the usual sites I use.

The chocolate tasted really bad/burnt
But the cherry mixed with a bit of strawberry is the business for my sweet tooth.
Let me know what you try and what you find good.

Eoin

I'm a bit boring and stick to the tobacco or tobacco flavours. Marlboro or USA mix tends to be my favourite, with maybe a bit of menthol thrown in.

fannywart

Eoin wrote: »

I'm a bit boring and stick to the tobacco or tobacco flavours. Marlboro or USA mix tends to be my favourite, with maybe a bit of menthol thrown in.

Ill give it a go thanks

Mr. Chrome

Eoin wrote: »

I'm a bit boring and stick to the tobacco or tobacco flavours. Marlboro or USA mix tends to be my favourite, with maybe a bit of menthol thrown in.

Exactly what im on , like to keep it as close to fags as I can and I find usa mix does that, tried to be adventures once and added a bit of vanilla(cause I love vanilla) but it didnt work for me!! Mabe my taste buds aren't as advanced as others or I completely fecked them up after 28 years of smoking! Tried chocolate, coffee, fruit, mint, arse biscuit, etc. flavours but tbh(and I'll probably get lynched for this) I dont like them.

was.deevey

Taking into account what I know now, and not allowed to go down the rebuildable route, probably an Ego Twist and CE5 as a first E-Cig.

However if I was starting out again, knowing what I know now and allowed to choose anything, I'd probably go for a Provari Mini and some sort of Genesis. I don't see any point of a provari unless you are using a rebuildable hence the first choice of a Twist.

Eoin

fannywart wrote: »

Ill give it a go thanks

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Exactly what im on , like to keep it as close to fags as I can and I find usa mix does that, tried to be adventures once and added a bit of vanilla(cause I love vanilla) but it didnt work for me!! Mabe my taste buds aren't as advanced as others or I completely fecked them up after 28 years of smoking! Tried chocolate, coffee, fruit, mint, arse biscuit, etc. flavours but tbh(and I'll probably get lynched for this) I dont like them.

Bottles arrived today - pretty good value overall. Just mixed up 2 bottles of USA to one bottle of Mint, and it's going well so far.

was.deevey wrote: »

Taking into account what I know now, and not allowed to go down the rebuildable route, probably an Ego Twist and CE5 as a first E-Cig.

I might still give that a go, though I'm happy that I've found a reliable system in my JTank. Getting very few dud boge carts, which is a bonus.