REPS Ireland vs Fitness Professionals Ireland

odin_ie

Right, I am well bloody confused now. The NCEF have brought out their new version of the NNR, FPI, claiming it to be the all singing, all dancing, complete one and only register for Fitness Professionals in Ireland. REPS Ireland, according to their site..

REPS Ireland wrote:

This week NCEF announced the establishment of Fitness Professionals Ireland, claiming it to be the single unified register for Ireland. This is not true. The only register recognised by ICREPs - The International Confederation of Registers for Exercise Professionals is REPs Ireland. A country can only have one register recognised, so this development by NCEF is seen as divisive and destructive. NCEF were REPs Ireland members.

The accredited training providers represented by REPs Ireland are appalled at this behaviour by NCEF. We are seeking clarification from all those who supported this development and will keep you informed.

Now, I did my CEHF with the NCEF, I won't be doing my Personal Training qualification with them, cause to be honest, I have found a better course, costs a little more, but it is a solid 4 week course and is REPS recognised. Now, I don't know if FPI will recognise it, or any other non NCEF course for that matter.

What I am trying to get at I guess is which register am I better off putting my name with and why?

Inspector Coptoor

You lost me at "solid 4 week course"
Both sound $h1t€.

How much was that course?

odin_ie

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

You lost me at "solid 4 week course"
Both sound $h1t€.

How much was that course?

€1650, 44 REPs points. I await what you would suggest...

Inspector Coptoor

odin_ie wrote: »

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

You lost me at "solid 4 week course"
Both sound $h1t€.

How much was that course?

€1650, 44 REPs points. I await what you would suggest...

Something like the ACE personal trainer course.

itsallaboutheL

odin_ie wrote: »

Right, I am well bloody confused now. The NCEF have brought out their new version of the NNR, FPI, claiming it to be the all singing, all dancing, complete one and only register for Fitness Professionals in Ireland. REPS Ireland, according to their site..


Now, I did my CEHF with the NCEF, I won't be doing my Personal Training qualification with them, cause to be honest, I have found a better course, costs a little more, but it is a solid 4 week course and is REPS recognised. Now, I don't know if FPI will recognise it, or any other non NCEF course for that matter.

What I am trying to get at I guess is which register am I better off putting my name with and why?

I gave up trying to understand any correspondence i get from them.

Zamboni

It is all bullsh1t.
The reason why there is no universal reps system is because whoever controls it makes the money.
The whole thing is a scam to make gullibles pay for CPD.
This is just a big fight between Ilam, Sharkey, NCEF and all the usual suspects.

Hanley

I really don't know what's going on here. Does anyone?

Nervous Wreck

Hanley wrote: »

I really don't know what's going on here. Does anyone?

So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

odin_ie

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

Seems that way alright :P

Boss_eye

Just to let you know , the Insurance companies are on board with REPS , most clubs particulary those afiliated to ILAM (which is 90% of them) are now only reconising and hiring on the strength of REPs qualifications , or are moving in that direction as is done in the UK etc.
NCEF are just tring to do their own thing as they have always done. Dfferent education bodies providing varying quality of courses all claiming theirs is the best is the reason why there has been a poor standard of general fitness professionals in this country , hence the reason REPs was brought in. So stick with REPs , although it is still in its early stages it will be the way forward.
........By the way I am not affiliated to REPs or any education body , but I have been involveed in the fitness industry for many years, and deal with club owners and managers on a daily basis nationwide, and this is what they are all saying.
Hope this helps.

Zamboni

Boss_eye wrote: »

........By the way I am not affiliated to REPs or any education body ,

You've said that before. Boss Eye doth protest too much...;)

Boss_eye

Zamboni wrote: »

You've said that before. Boss Eye doth protest too much...;)

I think if you look back at any of my previous posts you will see who I am and where i work , and Know that I am NOT afillilliated to REPs etc , I am however a big supporter of what they are trying to achieve , after being involved in the fitness Industry for over 20 years in one shape or another both in Ireland and intarnationaly is has sadened me to see the poor quality of fitness staff in this country over the years , many of them through no fault of their own, most of them got involved in the fitness industry because they had a passion for it but unfortunatly where fed some poor information on some mickey mouse course they paid good money for, by teachers who had barley a clue themselves.
They can tell you the latin name for every muscle but how to change the shape or help it of perform better ......clueless!!
So any organisation trying to improve this and maintain some sort of uniformity of quality of qulifications as is the norm in the UK , Australia, USA etc etc......I'm a fan.

metamorphosis

If you're a good trainer in whatever area you specilize in, you will have a great CV and will get a job or get on well if self employed/freelance regardless of the number if letters after your name.

I still get copious amounts of letters to pay for these new, not so novel out for money ideas. **** off please.Il pay for what I actually need to to get on, not what you tell me that you think i need. Too many letters with these new things make my brain hurt

Zamboni

Boss_eye wrote: »

I think if you look back at any of my previous posts you will see who I am and where i work , and Know that I am NOT afillilliated to REPs etc , I am however a big supporter of what they are trying to achieve , after being involved in the fitness Industry for over 20 years in one shape or another both in Ireland and intarnationaly is has sadened me to see the poor quality of fitness staff in this country over the years , many of them through no fault of their own, most of them got involved in the fitness industry because they had a passion for it but unfortunatly where fed some poor information on some mickey mouse course they paid good money for, by teachers who had barley a clue themselves.
They can tell you the latin name for every muscle but how to change the shape or help it of perform better ......clueless!!
So any organisation trying to improve this and maintain some sort of uniformity of quality of qulifications as is the norm in the UK , Australia, USA etc etc......I'm a fan.

It is a cartel run by ILAM (business employers) with education providers on board.
The providers get a higher demand for their courses and they can dictate price and make up bollox add on courses for extortionate fess under the guise of CPD.
Everyone wins except the fitness client and the fitness trainer.
Scam of the highest order.

Kevin Duffy

Zamboni wrote: »

This is just a big fight between Ilam, Sharkey, NCEF and all the usual suspects.

lalaboy wrote: »

This is just a big fight between Ilam, Sharkey, NCEF and all the usual suspects.

I can't help thinking this is all just a big fight between Ilam, Sharkey, NCEF and all the usual suspects.

newfit

I was on the NCEF register for years then I moved to the states and I am just back. I heard about FPI and REPS Irl from the ILAM website. When I compared both I decided on FPI because I wanted to set up my own classes and they had really cheap insurance and other benefits which helped me get discounts on equipment. You can't be bullied into joining a register i.e. REPS or FPI and employers should not be enforcing it. I based it on what I needed and what was important to me. BTW. I just got my lovely EREPS certificate and card in the post. At the end of the day its up to you on what you want.

Quiet

Friends, you all seem immersed in the industry and using the in-jargon. On the theme here, can anyone lay out some comparisons of the different fitness qualifications and which is more locally and globally recognised as I would like to qualify without wasting money on terrible over-marketed courses.

Thanks in advance

korb

I just found this on the NTC website:

"ILAM Issues Strong Statement
ILAM, the representative body for employers in the fitness industry has issued a strongly worded statement to offer clarity.
The statement, issued Friday September 23rd 2011 which concerns recent developments regarding the register for fitness professionals in Ireland states:
"ILAM recognises REPs Ireland as the National Register for Exercise Professionals in Ireland. We are issuing this statement on the back of the confusion caused by NCEF this week in announcing the establishment of Fitness Professionals Ireland (FPI) in conjunction with EREPS.
ILAM does not accept FPI as the National Register and strongly objects to the confusion caused by NCEF/EREPS.
We encourage ILAM members to register with REPs Ireland as it is recognised by ICREPS - the International Organisation representing Registers of Exercise Professionals. A country can only have one register recognised, so this development by NCEF is seen as divisive and destructive.
We are aware that REPs Ireland are in discussion with EREPS / EHFA to resolve the matter. ""

Hanley

korb wrote: »

I just found this on the NTC website:

"ILAM Issues Strong Statement
ILAM, the representative body for employers in the fitness industry has issued a strongly worded statement to offer clarity.
The statement, issued Friday September 23rd 2011 which concerns recent developments regarding the register for fitness professionals in Ireland states:
"ILAM recognises REPs Ireland as the National Register for Exercise Professionals in Ireland. We are issuing this statement on the back of the confusion caused by NCEF this week in announcing the establishment of Fitness Professionals Ireland (FPI) in conjunction with EREPS.
ILAM does not accept FPI as the National Register and strongly objects to the confusion caused by NCEF/EREPS.
We encourage ILAM members to register with REPs Ireland as it is recognised by ICREPS - the International Organisation representing Registers of Exercise Professionals. A country can only have one register recognised, so this development by NCEF is seen as divisive and destructive.
We are aware that REPs Ireland are in discussion with EREPS / EHFA to resolve the matter. ""

Clear as mud!!