LIDL 21/11/2011. Snow Chains €29.99 & 5kg bag of Path & Driveway Salt €2.99.

Super-Rush · 14-11-2011 05:09AM #1

Description
Choose from sizes 70, 80,90 or 100

Includes: 1 pair of gloves, 4 replacement chain elements, 2 full snow chains and practical storage case

Features: High quality squared alloy steel links with galvanised connecting elements, Wheel-friendly tension and side chains with plastic coating, Tested as per Ö-Norm V5117 (Austrian standard), Permitted speed limit 50km/h (30mph), User-friendly clamping chain construction

Optimal Safety On Snow Or Ice

Up To 17" Wheel Rim Diameter

Suitable for valid standard dimensions and wheel rims as per DIN & ETRTO (European standard). Please check packaging for tyre sizes. Please only use when weather conditions dictate (snowing etc.) for your safety.

Salt.

Hopefully we won't need to use them but would be handy to have them in the boot just in case.

long_b · 14-11-2011 07:21AM

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Choose from sizes 70, 80,90 or 100

Any idea how to tell which size you need ?

SpiceWeasel · 14-11-2011 10:58AM

Thought snow chains were illegal on irish roads? Damage to the surface of the road or some such? Can anyone confirm?

vibe666 · 14-11-2011 11:18AM

SpiceWeasel wrote: »

Thought snow chains were illegal on irish roads? Damage to the surface of the road or some such? Can anyone confirm?

it's illegal to damage the road (obviously) but not illegal to use snow chains in the appropriate conditions (i.e. on packed snow).

if you go tearing off down the road in full snow chains when it gets frosty and end up smashing up the tarmac, you can expect a knock at your door from the garda, but as long as you only use them in the proper conditions you'll be fine.

bmaxi · 14-11-2011 11:52AM

vibe666 wrote: »

if you go tearing off down the road in full snow chains when it gets frosty and end up smashing up the tarmac, you can expect a knock at your door from the garda, but as long as you only use them in the proper conditions you'll be fine.

Maybe on an episode of The Big Bang Theory, in one of Sheldon's alternate universes.
Trucks have been tearing up the roads for years and I've yet to hear of Gardaí arriving at the door of any haulier. The only offences punishable under Irish motoring law do not comprise Gardaí expending any energy.

vibe666 · 14-11-2011 12:16PM

bmaxi wrote: »

Maybe on an episode of The Big Bang Theory, in one of Sheldon's alternate universes.

okay, so *in theory* they could come knocking at your door.

Hogzy · 14-11-2011 12:46PM

This could very well be a retarded question but i have never used snow chains before so go easy on me...

Do you need to Jack up the car to put these snow chains on?

Super-Rush · 14-11-2011 12:55PM

vibe666 · 14-11-2011 12:57PM

no, most of them can be installed with the car stationary, although some may require you to roll forward a bit once you have them almost all the way on, then you can finish off tightening them. most of them can be done without moving the car though.

if you were to buy them for use here, the best way to use them would be to keep them in case of emergencies and to wait until you actually get stuck before putting them on and then take them off again once you've unstuck yourself.

WalterMitty · 14-11-2011 01:01PM

could i drive the sally gap when its full of snow with these?

Hogzy · 14-11-2011 01:02PM

vibe666 wrote: »

no, most of them can be installed with the car stationary, although some may require you to roll forward a bit once you have them almost all the way on, then you can finish off tightening them. most of them can be done without moving the car though.

if you were to buy them for use here, the best way to use them would be to keep them in case of emergencies and to wait until you actually get stuck before putting them on and then take them off again once you've unstuck yourself.

Thats what i plan on doing. There is a hill at the entrance to our estate which is completely inaccessible when it snows. Id just be keeping them in the boot until i get to the hill.

CJhaughey · 14-11-2011 01:23PM

WalterMitty wrote: »

could i drive the sally gap when its full of snow with these?

Your car will probably be limited by ground clearance rather than traction with chains on.
No is the answer.
Oh and see the maximum permitted speed limit with these on @50Kph?
Thats not just for fun, if you speed and the chain comes loose, it will make shyte of the wing.
Seriously its not a pretty sight to see what happens when they come loose at high speed.

touts · 14-11-2011 01:27PM

WalterMitty wrote: »

could i drive the sally gap when its full of snow with these?

I wouldn't. These look more like get you out of an emergency chains rather than the heavy duty all season ones they use in places that get real snow. I'm going to buy a pair (partly because they are cheaper than snow socks) but I wouldn't risk my life on them and going up the mountains in snow that is what you are doing.

Please Kill Me · 14-11-2011 01:37PM

long_b wrote: »

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Any idea how to tell which size you need ?

I would think it goes by the profile on your tyre? eg 185 70 R16, then you need a 70? Or am I wrong?

SpiceWeasel wrote: »

Thought snow chains were illegal on irish roads? Damage to the surface of the road or some such? Can anyone confirm?

Damage to the roads?? They're in bits anyway from tractors and over loaded trucks!!!! How could they be more damaged than they are?

CJhaughey wrote: »

Oh and see the maximum permitted speed limit with these on @50Kph?
Thats not just for fun, if you speed and the chain comes loose, it will make shyte of the wing.
Seriously its not a pretty sight to see what happens when they come loose at high speed.

Absolutely. I think the idea is to get you to your destination safely and not quickly. It makes sense, jeez can you imagine the damage if they came off?

elsparko · 14-11-2011 01:38PM

SpiceWeasel wrote: »

Thought snow chains were illegal on irish roads? Damage to the surface of the road or some such? Can anyone confirm?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, damage the roads.. in THIS country!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha, does it make a difference when you sh!t on sh!t??

uck51js9zml2yt · 14-11-2011 02:16PM

WalterMitty wrote: »

could i drive the sally gap when its full of snow with these?

Of couse you could drive it...but you might end up taking the short cut to the bottom if you did drive

Do-more · 14-11-2011 02:39PM

long_b wrote: »

I
Any idea how to tell which size you need ?

Each snow chain size will have a list on the box of what tyre size that size snow chain is suitable for. Each snow chain size is suitable for multiple different tyre sizes.

I don't know for sure but I think that the snow chain sizing is pretty similar between brands having this type of sizing designation so if you check your tyre sizes on this snow chain selector you should be able to narrow down the likely size you need.

Note this selector also has sizes such as 65, 75 etc. which Lidl won't be stocking.

scudzilla · 14-11-2011 05:28PM

Cheers OP, just bought 3 bags of Salt, 2 for the gaff and 1 to keep in the boot

phasers · 14-11-2011 07:15PM

scudzilla wrote: »

Cheers OP, just bought 3 bags of Salt, 2 for the gaff and 1 to keep in the boot

The deal doesn't start for another week, do you have some kind of inside man in lidl?

scudzilla · 14-11-2011 09:48PM

phasers wrote: »

The deal doesn't start for another week, do you have some kind of inside man in lidl?

Nope, went into Lidl in Coolock today and picked up the salt, had loads if it there, loadsa car gear too, didn't spot the chains but wasn't looking for them.

byte · 15-11-2011 12:23AM

Yeah, the salt was in the Lidl in Donegal Town over the weekend, albeit without pricing. That said, due to the construction work, maybe it went on the floor before intended, due to lack of store space atm.

Stevo105 · 15-11-2011 09:32AM

There will be zero snow this year.

vibe666 · 15-11-2011 09:44AM

Stevo105 wrote: »

There will be zero snow this year.

there is also zero chance you can say that with any real degree of accuracy.

in any case, snow chains (despite their name) are useful in other conditions too. if you ever plan on driving through a muddy field (festival season anyone?) or a sandy beach, chains will get you through without getting stuck.

olliewexford · 15-11-2011 10:24AM

hi
it says "Choose from sizes 70, 80,90 or 100" mes a little confused?
and later says Up To 17" Wheel Rim Diameter
100 mm is 3.9370078740200003 inchs

height of the tyre wall?
can't figure out the conversion ?

oh missed that link from Do more i get the size thing now .eg mine is size 90 for 205 55 16

Italia · 15-11-2011 12:54PM

I bought a set (6mm chain links) in Italy 2yrs ago - best buy I ever made.

Takes approx 3min per tyre to fit and about 5 min to remove (mainly because of the packed crap behind the tyre). Plus practice makes perfect and reduces time.
Came in a nice plastic carry case. Kept in boot takes up almost no space.
When everyone was parked or sliding all over the place on the M50 carpark, I was going about my merry way on the back roads at a blistering 20km/h.... virtually zero traffic.
Was actually stopped by the Gards (traffic) - all they wanted, was to know where they could buy a set for themselves

The only downside is having to take them off when there is no snow and back on when you get areas of snow. IMHO a small price to pay.

muincav · 15-11-2011 02:16PM

elsparko wrote: »

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, damage the roads.. in THIS country!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha, does it make a difference when you sh!t on sh!t??

More of a chance that you may damage the snow chains with all the damn Potholes....
and as for using salt on your drivewa,,, it will be bye bye driveway as the salt eats it away...:mad:

Daibheid · 16-11-2011 05:54PM

If you're buying these for an SUV or 4WD you should be buying them specifically for 4WD vehicles (Jeez I sound like a Garda!) Seriously, tyre sizes alone are enough to size snowchains only where you're buying for a standard car.