Fundraiser for UCD Bum

kkumk

Lots of UCD Societies are always holding fundraiser's for various causes, which is great, but why don't we hold one for the UCD Bum? Get him some new clothes, a haircut, a shelter(presuming he doesn't have one?) etc! He's part of the furniture at this stage in UCD and its a shame nobody (that I know of) has ever really acknowledged it!!

Einhard

Anyone know the story with Mr. Bum? I started UCD in 2000 and he was a regular fixture on campus by then. So many rumours going around about him- he was a high flying superstar professor of something or other but didn't get the promotion he expected/ found his missus in bed with a student etc and had a breakdown. I'm sure there's a million and one other theories, but I presume the reality is a tad more mundance. So, any ideas?

beardedmaster

I personally prefer the name Old Man Belfield. The most widely spread rumour concerning him is that he once stopped a girl from being raped, and as such, is given food and accommodation from UCD - of course I don't know if any of that is true or not.

What I do know however, is that a friend of mine who lived in Glenomena last year says he has a little house somewhere around the back where NovaUCD is, and she saw him one time go in with a bag of shopping and stuff.

To me he'll always be a fixture of the campus, and I'm only a 2nd year.
He does seem elderly enough, but not ancient. I'm sure he'll be around for a much longer time, and more than likely stay in UCD until the end of his days, unless he gets really ill and has to go to a home or something.
I can imagine if he died or anything, UCD would make a bit of a deal about it, even if it was just the student newspapers.

RandolphEsq

He gets free food, but leaves the rubbish on tables without cleaning up after himself. He, along with the others who do that, are animals.

HavingCrack

Einhard wrote: »

Anyone know the story with Mr. Bum? I started UCD in 2000 and he was a regular fixture on campus by then. So many rumours going around about him- he was a high flying superstar professor of something or other

The professor story is probably the closest to the truth. He wasn't a 'superstar' professor as such though. He was just a fairly regular English professor who happened to be a very good lecturer. For some reason or other (I'd say he's the only one who knows why) he suffered a breakdown of some sorts. He tried coming back on a couple of occasions but just wasn't up to it apparently and it gradually just got worse from there.

Very sad story.

HavingCrack

RandolphEsq wrote: »

He gets free food, but leaves the rubbish on tables without cleaning up after himself. He, along with the others who do that, are animals.

I used to work in a fast food place and this was one of the reasons I ended up quitting. Nothing pissed me off more than people who left their dirty napkins and wrappers lying around and expected someone else to clean up for them.

beardedmaster

HavingCrack wrote: »

The professor story is probably the closest to the truth. He wasn't a 'superstar' professor as such though. He was just a fairly regular English professor who happened to be a very good lecturer. For some reason or other (I'd say he's the only one who knows why) he suffered a breakdown of some sorts. He tried coming back on a couple of occasions but just wasn't up to it apparently and it gradually just got worse from there.

Very sad story.

Wow... is that actually true?

HavingCrack

beardedmaster wrote: »

Wow... is that actually true?

I heard it off 2 different senior members of faculty (both now retired) who remembered the original events apparently. I couldn't swear to it being 100% accurate but the fact that I heard the same story off two different people on two different occasions would seem to confirm it's pretty truthful.

beardedmaster

HavingCrack wrote: »

I heard it off 2 different senior members of faculty (both now retired) who remembered the original events apparently. I couldn't swear to it being 100% accurate but the fact that I heard the same story off two different people on two different occasions would seem to confirm it's pretty truthful.

I had heard the story that he was a lecturer/Professor being bandied about by a few folks myself, but I had always assumed it was made up for the sake of being fanciful. That's actually amazing, even if it is tragic. I certainly hope the story of him saving a girl from being raped is true.

Alan_P

beardedmaster wrote: »

What I do know however, is that a friend of mine who lived in Glenomena last year says he has a little house somewhere around the back where NovaUCD is, and she saw him one time go in with a bag of shopping and stuff.

Was your friend specific about where this house is ? I'm racking my brains trying to think of anything like that down there.

There is a "hidden" house reached from a driveway off the Owenstown Road entrance. The driveway has a gate at the end,that's always closed, and you can see the house from the laneway between the Owenstown Road and Foster's Avenue entrance :- but I wouldn't describe it as small.

beardedmaster

Alan_P wrote: »

Was your friend specific about where this house is ? I'm racking my brains trying to think of anything like that down there.

There is a "hidden" house reached from a driveway off the Owenstown Road entrance. The driveway has a gate at the end,that's always closed, and you can see the house from the laneway between the Owenstown Road and Foster's Avenue entrance :- but I wouldn't describe it as small.

She lived in the newest of the Glenomena apartment buildings, the onces furthest from the campus proper. And the house was visible from her window. That's all I know I'm afraid!

Musefan

I live in the furthest Glenomena house, one of the new ones. I see that man most mornings on my way to class, and we always say hi to each other. He seems quite friendly. I was waiting to meet my dad for dinner one day at the security shed near the Merville gates, and the old man walked up the grass bank opposite and into the trees beside it. He didn't come back out before I left and it was a good 15 minutes. Maybe he can access his house if he has one, through there? When I lived in Roebuck in first year I saw him quite frequently walking along the perimeter fence.

Conor108

We had this kind of thread before and someone mentioned that during the winter months he goes to a home in Dun Laoghaire.

jan shyr

We had this kind of thread before and someone mentioned that during the winter months he goes to a home in Dun Laoghaire.

Someone was clearly talking out of their ass.
Saw the bum a good few times walking in Roebuck during the winter a couple years ago while jogging late in the evening.
He is also on campus during winter months.

KatCookie

He is looked after by a few people in UCD and around UCD on the quiet, He gets his dole/pension/ government money through them and is given clothes etc too. The notion of having a fundraiser for one person is a bit ridiculous, why not raise money for a homeless charity that could distribute the funds equally. I've seen many homeless people just living off campus that are just as deserving as just one thats infamous around UCD.

Fad

He used to hang around the grassy bits around the hub a lot, they've taken that away now... He still spends a good bit of time in the hub though.

Maybe he might move the the lounge below ag where the sci-fi off shoot group migrated to when they took the couches away (Whenever they properly close the hub).

Smeefa

My friend works in the SU shop, Old Man Belfield comes in and gets loads of stuff - coffee cigarettes food etc and pays 4 quid which goes in a special box behind the counter.

He has a house and is looked after, he has a social worker who visits.

He has had a stroke and cant really talk

He hangs around ucd as part of his daily routine, I guess its better than sitting at home all day every day or whatever...

[Jackass]

I've seen him eating in the SU shop the odd time. I find it hard to believe he has a house, he is clearly homeless and (sadly) smells like it too.

I sometimes see all the bits of bread on the floor and wrappers on the table and stuff and know he was here! I thought about buying him a coffee before, but he gets stuff free?

Interesting to hear about him. Never seen him anywhere other than the SU shop though. That's amazing that he used to be a lecturer, but sad he can't really talk, would be kind of cool to chat to him some time if I find myself sitting near him in SU again.

delta_bravo

There was a thread on this forum 3-4 years about people wanting to pool together money and buy him a present for Christmas. It never happened and was fairly roundly criticised I think.

Jackmcg

kkumk wrote: »

Lots of UCD Societies are always holding fundraiser's for various causes, which is great, but why don't we hold one for the UCD Bum?

how about you start by giving him a bit of respect? im sure he'd tell you where to shove your haircut if he knew you were referring to him as "UCD Bum"!

Sl!mCharles

Yeah maybe not referring to him as furniture or "bum" would be a nice start if you so desperately want to show your kindness.

dazaazad

Someone mentioned that he might have had a stroke, I fear this may be true as a couple of us tried to speak with em last April and all he could do was grunt and moan!!Dont worry it was only for a few seconds and we were quite respectful!

gypsy_rose

Think it's pretty callous to call him a bum

MacieC

I lived in Belgrove, Merville and Glenomena and I bumped into him quite a few times near each of these residences. However, he seems to be around Glenomena quite a lot. I thought I was hallucinating when I first saw him in first year, because seeing someone who looks homeless on campus is a bit .. strange.
He's a part of UCD though. Quite a popular figure. As to know what happened so he is in such situation, I believe it's none of our business.

Besides, he's not homeless. He just seems very very depressed.

Honestly, why not set up a fundraiser for people in UCD (students) who are actually struggling financially, him included ?! As someone said above, creating a fundraiser for just one person is a bit too much.

errlloyd

If he really needed cash he could just run for the SU, He'd ****ing walk it.

Blacey

HavingCrack wrote: »

I used to work in a fast food place and this was one of the reasons I ended up quitting. Nothing pissed me off more than people who left their dirty napkins and wrappers lying around and expected someone else to clean up for them.

I wonder if you worked in more expensive restaurent would you complain about people not bringing their plates to the dishwasher when they were done? :rolleyes:

yellow hen

Lets be pretty clear about something here. I nor anyone here knows anything about this man.I do know, however, that many people fall on hard times and were that my dad or my relative, I would be upset and horrified to think that people, some of whom have no experience of how difficult life outside of their sheltered family homes can be, called him a 'bum'.

As far as I am aware, he pays for his tea in the SU shop. He doesnt speak, which is as another poster mentioned may be due to a stroke. Or maybe he simply chooses not to speak? I for one, think that whatever the man's situation is, it is his own business.

Time for a bit of respect people.

asdf1234

Blacey wrote: »

I wonder if you worked in more expensive restaurent would you complain about people not bringing their plates to the dishwasher when they were done? :rolleyes:

As a matter of interest, how much do you tip the person who cleans up after you in fast food outlets and the like? Do you ever go over the ten percent if they really do an outstanding job?

Killer Pigeon

Guys, have you not realised yet that the Old Man UCD is actually Hugh Brady in disguise? The same costume/make-up artists who did Lord of the Rings helped design his disguise.

this guy has been around ucd since about 1995 - he wasn't there when I started college there but appeared near that year or thereabouts. can't believe that he's still there. I still play astro soccer in UCD every week and have seen him up near the new swimming pool site when I park. he looks the same as he did 17 years ago... I always think that he looks like he has a certain dignity about him...

Jackmcg

asdf1234 wrote: »

As a matter of interest, how much do you tip the person who cleans up after you in fast food outlets and the like? Do you ever go over the ten percent if they really do an outstanding job?

I work in a fancy-shmancy catering company for minimum wage with no tips.. doesn't matter if its mcdonalds or elsewhere, if hes not willing to clean up (read: do his job) then give the wages to someone more deserving of a job.

bit off-topic woops..

but yeah, i see old man belfield nearly every day up im up in richview getting a coffee and a sambo (without paying i think) really curious about his story now since this thread started- without the rumours!

asdf1234

Jackmcg wrote: »

I work in a fancy-shmancy catering company for minimum wage with no tips.. doesn't matter if its mcdonalds or elsewhere, if hes not willing to clean up (read: do his job) then give the wages to someone more deserving of a job.

Its someone's job to clean the toilets as well. That doesn't mean you should feel obliged to **** on the floor.

about the guy leaving stuff on tables - he's had a stroke apparently - that has a significant affect on one's brain - maybe he doesn't even realise this... some people have little enough to worry about compared to what this guy has been through in his life...

HavingCrack

Blacey wrote: »

I wonder if you worked in more expensive restaurent would you complain about people not bringing their plates to the dishwasher when they were done? :rolleyes:

It's not really the same thing though is it? Do you tip all those people in McDonalds 10% at the end of your meal?

HavingCrack

Jackmcg wrote: »

I work in a fancy-shmancy catering company for minimum wage with no tips.. doesn't matter if its mcdonalds or elsewhere, if hes not willing to clean up (read: do his job) then give the wages to someone more deserving of a job.

Cleaning up ketchup soaked wrappers was not part of my job but it still had to be done, it was not part of the job description. Likewise when people ****ted on the floor someone had to clean it. As far as I'm concerned no one in McDonalds should be expected to clean up someones **** which is the natural logic which you're defending.

kkumk

Jackmcg wrote: »

how about you start by giving him a bit of respect? im sure he'd tell you where to shove your haircut if he knew you were referring to him as "UCD Bum"!

Sl!mCharles wrote: »

Yeah maybe not referring to him as furniture or "bum" would be a nice start if you so desperately want to show your kindness.

gypsy_rose wrote: »

Think it's pretty callous to call him a bum

yellow hen wrote: »

Lets be pretty clear about something here. I nor anyone here knows anything about this man.I do know, however, that many people fall on hard times and were that my dad or my relative, I would be upset and horrified to think that people, some of whom have no experience of how difficult life outside of their sheltered family homes can be, called him a 'bum'.

As far as I am aware, he pays for his tea in the SU shop. He doesnt speak, which is as another poster mentioned may be due to a stroke. Or maybe he simply chooses not to speak? I for one, think that whatever the man's situation is, it is his own business.

Time for a bit of respect people.

I'm aware that its not the most polite way to refer to him, but I was just using the most common term that I had heard for him so that people would know who I was talking about, I didn't mean any offense by it. Furthermore, if I were him, I think I'd have better things to care about than what a bunch of irrelevant college students refer to me as.
The whole point of my original post was not to cause harm or offend him or patronize him by assuming that he would even need or want our help. I was just pointing out the fact that UCD students are so excellent at volunteering and helping great causes and yet we seem (correct me if I'm wrong) to be ignoring someone on our own campus who could perhaps do with our help. Forgive me for making such assumptions, but giving out about people for wanting to help him isn't exactly productive either.

Jackmcg

HavingCrack wrote: »

Cleaning up ketchup soaked wrappers was not part of my job but it still had to be done.

A customer in a sit-down restaurant (fast food or otherwise) is paying for a service as well as the food. There are no signs anywhere saying that the customer's responsibility to clean up, so if they choose not to clean up then its on you, job description or not. As you say- it has to be done- so stop moaning and just put the wrappers in the bin.. there are far worse jobs out there

And you simply cant compare clearing feces to clearing wrappers..!! I'd completely understand if you walked out of your job if you had to clean up ****.

simonrooneyzaga

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055241773

This is as complete a history as you will find on T'Internet in relation to this man.

HavingCrack

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055241773

This is as complete a history as you will find on T'Internet in relation to this man.

To be fair, it's just an older version of this thread, it doesn't really have anything that this one does not. In fact the pinball machine story was a load of bollocks, no other word for it.