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  • 01-12-2011 4:55pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭


    The first 'Major' of the snooker season The UK Championship begins this Saturday.
    It also sees snookers second biggest event next to the World Championship relocated back to the Barbican in York and it also sees William Hill as the tournaments new sponsor. Another change in the event sees matches up to the semi finals become a best of eleven, the semi's will revert back to the old format of best of 17 and the final best of 19.
    This has'nt gone down well with most of the players but it's a format which should see most of the 32 players appear on the televised stages.
    The qualifiers have already taken place in November and now the top 16 meet up with the 16 qualifiers A couple of first round matches should serve up some good snooker, Stephen Maguire v Stephen Hendry, Ronnie O'Sullivan v Steve Davis, Judd Trump v Dominic Dale and Mark Selby v Ryan Day are ones i'll have an eye on.
    If first round results go to form we could have two cracking last 16 matches where Higgins will meet Hendry and O'Sullivan will meet Trump.
    Lots to look forward to then and its all live on the BBC with the usual interactive service and with £100,000 awaiting the winner i'm sure it will be a great week of snooker.

    As usual i'll tell you who i'm backing, and after predicting Darren Morgan to win the recent World Seniors prehaps my predictions will start to come good ! But then again.........
    So my tip for the UK is Neil Roberston.

    Enjoy


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Full lineup is here

    I wonder if Selby or Trump can deliver at the championship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Rory McLeod and Mark Davis were unlucky today both losing the final frames to flukes.:eek:

    Steve Davis reckons that with all these new tournaments and all the players getting more match practice that the gap between the top players and the qualifiers will narrow. Certainly the McLeod and Mark Davis showings today would seem to confirm what Steve is on about. This would be a good thing I reckon although the standard of snooker is so good these days it may be more about the lower ranked players improving and the top guys running to stand still just to keep their place.

    It's odd not having a dividing wall between the tables. Somebody is bound to miss a crucial pressure pot becasue of a load of noise coming from the other table at just the wrong moment for them. I thought Higgins looked a but fed up with this towards the end of his match but he towed the line in his interview afterwards.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    All six seeds through today albeit Higgins & Ding were pushed to a decider, standard really good so far. Normally we would see a couple of seeds fall on the first day but it's not just the qualifiers who are chasing the all important ranking points these days, the seeds are now under pressure to win now thanks to the new ranking structure.

    Regarding the dividing wall or lack of it, I'm not too sure about it when it's just a two table set up, it works fine in venues such as Berlin for the German Open and most recently in Antwerp when there are several tables in use.
    I just don't think it works as well in York, I can understand one or two players having a moan about it, not only are the audience shuffling about between frames but during the final frame of the Higgins v McLeod match today the table fitter decided to come out and brush the cloth and prepare it for the next match in full view of the players trying to win a final frame on the other table! Now it only takes a couple of minutes to prepare a table so why could'nt that wait until the other match was completed?
    I was actually surprised that Higgins didn't say anything as he was at the table 30 pts behind at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,416 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    How ring-fenced do you reckon the Sheffield frame structure is Zak?
    Currently 19,25,25,33,35 frames in each round.

    But with the UK Champs now reduced, the World Champs structure is going to seem almost like an anachronism.

    Personally wouldn't be suprised if BarryH is considering reducing it to 19 all the way, 25 in the final, and maybe expanding it to 48 or 64 players. 'Twould be a shame imo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    As much as I like Barry Hearn for what he has done and is continuing to do for snooker I really hope that the format of the Worlds is not changed.
    They have already announced that the last session of the final will start an hour earlier at 7pm and I really hope that's it for the changes.
    For me it's the holy grail of snooker and should be left as is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭mr lee


    Rory McLeod and Mark Davis were unlucky today both losing the final frames to flukes.:eek:

    Steve Davis reckons that with all these new tournaments and all the players getting more match practice that the gap between the top players and the qualifiers will narrow. Certainly the McLeod and Mark Davis showings today would seem to confirm what Steve is on about. This would be a good thing I reckon although the standard of snooker is so good these days it may be more about the lower ranked players improving and the top guys running to stand still just to keep their place.

    It's odd not having a dividing wall between the tables. Somebody is bound to miss a crucial pressure pot becasue of a load of noise coming from the other table at just the wrong moment for them. I thought Higgins looked a but fed up with this towards the end of his match but he towed the line in his interview afterwards.
    i stopped taking any notice of what davis says after this years worlds,he's turned into the bbc's b*tch,sayin whats best best for the bbc's profile,i stopped watching snooker on the bbc as well,after all the higgin's nuthuggin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Yeah leave the worlds alone for now but one thing to quicken up the game for tv in other tournaments is to put a cap on how many snookers one can chase. TV Channels airing live snooker must be doing their nut to see a player playing on when several snookers are required or just to get table practice in after their opponent gets a century break. Its this facet of the game that doesn't lend itself to tv.
    So something like you can only come back to the table if you require up to two snookers.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Dale showing a bit of fight in him against Trump. Could be a long afternoon on that table. Might I also say fair play to Davis who gave Ronnie a good run for his money in the first 3 frames. The game could have swung either way if Ronnie didn't get into his swing.

    Some good games so far.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    Yeah leave the worlds alone for now but one thing to quicken up the game for tv in other tournaments is to put a cap on how many snookers one can chase. TV Channels airing live snooker must be doing their nut to see a player playing on when several snookers are required or just to get table practice in after their opponent gets a century break. Its this facet of the game that doesn't lend itself to tv.
    So something like you can only come back to the table if you require up to two snookers.

    I can see your point but for me watching a player for example like Trump or O'Sullivan needing snookers is almost as good as watching them make a century.
    Watching the way they go about trying to lay a snooker is ideal viewing for all budding snooker players, also watching the other player plotting his escape route can be interesting too.
    My biggest gripe and always has been is slow play, now I'm not asking for a shot clock or anything like that but there are some players on the circuit who are exceptionally slow and even the most ardent snooker fans including myself can find ourselves becoming bored.
    I know the referees have the power to intervene if he suspects a players slow play is a form of gamesmanship but when do we ever see the referee do this?

    So far all the matches probably have gone to form except Fu beating Bingham, interesting also
    to read Mark Allens press comments after his match.
    Some fellow members here I think already know my views on this guy but biting the hand that feeds him I feel is a bit ungrateful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    zack01 wrote: »
    interesting also
    to read Mark Allens press comments after his match.
    Some fellow members here I think already know my views on this guy but biting the hand that feeds him I feel is a bit ungrateful.

    Without knowing any of the previous from Allen re: Hearn I was a bit surprised it would be a quick fire, up and coming 25 year old player like him to stand up for the longer frame matches. You'd be expecting one of the older pros someone like Edbon or Dott to be making this point.

    I think the UK could have been left at the longer format and Sheffield certainly should be left as it is. It would be a major mistake to mess with the World Championship at this stage.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭harpstilidie


    Really annoys me that BBC won't show the snooker in HD as I don't have Eurosport HD. Shouldn't be starting the last session of the World Final at 7 either. Nothing beats some late night snooker :) don't want it to finish at 9 or 10.

    Great game atm between Trump and Ronnie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Ronnie about to get knocked out.

    Stevens putting it up to Ding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 allOtherPlaces


    I will NEVER watch snooker on the BBC again... I had paused it a few times to make tea/ go for a smoke, so when the announcer come on to tell me to hit the red button to watch the rest of it, it was too late for me... I couldn't switch over to Eurosport.... and for what????? The stupid Hairy Bikers or something....

    Eurosport all the way for me from now on.....

    At least I won't have to listen to Dennis Taylor's tired old shtick.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Ronnie threatening to quit yet again after losing today!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/snooker/16059032.stm


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    I will NEVER watch snooker on the BBC again... I had paused it a few times to make tea/ go for a smoke, so when the announcer come on to tell me to hit the red button to watch the rest of it, it was too late for me... I couldn't switch over to Eurosport.... and for what????? The stupid Hairy Bikers or something....

    Eurosport all the way for me from now on.....

    At least I won't have to listen to Dennis Taylor's tired old shtick.....

    You could always give up smoking:). At least you have the red button option. Ditching sky for upc i havent got the red button option so im only lucky Eurosport are airing so much of it live so far. I think this evening is the only time so far in the tournament that they havent started live from the start of the match.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭oneillMan999


    To be honest, i dont mind the changes to the UK this year, i always saw this tournament as just another ranking event anyway.
    The venue looks amazing and the lighting is just right.
    On the Mark Allen comments, i am starting to think he is just saying these things to stand out or make himself out to be a "bad boy" or something, it started with the Bingham comments which i just found bizarre, so i dont really take much heed in what he has to say anymore...just shut up and play Mark.

    Go Trump!


  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭bradolf pittler


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Ronnie threatening to quit yet again after losing today!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/snooker/16059032.stm

    ronnie's been threatening this every year since he was 19 and altho its hard to pity a guy who's the most naturally gifted player ever but treats the game with utter contempt i do have some sympathy for him.he turned 36 yesterday and listening to his interview its obvious that he wants to settle down and get married/start a family.no one should begrudge him that.
    we forget that he's been a pro for 20 years almost.20 years at the very top of any professional sport would take its toll on anyone.i belive ronnie lost his appetite for the game around 7 or 8 years ago and i'm suprised he's lasted this long without actually following tru on his threaths and quit.
    maybe a year away from snooker would do him some good.
    the other side of this of course is his attitude towards the game which has made him a millionaire many times over,made him famous and the player that everyone wants to be.he says he hates travelling yet has no probs in signing a major deal with a chinese watch company and go's there regularly to promote their products,hates the PTC events and says hes blackmailed into playing them,yet is number 1 and i'm sure has no probs in collecting the 30,000 he's won in them already this year.
    god only knows what go's on in his mind and maybe the whole gary speed thing has brought this back to the surface but if he go's i wont shed a tear cos theres enough good players around today to take his place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    ronnie's been threatening this every year since he was 19 and altho its hard to pity a guy who's the most naturally gifted player ever but treats the game with utter contempt i do have some sympathy for him.he turned 36 yesterday and listening to his interview its obvious that he wants to settle down and get married/start a family.no one should begrudge him that.

    I don't think anyone has a problem with that. It's his constant whining & negativity that gets me. If your not happy, finish up & move on....I'd have full respect for anyone making that call. But to continually whine & moan about while still doing it...that gets tiring to listen to.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I don't think anyone has a problem with that. It's his constant whining & negativity that gets me. If your not happy, finish up & move on....I'd have full respect for anyone making that call. But to continually whine & moan about while still doing it...that gets tiring to listen to.

    The problem with O'Sullivan is if he retires from snooker he'd would have absolutly nothing to do. He lives like a hermit, hardy ever goes out, yes he's a wealthy man and but he always was going to be wealthy regardless of what he earned through snooker.
    He's had a couple of knocks in life such as his dad serving a life stretch in prison, a couple of failed relationships too, and he also is a dad to two kids but to be honest though i take his retirement or hint of retirement statements with a pinch of salt, he loves competing and now after getting beaten by the games most exciting prospect in his last two matches by the odd fame i'm sure he'll be more determained than ever to prove he can still compete at the highest level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    zack01 wrote: »
    The problem with O'Sullivan is if he retires from snooker he'd would have absolutly nothing to do. He lives like a hermit, hardy ever goes out, yes he's a wealthy man and but he always was going to be wealthy regardless of what he earned through snooker.
    To be honest though i take his retirement or hint of retirement statements with a pinch of salt, he loves competing and now after getting beaten by the games most exciting prospect i'm sure he'll be more determained than ever to prove he can still compete at the highest level.

    He's a dream to watch at times, & when you look back at his 5 minute maximum to this day you have to wonder if we'll ever see the likes again. In a way like someone mentioned above, I kind of pity him. He's battling his demons on camera, & that can't be easy. But sometimes I wonder if he's his own worst enemy.

    I do think his best days are behind him though, & that sad thing is thats only because of his mindset.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Gould - Murphy; what an epic struggle. Feel sorry for Gould who was on a rampage after going 5-0 down, Murphy held out his nerves after some truly awful shots in the final frame to win the match.

    BTW Gould's shot on a red across the table tucked up behind the brown is easily the best shot of the tournament. Fantastic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    Enderman wrote: »
    Gould - Murphy; what an epic struggle. Feel sorry for Gould who was on a rampage after going 5-0 down, Murphy held out his nerves after some truly awful shots in the final frame to win the match.

    BTW Gould's shot on a red across the table tucked up behind the brown is easily the best shot of the tournament. Fantastic.

    Felt sorry for Gould myself, i feel he does'nt get enough attention for his achievements over the last few seasons. He'll be a top 16 player for a few seasons in my opinion, Murphy on the other hand collapsed from 5-0 up but like all great players he recovered in time to see out the match.

    Delighted to see Ricky Walden win, a really nice guy and a fellow Liverpool supporter too !!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    That's the top three in the world and Ronnie gone already. Very open tournament as most of them are these days with nobody really dominating the game anymore.

    Bit shocked to hear Ali Carter say he's retiring at the end of the season. Says he's sick of the game and he can't wait to retire in April. It's not as if he's in danger of dropping out of the top 16 either as he's 8th in the world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭Setun


    Pighead wrote: »
    That's the top three in the world and Ronnie gone already. Very open tournament as most of them are these days with nobody really dominating the game anymore.

    Bit shocked to hear Ali Carter say he's retiring at the end of the season. Says he's sick of the game and he can't wait to retire in April. It's not as if he's in danger of dropping out of the top 16 either as he's 8th in the world.
    Did Ali Carter say he's retiring?? Very surprised myself if he is, but to be honest it didn't look like he was enjoying himself out there in the few frames I saw him play over the week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    Daddio wrote: »
    Did Ali Carter say he's retiring?? Very surprised myself if he is, but to be honest it didn't look like he was enjoying himself out there in the few frames I saw him play over the week.

    Missed the action last night myself, and to be honest i was very surprised to hear that Carter is intending to retirevat the end of the season.
    He's an established top ten player, he's a ranking event winner, a world championship finalist and is popular with other players and the fans.

    It's been well documented that he suffers badly with Crohns disease although to my knowledge he has'nt missed any tournaments through this.
    He is also a fully qualified pilot and has always said he would like to fly commercial airlines some day.

    Yes he's had a bad season by his standards but in my opinion he still has plenty to offer the game, he's one of the players i enjoy watching and i would like to see him reconsider his plans and continue playing for another few seasons.

    So quater final day today and there are four decent matches in store, this afternoon sees Maguire v Trump, and Ding v Robertson, and this evening sees Walden v Murphy and Allen v Fu.
    I still fancy my pre tournament pick Neil Robertson to come out top on Sunday evening, incidently after today we go into the longer matches for the semi's and final.

    I'm heading over to York Saturday morning for the weekend and after watching the majority of the action this week i can't wait to see it all live.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Is there any reliable sources to confirm Ali's retirement at the end of the season? I can't seem to find one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭zack01


    Enderman wrote: »
    Is there any reliable sources to confirm Ali's retirement at the end of the season? I can't seem to find one.

    He put this up on his Twitter account last night.....

    'going to retire at the end of the season! And I can't wait
    I'm dead serious, life is to short to do something you don't enjoy, 25 years is enough! Pastures new....


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 allOtherPlaces


    zack01 wrote: »
    Delighted to see Ricky Walden win, a really nice guy and a fellow Liverpool supporter too !!!!

    Now WHY did you have to tell me that? :( I was becoming a big Walden fan...

    Billy (lifelong Evertonian) :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭bradolf pittler


    i'd be very suprised if carter "retires" at the end of the season,he's still in the top 16 and is guarenteed over £30,000 in prize money without having to pot a ball next year.another knee jerk reaction cos he's having a poor season.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Wow. Thought Judd was in danger of being knocked out today but he's absolutely crushing Maguire at the moment. About to go 5-1 up having knocked in back to back centuries. Playing way better than he did in his opening two rounds. Will be hard to beat if he keeps this form up.


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