The 'Hampstead 4' Campus Res issue.

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manlad wrote: »

I mentioned this case as an example of judges not taking pity on students.

€500 euro is a big fine imposed on a student if they live in larkfield, considering hundreds of students share 2/3 tv's and a couple of students get singled out to pay the fine?

DCU RES also failed to comment on the case or get involved so the fines were imposed.

500 is a pretty standard fine. There's no need to take pity on anyone there because it's a tv license, and it's an initial judgement, an post had not fined them anything - this case has already been decided upon by campus res and the judge will decide that their fine is unreasonable. This is damage to property, they're two completely different things. Those students were fined because they had their own tvs in their bedrooms. I don't see why campus res would get involved, it's an issue between the occupant and an post.

thecornflake

Noodleworm wrote: »

I heard from one resident of the same building that they had to push past a crowd just to get to their apartment. I also heard that there was a lot more damage than just that door.

There's always more to the story then these lads will tell you. I assume they were first years ? No offence to first years but I wouldn't imagine people like this would last into second third or fourth years.

Sorry if I'm wrong on all this as I don't have twitter so I didn't see this campaign thing, does anyone have a link ?

Pygmalion

thecornflake wrote: »

There's always more to the story then these lads will tell you. I assume they were first years ? No offence to first years but I wouldn't imagine people like this would last into second third or fourth years

I believe they're all second years.
Athletic Therapy and Training; Sport Science and Health; Business Studies and Applied Language and Intercultural Studies.
I'll make no comments as to how easy it is to "last" in these courses >.>

I could be wrong though, this is just from a quick search of their names.

lithiumoxide

They sounds like plebs in fairness.

EDIT: Plebbery confirmed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRP8cFG6qxA

Pygmalion

lithiumoxide wrote: »

They sounds like plebs in fairness.

EDIT: Plebbery confirmed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRP8cFG6qxA

Aye, nothing of value was lost.

manlad

Just looking at the facebook page people that are criticising them are getting a lot of abuse. Just shows the maturity of the whole thing

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Kavrocks

lithiumoxide wrote: »

They sounds like plebs in fairness.

Sounds like they got what they deserved.

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manlad wrote: »

Just looking at the facebook page people that are criticising them are getting a lot of abuse. Just shows the maturity of the whole thing

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The people giving abuse have basically nothing to do with the 4 lads, and are taking the piss. Just shows how much research you do into stuff like this and how much cop on you have.

manlad

Laurel Tall Back wrote: »

The people giving abuse have basically nothing to do with the 4 lads, and are taking the piss. Just shows how much research you do into stuff like this and how much cop on you have.

I'll repeat my question from before, when are you getting evicted? I'm making the point by having that page there and people who are associated with it giving the abuse does not help their situation. And they are friends of the guys that are writing the insulting comments, to girls especially.

Look I can see your standing up for your mates, But I myself along with many other people hope these lads get no sympathy and sufficient punishment.

Kavrocks

manlad wrote: »

I'll repeat my question from before, when are you getting evicted?

Exactly what I was thinking. munkymanmatt what exactly is your vested interest in this? You aren't much better than the people giving abuse on the Facebook page when you do it here.

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My interest in this is that I'm absolutely sick of Campus Res extorting students like this. They are getting much more than sufficient punishment, that's the whole issue. Again, they have nothing to do with the 4 lads, they are simply trolling. Why is that so hard to understand? And how have I been abusive? I've simply proven you wrong and you don't like that.

manlad

Laurel Tall Back wrote: »

My interest in this is that I'm absolutely sick of Campus Res extorting students like this. They are getting much more than sufficient punishment, that's the whole issue. Again, they have nothing to do with the 4 lads, they are simply trolling. Why is that so hard to understand? And how have I been abusive? I've simply proven you wrong and you don't like that.

This has nothing to do with proving people wrong. Look I lived on the campus for 3 years and at times have felt exploited. I received an 80 euro fine when I drop the fire extinguisher in my house, it didn't go off but somehow all the pressure went. As well numerous lockouts when you have to pay to get back into your own house.

The point I'm making is that these guys signed a lease which lists all regulations fines etc. once this is signed you adhere to campus res rules. It's unfortunate that if it is the case that a random outsider did damage the door, but these guys left themselves open for trouble the minute they decided to have a party. Everyone knows security and campus res do not allow full blown parties, they don't mind small gatherings as long as the noise levels and crowd aren't out of control. This is up to the residents themselves to control.

Dcu campus res have some **** rules and sometimes too much authority but if these things wern't in place it would be an absolute free for all. Sometimes if you want to have massive parties all the time it's best to live off campus where you will only have to deal with one landlord and not a company.

Kavrocks

Laurel Tall Back wrote: »

My interest in this is that I'm absolutely sick of Campus Res extorting students like this. They are getting much more than sufficient punishment, that's the whole issue. Again, they have nothing to do with the 4 lads, they are simply trolling. Why is that so hard to understand? And how have I been abusive? I've simply proven you wrong and you don't like that.

Then take that up with DCU/SU/CRC or Campus Res.

I feel the punishment is fair and deserving and so do many others but likewise there are people who feel it is not fair and deserving. There is still no need to get so heated about it.

Its not hard to understand that they are trolling but as manlad said

manlad wrote: »

they are friends of the guys that are writing the insulting comments.

You have not proven anybody wrong, you have stated your opinion that is all. I've no problem with that.

I was referring to

Laurel Tall Back wrote: »

how much cop on you have.

Sod'o swords

That facebook page for them is ridiculous, never seen such tools on it in my life.

lithiumoxide

Agreed. You can't sign an agreement to follow certain rules, break those rules, and then cry about it.

These lads need to cop on and get a grip on reality.

Hauk

Throw them out. I'm sure there are plenty of people who need the room and will appreciate it. These people are not people I want to see with degrees.

Green Hand Guy

Hauk wrote: »

Throw them out. I'm sure there are plenty of people who need the room and will appreciate it. These people are not people I want to see with degrees.

Was pretty much going to come on to say this, but Hauk beat me to it. Plenty of people apply for campus res and don't get in, and I'm sure the majority of them would be more deserving than these knobs.

tonedef

Well they seem like a lovely bunch of lads......

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Pygmalion

tonedef wrote: »

Well they seem like a lovely bunch of lads......

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The text that precede the image in that post was stolen word for word from a post I made on reddit

Now I know how Lars Ulrich feels when someone downloads Master of Puppets.

Fiftysix

These guys are morons. If you have a party you are responsible for what happens, it is not hard to keep an eye on things at a party tbh. It must have taken some amount of work to destroy one of those doors, and I find it surprising that not one of them tried to stop what was happening.

The alternative to this fee is coming up against the disciplinary committee does anyone know if they have been called to it?

whatever they get they deserve it, it's time to grow up boys.

face1990

I had a little sympathy for them when I first heard about it. From seeing that facebook page they seem like total scum to be honest.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if they weren't evicted now, it'd be only a matter of time until they did something else to warrant it.

blahfckingblah

tonedef wrote: »

Well they seem like a lovely bunch of lads......

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just to clarify that wasn't any of "the 4" themselves it was just a group of well messers/losers/idiots.

on topic they ended up avoiding eviction, as for the fine i am unsure.

thecornflake

blahfckingblah wrote: »

on topic they ended up avoiding eviction, as for the fine i am unsure.

If so, they got off very easy. IMO they shouldn't be going to any college.