Makes me sick!

Balfie

Just seen a video of when a Jeep rammed a Garda car at halloween in Ballyfermot! Makes me sick that people were actually cheering that the car got rammed, Someone could easily have been killed and people are cheering? Respect or No Respect for the Garda, Uniform or no Uniform. They are people! People with familys! Society sometimes makes me sick!

Video can be seen here

booboo88

unfortunately they are scum everywhere. These people have no respect for life

MrJoeSoap

"Scum, subhuman scum"

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/just-14-gardai-on-duty-during-night-of-attacks-2927107.html

woodoo

Kip of a place anyway

Balfie

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

"Scum, subhuman scum"

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/just-14-gardai-on-duty-during-night-of-attacks-2927107.html

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Only 14 gardai were on duty in a west Dublin district on Halloween night when violent organised disturbances resulted in Garda Linda Bury almost being killed and four other officers being injured.

Previously, during flashpoint Halloween nights, there had been a full complement of 40 gardai from Ballyfermot station on duty. But this year no overtime was allowed -- despite the fact that trouble was widely anticipated by gardai on the ground.

Gardai are now calling for mandatory imprisonment of people who assault officers or other members of the emergency services.

Cases involving assaults on gardai are climbing rapidly but most are dealt with by way of suspended sentence or -- in a case before Dublin District Court last week about two gardai who were bitten, drawing blood -- the Probation Act.

Mandatory imprisonment for assaulting police officers is in place in many jurisdictions but not here.

Gardai in Dublin said last week that it was only a matter of time before a garda was killed. In one station alone there has been one very serious threat to the life of a detective and other gardai have been followed home by known serious criminals.

Gardai are also investigating whether or not there is a link between a violent criminal gang in the Clondalkin area and a pipe-bomb explosion at the home of the parents of a garda detective -- whose brother is the RTE presenter Brian Ormonde -- last Sunday night.

The garda whose parents' home was attacked was closely involved in the arrest and successful conviction of the head of the gang three years ago. Another member of the gang was released from prison recently.

The front of the family home was damaged but no one was injured in the blast.

Colleagues said last week that Gda Bury had a "miraculous" escape as the 4X4 vehicle that struck her also hit a tree. The root ball of the tree came out of the ground and provided a barrier between her and the underside of the stolen Nissan Patrol. Otherwise she would have been crushed, they said.

Colleagues at first thought Gda Bury had been killed and seven of them managed to lift the vehicle and pull her free. She was described as looking "lifeless" and one of her colleagues present was deeply traumatised.

There is very considerable anger among gardai about the events and what is seen as a severe lack of resources allocated to cover the Cherry Orchard area even though there were signs of trouble ahead of last Monday night.

A number of bogus calls were received at the station earlier in the day, one claiming there was a man with a gun in Cherry Orchard.

"They were testing to see what our response would be so they would have an idea of what resources we would have that night," one officer said.

As it was, there were two cars available to patrol the Cherry Orchard area, a Ford Mondeo with close to 300,000 miles on the clock and a small Toyota Yaris which was rammed by another 4X4 vehicle shortly before the incident in which Gda Bury was struck by the second vehicle.

One of the gardai in the Yaris was injured and three others were hurt during the night of sustained and targeted violence against gardai.

Gda Bury was treated for cuts and injuries in St James's Hospital and was able to be discharged last Tuesday.

There was no garda public order unit response available in the area. The public order unit on duty in Dublin was deployed in Finglas where anticipated trouble failed to materialise.

The trouble in Ballyfermot was organised by local criminals who, gardai say, are intent on setting up a no-go area in Cherry Orchard.

The area has a history of violence towards both law-abiding residents and gardai. On Halloween 1995 gardai learned of another concerted attempt to kill or injure gardai and they mounted a major exercise involving up to a hundred gardai.

They also enlisted the help of Dublin City Council to put up concrete bollards on roads around Cherry Orchard to reduce dangerous driving by joyriders in stolen cars.

The criminals involved had hijacked a JCB digger with the intention of ramming and wrecking garda vehicles. However, this was intercepted and a local criminal arrested.

The lack of garda resources last Monday night is the result of a nationwide ban on overtime which has resulted in severe restrictions in policing services -- up to and including murder investigations.

Gardai in Dublin said that overtime had been available for "anyone who wants to work" at Halloween because of the tradition of violent disorder towards gardai and the emergency services but this was stopped this year because of cutbacks.

The combination of resource restrictions and mounting attacks on gardai is causing widespread concern in the force, particularly in busy Dublin stations in high crime areas. Several of these had been anticipating violence last Monday night.

In one northside station gardai were said to be on edge on both Sunday and Monday night expecting violence towards gardai because of the lack of extra resources.

One officer said there should now be mandatory imprisonment for anyone who attacks any member of the emergency services, including fire and ambulance crews who have also come under attack in the city.

MugMugs

Camera lighting is terrible.

phill106

10 years minimum for assaulting an officer sounds like a good start. None of this suspended sentence crap either.

bitemybanger

the car is the real victim in this.

MrJoeSoap

phill106 wrote: »

10 years minimum for assaulting an officer sounds like a good start. None of this suspended sentence crap either.

The people who murdered Detective Garda Jerry McCabe in cold blood got in or around that. The state will always side with the scumbags, for some reason.

Geekness1234

How many threads is this about scumbags now?

phasers

All I see is some rear lights on a car.

Gardai are also investigating whether or not there is a link between a violent criminal gang in the Clondalkin area and a pipe-bomb explosion at the home of the parents of a garda detective -- whose brother is the RTE presenter Brian Ormonde -- last Sunday night.

What the hell is the relevance of this? The Indo is a pile of ****

MrJoeSoap

Geekness1234 wrote: »

How many threads is this about scumbags now?

They just keep giving and giving... AH would fall apart without them.

El Weirdo

phasers wrote: »

All I see is some rear lights on a car.



What the hell is the relevance of this? The Indo is a pile of ****

Every story needs a celeb angle in the Indo.

Biggins

This is what made me sick today: http://news.yahoo.com/teen-arrested-rape-5-old-mcdonalds-play-area-223059528.html

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-arrested-rape-5-old-mcdonalds-play-area-223059528.html

Solnskaya

Outrageous. Gardai V Scumbag shocker. I was shocked Joe.. Local people were shocked. "It's normally a very quiet area Joe, people here were shocked". Nearly died is a bit like "a little bit pregnant". Gardai in "we want more money Joe" shocker. Add in a few other outraged utterances and trite denunciations, give the Guards a few new mondeos, etc etc.

galwayrush

Geekness1234 wrote: »

How many threads is this about scumbags now?

Less proportional to scumbags in society.

thee glitz

phill106 wrote: »

10 years minimum for assaulting an officer sounds like a good start.

That seems a little harsh. I'd say 2.5 years+.

None of this suspended sentence crap either.

No, that's only pretend justice.

MungBean

Cases involving assaults on gardai are climbing rapidly but most are dealt with by way of suspended sentence or

Thats the problem, fcukin judges thinking suspended sentences have an effect. Its a get out of jail free card and scumbags know that even if they are caught nothing will happen. State pays judge and solicitors a fortune to tell a scumbag he's not going to jail.

thee glitz

MungBean wrote: »

Thats the problem, fcukin judges thinking suspended sentences have an effect. Its a get out of jail free card and scumbags know that even if they are caught nothing will happen. State pays judge and solicitors a fortune to tell a scumbag he's not going to jail.

What's with all these cases where defendants are brought up in front of the beak with 50+ convictions... what are they even doing out on the streets

booboo88

MungBean wrote: »

Thats the problem, fcukin judges thinking suspended sentences have an effect. Its a get out of jail free card and scumbags know that even if they are caught nothing will happen. State pays judge and solicitors a fortune to tell a scumbag he's not going to jail.

they pay alot of people a fortune for doing jack, they even pay themselves a fortune for doing jack

Bosco boy

bitemybanger wrote: »

the car is the real victim in this.

Being a moderator obviously dosent require intelligence!

paddyandy

If People care enough about Law & Order they will get Law & Order.

Pace2008

Biggins wrote: »

This is what made me sick today: http://news.yahoo.com/teen-arrested-rape-5-old-mcdonalds-play-area-223059528.html

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-arrested-rape-5-old-mcdonalds-play-area-223059528.html

This is what has me sick today.

Turtyturd

phill106 wrote: »

10 years minimum for assaulting an officer sounds like a good start. None of this suspended sentence crap either.

And an equal sentence for any officer caught assaulting a citizen.

Leeg17

Bosco boy wrote: »

Being a moderator obviously dosent require intelligence!

I disagwee with dis highly.

Less of the mod-bashing thanks.

boomkatalog

My brother is a fireman in Cork, the number of morons that stop him doing his job, pelting stones at them or the jeep, standing in the way, setting another fire right down from the one they're putting out...

All they're doing is making it less likely they'll get the chance to put out a fire before someone gets hurt.

fat__tony

Well Ballyfermot is populated mostly by lowlife so what do you expect?

Micky Dolenz

It's a disgrace Joe.

MagicSean

Turtyturd wrote: »

And an equal sentence for any officer caught assaulting a citizen.

Do you not read the papers? 3 years for a Garda assaulting a fella leaving no injury. Whereas a colleague of mine had his nose broken last year by a fella with a long list of convictions who only got six months.

Turtyturd

MagicSean wrote: »

Do you not read the papers? 3 years for a Garda assaulting a fella leaving no injury. Whereas a colleague of mine had his nose broken last year by a fella with a long list of convictions who only got six months.

So it's ok as long as you leave no injury?...is this the typical Garda attitude?

MagicSean

Turtyturd wrote: »

So it's ok as long as you leave no injury?...is this the typical Garda attitude?

Ah i see. You're just gonna make stuff up now.

Turtyturd

MagicSean wrote: »

Ah i see. You're just gonna make stuff up now.

Question marks = questions.

charlemont

These people unfortunately don't know any better...
There is a lot of issues involved here, Dysfunctional Families ?? Education system doesn't seem to fit ?? Weak Courts Service ?? No trust of Gardaí ??

You may be sure a lot of those lads will snap out of it and get on with their life's but the rest of them will be always be causing trouble.

charlemont

thee glitz wrote: »

What's with all these cases where defendants are brought up in front of the beak with 50+ convictions... what are they even doing out on the streets

Money !!! The legal profession makes a fortune from these people...

booboo88 wrote: »

they pay alot of people a fortune for doing jack, they even pay themselves a fortune for doing jack

Its all about the money..

Fran1985

Balfie wrote: »

Just seen a video of when a Jeep rammed a Garda car at halloween in Ballyfermot! Makes me sick that people were actually cheering that the car got rammed, Someone could easily have been killed and people are cheering? Respect or No Respect for the Garda, Uniform or no Uniform. They are people! People with familys! Society sometimes makes me sick!

Video can be seen here

by showing us this all you're doin is giving some nob head, a big head as his youtube hits go up and up. Guards should just leave them to it. let them wreck their own area like fools

Bosco boy

Leeg17 wrote: »

Bosco boy wrote: »

Being a moderator obviously dosent require intelligence!

I disagwee with dis highly.

Less of the mod-bashing thanks.[/

I have no problem with intelligent mods!

saywhatyousee

phill106 wrote: »

10 years minimum for assaulting an officer sounds like a good start. None of this suspended sentence crap either.

Should be the same for gardai who assault members of the public and none of that suspended crap either.

Richard Hillman

You always hear people from these skanger areas say that they have nothing do and thats why they have to go out and rob cars etc:rolleyes: They have more to do in these skanger areas than in places like Killiney and Dalkey. You dont see joyriding around those areas

Doc Ruby

charlemont wrote: »

These people unfortunately don't know any better...
There is a lot of issues involved here, Dysfunctional Families ?? Education system doesn't seem to fit ?? Weak Courts Service ?? No trust of Gardaí ??

You may be sure a lot of those lads will snap out of it and get on with their life's but the rest of them will be always be causing trouble.

I blame the prison system myself, I mean what sort of parenting skills do you think a fella whose main life experience has been taking it up the jacksie to avoid being shivved inside will bring home? Most of these are third and fourth generation scumbags, on the receiving end for decades.

marcsignal

phill106 wrote: »

10 years minimum for assaulting an officer sounds like a good start. None of this suspended sentence crap either.

Large field, electric fence, wooden huts, intolerant guards with dogs, 3 basic meals, and hard work for 15hrs per day....

...and a cooler..... a BIG one.

Stocking Drinks Whiskey

thee glitz wrote: »

That seems a little harsh. I'd say 2.5 years+.

10 years is generous in my opinion.

The reason these scum do **** like this is because they just don't care, they have no concept of decency or morality.

When people won't voluntarily behave all that is left is to put the fear into them, deterrents, without morality, it's only the consequences these people fear and I think we should make them **** their pants at the very thought of doing things like this.

Bosco boy

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

It's a disgrace Joe.

You're a Funny guy micky!

stovelid

Bosco boy wrote: »

You're a Funny guy micky!

Unlike yourself.

ellegee

fat__tony wrote: »

Well Ballyfermot is populated mostly by lowlife so what do you expect?

What a ridiculous thing to say. And also not true.

CrazyRabbit

fat__tony wrote: »

Well Ballyfermot is populated mostly by lowlife so what do you expect?

A small percentage of the population are lowlifes. But they are extremely dangerous, disruptive & violent. Most people there are decent.

My mum lives in Ballyfermot, and she's terrified to leave the house once it gets dark. She also has to chain the bins to the railings & chain the front gates to prevent the scum from 'hiding stolen cars in plain site' in the garden.

Everyone knows who the scum are (including the Gardai). But nobody can do anything about it. And civilians who take action end up being attacked or have their cars/homes torched. My neighbour was suspected to 'ratting' to the Gardai and her car was set alight last Christmas eve. The heat shattered the front window and set the living room alight. There were 4 young kids in the house at the time.

One solution.....shoot to kill. Anyone engaged in mass violent behaviour should be shot on sight. They are a cancer and won't be missed.

Ellis Dee

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

The people who murdered Detective Garda Jerry McCabe in cold blood got in or around that. The state will always side with the scumbags, for some reason.

As far as I recall, no one was convicted of murdering him. Several were found guilty of manslaughter and have served their sentences. :cool:

MagicSean

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

A small percentage of the population are lowlifes. But they are extremely dangerous, disruptive & violent. Most people there are decent.

My mum lives in Ballyfermot, and she's terrified to leave the house once it gets dark. She also has to chain the bins to the railings & chain the front gates to prevent the scum from 'hiding stolen cars in plain site' in the garden.

Everyone knows who the scum are (including the Gardai). But nobody can do anything about it. And civilians who take action end up being attacked or have their cars/homes torched. My neighbour was suspected to 'ratting' to the Gardai and her car was set alight last Christmas eve. The heat shattered the front window and set the living room alight. There were 4 young kids in the house at the time.

One solution.....shoot to kill. Anyone engaged in mass violent behaviour should be shot on sight. They are a cancer and won't be missed.

Who'd do the shooting?

MagicSean

Ellis Dee wrote: »

As far as I recall, no one was convicted of murdering him. Several were found guilty of manslaughter and have served their sentences. :cool:

Nobody was convicted of murder. That doesn't mean they didn't murder him, it just means the evidence wasn't there to prove they had intent. But make no mistake, the cowardly bastards murdered him in cold blood and deserved the same fate.

ellegee

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

My mum lives in Ballyfermot, and she's terrified to leave the house once it gets dark. She also has to chain the bins to the railings & chain the front gates to prevent the scum from 'hiding stolen cars in plain site' in the garden.

I would hate to live in the area your mother lives in – I’m very glad I don’t.

And yet I do live in Ballyfermot.

Whereabouts in Ballyfermot does your mother live? There does seem to be some anti-social activity up at the Cherry Orchard end of things. But I live in Lower Ballyfermot, the opposite end (and Ballyfermot is a long stretch of an area), and I could not be happier with the place.

I’m not from here originally but I’ve lived here for several years and I’ve never had a problem or felt nervous, day or night. True I don’t go up to the Cherry Orchard end of things – tbh without a car it’s just too far, even if there is a Lidl up there – but I’ve been all around Lower Ballyfermot and the main Ballyfermot shops and can’t recommend it highly enough as an area.

Every large area has good parts and bad parts, even Dalkey and Killiney. To characterize all parts of Ballyfermot as dodgy is quite simply inaccurate and misleading and I really wish people would stop doing it.

CrazyRabbit

MagicSean wrote: »

Who'd do the shooting?

Me for one. I consider them sub-human and wouldn't think twice about it. And I think many others feel the same.

ellegee wrote: »

I would hate to live in the area your mother lives in – I’m very glad I don’t.

And yet I do live in Ballyfermot.

Whereabouts in Ballyfermot does your mother live? There does seem to be some anti-social activity up at the Cherry Orchard end of things. But I live in Lower Ballyfermot, the opposite end (and Ballyfermot is a long stretch of an area), and I could not be happier with the place.

I’m not from here originally but I’ve lived here for several years and I’ve never had a problem or felt nervous, day or night. True I don’t go up to the Cherry Orchard end of things – tbh without a car it’s just too far, even if there is a Lidl up there – but I’ve been all around Lower Ballyfermot and the main Ballyfermot shops and can’t recommend it highly enough as an area.

Every large area has good parts and bad parts, even Dalkey and Killiney. To characterize all parts of Ballyfermot as dodgy is quite simply inaccurate and misleading and I really wish people would stop doing it.

Yup...Cherry Orchard part. Lower Ballyfermot is much safer/quieter, but the whole Cherry Orchard/Croftwood area is a like a warzone. My sister is in the RAF and was stationed in Kandahar & Basra, yet she says she felt safer there than when she visits our mum.

CrazyRabbit

Just came across this on digg.com a few mins ago. Feckin' brilliant.

(Video)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/18/purse-thief-naked-video_n_1101056.html