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Tevez willing to sacrifice "mountain of money" to join Milan

  • 06-12-2011 9:24pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭


    From Football-Italia.net
    Adriano Galliani confirmed “Milan have an agreement with Carlos Tevez and we’ve sent a proposal to Manchester City. He wants to join us.”

    There were reports the days of negotiations had paid off and the Rossoneri Vice-President outlined the situation.

    “Between yesterday and today I laid a few bricks to reinforce an already formidable squad,” he told Milan Channel.

    “I’ve been in my office with Tevez’s agent and the situation is clear. Milan have an agreement with the player and just now we sent a proposal to Manchester City: a free loan with right to buy at certain conditions.

    “Why should City accept that? He is not playing, he’s a great player and if he does well with us then we’ll buy him.

    The player is giving up a mountain of money. He had enormous bonuses with City for the Premiership and Champions League.

    “I spoke to Carlitos and he wants to join us. Half the agreement is complete, now we await City’s response.

    “If Tevez arrives, it’d be a new champion for all of Italian football to enjoy. We are close, the player was fantastic for the economic sacrifices he made and his great desire to come to Milan.

    “I hope City say yes, as I managed to beat away some threats from Italy and Europe, but I cannot tell you who... We are in Pole Position.”



    Maybe it's not all about the money after all.

    There is no way he would make even half his City wages at Milan.

    I look forward to seeing Carlitos in a Milan Shirt :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    What a guy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Please retire, Carlos. Or die.

    Just somehow go away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Sounds like he is giving up bonuses that he may get should City win either trophy. Which is not exactly the same as actually giving up mountains of money. I am sure City will be still be a paying a sizeable portion of his wages anyway if he goes to Milan, so the amount he is giving up may not be that large at all.

    Also since they specify "free loan", I am sure they are using all available funds for his wages. A bit like how a player on a free transfer will get higher wages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Isn't Carlos owned by some confederation of evil geniuses that all have a cut and they give Tevez a few quid and keep the rest ?

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭BrianJD


    Twat.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    He doesn't have a choice but to take a pay cut, no one else would even have him let alone offer him anything like the money City's paying him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Also Galliani is hardly going to come out and say anything else. So his words need to be taken with a pinch of salt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Sounds like he is giving up bonuses that he may get should City win either trophy. Which is not exactly the same as actually giving up mountains of money. I am sure City will be still be a paying a sizeable portion of his wages anyway if he goes to Milan, so the amount he is giving up may not be that large at all.

    Also since they specify "free loan", I am sure they are using all available funds for his wages. A bit like how a player on a free transfer will get higher wages.



    No, it will be the same as Ibrahomovic's loan, Milan paid him some of his wages and then Barca paid the rest. When he joined Milan permanently he took a massive reduction.

    Milan won't be paying him silly wages, they never have and they never will pay stupid money to anyone. Ibrahimovic and Kaka are the two highest paid in the history of the club and their contracts are a lot smaller than Tevez's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Seaneh wrote: »
    No, it will be the same as Ibrahomovic's loan, Milan paid him some of his wages and then Barca paid the rest. When he joined Milan permanently he took a massive reduction.

    Milan won't be paying him silly wages, they never have and they never will pay stupid money to anyone. Ibrahimovic and Kaka are the two highest paid in the history of the club and their contracts are a lot smaller than Tevez's.

    He hasn't actually joined Milan on a permanent deal and I am specifically talking about the proposed loan. So my post still stands. He will get a very good wage during the loan and City will be paying a large amount of the fee. They may even pay a portion of his wages after he has left. It is hardly inconceivable that he would move somewhere else at the end of the loan. Regardless of whatever quote you throw at me now. Neither his agent nor Milan will say anything different at the minute.

    Also, Milan have never paid stupid money? Call me John McEnroe because you cannot be serious. I'm sure the Berlusconi funded super team (and Lentini) in the late 80s and early 90s all moved there for the fashion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Big who care's tbh.

    Sooner he is gone from the Premiership the better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    I'm sure he won't starve.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Tevez and Cassano battling for a place in the starting 11?

    I can't wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Looking at Milan's current squad, they've done fantastically well at signing quality players, who have cost others huge money, for next to nothing. Aqua, Zlatan, Robinho and potentially Tevez, the four of whom cost their previous clubs about £160m could end up costing them about £40m + what ever they pay for Tevez. And all this while paying less wages. How do they pull it off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    The name, the history, the fact that certain players have few other options at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Most of them were signed for highly inflated price tags anyways and would have been getting silly wages that the majority of other top clubs would have never fathomed paying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Lukker- wrote: »
    I'm sure he won't starve.

    Exactly. It's easy enough make 'economic sacrifices' when you're a multi-millionaire already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Is he going to Milan to lace up this mans boots on a Saturday night?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭TerryTibbs!


    Headline here is actually...
    CLUB STUPID ENOUGH TO TAKE ON TEVEZ FOUND
    Northern Irish Club close second after loan bid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    Seaneh wrote: »
    From Football-Italia.net





    Maybe it's not all about the money after all.

    There is no way he would make even half his City wages at Milan.

    I look forward to seeing Carlitos in a Milan Shirt :)

    Lets say they offered him 100k a week. That is still half his wages gone. Sore for any man.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Le King wrote: »
    Is he going to Milan to lace up this mans boots on a Saturday night?

    inzaghi__18316331__MBQF-1288859399,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg
    He always celebrates that way, whether a screamer from 25 yards to win the game in the last minute or a tap in to put Milan 7-0 up. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,022 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    Lets say they offered him 100k a week. That is still half his wages gone. Sore for any man.

    God, 100K. How will he manage to put food on the table...

    He should be left ROT in the man city reserves they have the funds to do this and set a tone for anyone that thinks they're above the club and their contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    God, 100K. How will he manage to put food on the table...

    He should be left ROT in the man city reserves they have the funds to do this and set a tone for anyone that thinks they're above the club and their contract.

    That isn't the point. It is still his pay cut in half for the same job. How would you feel about that?
    And that is one expensive lesson for him, and a tone for the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Milan to Buenos Aires: 6960 miles.
    Manchester to Buenos Aires: 6960 miles.

    Clearly, doing this to be closer to his family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Some of the hatred directed towards Tevez on here is pathetic.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    stovelid wrote: »
    Please retire, Carlos. Or die.
    Lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭clubberlang12


    Tevez is financially secure for the rest of his life even if he never kicked a football again. I have to laugh at image that he is some kind of football saint for taking a wage drop. Lets not forget him handing in a transfer request just a couple of months after negotiating a "larger" contract at City. A summer of constant public indication of how he wanted to leave the club, followed by a refusal to warm up when asked and returning home to Argentina when not given permission by the club.
    He is supposedly on £250k a week if not more. Even if he took a drop of £100k he would still be on a astronomical wage. If you think he will play for £100k or less, you are only kidding yourself. Fact of the matter is that he is the typical image of a modern footballer, who is grossly over-paid, is badly advised and lives in a bubble where only his concern is considered.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Tevez has been trolling football for nearly ten years now and still lining his pockets with gold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,455 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Tevez has been trolling football for nearly ten years now and still lining his pockets with gold.
    Tevez has been one of the best players in the world for a few years. He is great to watch playing and is refreshing on the field in that he is not a diver or always in the referees face after he gets fouled. Clearly he wasn't happy for a long while at City and like is the norm in football they either throw money at you, thats what happened in this case, or ship you out. Tevez gave everything he had in the locker in every game for City even though he wanted to go but when he finally decided to take a stance and not play once he is getting all this flak from people and is painted as the villain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Jesus, the term 'economic sacrifices' actually mildly offends me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭clubberlang12


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Tevez has been one of the best players in the world for a few years. He is great to watch playing and is refreshing on the field in that he is not a diver or always in the referees face after he gets fouled. Clearly he wasn't happy for a long while at City and like is the norm in football they either throw money at you, thats what happened in this case, or ship you out. Tevez gave everything he had in the locker in every game for City even though he wanted to go but when he finally decided to take a stance and not play once he is getting all this flak from people and is painted as the villain.

    He is paid to play football. Most of us work in work places where going in each day is a chore but we get on with it but that is what we are paid to do. If i refuse to work or don't come back from holidays on the day i should, i get the sack. Simple. City can't do this because if they terminate his contract he will just sign for another club for free after City investing wages and a fee in him.
    And lets not forget, it's not just since the "refusal to warm up" saga that Tevez has acted like this. He publicly stated all summer that he wouldn't play for City again. That's very befitting of the honest player you describe. He also handed in a transfer request before last xmas stating he wanted to be closer to his family in Argentina despite at the same time trying to court most of the big clubs in mainland Europe. Why would he sign a bumper contract just months before handing in a transfer request? Again, very befitting of the honest player you describe.
    No one can argue that when he does decide to play he is a very fine footballer indeed. That is not being questioned here. The fact is that the original post and quotation from AC Milan representatives is trying to paint him as some kind of martyr for taking a pay-cut per week that most people would not earn in 7-8 years.
    A bit of perspective is needed on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,455 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He is paid to play football. Most of us work in work places where going in each day is a chore but we get on with it but that is what we are paid to do. If i refuse to work or don't come back from holidays on the day i should, i get the sack. Simple. City can't do this because if they terminate his contract he will just sign for another club for free after City investing wages and a fee in him.
    And lets not forget, it's not just since the "refusal to warm up" saga that Tevez has acted like this. He publicly stated all summer that he wouldn't play for City again. That's very befitting of the honest player you describe. He also handed in a transfer request before last xmas stating he wanted to be closer to his family in Argentina despite at the same time trying to court most of the big clubs in mainland Europe. Why would he sign a bumper contract just months before handing in a transfer request? Again, very befitting of the honest player you describe.
    No one can argue that when he does decide to play he is a very fine footballer indeed. That is not being questioned here. The fact is that the original post and quotation from AC Milan representatives is trying to paint him as some kind of martyr for taking a pay-cut per week that most people would not earn in 7-8 years.
    A bit of perspective is needed on this thread.
    Yeah the perspective thats needed here is that City threw money at the problem they had with him but it only worked for a very short while..

    Trying to compare an ordinary Joe Soap with him is ridiculous. He is one of the very best in his field and because of that is wanted by almost every company if you want to compare it to a different profession. Unlike the majority though, he values his happiness in the workplace above the money.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Would love to see him at LFC for 6 months. Hes a ridiculously talented striker. Attitude leaves alot to be desired tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭clubberlang12


    I think your idea of perspective and my idea of perspective here are completely polar so i'm afraid we'll agree to disagree on this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    Yakult wrote: »
    Would love to see him at LFC for 6 months. Hes a ridiculously talented striker. Attitude leaves alot to be desired tho.

    Sounds like he'd make a perfect partner for Suarez then :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I look forward to seeing Carlitos in a Milan Shirt :)

    You might just have spoken a little too soon.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16134124.stm
    Manchester City have rejected an offer from AC Milan to take striker Carlos Tevez on loan with a commitment to signing him for 23m euros next summer.

    Italian champions Milan sent the proposal to City on 6 December but the Premier League club told BBC Sport on Sunday that it had been turned down.

    City are only willing to sell the 27-year-old in a permanent deal.

    Tevez and City insist reports that Paris Saint-Germain have agreed a fee for the player are incorrect.

    PSG made an informal approach to City in October, offering a loan deal, but both parties say this has not been followed up.

    A source close to the Tevez camp told BBC Sport: "There has been absolutely no contact with PSG.

    "Carlos has had no talks and is unaware of any potential deal."

    It is understood that Milan remain favourites to sign the Argentina international but the transfer is still some way off.

    "Manchester City want us to buy Tevez definitively," Milan chief executive Adriano Galliani told Italian media.

    "We have suggested that we sign the player on loan, with an option to purchase. We're not changing our position.

    "It's going to be a long negotiation. Anything can happen in the transfer market."

    Tevez has not played for City since they beat Birmingham on 21 September.

    City boss Roberto Mancini alleged he refused to come off the substitutes' bench in September's Champions League defeat at Bayern Munich, while the player maintained there had been a misunderstanding.

    An internal club investigation concluded that Tevez, who joined City in July 2009, was guilty of five breaches of his contract and he was fined four weeks' wages, reduced to two following intervention from the Professional Footballers' Association.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    He's also being linked with PSG who can certainly afford to buy him. I hope he goes to PSG. I don't watch the French league really and the less i hear of this moron, the better!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    PSG are also owned by the Cousin of the Owner of Man City, looks like family ties might win out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Instead of being able to buy a peninsula.

    He'll only be able to buy an island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭fish fingers


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Instead of being able to buy a peninsula.

    He'll only be able to buy an island.

    They said it was just a name. ;)

    (Simpsons ref.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭DB21


    How will he ever survive on 100k a week? Someone should inform Concern :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    The player is giving up a mountain of money.

    Easily done when he has already made his fortune, he should be permanently given the footballing equivalent of the lockout. A disgrace to the profession he represents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭richierichballs


    Seaneh wrote: »
    PSG are also owned by the Cousin of the Owner of Man City, looks like family ties might win out.

    Really? I didn't know they where related,
    The Qatar family own it, the main guy is worth like 7.8billion or something...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    How has only 1 other person picked up on the fact that he has said all along that he wants to move from City to be closer to his family. Now i wasnt great at geography as a young lad but im sure Milan is further from Argentina than Manchester.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭richierichballs


    Melion wrote: »
    How has only 1 other person picked up on the fact that he has said all along that he wants to move from City to be closer to his family. Now i wasnt great at geography as a young lad but im sure Milan is further from Argentina than Manchester.

    I remember reading that his main reason for wanting to move to Spain or Italy, was because they did direct flights to Argentina??

    And mainly because it's warmer his family wouldn't mind living there.
    You'd think for 250k a week, they could compromise a little bit of cold weather.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Melion wrote: »
    How has only 1 other person picked up on the fact that he has said all along that he wants to move from City to be closer to his family. Now i wasnt great at geography as a young lad but im sure Milan is further from Argentina than Manchester.



    For a long time he trotted out that line of wanting to move back to South America to be with his family.

    Then sometime the summer and the not warming up incident, he came out with a claim that the family situation was sorted and they were happy in Manchester.

    His story as to why he and/or his family are unhappy changes on a regular basis though. Pretty sure he came out and made some comment whilst at United about his family back home as well, yet he still went to City.

    Fabulous player, but one I cannot see staying at any club for a decent length of time without kicking up a stink.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Id take him at Anfield from January til the end of the season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Melion wrote: »
    Id take him at Anfield from January til the end of the season



    So would I. Five months would be just right. Short enough for him to want to break his ass with performances to ensure his move abroad, and long enough for those performances to have a major effect on where the club finishes this year.

    City would never go for it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Daemonic


    Kess73 wrote: »
    So would I. Five months would be just right. Short enough for him to want to break his ass with performances to ensure his move abroad, and long enough for those performances to have a major effect on where the club finishes this year.

    City would never go for it though.
    Maybe they would. Realistically Liverpool are no threat to City this season. He couldn't play against Man City when we play them again, but could help in taking valuable points off other teams involved in the title race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Daemonic wrote: »
    Maybe they would. Realistically Liverpool are no threat to City this season. He couldn't play against Man City when we play them again, but could help in taking valuable points off other teams involved in the title race.



    City would have to pay a pretty big chunk of his wages as well if Liverpool got him on loan. Would be stunned if they considered something like that tbh, but over the moon if it came about.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭richierichballs


    Melion wrote: »
    Id take him at Anfield from January til the end of the season

    Let's face it, he would never want to go there. :rolleyes:


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