A question for all haters of The Script

karaokeman

There seems to be a lot of hatred going around for The Script.

Think its mainly because they are soooo overplayed on mainstream radio and thus most of their fans are just casual music fans.

I don't mind The Script, they are one of the best Irish bands in recent years but like anyone else I would enjoy it if they experimented more.

So just wondering, would anyone here have a higher opinion of The Script if their songs weren't all just soppy, mushy love songs because that seems to be the main thing affecting their credibility.

What would you all think if they released a song where the lyrics were totally unrelated to heartbreak etc.?

I would like them to write more singalong, eccentric tunes, maybe along the lines of Green Day's "Holiday" or Alice Cooper's "School's Out", maybe something similar to AC/DC's "Highway To Hell".

Please do not abuse other posters. Any personal attacks or insults will result in appropriate infractions/bans.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

They're just shít really.

SilverScreen

For a start pretty much all of their fans are casual music fans.

Not quite sure what your definition of experimentation is. But if you would enjoy them more if they experimented more then why not just listen to other bands that do experiment a bit? The Script are puppets for a major label to sell music so they will never be given the chance to experiment, that's if they wanted to.

I like love songs and songs about heartbreak, but Jesus Christ there's tons of bands that can do it better and far more convincingly than The Script.

lordgoat

Boy band. Awful non-music.

Sinfonia

karaokeman wrote: »

There seems to be a lot of hatred going around for The Script.

Think its mainly because they are soooo overplayed on mainstream radio and thus most of their fans are just casual music fans.

I don't mind The Script, they are one of the best Irish bands in recent years but like anyone else I would enjoy it if they experimented more.

So just wondering, would anyone here have a higher opinion of The Script if their songs weren't all just soppy, mushy love songs because that seems to be the main thing affecting their credibility.

What would you all think if they released a song where the lyrics were totally unrelated to heartbreak etc.?

I would like them to write more singalong, eccentric tunes, maybe along the lines of Green Day's "Holiday" or Alice Cooper's "School's Out", maybe something similar to AC/DC's "Highway To Hell".

1) Get any or preferably all of the following albums:
- Roman Candle
- Elliott Smith
- Either/Or
- XO
- Figure 8
- From a Basement on the Hill
- New Moon
2) Listen on repeat.
3) Forget that you ever listened to such horrendous drivel as The Script.
4) Begin life anew.

lordgoat

Sinfonia wrote: »

1) Get any or preferably all of the following albums:
- Roman Candle
- Elliott Smith
- Either/Or
- XO
- Figure 8
- From a Basement on the Hill
- New Moon
2) Listen on repeat.
3) Forget that you ever listened to such horrendous drivel as The Script.
4) Begin life anew.

Seriously, music like that would be lost on him, far far above what they're able for.

JerryHandbag

Its hard to see how a band as safe as The Script could ever experiment in any way whatsoever.

Rick Deckard

I thought they only had one song?

smck99

I do not condone use of The Script but, you really have to admire their music from a Producer's/ Songwriter's standpoint. They write catchy tunes that you hate getting stuck in your head!
Also, they appeal to muppets...

arodabomb

Rick Deckard wrote: »

I thought they only had one song?

Exactly. In the space on an hour on the radio, you'll hear what the DJ will describe as 5 or 6 different script songs. He's lying. They only have one song.

Zaph

The hatred for The Script has nothing to do with them being played all the time on the radio, and all to do with how unrelentingly crap they are. Changing the style of their lyrics to something less mushy won't make them any more credible. They'll still be The Script and and will sound like The Script except with different lyrics, and therefore they will continue to be crap.

karaokeman

Sinfonia wrote: »

1) Get any or preferably all of the following albums:
- Roman Candle
- Elliott Smith
- Either/Or
- XO
- Figure 8
- From a Basement on the Hill
- New Moon
2) Listen on repeat.
3) Forget that you ever listened to such horrendous drivel as The Script.
4) Begin life anew.

All those albums you listed are from Elliot Smith. Actually like where you're going with this, seen as how he was such a talented singer-songwriter. Some of his stuff is a bit more folkey than what The Script would usually do, but that could be interesting as well.

Zero1986 wrote: »

For a start pretty much all of their fans are casual music fans.

Not quite sure what your definition of experimentation is. But if you would enjoy them more if they experimented more then why not just listen to other bands that do experiment a bit? The Script are puppets for a major label to sell music so they will never be given the chance to experiment, that's if they wanted to.

I like love songs and songs about heartbreak, but Jesus Christ there's tons of bands that can do it better and far more convincingly than The Script.

I do listen to experimental bands. I've said this many, many times I am open to all types of music and enjoy a little bit of everything barr rap. The Script just happens to be one of those bands I am a casual fan of but would appreciate more if their music was less mainstream-orientated.

And you're right plenty of bands can do love songs more convincingly than The Script, I am yet to hear a "Fix You" from these guys.

fitz0

Does everyone here look down on people who listen to bands they don't? It sure seems that way.

The Script are just a bit bland, they bore me. In the vein of Oasis, they have fairly terrible lyrics accompanied by a catchy melody. That's not enough to keep me interested. Nothing against anyone else who listens to them, but thats my opinion.

MickShamrock

fitz0 wrote: »

Does everyone here look down on people who listen to bands they don't? It sure seems that way.

The Script are just a bit bland, they bore me. In the vein of Oasis, they have fairly terrible lyrics accompanied by a catchy melody.

You can't compare a band like Oasis to The Script. :pac:

Bandana boy

MickShamrock wrote: »

You can't compare a band like Oasis to The Script. :pac:

True
Oasis are nowhere near as good as the script*



*I really dont rate the script but they are still > Oasis

Junco Partner

I don't dislike them, I quite like them actually when it comes down to it. I don't dislike any music really except bieber and the rest of the Disney corporate brigade but then again I dislike what the music industry has done to music in their cases rather than the acts themselves. The Script play their own instruments and write decent catchy loved up up tunes, The Beatles did the same Early on(controversial:pac: who knows they're early in their career maybe we'll get a Sgt. Pepper out of them yet.) I'm starting to think if the Script did experiment they'd be abused for it by the very people calling them boring now on Boards. some bands end up in the list of bands it's cool to hate and no matter how good they are they'll never escape.

It's only when I hear "For the first time" for the 30th time that hour on the radio at work that i start to dislike it. maybe music comes down to liking something until you become oversatuarated by it

All my favourite music is hardly played on the radio as its old so you only hear it on the classic rock shows. Maybe if it was played as constantly as Gaga as the other big acts of today I'd be less inclined to like it.

Jumpy

Jesus. The music snobbery in this thread is mind blowing.

The Script have some good songs, so do the Doors. I enjoy both equally. The same as I sometimes enjoy Soundgarden or Tool, yet like a few songs from JoJo.

You dont enjoy their music? Who gives a ****? Someone somewhere does or they wouldnt be around.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Jumpy wrote: »

Who gives a ****? Someone somewhere does or they wouldnt be around.

people once said the same thing about the nazis

Jumpy

Oh no you di-hent just Godwin me sista. Nah uh.

Junco Partner

^^^
This thread has been Godwin's law'd already!

fitz0

MickShamrock wrote: »

You can't compare a band like Oasis to The Script. :pac:

Shockingly I just did. And the world didn't end. Oasis may be a better (if not greatly so) band but it's still my opinion that they have simplistic, often poor lyrics accompanied by very catchy melodies and that's where their appeal comes from. But this isn't a thread about Oasis, it was the most apt comparison that came to mind.

Junco Partner

Poor lyrics and catchy melodies is this thread about early Beatles or the script.

endacl

arodabomb wrote: »

Rick Deckard wrote: »

I thought they only had one song?

Exactly. In the space on an hour on the radio, you'll hear what the DJ will describe as 5 or 6 different script songs. He's lying. They only have one song.

Just to clarify, they don't have one song. Their producer does. Hope this helps!
If fairness though, they do deliver exactly as advertised. Following the script....

SilverScreen

karaokeman wrote: »

I do listen to experimental bands. I've said this many, many times I am open to all types of music and enjoy a little bit of everything barr rap. The Script just happens to be one of those bands I am a casual fan of but would appreciate more if their music was less mainstream-orientated.

And you're right plenty of bands can do love songs more convincingly than The Script, I am yet to hear a "Fix You" from these guys.

What experimental artists in particular do you listen to?

I wouldn't even say Coldplay can do love songs convincingly. Try The Field Mice or even The Cure.

karaokeman

Zero1986 wrote: »

What experimental artists in particular do you listen to?

RHCP
Meat Loaf
Coldplay
The Killers
U2
The Beatles (some of their later stuff, not too big on the early material)
Metallica
James Blunt
Jimmy MacCarthy
Noel Gallagher
Robbie Williams
Guns 'n' Roses
Foreigner
REO Speedwagon

Those are the few that come to mind but then there's other bands I like but I would prefer if they were more experimental. Thats where The Script, The Fray, Kings of Leon and so fort come in.

Zero1986 wrote: »

I wouldn't even say Coldplay can do love songs convincingly. Try The Field Mice or even The Cure.

Both are not as good as Coldplay. Sorry but I am a diehard Coldplay fan, themselves U2 and Robbie are up there as my three favourite music acts.

MickShamrock

fitz0 wrote: »

Shockingly I just did. And the world didn't end. Oasis may be a better (if not greatly so) band but it's still my opinion that they have simplistic, often poor lyrics accompanied by very catchy melodies and that's where their appeal comes from. But this isn't a thread about Oasis, it was the most apt comparison that came to mind.

While this may be true, Oasis were still one of the biggest band's of the nineties whether you liked them or not. I personally didn't, but I can see they had lasting appeal whereas no one will remember who The Script were this time next year. Anyone remember an other over-hyped, over here band called The Thrills? Thought not.

MickShamrock

karaokeman wrote: »

RHCP
Coldplay
The Killers
James Blunt
Noel Gallagher
Robbie Williams

You need to look up the definition of experimental, when it comes to artists, cause you obviously have it confused with something else.

neil_18_

I love them. I don't see the problem with them at all? Their songs are catchy, doesn't mean they're "non music". They don't claim to be anything else.

Their last album got to number 3 in America, fair play to them i say.

Only 2 things annoy me about them: - They are way too overplayed on radio (not their fault). - The singer seems to have developed an American accent, just annoys me thats all!

karaokeman

MickShamrock wrote: »

You need to look up the definition of experimental, when it comes to artists, cause you obviously have it confused with something else.

Have you heard full albums in chronology by the artists I listed?

If your judging them as non-experimental by just what gets played on the radio you won't be able to make a very informed judgement.

MickShamrock wrote: »

While this may be true, Oasis were still one of the biggest band's of the nineties whether you liked them or not. I personally didn't, but I can see they had lasting appeal whereas no one will remember who The Script were this time next year. Anyone remember an other over-hyped, over here band called The Thrills? Thought not.

Did The Thrills play to 50,000 people at Landsdowne Road, three months after playing to 42,000 people at three O2 dates and before another large crowd at Oxegen's main stage, I don't think so.

The Thrills are no where near as successful as The Script are and The Script will most certainly be still known this time next year.

hidinginthebush

karaokeman wrote: »

There seems to be a lot of hatred going around for The Script.

Think its mainly because they are soooo overplayed on mainstream radio and thus most of their fans are just casual music fans.

I don't mind The Script, they are one of the best Irish bands in recent years but like anyone else I would enjoy it if they experimented more.

So just wondering, would anyone here have a higher opinion of The Script if their songs weren't all just soppy, mushy love songs because that seems to be the main thing affecting their credibility.

What would you all think if they released a song where the lyrics were totally unrelated to heartbreak etc.?

I would like them to write more singalong, eccentric tunes, maybe along the lines of Green Day's "Holiday" or Alice Cooper's "School's Out", maybe something similar to AC/DC's "Highway To Hell".

Yes people would like them then, because then they wouldn't be shite

Temaz

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MickShamrock

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MickShamrock

karaokeman wrote: »

Have you heard full albums in chronology by the artists I listed?

If your judging them as non-experimental by just what gets played on the radio you won't be able to make a very informed judgement.



Did The Thrills play to 50,000 people at Landsdowne Road, three months after playing to 42,000 people at three O2 dates and before another large crowd at Oxegen's main stage, I don't think so.

The Thrills are no where near as successful as The Script are and The Script will most certainly be still known this time next year.

I never said The Thrills were more successful than The Script. I said that they are/were as over-hyped just cause they are Irish. They are both equally as ****e as one another.

So what if they played to 50,000 people at Landsdowne and 42,000 at the O2?! Rubbish like The Saturdays, Spice Girls and Girls Aloud can do that too. Doesn't make them good. Just shows how many people have a horrible taste in music.

rcaz

This thread is about The Script, not posters. Let's keep it about music please. Any more personal abuse or accusations of trolling will result in infractions/bans as appropriate.

karaokeman

MickShamrock wrote: »

I never said The Thrills were more successful than The Script. I said that they are/were as over-hyped just cause they are Irish. They are both equally as ****e as one another.

So what if they played to 50,000 people at Landsdowne and 42,000 at the O2?! Rubbish like The Saturdays, Spice Girls and Girls Aloud can do that too. Doesn't make them good. Just shows how many people have a horrible taste in music.

The difference with The Saturdays, the Spice Girls and Girls Aloud is that they have had a couple of hits and people still know about them.

I only remember The Thrills by that one song "One Horse Town", if they never released it I don't think I would know them at all. With Girls Aloud, if they never released "Sound of The Underground" it would be likely I'd still have heard "Jump".

I agree musical credibility is not justified by how many tickets a band can sell, all I'm saying is that with The Script's recent success it is very likely their appeal will last a lot longer than just another year.

rcaz

karaokeman wrote: »

RHCP
Meat Loaf
Coldplay
The Killers
U2
The Beatles (some of their later stuff, not too big on the early material)
Metallica
James Blunt
Jimmy MacCarthy
Noel Gallagher
Robbie Williams
Guns 'n' Roses
Foreigner
REO Speedwagon

You should check out;
Alvin Lucier
La Monte Young
Gyorgi Ligeti (Poeme Symphonique for 100 Metronomes)
Steve Reich (Come Out, It's Gonna Rain)
John Cage (his prepared piano stuff)

and maybe some free improv/jazz stuff like Derek Bailey, late John Coltrane (Ascension, Interstellar Space), Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz...

That's experimental music

rcaz

karaokeman wrote: »

I only remember The Thrills by that one song "One Horse Town", if they never released it I don't think I would know them at all. With Girls Aloud, if they never released "Sound of The Underground" it would be likely I'd still have heard "Jump".

If Sound of the Underground wasn't a massive hit, Girls Aloud wouldn't have had the chance to make Jump, they would've been thrown because they weren't a successful business venture. Lucky for them, they were very successful, lots of people made lots of money, and they've been sustaining a career that way for a while.

Batesy

Every single Script song is about his girlfriend dumping him and him going on the p!ss.

He must be one miserable, albeit rich so and so!

karaokeman

El Pr0n wrote: »

You should check out;
Alvin Lucier
La Monte Young
Gyorgi Ligeti (Poeme Symphonique for 100 Metronomes)
Steve Reich (Come Out, It's Gonna Rain)
John Cage (his prepared piano stuff)

and maybe some free improv/jazz stuff like Derek Bailey, late John Coltrane (Ascension, Interstellar Space), Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz...

That's experimental music

Thanks, I will certainly check them out when I have a chance.

I haven't heard a lot of jazz music, more because I haven't had the time than not liking it.

With regards to The Script, I reckon they should try and do some more traditional rock 'n' roll stuff before they delve into something much different from what they do. If they had any material like Guns 'n' Roses, Whitesnake, AC/DC and Bon Jovi that would be a good route to go down.

Maybe The Script shouldn't rule out love songs entirely but write songs that are not all about lust, heartbreak or anything severe, which is what most of their stuff delves into. If they stick to love songs for a while I would be more interested to hear something thats not as depressing, something like "Sweet Child 'o' Mine".

rcaz

karaokeman wrote: »

Thanks, I will certainly check them out when I have a chance.

I haven't heard a lot of jazz music, more because I haven't had the time than not liking it.

With regards to The Script, I reckon they should try and do some more traditional rock 'n' roll stuff before they delve into something much different from what they do. If they had any material like Guns 'n' Roses, Whitesnake, AC/DC and Bon Jovi that would be a good route to go down.

Maybe The Script shouldn't rule out love songs entirely but write songs that are not all about lust, heartbreak or anything severe, which is what most of their stuff delves into. If they stick to love songs for a while I would be more interested to hear something thats not as depressing, something like "Sweet Child 'o' Mine".

So they should be more experimental, and sound more like bands from the 80s? Alright... :pac:

You know what they really should do? Whatever they want. They're a band, they make the music they're into. They should keep doing that, and if we don't like what they do, or think they should do something different, we should just not bother listening to them.

For me, anyway, that means continuing not bothering to listen to them.

SilverScreen

karaokeman wrote: »

RHCP
Meat Loaf
Coldplay
The Killers
U2
The Beatles (some of their later stuff, not too big on the early material)
Metallica
James Blunt
Jimmy MacCarthy
Noel Gallagher
Robbie Williams
Guns 'n' Roses
Foreigner
REO Speedwagon

Oh dear... seriously I just give up.

ItsAWindUp

Songs? Surely you mean their song which the alter ever so slightly and re release under different titles?

Rothko

I don't like them because I think they're boring and generic. Their songs aren't very good either, which obviously doesn't help. There are far worse bands out there though.

lordgoat

James Blunt = experimental.

/gives up.

JerryHandbag

I always thought Lou Reed propping his guitar up against his amp and recording the resultant bone shattering feedback was experimental. I give up too.

Kold

I've nothing against homosexuals, but everyone who enjoys the script is a homosexual.

Just sayin'.

guitarzero

I think The Script would be good if they just changed their sound and band members and changed their name to 'The Suicidal Monkey Joyriders'.

Irish Guitarist

I don't really understand your point. Are you asking if people would like The Script if they sounded like a totally different band?

I would like them to write more singalong, eccentric tunes, maybe along the lines of Green Day's "Holiday" or Alice Cooper's "School's Out", maybe something similar to AC/DC's "Highway To Hell".

On a similar note I'd like Alexandra Burke if she sounded more like Joni Mitchell. I'd be a big Gareth Gates fan if he sounded like Chuck Berry. Jedward would be great too if they sounded like Simon And Garfunkel.

I think if you're listening to a band and wishing they sounded completely different then you should just go and listen to a different band.

karaokeman

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I don't really understand your point. Are you asking if people would like The Script if they sounded like a totally different band?

Yes that is my point.

I would like them more if they were more like AC/DC and Green Day.

That doesn't mean I don't listen to AC/DC and Green Day I still do. Also I never said I was a diehard Script fan, what I'm saying is I do enjoy their music but think they could improve.

Mindkiller

I hate the term 'experimental'. I hate how my autotagging software tags any music it can't comprehend 'experimental' or 'alternative'.

(I know some stuff is genuinely 'experimental', but it's a term that gets ****ed about an awful lot when it shouldn't.)

Da Shins Kelly

This is an extremely hypothetical question. The fact is they are sh*te because they just sing mushy love songs, are boring and never experiment. While it's making them loads of money, I don't think they're going to change, and to be honest, I'm not sure about the level of talent that they have to branch out beyond sh*tty love songs.

In short, no, I don't think I'd like them regardless. I can't imagine a Script experiment setting the world alight.