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Yve

Hi All

PLease can you give advice on the following.

Our little Man is 9 months old and for then past two weeks EVERY night he is waking screaming crying and very unsettled during the night. he can be awake for 3-4 hours at a time.

He has bumps along gum line for long time now and no sign of tooth but he is so distressed at night he is crying and screaming to the point of making himself sick.

I am six months pregnant and we are sooo tired and I sat crying this morn at 05.30. It's just desperate at this stage.

He is rubbing his ears , usual teething signs.. we pump him with nurofen, bonjela etc etc

is this habit?? do we leave him screaming and crying till he falls back asleep. ?? we have left him 30 mins and he got sick from crying

At wits end here ....

Lola92

At this stage you should be taking him to the GP to rule out that there is not something more serious going on.

Also if you are seeing no effect medicating him with nurofen etc. I really wouldn't continue to do it. It is not healthy to be constantly 'pumping him' with drugs!

Yve

Lola92 wrote: »

At this stage you should be taking him to the GP to rule out that there is not something more serious going on.

Also if you are seeing no effect medicating him with nurofen etc. I really wouldn't continue to do it. It is not healthy to be constantly 'pumping him' with drugs!

spoke with health nurse - told us we have him in bad habit lifting him.... its easy to say ok dont lift when you aint the one listening to the screaming

I may go Doc you're right - but will just be told to leave him crying i bet... he has no high temp or anything

Chicke

Why on earth would you leave a baby crying for thirty minutes until he gets sick
I'm sure he isn't doing it to inconvenience you!

Lola92

If he is screaming during the night and on a continuous basis then I would definitely bring him to GP, no questions.

The sleep deprivation is tough, especially as you are pregnant but it really is not worth taking the risk of him making himself ill to get a few extra hours sleep. Maybe you could take it in turns getting up with him every second night for a bit of a rest?

Yve

Chicke wrote: »

Why on earth would you leave a baby crying for thirty minutes until he gets sick
I'm sure he isn't doing it to inconvenience you!

No need for the tone - obviously distressed here....

as many people have told us including health nurse, he is in bad habits ??? and should be left to cry himself to sleep as he is in the habit of getting lifted and given milk etc etc ... just like people do when child is overtired and crying or being weened off a soother or what not....

January

Wouldn't be listening to the health nurse either... you're supposed to pick a crying baby up... and comfort them... that crying it out stuff is not good for them.

Yve

Chicke wrote: »

Why on earth would you leave a baby crying for thirty minutes until he gets sick
I'm sure he isn't doing it to inconvenience you!

we are first time parents and EVERYONE we speak to has different opinions including doctor and health nurses

lift him, dont lift him

give him milk, dont

dont get him into bad habits

i am wondering if anyone else has had same experience and if they solved it by not lifting or what??

Chicke

Report that health nurse.Seriously,letting a distressed baby cry unattended is horrible

Yve

Lola92 wrote: »

If he is screaming during the night and on a continuous basis then I would definitely bring him to GP, no questions.

The sleep deprivation is tough, especially as you are pregnant but it really is not worth taking the risk of him making himself ill to get a few extra hours sleep. Maybe you could take it in turns getting up with him every second night for a bit of a rest?

we do that

night on night off but sure he screams so bad that we are both awake...

I will as I said bring him doc, but docs tend to advise to speak to health nurse with these issues...

I am gettting so upset about this now.

sooo many people advise the crying it out thing but I just cant do it....

minotour

It just sounds like he's cutting his first tooth or maybe a bunch at the same time. Have you tried giving him "Teetha"

this stuff
http://www.hollandandbarrett.ie/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=946

Give him a sachet of that before bed and see how he gets on. You werent wrong to try controlled crying despite some of the replies here but it does sound like a genuine distress i.e. Pain, most likely caused by the bumps on his gums. You could also try a dash of calpol or perhaps neurofen if he gets really bad.

I know its hard, Ive twins who did the same and ebay wasnt my first choice, a much quicker solution was the balcony, however we resisted.

Oh and on the picking up/not picking up issue, i would pick him up and try soothing, you cold also bring him to your bed but thats a slippery slope.

How Strange

Groan...op please ignore that health nurse and anyone else who mentions bad habits or spoiling in the same sentence as your little son. Hes a wee baby not some master manipulator.

My son was driven absolutely crazy with teething pains from 3 months and like you we used far too much calpol and nurofen. I got him an amber teething necklace from teethingsos.com when he was 7 months and there was an almost immediate change in his temperment and most importantly in his sleeping. I've seen it mentioned that strong chamomile tea in a bath helps as does chamomila 30c which you can get from a homeopath or health store.

I think a trip to the gp is a good idea too just to rule out an ear infection or something else.

January

Your doctor should not be referring you back to the health nurse and if he is then please see another doctor.

It's a long road... my three year old still does not sleep through, she doesn't scream going to bed anymore though... I have a two year old and a 9 week old also, so it's not easy going. I just ended up taking her into the bed with me for a few months to get some sleep it was that bad... but it's different for everyone, my other two children are great sleepers, even the nine week old!

If it's teething, it can go on for a good while yet, my two year old is still teething and has sleepless nights sometimes... is it possible he's cold/hungry? What does he eat before he goes to bed? If he's drinking bottles at night time he's obviously still hungry because he wouldn't take it if he was full.

January

minotour wrote: »

It just sounds like he's cutting his first tooth or maybe a bunch at the same time. Have you tried giving him "Teetha"

this stuff
http://www.hollandandbarrett.ie/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=946

Give him a sachet of that before bed and see how he gets on. You werent wrong to try controlled crying despite some of the replies here but it does sound like a genuine distress i.e. Pain, most likely caused by the bumps on his gums. You could also try a dash of calpol or perhaps neurofen if he gets really bad.

I know its hard, Ive twins who did the same and ebay wasnt my first choice, a much quicker solution was the balcony, however we resisted.

Oh and on the picking up/not picking up issue, i would pick him up and try soothing, you cold also bring him to your bed but thats a slippery slope.

Controlled crying and letting the baby cry for up to 30 minutes alone in the room are two completely different things. Sorry OP, I know you're a first time parent and I know the stresses, I'm not getting to you, just saying that there are different ways to do things and I've often thought of just leaving mine crying until they fall asleep but I know it's not the right thing to do...

Controlled crying is going into them at different intervals 5/10 minutes and reassuring them that you are still there and if they get too distressed then you stop and comfort them and when they stop crying start again.

Yve

minotour wrote: »

It just sounds like he's cutting his first tooth or maybe a bunch at the same time. Have you tried giving him "Teetha"

this stuff
http://www.hollandandbarrett.ie/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=946

Give him a sachet of that before bed and see how he gets on. You werent wrong to try controlled crying despite some of the replies here but it does sound like a genuine distress i.e. Pain, most likely caused by the bumps on his gums. You could also try a dash of calpol or perhaps neurofen if he gets really bad.

I know its hard, Ive twins who did the same and ebay wasnt my first choice, a much quicker solution was the balcony, however we resisted.

Oh and on the picking up/not picking up issue, i would pick him up and try soothing, you cold also bring him to your bed but thats a slippery slope.

Thanks

Yes we give him teetha, we have the sachets and the gel, plus we have chammomile syrup and aniseed herbal stuff.

Had been giving him calpol but advised as he worsened to give him nurofen because of its anti inflamatory qualities.

we had been taking him to our bed you see... hence whay we keep being told we have dug our own graves now and he is in the habit of coming to bed with us...

but sure he screams in the bed too.... I have an appointment for tomorrow now.. if I am told to go health nurse I may change GP

Yve

January wrote: »

Controlled crying and letting the baby cry for up to 30 minutes alone in the room are two completely different things. Sorry OP, I know you're a first time parent and I know the stresses, I'm not getting to you, just saying that there are different ways to do things and I've often thought of just leaving mine crying until they fall asleep but I know it's not the right thing to do...

Controlled crying is going into them at different intervals 5/10 minutes and reassuring them that you are still there and if they get too distressed then you stop and comfort them and when they stop crying start again.

oh no we did that every few mins and put his soother back in and he got sick after 30 mins... i couldnt leave the room , i lay in the bed in his room in the dark

Yve

January wrote: »

Your doctor should not be referring you back to the health nurse and if he is then please see another doctor.

It's a long road... my three year old still does not sleep through, she doesn't scream going to bed anymore though... I have a two year old and a 9 week old also, so it's not easy going. I just ended up taking her into the bed with me for a few months to get some sleep it was that bad... but it's different for everyone, my other two children are great sleepers, even the nine week old!

If it's teething, it can go on for a good while yet, my two year old is still teething and has sleepless nights sometimes... is it possible he's cold/hungry? What does he eat before he goes to bed? If he's drinking bottles at night time he's obviously still hungry because he wouldn't take it if he was full.

he has his dinner and has 8/9 ounces bottle before bed... has a whopper of an appetite and eats a lot during the day...

Yve

How Strange wrote: »

Groan...op please ignore that health nurse and anyone else who mentions bad habits or spoiling in the same sentence as your little son. Hes a wee baby not some master manipulator.

My son was driven absolutely crazy with teething pains from 3 months and like you we used far too much calpol and nurofen. I got him an amber teething necklace from teethingsos.com when he was 7 months and there was an almost immediate change in his temperment and most importantly in his sleeping. I've seen it mentioned that strong chamomile tea in a bath helps as does chamomila 30c which you can get from a homeopath or health store.

I think a trip to the gp is a good idea too just to rule out an ear infection or something else.

Thank you so much for the advice.

It's so tough isnt it.... you can face anything in the day but when you only get 2-3 hours sleep at night its just so hard
i am going to get one of those necklaces - anything to try help him

Sin City

Yve wrote: »

How Strange wrote: »

Groan...op please ignore that health nurse and anyone else who mentions bad habits or spoiling in the same sentence as your little son. Hes a wee baby not some master manipulator.

My son was driven absolutely crazy with teething pains from 3 months and like you we used far too much calpol and nurofen. I got him an amber teething necklace from teethingsos.com when he was 7 months and there was an almost immediate change in his temperment and most importantly in his sleeping. I've seen it mentioned that strong chamomile tea in a bath helps as does chamomila 30c which you can get from a homeopath or health store.

I think a trip to the gp is a good idea too just to rule out an ear infection or something else.

Thank you so much for the advice.

It's so tough isnt it.... you can face anything in the day but when you only get 2-3 hours sleep at night its just so hard
i am going to get one of those necklaces - anything to try help him

Like everyone else.I would bring him to gp. Be careful with the neurofen I gave it to my son and he ended up with renal failure (won't happen to most children ) hopefully its just teething and some teething medicine may help . As a last resort just so one of ye can sleep someone could if possible spend the night in bed with him see if he will seattle easier .

Ayla

OP - You haven't mentioned what he's like during the day. Does he nap in his cot by himself (or at all?) Does he have these fits when he's going about his normal daytime activities?

I ask b/c if it's something that only seems to bother him when he's laying down, maybe it's not just teeth. Perhaps some acid reflux, which may also explain why he gets sick?

Just another (!) thing to consider. Good luck to you -

Yve

Ayla wrote: »

OP - You haven't mentioned what he's like during the day. Does he nap in his cot by himself (or at all?) Does he have these fits when he's going about his normal daytime activities?

I ask b/c if it's something that only seems to bother him when he's laying down, maybe it's not just teeth. Perhaps some acid reflux, which may also explain why he gets sick?

Just another (!) thing to consider. Good luck to you -

Hi Ayla

Little man is great during the day and is such a happy little man. has his two naps and goes down without the tiniest of whimper. (and like clock work)

It's just the night. he can wake at 10 - 12 and then again 2 -4 or 5.. it's exhausting and frustrating because we just hate hearing him cry like that.

He sleeps 2 and a half hours maximum total in the day so an over abundance of sleep in the day time cannot be the issue.

oh christ i dunno - will check out if there is something more going on other than teething... if its just teething, i dunno..... please santa bring him a tooth or two

rubberdiddies

Can I ask those who say that leaving a child cry to sleep for 20 mins is not good, why do you think it's not good?

Are there studies to show it's not good?

Genuinely interested.......

Moonbeam

Does the baby having crying fits during the day?
When did it start?

Ayla

I feel your pain - there were many nights I alternated between sobbing myself & eyeing up the distance to the nearest window

I'm just thinking that - given the details you've given - a couple things could be going on:

1. If he goes down for naps & to bed without a hitch, then it's not the cot he's resisting. I would be wondering if there wasn't something else going on, maybe something that only starts rearing its head after a couple hours' sleep (thus it wouldn't affect his daytime naps?) This is why I was thinking reflux (or similar) - maybe it takes awhile to build up, or maybe he sleeps deeply enough in the first hour or so that he doesn't notice it? Have you tried propping up the head end of the cot (ie: put a heavy book under the legs of the cot) or giving him a flat pillow to elevate his head?

2. I personally wouldn't think that it's any sort of seperation anxiety, b/c if it was he would settle instantly as soon as he's picked up (and he'd surely settle quickly if you brought him into bed). But he's not doing either, so I would personally say stuff it to anyone who's telling him to "cry it out."

friendlylady

Yve my heart goes out to you, you must be at your wits end. Your doctor I guarantee will not refer you back to your PHN. It sounds very like reflux to me, have you tried infasol drops (name might be slightly wrong, it's been a few years). Maybe try sleeping him in his buggy beside your bed tonight so that his top half is slightly raised, it can help with reflux (if this is the case and I'm not a medical professional by any means) but anyway good luck with GP tomorrow and let us know how you get on.:)

Yve

Moonbeam wrote: »

Does the baby having crying fits during the day?
When did it start?

never any crying fits during the day.

whole day goes so smoothly with him.

Goes directly to sleep at naps and when going to bed.

Its during the night the fun begins

oh and its rolling on two weeks now... previously he had been sleeping fine 8-05.30, would have bottle and go back to sleep till 7 for us

Ayla

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Can I ask those who say that leaving a child cry to sleep for 20 mins is not good, why do you think it's not good?

Are there studies to show it's not good?

Genuinely interested.......

Here's one:
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/fussy-baby/science-says-excessive-crying-could-be-harmful

And another quote:

Leaving a baby to cry evokes physiological responses that increase stress hormones. Crying infants experience an increase in heart rate, body temperature and blood pressure. These reactions are likely to result in overheating and, along with vomiting due to extreme distress, could pose a potential risk of SIDS in vulnerable infants. There may also be longer-term emotional effects. There is compelling evidence that increased levels of stress hormones may cause permanent changes in the stress responses of the infant's developing brain. These changes then affect memory, attention, and emotion, and can trigger an elevated response to stress throughout life...

http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/pinky_mckay.html

And another:

A review of the key literature supporting the use of extinction in infancy, however, reveals that the majority of studies were not conducted on infants, but rather on toddlers and preschoolers. ... As a result, the effects of crying it out for infants under 1 year have yet to be adequately investigated. Further, the notion that extended crying is not harmful for infants has never been empirically investigated.

http://www.infantsleep.org/cryingitoutresearch.html

January

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Can I ask those who say that leaving a child cry to sleep for 20 mins is not good, why do you think it's not good?

Are there studies to show it's not good?

Genuinely interested.......

Ayla wrote: »

Here's one:
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/fussy-baby/science-says-excessive-crying-could-be-harmful

And another quote:
http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/pinky_mckay.html

And another:
http://www.infantsleep.org/cryingitoutresearch.html

All the above, plus to mention it's just plain mean! Imagine being that small and hungry/cold/tired/sore or even just wanting a cuddle and you're just left in a room to cry to yourself...

Ayla

January wrote: »

All the above, plus to mention it's just plain mean! Imagine being that small and hungry/cold/tired/sore or even just wanting a cuddle and you're just left in a room to cry to yourself...

Agreed, you'd hardly do that to an adult, but somehow folks think it's ok to do it to a baby who has no concept what the heck's going on.

wmpdd3

Oh YVE, my heart really goes out to you. I'm a first time mum too and my little one slept like you little guy before this episode. She only had to hear me making the bottle and she'd be nearly back asleep. She's 14 months now but she only get teeth at 10 months too. And I'm pregnant too!!

She would wake up screaming and then after I gave her the bottle, IF, she drank some of it she would scream until she puked, could only be 3 minutes later.

The chemist advised nurophen too for the anti inflammatory qualities when I said calpol wasn't working.

Even when I brought her down stairs and watched telly, she wasnt herself, she was clearly in pain or pi55ed off!

I usually just brought her down stairs rather than bed as she'd just wake up other half.

All that time, when I look back at photos I realised her cheeks were massive and her eyes were sunken form lack of sleep etc.

When she was 10 and a half months she got 2 teeth one morning and after that she was much better.

I also got the amber necklace, I found them brilliant though I couldnt really relax knowing it was around her neck in the night.

I think your doing everything as well as you can, listen to what the doctor says and make sure he is checked for everything.

It will get better, I am sure of it.

cynder

Mine never did the screaming thing, probably cause I picked them up as soon as they got upset, and I took them into my bed too, bad habits yes, good night sleep for all my eldest always had chest infections cutting teeth and my middle guy got ear infections sometimes when cutting teeth.

I've heard the amber necklaces are great, I never heard of them when I had mine

Yve

wmpdd3 wrote: »

Oh YVE, my heart really goes out to you. I'm a first time mum too and my little one slept like you little guy before this episode. She only had to hear me making the bottle and she'd be nearly back asleep. She's 14 months now but she only get teeth at 10 months too. And I'm pregnant too!!

She would wake up screaming and then after I gave her the bottle, IF, she drank some of it she would scream until she puked, could only be 3 minutes later.

The chemist advised nurophen too for the anti inflammatory qualities when I said calpol wasn't working.

Even when I brought her down stairs and watched telly, she wasnt herself, she was clearly in pain or pi55ed off!

I usually just brought her down stairs rather than bed as she'd just wake up other half.

All that time, when I look back at photos I realised her cheeks were massive and her eyes were sunken form lack of sleep etc.

When she was 10 and a half months she got 2 teeth one morning and after that she was much better.

I also got the amber necklace, I found them brilliant though I couldnt really relax knowing it was around her neck in the night.

I think your doing everything as well as you can, listen to what the doctor says and make sure he is checked for everything.

It will get better, I am sure of it.

Thank you so much for your post..

So there is light at the end of this tunnel... Eunan is 9 months and I am 6 months pregnant and I want all this over and done with well before our next one arrives.

Eunan, too is the odd time brought downstairs and he cries and sobs and is tetchy even when we put on baby youtube vids which he loves and all sorts. nothing seems to help him. The three of us are going around puffy eyed and his little eyelids are all swollen from tiredness..

yea with regards the necklace thing - have read up on it proper since earlier suggestion and it says not suitable for babies under 1 year in their sleep... my lad is a typical boy and pulls at everything - i dont know if i would be able to relax knowing he had it on...

I am so glad I put this thread up because I honestly feel more confident now in my explanations to doc plus I can suggest the acid reflux thing which was kindly pointed out earlier...

Himself has been in bed now since around 7.30 and he will inevitably be awake before eleven and he will work himself into an awful way...


roll on gp and if acid reflux is the problem fingers crossed for a sleep filled night tomorrow night.. and if it it really is his teeth only then bloody hell the nurofen is just doing nothing for him

Yve

Ayla wrote: »

Agreed, you'd hardly do that to an adult, but somehow folks think it's ok to do it to a baby who has no concept what the heck's going on.

i know a couple who are both working who leave their little fella alone for the night... like proper... they sleep one end of house and he sleeps other and they dont turn on a monitor...

I think its awful

They think its awful to be tired going to work

he prob sobs his little heart out nightly and there is no one there to go to him......

Ayla

Yve wrote: »

roll on gp and if acid reflux is the problem fingers crossed for a sleep filled night tomorrow night.. and if it it really is his teeth only then bloody hell the nurofen is just doing nothing for him

Make sure you tell GP that nurofen's not doing anything. Also, it could be ear infections like someone suggested, or respiratory stuff that's all related to the teething. Teething is a beast of a time - it causes *so* many other problems that you never would have guessed.

Good luck w/ GP & a suggestion - don't let him/her fob you off & say just deal with it. Make sure your man gets a good look over.

Yve

friendlylady wrote: »

Yve my heart goes out to you, you must be at your wits end. Your doctor I guarantee will not refer you back to your PHN. It sounds very like reflux to me, have you tried infasol drops (name might be slightly wrong, it's been a few years). Maybe try sleeping him in his buggy beside your bed tonight so that his top half is slightly raised, it can help with reflux (if this is the case and I'm not a medical professional by any means) but anyway good luck with GP tomorrow and let us know how you get on.:)

Thanks for this info. I am going to discuss this DEFINITE with the doc tomorrow... have not tried infasol? and never knew about the acid reflux thing. is it infacol ? the stuff for colicy babies? am googling infasol here but not much happening

Yve

Ayla wrote: »

Make sure you tell GP that nurofen's not doing anything. Also, it could be ear infections like someone suggested, or respiratory stuff that's all related to the teething. Teething is a beast of a time - it causes *so* many other problems that you never would have guessed.

Good luck w/ GP & a suggestion - don't let him/her fob you off & say just deal with it. Make sure your man gets a good look over.

If it is the case that it could he an ear/chest infection (which I am kinda hoping it is tbh so we can nip this thing) would it not be playing up on him in the day also or do the symptoms generally only manifest late at night when lying down ?

Ayla

Try looking for Infacol - I think that's what FriendlyLady was referring to

Also, you're right - if it was an infection it would rear up during the day too. But if it's an irritation it could be irritated (for lack of a better term) when he's laying down

Yve

Ayla wrote: »

Try looking for Infacol - I think that's what FriendlyLady was referring to

Also, you're right - if it was an infection it would rear up during the day too. But if it's an irritation it could be irritated (for lack of a better term) when he's laying down

Ah yes Infacol, we used to give that to him when he was a wee tiny baba

Thanks for all your advice

lynski

i have an almost 10 mth old too and he is now a bit crazy at night - currently sitting beside me hopping around and making all his new sounds.
he is just nuts also for the lst few weeks, impossible to put down in the evenings. ( he is gone since i started this post). there is a developmental thing around this time also that they are just more active and more aware.
with my daughter i used to end up strapping her into the pushchair to get her to go back to sleep around this time. i'd jsut get her down then the older son would start and i was working fulltime.
if you think he is teething, try the necklace. i have used one for all 3 from 3 months. they fit inside their clothes and they mostly do not notice them. they are strong enough that i have used the same on for all three and it is still intact.
poor you, i have been that soldier. Try the gentle birth hypnobirthing cds to get good quality rest for yourself and sleep when he sleeps. F the house work.

btw, i have to be honest and say my older son did not sleep through the night regularly until he was 4.

Yve

lynski wrote: »

btw, i have to be honest and say my older son did not sleep through the night regularly until he was 4.

aw man - feel like crying reading that bit ha ha

i have such awe and respect for anyone who works full time job and faces all of this at night. i lost my job last year and i honestly dunno if i could manage it at present. but then i suppose you just have to get on with it...

f the house work - loving the attitude

Yve

HE IS AWAKE ................

January

Don't stress... cuddle him and love him, reassure him and try and sit with him until he goes back to sleep. If he susses you're stressed, he'll be stressed too.

As I said, my three year old doesn't sleep through, she used to scream no matter where she was when she was your little guys age. Soother if he has one and a lot of love and reassurance. I know it's hard for you all but it will start to get better.

lynski

seriously agree. cuddle cuddle and more cuddle.
there is only one thing they want and that is your arms.
i have gone from total routine, in own room at 12 wks, no talking no eye contact at night, etc etc to a feed on demand, cuddle on cue, co-sleeping(ish) no routine. and the third is the calmest baby on the planet

MaxCharlie

Would he be constipated which would cause pain. Is the crying sharp and sounds like pain or is is a cry for company? if you think teeth what about letting him suck on frozen water stick lolly to help cool the area. Maybe dozol about half hour before bedtime to help him sleep

Bagheera

Sounds like you're going through a really tough time. I had a week of it recently with my 9 month old, then he got his first tooth and settled again. By the way I tried the Amber necklace and wrapped it around his ankle at night so I wouldn't worry about him choking. I gave up on it though as it didn't seem to make any difference with my son; in fact he seemed crankier when wearing it!

I hope the doctor is able to give you some help tomorrow, but the main thing to remember is that this will pass and will hopefully be a distant memory in a couple of weeks. Hard to tell yourself that at 3am though!

January

MaxCharlie wrote: »

Would he be constipated which would cause pain. Is the crying sharp and sounds like pain or is is a cry for company? if you think teeth what about letting him suck on frozen water stick lolly to help cool the area. Maybe dozol about half hour before bedtime to help him sleep

Dozol is not recommended for the under 2's.

angelfire9

lynski wrote: »

i have an almost 10 mth old too and he is now a bit crazy at night - currently sitting beside me hopping around and making all his new sounds.
he is just nuts also for the lst few weeks, impossible to put down in the evenings. ( he is gone since i started this post). there is a developmental thing around this time also that they are just more active and more aware.
with my daughter i used to end up strapping her into the pushchair to get her to go back to sleep around this time. i'd jsut get her down then the older son would start and i was working fulltime.
if you think he is teething, try the necklace. i have used one for all 3 from 3 months. they fit inside their clothes and they mostly do not notice them. they are strong enough that i have used the same on for all three and it is still intact.
poor you, i have been that soldier. Try the gentle birth hypnobirthing cds to get good quality rest for yourself and sleep when he sleeps. F the house work.

btw, i have to be honest and say my older son did not sleep through the night regularly until he was 4.

Aisling will be 1 on December 20th and for the last few weeks she's been waking around 2am for 3/4 hours of playtime
She's not hungry, she's not in pain (and by the way I have an amber necklace and it has made no difference when she is teething the only thing i'd swear by is the Dentinox gel (can be reapplied every 20 minutes) she's not cold I have NO IDEA why she keeps waking but trashing the house at 3am has become a past time!!
I've convinced myself she'll grow out of it :rolleyes: in the meantime we are taking turns at night with her

Back on topic slightly.... Yes I know the feeling of selling the baby
Ash had tonsillitis back in October, the poor pet was on antibiotics and had a really bad time of it day & night I remember waking the hubby one morning at 6.30 telling him to "Take her or I'll kill her or myself or the whole household" I felt so bad because I knew she was sick but after 8 hours of walking the floors with her I needed the break!
It is SOOOO frustrating when they are in pain and there is so little you can do, my heart goes out to you OP
At least as your little one gets bigger & stronger things should get easier

Just keep telling yourself "This too will pass"

Good luck & chin up!

Yve

MaxCharlie wrote: »

Would he be constipated which would cause pain. Is the crying sharp and sounds like pain or is is a cry for company? if you think teeth what about letting him suck on frozen water stick lolly to help cool the area. Maybe dozol about half hour before bedtime to help him sleep

hey there:)
Nope little man definite not constipated. 2- 3 poos daily.

it's not company unfortunately because he screams even when we have nhim in the bed for cuddles.

Yve

and......................................... none the wiser tbh.

No chest / ear infection.

highly unlikely to be acid reflux as if this was the case he would be pukey after food and bottles in general but I asked for gaviscon junior to try just in case.

we discussed everything - he looked in his mouth and all he can really put it down to is teething with possible earache when waking...

if the screaming persists over next week I have to go back to him.

He reckons Eunan is too young to have little nightmares and really could be a very bad spell of teething.. as he said some babies dont have hard time and others do. so that was that ladies

I also turned a shade of green when in the waiting room - got talking to a guy who had an 8 month old with him who had three teeth.... jealous.ie

January

Yve wrote: »

and......................................... none the wiser tbh.

No chest / ear infection.

highly unlikely to be acid reflux as if this was the case he would be pukey after food and bottles in general but I asked for gaviscon junior to try just in case.

we discussed everything - he looked in his mouth and all he can really put it down to is teething with possible earache when waking...

if the screaming persists over next week I have to go back to him.

He reckons Eunan is too young to have little nightmares and really could be a very bad spell of teething.. as he said some babies dont have hard time and others do. so that was that ladies

I also turned a shade of green when in the waiting room - got talking to a guy who had an 8 month old with him who had three teeth.... jealous.ie

My older two didn't get their first tooth until the week before their first birthdays.

Lisha

Hi Yve,

Boy Oh Boy could I have written your post....

One thing I found was that by cutting out citrus fruits and homemade stewed apple, it helped mine sleep better at night.
Mine always woke roaring for no 'real' reason. DHs family all have funny tummys and reckon that they are just a bit sensitive for a while.
As they got older it seemed to get better. When i was pregnany with second first used to be up all night, aged 2, I can remember pulling over as I was fallingg asleep while driving. Scary stuff.
Might be worth giving bland solids for a while just in case? Its just a thouht might not be relevant to you at all

Best of luck and believe me you will get through it.