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Olympic Torch
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08-12-2011 4:58pm#1
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Best thing about this is no politicians are allowed to be within 1km of the torch....I'll be interested to see who tries to weedle their way into the photo op though
No, according to the Irish Times politicians can greet the torch when it arrives, just can't carry it.
I'm not as keen on this as the rest of you. Ireland was not part of the UK, last time I looked, so why should the torch come here? I appreciate that this is the only chance Irish athletes will have to carry the torch, but what is the logic of the trip? Will the torch travel through Paraguay on the way to Rio?
(If it was part of a relay around all surrounding countries, or a relay from one host nation to the next, that would be different)
eta: maybe it's the mod in me coming out - I overvalue consistency
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No, according to the Irish Times politicians can greet the torch when it arrives, just can't carry it.
I'm not as keen on this as the rest of you. Ireland was not part of the UK, last time I looked, so why should the torch come here? I appreciate that this is the only chance Irish athletes will have to carry the torch, but what is the logic of the trip? Will the torch travel through Paraguay on the way to Rio?
(If it was part of a relay around all surrounding countries, or a relay from one host nation to the next, that would be different)
eta: maybe it's the mod in me coming out - I overvalue consistency
For the Beijing olympics the torch went all around the world in the months beforehand (remember the protests about China's human rights). Slightly strange its only the UK this time. Its raising the profile of the olympics in Ireland, no harm imo.
When the queen was over didnt Enda Kenny have a word with David Cameron about this happening?0 -
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No, according to the Irish Times politicians can greet the torch when it arrives, just can't carry it.
I'm not as keen on this as the rest of you. Ireland was not part of the UK, last time I looked, so why should the torch come here? I appreciate that this is the only chance Irish athletes will have to carry the torch, but what is the logic of the trip? Will the torch travel through Paraguay on the way to Rio?
(If it was part of a relay around all surrounding countries, or a relay from one host nation to the next, that would be different)
eta: maybe it's the mod in me coming out - I overvalue consistency
Prior to the hassle that they had with the Beijing torch doing the rounds of various other countries it would have been absolutely expected that the Olympics happening in Europe and the torch did a mini tour of the EU first. If there wasn't a ban then it would have made a trip around a few places, possibly not France as they would have been pissed off with Cameron and also probably still annoyed that they didn't get the games themselves. But it would have been totally expected for it to do a tour of Ireland and people would probably have complained it wasn't going everywhere in Ireland.
Now your annoyed that it's even doing a quick half day trip to Dublin. No pleasing some people.
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No, according to the Irish Times politicians can greet the torch when it arrives, just can't carry it.
I'm not as keen on this as the rest of you. Ireland was not part of the UK, last time I looked, so why should the torch come here? I appreciate that this is the only chance Irish athletes will have to carry the torch, but what is the logic of the trip? Will the torch travel through Paraguay on the way to Rio?
(If it was part of a relay around all surrounding countries, or a relay from one host nation to the next, that would be different)
eta: maybe it's the mod in me coming out - I overvalue consistency
Fully agree. It’s a big embarrassing. Our neighbours put on the greatest show in the world and we get a few hours to ride their coat tails through the Olympic torch.
Comes across as desperate, we’ve feck all facilities in Ireland but shure let’s pretend we’re part of the Olympics.
China used the torch to further their own political ends so I don’t think comparisons with them are valid. Plus it’s not going around Europe, its making a pit stop in Ireland. It's the equivalent of a pat on the head. It really is ridiculous. No doubt the money spent would probably get a new track at UCD built.0 -
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All around the world = fine
All around Europe = fine
Quick visit to Ireland = Ah sure we'll just drop over to the backyard, give the poor lads a go with the thing
Didn't the UK pay Ireland a few billion eurodollarpounds a couple of months back, least they could do is look after a lighter for a couple of hours.
The UK does want the money and the lighter back asap if at all possible.0 -
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All around the world = fine
All around Europe = fine
Quick visit to Ireland = Ah sure we'll just drop over to the backyard, give the poor lads a go with the thing
Good grief... :P
Anyway...isnt this the new Ireland.... shure anything for a photo op to bring in the tourist pounddollareuros (ala Lizzie and O'Bama)... just think of the increase in tourism and the prosperity it will bring to one and all :rolleyes:
Seriously though...if it brings one cent more into providing support for Athletics in Ireland it will be a good thing...and Enda will have pulled off a master stroke at getting it to drop by... (cough)0 -
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I'd love to know what the little kid on the right saw on Michael Carruth's back when this photo was taken
http://www.irishtimes.com/ 0 -
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tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »Bernard Brogan handing over to Paul Mc Grath within shouting distance from work, good stuff
And we have McGrath to Mark Pollock.0 -
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I was thrilled to see a guy running with a flaming torch here in Clondalkin, before realizing that the Olympic torch relay doesn't pass anywhere near here.
Given the day that's in it, the Olympic torch relay has its roots steeped in nazi propaganda:Though propagandists portrayed the torch relay as ancient tradition stretching back to the original Greek competitions, the event was in fact a Nazi invention, one typical of the Reich's love of flashy ceremonies and historical allusions to the old empires. And it's a tradition we still continue today, with this morning's lighting of the flame in Olympia, the birthplace of the original games circa 776 B.C., from which it will be carried by a series of relay runners to the site of the games, in this case London.
Something to think about, as you stand by, saluting the torch. 0 -
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Krusty_Clown wrote: »I was thrilled to see a guy running with a flaming torch here in Clondalkin, before realizing that the Olympic torch relay doesn't pass anywhere near here.
Given the day that's in it, the Olympic torch relay has its roots steeped in nazi propaganda:
Something to think about, as you stand by, saluting the torch.
No surprise then that it got into Croker despite the GAA having ongoing bans on Olympic sports.0 -
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