Diesel Vs Petrol prices

Captain Slow IRL

The oh was talking to me there and got a fill of diesel on her way to work, she was on the lookout at local prices (north Mayo) when she noticed 2 of the local forecourts advertising petrol and diesel at the same price.

Anyone notice the same?

Sobanek

EU is imposing a rise in the Diesel Duty, effective January 1st.

johnos1984

Sobanek wrote: »

EU is imposing a rise in the Diesel Duty, effective January 1st.

Are the garages being extra efficient in rising the price now?

Lord Nikon

Forecourt in the Blanchardstown area, Dublin. 147.7 for both petrol and diesel.

Sobanek

johnos1984 wrote: »

Are the garages being extra efficient in rising the price now?

Yup.

145.9 petrol, 146.9 diesel, Topaz in Newbridge.

michael999999

Diesel is actually a cent dearer here in Listowel.

EPM

147.9 for both Topaz, Commons Road in Cork.

Jagle

Sobanek wrote: »

EU is imposing a rise in the Diesel Duty, effective January 1st.

source?

and any idea why?

-Corkie-

Diesel always rises this time of year due to the surge in home heating oil usage. They are manufactured in the same way/process.

johnos1984

:mad:

Can't get a ****ing break in this bloody country.

The price never dropped at the pumps over the fast few months when oil prices were down and now the ****ing price is going up again.

Sick of this ****ing place :mad:

Sobanek

Jagle wrote: »

source?

and any idea why?

Can't find it, but it was quite a topic around a month ago.

Can't get a ****ing break in this bloody country.

The price never dropped at the pumps over the fast few months when oil prices were down and now the ****ing price is going up again.

Sick of this ****ing place

Do what I'm going to do, planning to move to the States after college

wiger toods

is there even any advantage in having a diesel car anymore? My brother was saying the other day that unless your doing mental milage, they're pretty much the same now.

johnos1984

johnos1984 wrote: »

:mad:

Can't get a ****ing break in this bloody country.

The price never dropped at the pumps over the fast few months when oil prices were down and now the ****ing price is going up again.

Sick of this ****ing place :mad:

ah john, cheer up, tis only money.

TOMP

Watch out for more petrol/diesel price rises in budget in 3/4 weeks time, carbon tax increase is on the cards

Sobanek

wiger toods wrote: »

is there even any advantage in having a diesel car anymore? My brother was saying the other day that unless your doing mental milage, they're pretty much the same now.

Well, let's do a quick calculation.

Let's say you do 8000kms in a year

VW Passat 2.0 FSI Saloon
€1050 road tax per annum
Average: 8l/100km
€933.76 in fuel only.
Total running cost in a year: €1983,76 in fuel + tax (not counting other expenses)

VW Passat 2.0 TDI Saloon
€302 road tax per annum
Average: 7.2l/100km
€846.15 in fuel only
Total running cost in a year: €1148.15

So yes, it's still an advantage.

johnos1984

RoverJames wrote: »

ah john, cheer up, tis only money.

I'm feeling it at the minute James, just having a wanky time of it

NIMAN

johnos1984 wrote: »

:mad:

Can't get a ****ing break in this bloody country.

The price never dropped at the pumps over the fast few months when oil prices were down and now the ****ing price is going up again.

Sick of this ****ing place :mad:

Calm down, every country is putting up the price of fuel. Its not just Ireland so get over it.

johnos1984

Sobanek wrote: »

VW Passat 2.0 FSI Saloon

Can these even be bought new?

I'd imagine they are special order only therefore it's a poor example

Sobanek

johnos1984 wrote: »

Can these even be bought new?

I'd imagine they are special order only therefore it's a poor example

Can you buy anything new with a 2 litre petrol engine nowadays anyway? :pac:

wiger toods

Sobanek wrote: »

Well, let's do a quick calculation.

Let's say you do 8000kms in a year

VW Passat 2.0 FSI Saloon
€1050 road tax per annum
Average: 8l/100km
€933.76 in fuel only.
Total running cost in a year: €1983,76 in fuel + tax (not counting other expenses)

VW Passat 2.0 TDI Saloon
€302 road tax per annum
Average: 7.2l/100km
€846.15 in fuel only
Total running cost in a year: €1148.15

So yes, it's still an advantage.

Sorry if i sound stupid, but how come the road tax is so much cheaper on the diesel? im not well up on these things you see.:o that's mad!

Sobanek

wiger toods wrote: »

Sorry if i sound stupid, but how come the road tax is so much cheaper on the diesel? im not well up on these things you see.:o that's mad!

CO2 emissions:
2.0 FSI produces 206g/km
2.0 TDI produces 153g/km

Vego

they usually up the price of diesel to off set the unleaded

Sobanek

Vego wrote: »

they usually up the price of diesel to off set the unleaded

132.9 unleaded
126.9 diesel

14th of Nov, 2010 prices on the same station that wants 145.9 for unleaded and 146.9 for diesel today.

wiger toods

Sobanek wrote: »

CO2 emissions:
2.0 FSI produces 206g/km
2.0 TDI produces 153g/km

oh right, but that wouldnt apply to older cars, would it? say an 8 year old merc? i only ask as i was thinking of getting a C220 diesel, but when i found out the tax was going to be E800+ a year, i nearly died. thats crazy like.

Vego

petrol station near me 1.50 unleaded 1.42 diesel sooo up diesel bring down unleaded

Sobanek

wiger toods wrote: »

oh right, but that wouldnt apply to older cars, would it? say an 8 year old merc? i only ask as i was thinking of getting a C220 diesel, but when i found out the tax was going to be E800+ a year, i nearly died. thats crazy like.

This applies only to cars register on or after 1st July 2008.

Squall19

Sobanek wrote: »

CO2 emissions:
2.0 FSI produces 206g/km
2.0 TDI produces 153g/km

Who buys a new 2.0 litre turbo petrol these days?

Very few.

From my experience you would want a very heavy foot to be getting 7.2l/100km from a 2.0 diesel passat more like 5.5l/100km.

Small petrols are rubbish on fuel as well, I had a 1.6 Focus for a rental car for the week in germany and with normal driving I got 7.4l/100km for the week according to the sheet sixt sent me, while the much bigger and heavier 2.4 diesel Volvo s60 with 100bhp more and an Automatic done 7.1l/100km.

Sobanek

Squall19 wrote: »

Who buys a new 2.0 litre turbo petrol these days?

Very few.

From my experience you would want a very heavy foot to be getting 7.2l/100km from a 2.0 diesel passat more like 5.5l/100km.

Small petrols are rubbish on fuel as well, I had a 1.6 Focus for a rental car for the week in germany and with normal driving I got 7.4l/100km for the week according to the sheet sixt sent me, while the much bigger and heavier 2.4 diesel Volvo s60 with 100bhp more and an Automatic done 7.1l/100km.

5.5l/100km is possible... On the motorway, in the 6th gear, doing 100kph.
7.2l/100km is the average consumption (city+motorway)

C4Kid

I was kind of hoping they would increase diesel to subsidize petrol so it stays below the €1.50 mark.

YouTookMyName

wiger toods wrote: »

is there even any advantage in having a diesel car anymore? My brother was saying the other day that unless your doing mental milage, they're pretty much the same now.

Diesel cars are only ment for mental mileage.

Squall19

C4Kid wrote: »

I was kind of hoping they would increase diesel to subsidize petrol so it stays below the €1.50 mark.

Diesel is used by every haulage company, business, transport company etc.

They shouldn't touch diesel.

If its costing Tesco's haulage company a few cent more a litre to transport goods to shops, then its going to cost a few cent more for bread, milk, water etc, as they are going to pass the costs on to Tesco and Tesco will pass it on to ous.

A few cent by thousands upon thousands of litres of diesel is huge money.

chinwag

Example shown is for 8,000 kms a year. But surely this is ideal mileage for a petrol engine? Also, the purchase price of each car (petrol/diesel) is not mentioned - this would be a significant factor in cost difference - but it is omitted in the costings.

C4Kid

We are shooting Ourselves in the foot, Everyone whos buying diesel because (they think their saving money) is forcing the price to rise because of higher demand. This in turn makes the costs of goods rise for Everyone. Circles and roundabouts idea, Your gonna end up paying for it somehow.

It's almost like the housing boom, we all see it coming but We're still gonna buy into it because the done thing and we'll worry about it when it happens. No doubt the haulage companies will be up in arms after the budget.

Bandara

Derv has been at an artificial low for a good while now due to the proliferation of washed fuel driving the price down as the clean stations are trying to keep in touch (even though its impossible), the margin on Derv has been non existant for close to a year now, which is obviously unsustainable.

Dervs correct retail price at the moment should actually be higher than unl for the past month. We price on a weekly/two weekly basis in the Republic whereas the UK do it on a daily basis. Hence why the North has had retail derv more expensive than unl for the past 3 weeks or so.

Also the Home Heating demand always puts a few cents on derv as they are derived from the same base products as far as I know.

Bottom line is your going to see derv overtake unl very very soon everywhere and stay that way until March next year.

You may all now shoot the messenger.

Top Dog

Have noticed the price of diesel creeping up slowly over the last 2 weeks, by a cent here and there which no-one pays much attention to. But after 2 weeks now the difference in price between the diesel compared to the unleaded has shrunk to near non-existant. I spotted the same station as EPM this evening, 147.9/l for both the diesel and the unleaded. The station I use most often (on North ring in Cork city) still has a 3c difference between the two, with the diesel still being the cheaper.

Shopping around has to be done these days. I paid 142.9/l tonight for my fuel, 1km down the road it was 5c/l dearer. On a full tank thats €4. Doesn't sound like much, but when you're filling your tank on a weekly basis it soon adds up!

C4Kid

Top Dog wrote: »

Have noticed the price of diesel creeping up slowly over the last 2 weeks, by a cent here and there which no-one pays much attention to. But after 2 weeks now the difference in price between the diesel compared to the unleaded has shrunk to near non-existant. I spotted the same station as EPM this evening, 147.9/l for both the diesel and the unleaded. The station I use most often (on North ring in Cork city) still has a 3c difference between the two, with the diesel still being the cheaper.

Shopping around has to be done these days. I paid 142.9/l tonight for my fuel, 1km down the road it was 5c/l dearer. On a full tank thats €4. Doesn't sound like much, but when you're filling your tank on a weekly basis it soon adds up!

Texaco in Douglas has 149.9 for both petrol and diesel, crazy it's always expensive there!

Top Dog

C4Kid wrote: »

Texaco in Douglas has 149.9 for both petrol and diesel, crazy it's always expensive there!

:eek::eek::eek:

C4Kid

Earlier tonight I passed two Topaz stations in Cork and both had diesel 1c more then petrol:eek:

It had dropped by 1c less then petrol for about a day and then equalised again and now it's dearer then petrol.

Captain Slow IRL

It's the same with the 2 stations I mentioned in the first post as well, both 1c dearer than petrol/litre.

Rodin

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Omeath,+Ireland&hl=en&ll=54.084368,-6.253538&spn=0.025879,0.084543&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.768112,86.572266&vpsrc=6&hnear=Omeath,+County+Louth,+Ireland&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.084072,-6.253124&panoid=AZfasdQsNLuJPq-NO4i_6Q&cbp=12,336.53,,0,-9

Oh for the old days!

And they give 20% on the sterling too! Oh to be a border fox.

Honey-ec

chinwag wrote: »

Example shown is for 8,000 kms a year.

Ah, if only! I do 43,700km a year commuting only; that's without even touching the car at weekends.

I currently spend a quarter of my net income on diesel. I'm genuinely beginning to wonder at what point it will no longer be worth my while commuting.

Blazer

still about 4c cheaper down in limerick...
It's a complete joke at this stage....hopefully libya get back to full production within a few months and we see prices dropping....

of course the conspriacy guys would suspect the government are quite happy to keep prices high to bring in more revenue...or another crisis will happen somewhere else to keep it high.....but then again you'd have to crazy to believe that......or would you? :eek:

Top Dog

Just wait till the budget. Bit of a VAT increase, bit more on excise duty ... may as well throw in a bit more carbon tax too ... won't be too long before we've shot past €1.60/l for diesel

C4Kid

Top Dog wrote: »

Just wait till the budget. Bit of a VAT increase, bit more on excise duty ... may as well throw in a bit more carbon tax too ... won't be too long before we've shot past €1.60/l for diesel

The tax new carbon tax on petrol will probably be more then diesel too as they struggle to continue subsidizing diesel.

Just got the weekly fuelcard price update.

From tomorrow petrol is 146.48l and Diesel will be 148.81l

ofcork

Got petrol last night on the north ring road in cork 143.9 and their diesel was 145.9.

Top Dog

ofcork wrote: »

Got petrol last night on the north ring road in cork 143.9 and their diesel was 145.9.

If it was O'Callaghans, the diesel is 144.9 today

ofcork

No the one around the corner although both seem to match their prices.

alias no.9

C4Kid wrote: »

The tax new carbon tax on petrol will probably be more then diesel too as they struggle to continue subsidizing diesel.

It ain't a carbon tax if it cost more per litre on petrol than diesel, diesel produces nearly 15% more CO2 per litre than petrol.

IsaacWunder

Sc@recrow wrote: »

still about 4c cheaper down in limerick...

Er, no. All the filling stations in Dooradoyle are either the same for petrol/diesel or 1c cheaper for diesel.

Basq

Coming home from getting my Friday night Chinese (person.. not meal.. obviously!), and noticed 2 seperate "service stations" (an Excol and an Esso) had their diesel priced at 4c more than petrol.

I thought that's gotta be a mistake.. but even Pumps.ie has a reading down for yesterday as:

Petrol: Excol, Mail Coach Road, Sligo - 143.9 - 17th Nov
Diesel: Excol, Mail Coach Road, Sligo - 147.9 - 17th Nov

Any reason why the sharp jump or has there gotta be a balls-
up somewhere?