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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Irishchick


    Vince32 wrote: »
    Great news :):):)

    TY Iko9 , Galway Mike, was more than happy to let me take home "midnite's" sister, her name is "thunder", he asked alot of questions, at first I thought he wasn't goiing to let take her, but we talking about sleding, and harnesses his eyes lit up and we chatted for ages. I can't wait to get her strong enough to kite me on a bike, should be alot of fun

    Here's a pic, its a little blurry, but she won't sit still lol.

    Thunder

    I've been trying to do a little obidence training, but she is not interested in me or the treat lol, then when I get up to leave the room she won't leave me side which is the wierdest thing.

    I'm going to see a specialist on sat / sun so hopefully she can give some pointers on holding "Thunder's" attention.

    Thanks for everything :) <3 XoXoXo

    PS: I'll try to get a better snap up later on, thats all I have atm, but you can see the family marking on the head, it kind of looks like a white sword.

    Best of luck. Would you mind keeping us updated? Im always interested to know how people are getting on with new pups .


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    Yes of course I will, I can keep this thread open so her progress is trackable,

    I'm know it's early day, but I've a 6 week old pup, obey more commands than my lady, thing is I would have more success if I could hold her attention for more than .002 of a second :P Is there a way I can hold her attention? or is there some treat food that Huskies cannot resist.

    I've heard of strong willed pups. but I'm getting concerned that she won't play, there is something wrong with a child that doen't play - creepy wierd -

    All she does is sit by my feet, until its time to walk, feed or poop, the few toys I got her are boring, some squeaky chews, and thats just wierd


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    I just finished a 20 min training session with a clicker to mark the correct position for the sit command and ... nothing.

    She has zero interest in me, the treat or the command, anyone who thinks they can train a dog in a few days is deluded imo. But there seems to be some progress, she does sit, and wait for praise, but not on command, shortly after the command when it looks like I've given up she will tease me by sitting, but on her terms lol.

    I need to find a way to become the alpha, or this will continue, any thoughts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    just a note on the aggresion / prey thing

    our sibe is awful off the lead, if you have treats she will come back if there are no wild animals around but if there are birds or rabbits around good luck she wants them more then anything. she never attacks other dogs but is always interested, sometimes the pulling in the lead might look like she is trying to get at them but really she just wants to say hello.

    its the same thing with kids really. We have young cousins who come over regularly so she is used to kids of a wide age range and they have hurt her by mistake and the reaction has never been aggressive always submissive. when out and on the long lead she will run up to toddlers if I don't notice they are there first and that can freak out parents as can her tendency try and get her paws on their shoulders / jump up (she is only a pup so not huge) but its always just to say hello and its great when the toddler and parent isn't afraid but obviously if they are nervous and not used to dogs it can look aggressive so I try not to let it happen.

    I know someone with a male dog and he is super laid back and dosnt care about anyone or anything, I imagine if he was let off the lead he would go after the wild animals like our one but dogs / children can pull off him and he isnt bothered


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Irishchick


    Vince32 wrote: »
    I just finished a 20 min training session with a clicker to mark the correct position for the sit command and ... nothing.

    She has zero interest in me, the treat or the command, anyone who thinks they can train a dog in a few days is deluded imo. But there seems to be some progress, she does sit, and wait for praise, but not on command, shortly after the command when it looks like I've given up she will tease me by sitting, but on her terms lol.

    I need to find a way to become the alpha, or this will continue, any thoughts?

    You need to remember how young she is :D. Keep training and training and you'll find that when she gets a bit older she will pay more attention and learn faster. At the minute she probably just thinks your mental, but keep at it! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    My husky, Dash, is nearly one. I was loosing patience training him too but keep at it. Try using small bits of cooked chicken or meat. She will very quickly learn then ;) but only on a huskys terms. I find this sooo funny.
    On recall my fellow was great up on till 8months till he learned he can out run me. Dont turn it into a game of chase or you will never get the lead back on. I used to walk the other direction and he quickly knows to come back. I ONLY let him off in enclosed parks or fields.
    For walking at heal, i gave this up. i tried every kind of hailtis and harness and no luck. So bought a bungee lead and harness from country hounds (someone on here recommended them) and it is the best buys ever. I would highly recommend them.

    Best of luck. Huskys are great


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    well I finally got something, after trying various treat foods, I finally found her weakness, hehehe, she just loves sliced deli ham, and in very small amounts I was able to teach her to sit :cool:

    It took ages for her to even look at me, but now, at least when I have ham, I get her attention, and producing the sit command is actually quite easy, Thunder gets it almost every time, and with some re-enforcment she will get it every time. only took 2 days.

    I've started working on stay, but lol now she won't release, she sits and won't move until I leave her line of sight, I need to get her on the leash so I can release her quicker...and on command.

    On our walk in the rain today, we decided to play in the grass and mud, she loved it, so did I if i'm honest :P , so I decided to try something, and I just dropped the leash and took a few steps, she followed, then I changed direction and she followed again, we did this a few more times, and I removed the leash completely, AND SHE RAN... a quarter mile, then she looked back, I called her name and a short whistle, and she came tearing home to my side.

    After I changed Direction a few times and she followed without command, I noticed a few other dogs in the park, and decided not to test my luck, since she completely ignores me when something else has her attention.

    So After finding the right treat food for her, I was able to teach Sit, a part of Stay, and a part of Heel, She stills pulls hard on the leash, lol my shoulder and back hurt alot more than I thought they would. When She pulls on the leash, I tell her NO! and change direction, and repeat until she learns to stop pulling, or I STOP moving for 10 Secs and start and again with the command "walk on!"

    So far its really going well, but I still am very worried // concerned that she won't PLAY, not with me, her toys nothing, no one. She is content to sit silently by my feet and follow me around. When I try to play a game, like fetch, or tug-o-war, she dis-engages, I've never seen this in a pup before.

    Is there something wrong with a pup that wont play???


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    For walking at heal, i gave this up. i tried every kind of hailtis and harness and no luck. So bought a bungee lead and harness from country hounds (someone on here recommended them) and it is the best buys ever. I would highly recommend them.
    On this, I was told by a pet store clerk, that the harnesses are designed to encourage "pulling" and once they start it's almost impossible to break, and it would be better to use a leash on collar, and just "tug" to correct, and change your direction.

    I've been doing this, and honestly I'm tripping on her half the time, its a good technique, passed down from pet shop clerk to pet shop clerk over the centuries, and it honestly is working for me, but maybe that because my pup isn't big enough for her harness yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Irishchick


    Vince32 wrote: »

    Is there something wrong with a pup that wont play???

    No, I have a feeling that she just doesnt know how. If she is used to playing with littler mates then she might not know what those things are for.

    You'll have to teach her how to play. Show real interest in the item yourself, pretend it the best thing you've ever seen in your life. :D

    If its a chew toy put it to your mouth and pretend your having a great time chewing it. I know it sounds mental but it actually works. A little bit of jealousy/curiosity works wonders ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Vince32 wrote: »
    On this, I was told by a pet store clerk, that the harnesses are designed to encourage "pulling" and once they start it's almost impossible to break, and it would be better to use a leash on collar, and just "tug" to correct, and change your direction.

    I've been doing this, and honestly I'm tripping on her half the time, its a good technique, passed down from pet shop clerk to pet shop clerk over the centuries, and it honestly is working for me, but maybe that because my pup isn't big enough for her harness yet.

    Just because someone works in a pet shop doesn't mean that they have had any training in the products they sell, or indeed in anything to do with the animals that fit these products, they are just someone who works in a shop that sells pet products. There are different harnesses available for different things, including some fantastic non-pulling harnesses. A lot of sled dogs learn that their x back or shoulder harnesses are for pulling, and a collar is for walking nicely, think of all the siberian huskies who are shown, going around a ring on a very, very thin collar and lead, but who are also working dogs, pulling very hard in their harnesses.

    Siberian huskies aren't untrainable, but if you want the dog, you have to think about what they are bred for, and what their history is. They were set free every summer by the chuckchi people to hunt for their own food, so they still have a very, very high prey drive, and if let off lead in an unenclosed area, they can and usually will run off, and run and run and run. Most sibes are actually pretty obedient off lead until they hit the 9/10 month mark, that is when they realise they can run faster than you.

    Also think about the scenario that I know I use a lot, but it does sum up the sibe mentality. A team of sibes is mushing across a frozen lake, the lead dogs feel the ice shift under their paws, or sense the ice thinning. The musher way behind on the sled is telling them to go on straight, but the dogs know if they do, there is a good chance they and the musher will go through the ice and die. So the dogs go around the thin ice, ignoring the commands they are being given. A good musher accepts that, and trusts his/her dogs as all of their lives depend on it. Not many life threatening situations here while dryland mushing, but that is the psyche of the dog, and you ignore it at your peril. They are intelligent, and need to be trusted by their owner and they need to trust you that you're not going to ask them to do something that they can't do. This is why people say they are difficult to train. I don't think they are, but it depends what you want to train them to do. A lot of my dogs know the words to turn left and right, they know when to stop and when to go, when to go straight through a junction, those are the kind of commands they are easily trainable to. They can be trained to obedience, one of my sibes did the kennel club bronze good citizen award scheme with my son, she passed with flying colours. However, I wouldn't put her in the position where she had to take any part of the test outside in an unenclosed field, why would I put her life at risk like that?

    Know the breed you've got and embrace it, they are fantastic, wonderful dogs, I love them to bits. But know where they came from, and what they can do.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    Thats a great insight into the sibe, I have to admit I hadn't considered all the aspects of the dogs mentality, only what I want from her. She seems happy to make me happy and follows the scheme of work I put to her daily, but as you said, I'm starting to realise that I need to follow her scheme of work too, so she can be as happy and content as possible.

    Right now, she is a real handful and I have to walk her to the point of almost exhaustion, to spend all her energy. At first I was concerned about overdoing it, but she seems to prefer walking and running more than performing tricks for treats, as she bores easily.

    At the moment we just got back from a long hike, she stays with me or trying to coax me into going even faster, but I stay in command and refuse to run or walk fast, instead we take longer slower walks, and now she is exhausted and sleeping peacefully in her cot.

    I would like to hear any ways I could progress her training, or if I would be better off taking her to obedience school and having it done properly by a professional. As I said before she has little interest in "Sit" "Stay" or "Heel" and only does what she wants to do, when she wants to do it.

    That said, I'm not looking for miracle fix, I've only had her 3 day now, but still anything that could possibly help me hold her attention and help her learn the commands would be a god send, you mentioned teaching her "left and right", to me that seems like a huge undertaking, and I wouldn't even know where to begin teaching that.

    I'll take a trip to the library tomorrow and see if they have training books for the husky, but because they are such a rare breed these days (becoming popular) I doubt I will find anything suitable.

    Thanks alot


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Vince32 wrote: »
    I'll take a trip to the library tomorrow and see if they have training books for the husky, but because they are such a rare breed these days (becoming popular) I doubt I will find anything suitable.

    Sibes are far from a rare breed these days, donedeal is full of them and unfortunately they're not a breed for everyone.

    Did you say this pup is 6 weeks old and you've had her walking in the park? She won't be fully vaccinated yet so is at a big risk of picking up parvo which can be fatal in such a young pup. Keep her confined to your house and garden until she is fully vaccinated.

    Good luck with your new pup!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    How old is your pup again?? You are saying you walk it until exhaustion, please do not do this under any circumstances.

    Puppies are not meant to be walked very far at all at a young age as you risk damaging growing joints and bones. They shouldnt be walked much until they are fully mature. The rule is usually 5 mins per month of age per day. So if your pup is 4 months old then thats only 20 mins walk per day in total.

    Please give this poor pup a chance to settle in to your house and routine. She needs time to settle and get used to her new life and surroundings. You seem to be expecting an awful lot from her so soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    no zap, I should of written "I have seen pups who were 6 weeks and are better at taking commands than mine" also the pups I have seen are more alert and owner directed.

    Sadly we did have a pup that died from parvovirus, a Maltese Terrier, about 18 months ago, and we disinfected everything and anything the new girl could possibly come in contact with, and everything else besides, The Gardens were hosed with a 1:30 Jeyes Fluid solution 4 times, completely saturating the grounds, walls, gutters, grass, flowers and everything in the yards was soaked 4 times in 2 weeks. We did the same with the entire kitchen, walls, shelves, cabinet doors, doors, door frames. the rest of the house was steamed, carpets, curtains, chairs, sofas. I think it's fair to say we took all possible measures to safeguard against contamination, but nothing is 100% in this world, and if she starts to reject food or water, or has even the slightest bout of diarrhoea she will visit the vet within the hour day or night. It was totally heartbreaking to lose a dog to that insidious virus and we will not let it happen again. Thanks for your concern and I'm sorry to raise alarm, she has had her last shots at week 12, and the breeders assured me, though it was early, she would be ok to walk.

    @andreac
    My girl is nearly 14 weeks, born on sep 1st, so I'll start limiting the walks immediately!! our walks had been for a minimum of 30 mins, at a slow pace, and understandably now she is exhausted, thanks for letting me know, and I'm not really expecting alot from her, but her lack of focus and inability to look at me in the eyes had me concerned.

    I'll make sure she is not tired or sleepy after the walks, and make a play period after when she is most alert. I will let her adjust some more, but she is happiest sitting at my feet, and even now she is crying about my absence, I guess she doesn't like being alone in a new place, who can blame her.

    Would a cuddly toy about her size help calm her down? its gut wrenching to listen to her cry while I try to sleep, but I can't sleep with her, and she definitely can't sleep with me. What to do?

    EDIT: I found a windup clock, wrapped it in a blanket and put it under her bed, the crying stopped !! 1:07am... finally some sleep lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Vince32 wrote: »
    @andreac
    My girl is nearly 14 weeks, born on sep 1st, so I'll start limiting the walks immediately!! our walks had been for a minimum of 30 mins, at a slow pace, and understandably now she is exhausted, thanks for letting me know, and I'm not really expecting alot from her, but her lack of focus and inability to look at me in the eyes had me concerned.

    I'll make sure she is not tired or sleepy after the walks, and make a play period after when she is most alert. I will let her adjust some more, but she is happiest sitting at my feet, and even now she is crying about my absence, I guess she doesn't like being alone in a new place, who can blame her.

    Would a cuddly toy about her size help calm her down? its gut wrenching to listen to her cry while I try to sleep, but I can't sleep with her, and she definitely can't sleep with me. What to do?

    EDIT: I found a windup clock, wrapped it in a blanket and put it under her bed, the crying stopped !! 1:07am... finally some sleep lol

    Eye contact for dogs can be very difficult, I wouldn't be forcing that point at all, if you're trying to get her to look you in the eyes, she may feel threatened.

    Sibes can suffer from hip dysplacia, so definitely heed Andreac's advice on the exercise.

    Really I would suggest that you relax:D Just enjoy your new puppy, let her settle in and find her paws, she's been taken away from her mum and her littermates, it will take her time to feel safe and secure. Be her friend, definitely get ground rules in place now, but in a nice, caring way that she trusts and likes you, wants to be with you. I always make my dogs sit before they get their dinner. Trust me, she'll learn soon enough, just give her time, don't overload her with commands. If you send a child to school, you wouldn't expect them to be able to read after the first week, just let her be a puppy for a while, but as I say, with ground rules, about toilet training etc.

    With the crying at night, you have to be hard hearted if she can't sleep in with you, but again, she will soon learn. However, at that age, you'll have to get up and let her out at least once during the night, depending on what time you put her to bed, so her cries might be because she needs to go to the toilet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    Yeah your right, it just seemed to me she had way to much energy and a "long, slow" walk might be what she needed to settle, She'll be taking it nice and easy for the next few weeks, games and toys mostly, and one 15 min walk a day, until she's older.

    I can see how sibe owners would think them a menace, with so much energy. I'll be taking both your advice and keeping her "at play" more, and helping her feel at home. Sometimes I forget how scary the world is when your a kid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    We had alot of fun today and you were right, she is starting to build confidence and become more alert. I took her to the dog park, and we met a few other dogs and their owners, she was very interested and calm which was a bit of a shock to me.

    When we got home, we had a play session for 20 mins, and a 10 min training session, when she started to sit on command it was amazing and we had alot of fun with that. As soon as she lost interest in sitting we left it there.

    Starting to see the wisdom in your words now, we're both happier because of it, thanks for the support over the recent days, and I'll try to post some news every other day, we will be taking the training slowly and as she comes more into herself we will try a few different commands of the next weeks and months.

    I took her to see a pro dog trainer, who was spending 2 days in the local pet store and she explained in depth about taking it slow and playing alot more, and training alot less, once she is ready for more commands, the dog will let ME know when its time.

    Thanks again for the great advice, and if I run into anything else unexpected I'll let you know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    Hmmm, should I start a new thread?

    anyways, my 14 week old bitch wieghs 7.1kg is this right for her age? I know don't need to worry about it, she is happy and healthy.

    But I want to know what her ideal weight is, and if there is a scale I can follow to make sure she will always be at a good wieght


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Squall19


    The girls are usually alot smaller than the boys, most girls end up being between 17-23kg, so 7kg at just over 3 months puts looks good to me.

    Hard to say but if she keeps up that pace of growth she will probably end up just around 20kg, which is normal for the breed.

    This was my boy Fado at 8 weeks ( had him 2 days :D )

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    Fully grown with female who was tall for a girl almost 23" at the withers but very lean, at 22kg.

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    Here is a chart here you can use.

    http://www.belpatt.fr/dogs-puppies-weight-curve,Siberian-Husky.htm

    Fado is not a full Siberian Husky, I found that out after a year, that he is a mix with an Alaskan Malamute and Siberian.Paper work says his grandfather was an Alaskan Mal ( not sure if full ), mother was a full Siberian and father was a Siberian, Alaskan Mix.

    Was a bit gutted as I payed a nice bit for him, but I forgot about it the same day:)

    I thought he was going to be huge as he was well over 30kg and nearly 26" at the withers when he was a year old, he hasn't grown since then, put on a few kilo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Squall19


    Take loads of pictures :D

    They are gorgeous puppies.

    Here is a few of his brothers and sisters.


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    Two babies fighting

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    Gorgeous girl in the front.

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    Was great seeing them free, I kept mine off the lead until he was just over a year, but his instinct to hunt and run came out and he is on the lead at all times now.It's sad, but at least he had a year to run through the rivers, beaches, mountains etc.

    I think the happiest he has ever been was when he was 11 months and we spent hours up the Torc waterfall in Killarney, we must have walked 10 km's that day through the forest and mountain and he was free the whole time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Squall19 wrote: »


    Fado is not a full Siberian Husky, I found that out after a year, that he is a mix with an Alaskan Malamute and Siberian.Paper work says his grandfather was an Alaskan Mal ( not sure if full ), mother was a full Siberian and father was a Siberian, Alaskan Mix.

    Was a bit gutted as I payed a nice bit for him, but I forgot about it the same day:)

    I thought he was going to be huge as he was well over 30kg and nearly 26" at the withers when he was a year old, he hasn't grown since then, put on a few kilo.


    I'm a bit intrigued by this, what paperwork did you get?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Yeah im intrigued too. If your dog is not a full Husky then you wouldnt be getting any papers for it, well definitely not IKC papers as both parents have to be IKC registered to register the pups:confused:

    You wouldnt get any type of paperwork for that dog because its not a full pedigree and neither were the parents...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Squall19


    ISDW wrote: »
    I'm a bit intrigued by this, what paperwork did you get?

    I didn't get papers for him.

    I didn't ask for them when I bought him, I wasn't going to use him for stud and all that, so I didn't need them.

    I took it that they were Siberian Huskies, they were advertised as that.I only cared that he was healthy, had all vaccines, wormed etc, no problem with hips etc.Father and mother were gorgeous and healthy, pups were very strong, so I was happy with that.

    Breeder showed me IKC registration papers for the mother, she was full Sibe, he didn't have for the father, said the dog had a good track record

    I went back to the breeder after I found out from the Vet that he was a little large for a Sibe and as he didn't have ikc papers, I was curious what he was.

    Breeder showed me ikc papers for his mother ( breeders dog ), and a copy of scotish papers for his Alaskan Mal grandfather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Squall19 wrote: »
    I didn't get papers for him.

    I didn't ask for them when I bought him, I wasn't going to use him for stud and all that, so I didn't need them.

    I took it that they were Siberian Huskies, they were advertised as that.I only cared that he was healthy, had all vaccines, wormed etc, no problem with hips etc.Father and mother were gorgeous and healthy, pups were very strong, so I was happy with that.

    Breeder showed me IKC registration papers for the mother, she was full Sibe, he didn't have for the father, said the dog had a good track record

    I went back to the breeder after I found out from the Vet that he was a little large for a Sibe and as he didn't have ikc papers, I was curious what he was.

    Breeder showed me ikc papers for his mother ( breeders dog ), and a copy of scotish papers for his Alaskan Mal grandfather.

    You could get the breeder then for misleading advertising, although I don't suppose you still have the ad for the pups?

    How do you know the hips are okay, if the breeder was selling crosses and saying they were pure breeds, he obviously isn't doing hip scoring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭IK09


    hey vince32.

    Just a note, about walking her. Im no expert (Midnight is my first pup!) but ive heard its near impossible to break the habit of a dog pulling on its leash. I have been bringing her out the estate and just letting her run around, she loves the freedom and it saves me the hassle of correcting it later. She will wander around but wont leave my sight. She chased a car there yesterday, but only for maybe 5seconds, then realized she wasnt gonna get near it and came back to my side. Have you had Thunder around cars at all? Midnight was freaked when she saw them first. Had to take her up in my arms, she was trembling. Shes fine with them now, we just watched them go by for about 10mins and that was the end of it.

    P.S if your having trouble actually putting her down for the night, her sister loves a hot water bottle, jumps right into her kennel with one


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    Ok, I used your chart that you linked.

    Your dog was born on Thursday and is 0 year(s), 3 month(s) and 4 day(s) old
    Your dog did not reach its grown-up size.
    It will reach its grown-up size in the neighborhood of the age of 16 months
    Its weight is: 7 kg and should be: 8.35 kg
    According to its current weight and its age, we can estimate its weight grown-up time in: 16.85 kg

    So from this I can say what?

    I need to start feeding her a little more for certain, what else would be a good idea?

    Thanks for the pictures, they really are beautiful dogs :) I'll post some of my pics just as soon as I can.

    Thanks for the info


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    IK09

    Yeah, Thunder was scared out of her wits the first time see saw a moving car, bus, truck and she stopped dead in her tracks until the "beast" passed us, then was quite happy to carry on, it took her a few days to realise they weren't going to hurt her, and the way I gently coaxed her along when she stopped made her start to trust me.

    I live about 5 mins walk from 2 large greens, a soccer pitch, and a GAA pitch side by side, and we did some free running there, and she wanted to explore everything she could find. I use a dog whistle to call her, and for the moment its working, once she is far enough way to realise she might lose me, she answers the whistle. I think its a good idea she has a "sound" she will always recognise and come too, although when she matures I doubt the whistle would have any effect, and she certainly would not be off leash at that point anyway.

    Putting her to bed was a nightmare, she hates being put to bed, I still let her sleep indoors, on a bed near a radiator, but as soon as the lights go out she started braying and barking, scratching the glass windows in the door. Then one night last week I was going out of my mind with the barking and googled a few different ways to get dogs to sleep. What seems to be working for me is wrapping a windup clock in one of my old T-shirts and putting it under her bed.
    She jumped right on the spot above the clock and put her head down, so I gingerly left the room and went back upstairs, no sooner had my head hit the pillow and she barked again, and again... then silence !!

    That was the first full nights sleep I got since she came home lol, I will pick up a water bottle on my way home, and see if she likes it, thing is, she likes chewing everything and I'd be afraid she would work her way into the thing and leak it everywhere :P

    But hey, if it helps her get down for the night, it will be worth it.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭IK09


    Sky chewed on the water bottle aswell. But only for a while. She realised it had a purpose then. She'd really want some pair of fangs to be getting through a hot water bottle. If you leave in one of her chew toys with her she'll be less like to go at it. But it is something new to her and that means she'll sniff it, sit on it, play with it, chew it until she realises theres no satisfaction in it. Sky is really bad for the chewing, anything she can find she will chew. I dunno if your having this prob.

    I have just been giving her, her toys that she is allowed chew on, when she is chewing on something i dont want her at i.e. the hose. Also she was mouthing everything including my nephew, one way i stopped this was, when you are having a training session with her. Before you start, let her sniff your hand and realise that there is ham in it. then close a fist....she will bite and paw! Dont let her have the ham no matter what. If your using a clicker, when she settles and sits in front of you and makes eye contact, click (or praise) and give her the food. Do this maybe 3 or 4 times as the first item of training and your away with it. She'll realize that she wont get what she wants but mouthing, licking or biting.

    It might not sound important now. I figured it was fine since she wasnt biting, just nipping. Then a friend explained it quite simply to me. What if she does it to the wrong person...or a child! and she was just "playfully nipping" and they say she bit. Thats gonna end up being a swift journey to court to put her down. And i aint havin that!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Vince32


    yeah I have a couple of fang marks on my hand, but I dont let her get away with it, she gets a touch on the nose, because as you put it, its better this way, than paying to have her destroyed.

    Good Idea with with the clicker, I only use it when were learning a new command, and try not to use it when she thinks she understands, we have sit & down on command, and working on stay, which is really taxing because she never wants to leave me.

    I found the ham wasn't tempting enough for the princess, so I had to go and get her dried turkey heart treats, they have a big smelly smell, smell and she is crazy for them lol, I have to tear them up into managable parts for her, but her attention is on me all the time, and after just five 15 minutes training sessions we don't need them at all anymore, just the praise is enough.

    Although I will admit, I can't command under distraction yet, but unless there is a technique I've missed i'm sure it will come.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Vince32 wrote: »
    yeah I have a couple of fang marks on my hand, but I dont let her get away with it, she gets a touch on the nose, because as you put it, its better this way, than paying to have her destroyed.

    Good Idea with with the clicker, I only use it when were learning a new command, and try not to use it when she thinks she understands, we have sit & down on command, and working on stay, which is really taxing because she never wants to leave me.

    I found the ham wasn't tempting enough for the princess, so I had to go and get her dried turkey heart treats, they have a big smelly smell, smell and she is crazy for them lol, I have to tear them up into managable parts for her, but her attention is on me all the time, and after just five 15 minutes training sessions we don't need them at all anymore, just the praise is enough.

    Although I will admit, I can't command under distraction yet, but unless there is a technique I've missed i'm sure it will come.

    Please don't hit her on the nose. If she's mouthing and its too hard, then yelp, 'Ouch' and walk away, its how her mother and litter mates would teach her.


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